I just want to discuss this scene for fun.
Posted by jenyovation@reddit | xena | View on Reddit | 52 comments
S1E7 so it is still early in their relationship:
Clearly Gabby was upset with how Xena treated her earlier. Was she intentionally trying to get back at her? Make her jealous? Prove she's not a kid? She interpreted Xena telling her no as "she has no respect for me" instead of what it was: protection!
And how do you interpret Xena's reaction? I think her expression is very reserved...blank, like she's trying not to show her true feelings. Is she jealous? sad? disappointed? shocked? all of the above?
FirebirdWriter@reddit
I think Gabrielle is exploring what she wants and both are actually conflicted about the desire for each other and learning the boundariesm Gabrielle maybe had sex with him because she felt like it and maybe from spite but I don't think she's that petty.
Xena is not expecting her feelings and they show
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
to be clear we know from the episode that she didn't have sex with him, or in fact any men (!) before Perdicus, but she certainly isn't in a rush here to clear that up with Xena
FirebirdWriter@reddit
I didn't remember that episode well enough. Time for another rewatch!
jenyovation@reddit (OP)
Yes, she just lets Xena think it for a while! 🤣
HedgehogPlenty3745@reddit
I think mega-bisexual Xena is jealous and trying to hide it, because things with Gabrielle were early days. We all know Gabrielle was still a virgin at this point (that was established when she married Perdicus). I don’t think Gabrielle had yet made the self-discovery that she is bisexual/lesbian (both up for grabs) at this point.
Aside: Renee O’Connor has such a baby face in this scene!
TicketTop4718@reddit
She was so adorable before the bowl cut
Visible_Term@reddit
She just turned hella hot with all those muscles 💪 🔥🥵🪭
Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit
By season 3, I became increasingly distracted by her abs. Like I had to keep rewinding the ep for....educational purposes and just got lost in her eyes and her muscles 🥵
IndependenceRich8754@reddit
Right. She spends the entire first season getting schoolyard crushes on one earnest beta male with floppy 90s hair after another and takes ages to realize why she keeps staying with Xena instead.
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
"these guys are so great but I really think I need to stay with this tall beautiful leather clad woman for some reason!!!"
TheInvisibleCircus@reddit
I CAN FIX HER
Cereal_Palsy7@reddit
Xena is BIG MAD.
Difficult_Boot7952@reddit
Yup, she was jealous. You could see it on her face 😆
Consistent_Cake_6927@reddit
Is this when Gabrielle was crushing on David from David and Goliath? Cause back then it seemed like Gabby was crushing on every sensitive young potential hero. I mean what else was she gonna do, everytime there was a war she was told to stay at the camp. Back then the only skill she had realized was story telling and listening; she was bored, and Xena was like helloo Im right here, been here the entire time? Lol
jenyovation@reddit (OP)
She was definitely a sucker for all those sensitive boys until she lost her... Well I don't remember if she was with any men other than Perdicus... maybe I blocked them from my memory lol
TAFKA_DarkSpecterSBM@reddit
Ok so part of the issue here that Xena is mad about is that Gabrille being a virgin is KEY to her ability to read the scrolls that control the Titans. They make this VERY CLEAR her ability to control them involves her remaining a virgin.
Seeing Gabrielle like this, without ANY jealousy, Xena's initial thought is that Gabrielle has just done something impulsive and foolish just to spite her, that could ruin the efforts to save everyone from the Titans.
So yeah, beyond the feelings between them romantically this one much more is about Gabrielle is still VERY young here (in personality) and is doing young and foolish things that, at this point, tend to keep putting them both in danger.
Part of why her becoming an Amazon Princess changes the dynamic so much. She grows up a LOT in just one episode, and being married, then immediately widowed completes her transition to maturity.
Still-Shop-4770@reddit
Ah ah I have to admit it’s the scene that got me interested in Xena in the first place.
I had switched on the TV and it was running in the background… Then I saw Xena’s reaction and I went « Wait- Is she jealous?? ».
I looked up the show on the internet, and I was hooked.
thewholebottle@reddit
Same when I caught a scene of Babylon 5 on TV once. "Those women...are lovers...holy crap."
AvocadoPizzaCat@reddit
think this is the whole temper part of an argument when you are friends whom are traveling together, there is an age difference, 'forbidden' tension of the romantic/sexual attraction, and a few other things. Xena is crushing on gabby but at the same time doesn't feel worthy to of gabby that way. While gabby whom never experienced as far as we know the same sex attraction yet, so while she feels it she doesn't understand it yet. As i believe she is suppose to be a teenager like late teens 17 at the youngest to 19. while xena is suppose to be like 30. Early seasons makes it feel like their age gap is bigger while later seasons makes it feel so much smaller.
Wicked68@reddit
At this time, early in the series, I feel this was about protection and a lil possessiveness. Not because she saw Gabrielle as a romantic partner at this time, but she was her "little friend" haha, who admired her, made her feel good about herself and helped her stay on the good path. She didn't want any male suitors taking or threatening that
Byanychance@reddit
Agreed. I don’t see jealousy here and I don’t think Xena would her in that way this early on.
SolidSnakeMGS2@reddit
Xena is solid AF. While she is solid she isn’t emotionless or rigid. Gabbie always getting herself in trouble and Xena having to save her is 90% of the series and I love it lol 😂 A very bisexual solid reaction from Xena, boy did she struggle to keep her composure but totally succeeded
BlissMoonRose@reddit
I honestly think she was very protective over Gabrielle but not in a romantic way yet. So of course she didn’t want her to make the mistakes she made at her age. But I also think she knew that she can’t tell her what to do— not only does Gabrielle have to figure her own way but like she said, in that moment they didn’t have time to hold hands and hash it out.
Jahon_Dony@reddit
You're projecting WAY too much into this. I'm not sure of the context, but if Gabi just literally slept with some rando Xena is being maternal. She's judging her, but also not trying to be too harsh in the moment. Remember, Xena took Gabi under her wing and under her care and was basically her guardian and mentor, at least until season 3.
Popular-One-7051@reddit
Mama Xena would have been kicking his ass.
My-name-for-ever@reddit
Those blue eyes wow
Popular-One-7051@reddit
My first thought. Wow!!
Takataapui_Kiwi@reddit
Umm I’m obsessed with this moment and few others in this episode. To me it’s jealousy and shock a little? I wrote a one shot smutty fanfic about my thought 🙈🙏🏼 enjoy at your own peril. https://archiveofourown.org/works/61319614
HedgehogPlenty3745@reddit
This was amazing haha! You made Gabrielle a pillow princess.
Popular-One-7051@reddit
Gabby could get her to roll over lol. Kind of like "what Maura wants, Maura gets" in Rizzoli and Isles
Takataapui_Kiwi@reddit
That’s my girl 😂
Owl_Queen101@reddit
What’s the ep number
jenyovation@reddit (OP)
🤣 Awesome, I can't wait to read this - thank you! 😁
TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit
Maybe I'm childish....but I am uncomfortable with the amount of legs he was showing when he got up 😭. Sir, why & HOW is your ankle length robe above your thighs?!
Sorry I have nothing of value to add. I just needed to say that because i never noticed this before 💀.
Lord_Voldemort1000@reddit
This is sending me. I never noticed before 💀
TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit
I am flabbergasted & appalled 🤧
SakuraTacos@reddit
I read your comment super fast and thought you meant Gabrielle was showing too much leg. So I went back to check and I lost it 😂 Why is his robe so high, what the heck guy?!
It’s been a minute since I’ve seen this ep so I don’t remember this dude’s story but I’m sure the monestary he’s on leave from wouldn’t approve of cuddling with bare legs!
TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit
Right?! Gabrielle is legit more clothed than him & she has an ankle length skirt on 💀💀. He has his toes out with the sandals on the bed, and thigh meat just chilling while they're laying down, airing things out. He's waaaayy to comfortable for a monk. And then the AUDACITY of that stare down...Xena had a lot of restraint. She would have been totally justified if her fist slipped....
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SakuraTacos@reddit
Oh so you noticed the stare down, too! I thought it was just me cuz I was like “Nah, can’t be, he doesn’t want the smoke!” But he is totally staring, he 100% thinks he can take Xena!
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
wow me neither especially when it cuts to Xena blinking in surprise hmm
TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit
Xena really said "excuse me"...
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books_n_food@reddit
So distracted because they have shoes on in bed.
What were they possibly doing with shoes on in bed?!
Nicoler37@reddit
I think Gabrielle was definitely trying to prove she’s not a kid. She didn’t feel like Xena’s equal yet, and felt she was treated like she was a kid still. I think no matter how you ultimately interpret Xena and Gabrielle’s relationship, at this point Xena is surprised to see Gabrielle laying down intimately with anyone. I think at that point, Xena did see Gabrielle as a kid/young woman she had to look out for (regardless of whether she happened to also be attracted or not), so her surprise came from her need to protect Gabrielle more than anything else.
JaggedLittlePill2022@reddit
Xena was sooo jealous!
Cruise1313@reddit
Xena: Get your fifthly paws off my woman! 😂
Evilbuffy14@reddit
Where to begin? *taps chin with index finger.
My thoughts:
Xena is half jealous, half smug. Jealous because, even though they haven't known each other long, we know Xena is starting to have feelings for her. She's still reserved. Still heavy into redemption and that whole 'my past is why we can't have nice things' phase. A little bit of the non-possessive version of 'if I can't have her no one will'. Smug because Gabrielle's behaviour has just confirmed that she is, in fact, a kid. A petulant one at that. Far too young for Xena and Xena is telling herself 'I told you so' probably followed by 'bullet dodged, check'.
Gabrielle's brief smugness backfires. She was hoping for more of a reaction from Xena. She's still very much in her hero-worship phase, though it's starting to branch off to... something else. We imagine at this point Gabrielle's experiencing a bit of confusion and she will for some time. She attaches herself to random boys in an effort to 'punish' Xena for various 'injustices' as Gabrielle perceives them, anyway. I think it's amusing to note that, in the event of an argument, Gabrielle turns from words to actions and Xena turns from actions to words.
I know it's much later in the series, but we don't see Xena show quite the depth of jealousy for other men as we do for other women. I mean, those few odd male interests, Xena just brushed off. No threats whatsoever. Enter Najara and we got a live version of Celebrity Deathmatch. Enter Brunhilde and I thought we'd get a repeat of Akemi if Gabrielle hadn't reassured Xena she was the only one.
Anyway, circling back to my first comment, I think Xena didn't make a huge thing out of it was that she knew. She knew now was not the right time, but perhaps sometime in the future, it would be the right time. I mean, the woman can fish. She knows all about patience.
HedgehogPlenty3745@reddit
Love this analysis
jenyovation@reddit (OP)
All excellent points, I've noticed that later on she does get more jealous of women. 🤣 I love this show. 💕
Evilbuffy14@reddit
Gee, I went waffling off on a complete tangent there. Clearly I also love this show. 😛
Dionne005@reddit
lol is so funny caz I never saw that they were possibly in a relationship or signs of jealousy at all till possibly season 4
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
Ok in my opinion this is before Xena had romantic feelings for Gabrielle but maybe she's a little surprised by the stab of jealously like "wait, why do I even care - it must be because I'm annoyed she's risking the mission by getting involved with someone, yeah!! And she's too young for that! That must be why I'm feeling some kind of way!' And Gabrielle is not acting maliciously other than she's DONE with authority figures trying to say what she must or can't do with men, and hasn't considered that her feelings for Xena could be more than just admiration and respect because she's never even heard women can do those things together. Just my take though.
Xena2025@reddit
Ha! Oh yes. Xena is super jealous here. It’s written all over her face.