These are the 57 house republicans who voted to require vehicle kill switches
Posted by Smacpats111111@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 105 comments
Vote accordingly.
Full List of 57 House Republicans Who Voted for Kill Switch Technology
- Mark E. Amodei (Nevada)
- Don Bacon (Nebraska)
- Stephanie Bice (Oklahoma)
- Gus Bilirakis (Florida)
- Mike Bost (Illinois)
- Ken Calvert (California)
- John R. Carter (Texas)
- Tom Cole (Oklahoma)
- Mario Diaz-Balart (Florida)
- Neal Dunn (Florida)
- Chuck Edwards (North Carolina)
- Jake Ellzey (Texas)
- Randy Feenstra (Iowa)
- Randy Fine (Florida)
- Brian Fitzpatrick (Pennsylvania)
- Chuck Fleischmann (Tennessee)
- Vince Fong (California)
- Andrew Garbarino (New York)
- Carlos A. Gimenez (Florida)
- French Hill (Arkansas)
- Jeff Hurd (Colorado)
- Brian Jack (Georgia)
- John James (Michigan)
- David Joyce (Ohio)
- Thomas Kean Jr. (New Jersey)
- Mike Kelly (Pennsylvania)
- Jen Kiggans (Virginia)
- Kevin Kiley (California)
- Young Kim (California)
- Kimberlyn King-Hinds (Northern Mariana Islands)
- Darin LaHood (Illinois)
- Nick LaLota (New York)
- Mike Lawler (New York)
- Frank Lucas (Oklahoma)
- Nicole Malliotakis (New York)
- Celeste Maloy (Utah)
- Brian Mast (Florida)
- Dan Meuser (Pennsylvania)
- Max Miller (Ohio)
- Mariannette Miller-Meeks (Iowa)
- Tim Moore (North Carolina)
- Blake Moore (Utah)
- James Moylan (Guam)
- Greg Murphy (North Carolina)
- Dan Newhouse (Washington)
- Zach Nunn (Iowa)
- Hal Rogers (Kentucky)
- Maria Elvira Salazar (Florida)
- Mike Simpson (Idaho)
- Elise Stefanik (New York)
- Glenn Thompson (Pennsylvania)
- Mike Turner (Ohio)
- David Valadao (California)
- Derrick Van Orden (Wisconsin)
- Rob Wittman (Virginia)
- Steve Womack (Arkansas)
- Ryan Zinke (Montana)
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ReindeerTypical2538@reddit
Looking forward to Palantir Insurance Company charging me extra for my car insurance because they found my monitored driving to a little excessive
YamaHD87@reddit
Plenty of great used vehicles out there. Personally, I prefer vehicles from 2000-2010ish. Reliable but still has some modern tech like auto lights, heated seats, etc.
Littlegator@reddit
That's not a solution, that's a stopgap. You need to think about the actual implications of the law and not just how you can skirt it in the short term.
remedyman@reddit
I am old enough that a stop gap is all I need to worry about.
pelicanthus@reddit
Typical selfish "I got mine, so fuck you" boomer mentality
Littlegator@reddit
The point of political discussion and advocacy is not just so you can be secure until you die. It's so that your fellow American of any age can be secure in perpetuity.
"F you, I got mine" is the opposite of the proper attitude in pretty much any context.
remedyman@reddit
The concept that you know how the future will turn out in 20-50 years is a believe that the young have the ignorance to believe in. You get to a certain point in life and realize that you have no business trying to influence anything beyond 10-20 years.
demipopthrow@reddit
Don't worry you can vote with your dollars and the market will save you.
cecarlton@reddit
Crap like this makes me want an old car.
EngineerTrue5658@reddit
it would be really funny if someone then hacked into their car's kill switch if this is passed.
BringBackUsenet@reddit
May they all be carjacked by hackers.
Laneofhighhopes@reddit
Are we just going to ignore that all Dems, except 4, voted for this?
What does "vote accordingly" mean, exactly?
Smacpats111111@reddit (OP)
It means don't vote for these scumbags
ManosMal@reddit
Your vote means nothing. Elections are gerrymandered and predetermined. Vote however you want, it won't change a thing.
Chosenwaffle@reddit
Primary voting is probably more important these days. Choosing which rep gets put into their predetermined red/blue seat is the only thing we have some modicum of control over.
remedyman@reddit
You might have had an argument until the last presidential election.
Laneofhighhopes@reddit
Let's be real, Harris was awful. Also, we escaped the hell of a Democrat uniparty, which they've been gunning for after 4 years of flooding the country with illegal immigrants.
remedyman@reddit
There was no way that she would have been better than where we are in my opinion. Having a split government that can't achieve much is always the goal.
ManosMal@reddit
That is also predetermined. The political parties are controlled by the elites/special interests, and they determine who gets nominated, either directly or indirectly. Gavin Newsom is not going to go against the interests of the Teachers' Unions, for example. If he did, he would not get the nomination.
It's all WWE. We yell and scream at each other about our favorite candidates, not realizing the same people have already determined the outcomes.
bravehotelfoxtrot@reddit
Yep, voting in these elections appears to be little more than a government-led public ritual. It's greatest apparent purposes are: 1) to lend perceived legitimacy to the government's actions/existence, and 2) to make people believe that government-created problems are the fault of other voters.
The federal government will always act in its best interests, despite what any of us want. Same for most (if not all) state governments. Your local government is likely the only one you might actually have a chance at influencing to any degree.
Bascome@reddit
So don’t vote for democrats, got it.
Smacpats111111@reddit (OP)
Obviously don't do that either, assumed that was a given
MakinBaconOnTheBeach@reddit
It's hard to tell on this sub sometimes...
Laneofhighhopes@reddit
Hey, you don't have to tell me twice.
dlham11@reddit
No, but it’s easier to list 57 republicans that did something bad and not 200 some odd democrats. That said, OP should list the democrats who voted no.
OrvilleJClutchpopper@reddit
OP did list them. At the bottom of the image. It's a short list.
RaverJester@reddit
Give it a reread. “All house democrats voted for kill switches except”
vikingblood63@reddit
They just want you at their mercy!
MossyPantz@reddit
Wow, for once I'm actually proud of Indiana republicans.
ebolson1019@reddit
Looks at my state, not surprised by who’s listed
gwhh@reddit
I thought trump congress voted this law away?
Ramshackle_Ranger@reddit
Myte342@reddit
Guaranteed, this will be hacked immediately and criminals will use the kill switch for themselves.
Double_Tax_8478@reddit
i hate the idea too, but this is fear mongering.
that would be pretty much impossible if it was implemented correctly. the request would have to be cryptographically signed by a government entity to be valid, meaning whatever “database” there would be to hack would be useless unless you had the key pair, which never has to touch the internet whatsoever as it’s literally just a long number.
for example, passports use an asymmetric key pair where the information on the RFID chip is signed using a government private key, which is then verified by the public key. the private key never needs to touch any server or database whatsoever as only the public key is necessary to verify the signature. thus it’s possible to verify the passport is real yet not possible to forge one no matter how much hacking you do.
Myte342@reddit
And that is the problem. It's never going to be implemented properly. You know your keyless entry? Hacked. Keyless start? Hacked. The car industry has had over a decade to implement something akin to what you talk about to fix this issue... and just plain hasn't. The number of criminals running around using these hacks to steal cars is growing as it becomes easier and easier to do (FlipperZero anyone?)... and yet not a peep from the car industry about fighting back to protect your vehicle.
Double_Tax_8478@reddit
keyless entry and ignition systems are entirely different. the main vulnerability is that it allows someone to relay the always on signal from the key fob that signals it is nearby. this vulnerability doesn’t exist over any other channel.
as much as i hate the government and think they are incompetent, this is literally impossible to fuck up. it’s comically easy to keep something like this secure to law enforcement only with current security technology
DotJata@reddit
"Don't worry it's safe we have encryption!" - That guy
Lol
natermer@reddit
Straight BS.
If you think that "implemented correctly" and "government" or "automobile manufacturers" belong anywhere near each other in the same paragraph... you obviously haven't been paying attention to anything that has been going on with automobiles in the past 40 years.
bravehotelfoxtrot@reddit
This is meant for criminal (government) use in the first place.
But yes, non-government criminals could also have a field day with this.
SaltyBigBoi@reddit
You’d think the 210 democrats who voted for this would be bigger news.
Let’s not forget though, the real news is that both parties are totalitarian and are coming for our rights. It’s time to ditch republicans and democrats.
bravehotelfoxtrot@reddit
Time to ditch the federal government.
teek636@reddit
This is the real takeaway. Birds of a feather flock together.
berkough@reddit
It should be noted that this law is likely unenforceable. The NHTSA hasn't been able to write the regulations because the law is overly broad and ambiguous as to how exactly the system is supposed to work.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/explaining-the-car-kill-switch-controversy/
There should be a law against law makers making laws about technology they don't understand.
theFartingCarp@reddit
shit we'd never have another firearm law again
Cache22-@reddit
"The shoulder thing that goes up!" Lol
theFartingCarp@reddit
That exact line is how I got people into firearms of all kinds lol.
calmlikeasexbobomb@reddit
theFartingCarp@reddit
eeeeexactly
KGrizzle88@reddit
Gun advocates have been beating this drum for decades.
Errororoeoe@reddit
Why are you sharing this list, and not sharing a list of the 211 democrats who also voted for the kill switch? Why are you focusing on the 25.9% of republicans who voted for it, and not the 97.7% of democrats? Seems rather biased if you ask me. For clarification, screw everyone who voted for this.
Exciting_Vast7739@reddit
Because Democrats don't regularly cosplay as libertarians?
Wonderflonium164@reddit
Am I seeing a different image that specifically says "all Democrats except these voted for kill switches"? Pretty sure it's called out.
Errororoeoe@reddit
Okay cool, it is mentioned one time in a font half the size as the rest of the font. Its also not in the title, or the sub title, or in the description of the image. I originally read this on mobile, and guess what? The Image didn't load, but the title and description did. This is the mild bias people use to skew narratives.
KGrizzle88@reddit
Don’t worry I immediate thought the sane thing. Even leaving my own comment questioning the decision making here. It reads like these are the 57 that, alone, voted for this. Leaving out the stats on the other party is exactly meant to skew a narrative.
But why, is the question we want. This is a libertarian sub, we can’t hate both parties enough, so the omission is perceived at intentional if you ask me.
Oldtimegraff@reddit
Maybe because we can just assume that all the Democrats voted for it.
Errororoeoe@reddit
Can we though? If Trump supported the bill, the voting would have swapped completely. The implication that 90% of these people actually stand on principal, and not based on party lines is absolutely laughable.
The-Avant-Gardeners@reddit
The power he could field by inverse trumping stuff
YamaHD87@reddit
Probably because the Republicans are hypocrites in this scenario. At least democrats tell you they want to control every aspect of your life.
Achilles8857@reddit
In other news, Americans voted overwhelmingly to install kill switches in the seating of the House and Senate chambers of the US Capitol. /sarc
stinky_cheddar@reddit
Howcome it's just a list of republicans, did the democrats not vote or something?
Ok_Screen_8739@reddit
The democrats are on there too. There's only 4 of them. They don't really claim to be the party against government overreach though so....
stinky_cheddar@reddit
I see. It says 160 Republicans voted yea and 57 nay while 4 democrats voted yeah and 211 nay. Am I confusing myself or doesn’t that mean that 211 voted the same as the 57 republicans?
Amazing-Film-2825@reddit
211 dems and 57 reps voted against banning kill switches on cars.
stinky_cheddar@reddit
So why's this guy saying there's only 4 of them?
Amazing-Film-2825@reddit
4 dems and 160 republicans voted to ban kill switches
Ok_Screen_8739@reddit
That's correct. It's a little confusing but I think it's meant to show who voted the opposite of what you'd expect them to based on their "values."
TheErd30@reddit
Now list the dems
betwen3and20characte@reddit
211 Democratics said yes too. Why is this one sided?
Heavy-Bell-2035@reddit
Why is anyone still surprised when Republicans turn out to be anti freedom? Seriously? What about the last fifty years have you missed to still be nonplussed that they voted for some pos bill like this?
Amazing-Film-2825@reddit
75% of republicans voted against this while 97% of dems voted for this.
OP may be purposefully obtuse or just stupid. In 2021 we voted in a bill that included forcing car manufacturers to put kills switches in their cars. Republicans just tried to amend the bill to block this because it is tyrannical. Every single democrat bar 4 voted to keep the kill switched along with 57 republicans.
Heavy-Bell-2035@reddit
And bring up a bill that's just as tyrannical but has the gud lawd JEEEEEESSSUUUSSS as its supposed justification and those ratios would be reversed. You're full of shit. The Republicans are just as big a pile of shit as the Democrats, and the sooner you and everyone else learns that the better.
MichaelTrapani@reddit
Theyd love to remote kill anyone who opposes their corruption
MiddleNotWestIsBad@reddit
Modern cars have electric power steering and electric steering wheel control and electronic cable connected braking. Shutting off the car mid ride would probably kill most people who are not strong enough to steer without power assistance and the pedals would be too hard to press. Not sure if any of you remember growing up learning to drive on old ass manual transmission cars and remember stalling out and losing vacuum pressure and bye bye brakes and power steering till you quickly start the car again. Doubtful most people nowadays would be prepared for that if this malfunctions. I haven’t looked into the bill to see if there are any specific requirements but I assume this would be wired to the fuel shut off and just stave the car of gas, hopefully the electronics would still be running. This is overstepping to the max; this is the kind of response to a mass vehicular terror trend like airports after 9/11. Makes zero sense why this is useful on a mass case.
december151791@reddit
I'm proud of my state. Roll Tide! (Except for Terri Sewell and Shomari Figures)
Vash_85@reddit
Who in their right mind would be okay with this?
Installing a remote kill switch that can be used to disable a vehicle at any time outside of the driver's control sounds disastrous at best. One miss-click and you disable the wrong vehicle, one computer glitch or ecm issue and it disables itself at random, one data breach and someone could have control of every vehicle in the database... This is how you kill the auto industry.
ReadEditName@reddit
FYI the law does not require a “kill switch “ . This rule might be a dumb one not sure it requires some government body to develop rules for detecting if a person is impaired but it definitely isn’t a rule requiring a kill switch.
TrollFarm21209@reddit
Imagine how they would have used this during covid.
Onemanwolfpack42@reddit
This is LITERALLY in Idiocracy... fuckin love this timeline
KGrizzle88@reddit
What a weird way of titling this post. 57 house republicans…., why leave out that all but 4 democrats also voted for such.
RCV4CO@reddit
🫣 we gotsta get the word out when the senate reconvenes
Prestigious-Fig-5513@reddit
Despite the cheerleading media, I think it is only boomers now who think either party is on the side of the people.
Goldenchomp1@reddit
Execute them
Any-Can-6776@reddit
Lots of modern cars have that ability already so what’s this really for?
ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit
What modern cars are reading your blood alcohol level? Courts have those installed but from the factory, this is new.
Any-Can-6776@reddit
Moving the goal posts lmao
This post was about kill switches but nice try
ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit
Read the bill
Any-Can-6776@reddit
Already done however you decided to comment on my post so it renders you also invalid.
zerepjc@reddit
What is the issue? New to this topic.
Smacpats111111@reddit (OP)
The bill requires the car to decide if you're impaired or not and turn off if you are.
Problems with that:
Adds to vehicle cost
System malfunctions, then you don't have a car
Driving through a snowstorm late at night, tired with a few miles to go and the car decides you're drunk so you freeze to death in the woods
Even if it works perfectly, if you get injured in the wilderness and have a 0.09 BAC, you can't drive yourself to the hospital, good luck!
waheheheeeler@reddit
Is the purpose to prevent drunk driving or theft? What is the argument for this being needed?
Keyhunter2009@reddit
Did it get passed
ToaKraka@reddit
The law was passed several years ago. OP is talking about a failed effort to overturn it before it goes into effect this year.
magichronx@reddit
Purposely installing backdoors of any kind is a slippery slope, and will nearly always be abused in some way
PsychoticMessiah@reddit
Mileage subscription incoming in …..
zerepjc@reddit
Thanks for the reply. I never thought about that but am now against it.
seanjohntx@reddit
The newsweek article says the kill switch bill is still in committee. So, why the need for this vote yet?
dap00man@reddit
Smaller government, but not in your car
_WhiteGoodman_@reddit
Welp. Time to start buying cars for my used car dealership business that I haven’t opened yet. No vehicles newer than 2020 (just to be sure).
otters4everyone@reddit
In Utah, Moore and Malloy are worthless. Yet, because they put an R next to their name, the morons here keep voting for them. So frustrating. Absolutely worthless.
Sierramike17@reddit
It's so embarrassing having Randy Feenstra for a representative. And even when he's gone he'll just be replaced with another loser from the same county.
grot-ivre-1749@reddit
There are already kill switches in Model Y Tesla’s (at least) - so purchase accordingly.
bt4bm01@reddit
Of course my state rep voted in favor. He’s awful and harder to vote out of office than it is to cure cancer.
SirBiggusDikkus@reddit
So basically all Dems voted for this plus 57 Republican? Is that what happened?
GrimHoly@reddit
Has this passed the senate already?
Exciting_Vast7739@reddit
JFC.
Once more, the great Thomas Massie led the bill to undo this.
What a load of crock.