LibreOffice has options for other UI/UX if that is what one prefers. But that shouldn't matter too much on a fork when you can do your own changes, like Collabora Office does
There is a lot of UI/UX work that needs done on LibreOffice, as much as I like and use it. For instance, users asking about something like Excel's table feature (auto style + auto filter + auto-updating named range and other QOL features for quickly working with data and formulas) really should not be met with a "usecase for convenience?" response on the forums. The fact is that working in LibreOffice Calc remains genuinely slower and requires more effort than working in Excel, and I'm getting pretty tired of programmers deciding that saving human life / time isn't reason enough to implement a feature. The fact that I have to remember to manually update a named range before refreshing my pivot tables in 2026 is unhinged, and this added complexity all but precludes my less skilled colleagues from using the software.
hardcore use of office applications tends to be negatively correlated with being an open source developer. so open source devs don’t have good idea of the necessary advanced features.
Powerpoint for instance is used a ton in consulting and investment banking to create slide decks and has a whole plugin ecosystem system for creating professional corporate slide decks, see for instance think-cell.
Uuh creating it?!? It always baffles me how in every single discussion like this one people always say "well, just create a fork!" as if that doesn't implies being the sole maintainer of an (usually) entire enormous tool
Open source is great but it's not magical, solutions won't magically pop up just because it's possible. People really need to stop believing on the imaginary perfect dev that'll just magically fix any issues for free, without resources just because he felt like it
Possible? Absolutely. Plausible? Not really, especially for enterprise software
Haha, there is some truth here. I wish they'd introduce another deeper level in which to hide the more advanced stuff in order to avoid these looong menus. They should orient on Google office, which in my opinion has an excellent UI.
When you make a fork, you choose what the default is. Like CollaboraOffice makes the ms office like interface default. For the fork it is no pain at all
Not to mention OnlyOffice is essentially a Russian product (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39638530 , https://fossforce.com/2025/07/lyon-france-adopts-onlyoffice-from-russia-with-love/).
I remember when my employer migrated us from lotus 123 to Microsoft office. No training or assistance, we just had to switch. And again when Microsoft office introduced the ribbon interface. We just had to switch.
Now try getting a company of 100 people or a 1000 people to read a book they completely don't care about. How many tens of thousands of dollars in man hours are you going to waste on retraining all of them to use a new interface.
why Libre office but not Onlyoffice. then in every aspect the latter is better. Better UI , same open sourceness, better fipe compatibility, cross platform and web availablity. Euro Office is just a fork of Onlyoffice
It was initially a joint operation between the Russian company New Communication Technologies, and the Latvian company (Ascensio System SIA). Ascensio System SIA was wholly owned by New Communication Technologies. In 2023, ownership of the product was transferred to Ascensio System Limited, incorporated in the UK, which is owned by OnlyOffice Capital Group Pte. Ltd. in Singapore.
Development happens in Russia, all those other companies are SPEs.
Jolla was always Finnish, they had Russian investment and basically self immolated via bankruptcy and reformed as a new company to shed that investment
There's no indication that happened here, the management and ownership of OnlyOffice remains opaque and the new companies that were incorporated have all the hallmarks of being shells.
Jolla was always Finnish, they had Russian investment and basically self immolated via bankruptcy and reformed as a new company to shed that investment
Sure, but the point is that nobody is raising a stink abt jolla having been touched by the "evul russians"
There's no indication that happened here, the management and ownership of OnlyOffice remains opaque and the new companies that were incorporated have all the hallmarks of being shells (Singapore being a popular domicile for them).
As you can see, all Russian ties cease to exist. Y'all need to stop being paranoid about Russia and worry more abt the US that is actively threatening to take Greenland lmao
Then you aren't looking. That is consistently brought up as an issue and Jolla in general has an absolute shit reputation even without the russia ties..
I used onlyoffice and it works great. Only office is the only app I could find on Linux that can edit texts in pdfs, no other app could do that. Correct me I'm wrong though.
LibreOffice offers six GUI. So, I clicked them one after the other to compare and see which one I prefer. At least, that was my intention. LibreOffice started confusing them before I reached the 5th. Too buggy! And IMHO, having "Fresh" and "Still" versions is also a sign that there's a maturity problem. I pick "Still" and I still have bugs. :s
Secondly, it feels like the developers stopped using Microsoft Office in the 90s and only read its changelogs after that. So, they add features similar to those of MS Office but they miss the UX MS Office gives.
Thirdly, and I admit it is tainted by my own experience at work, developers don't use software like average people do and fail to notice what's convenient or problematic for people.
In short, my impression is that LibreOffice is buggy and, although it is roughly on-par feature-wise, feels outdated.
LibreOffice has option to look closer to MS Office if one wants, it just isn't default.
And LibreOffice is better at opening MS Office documents than OnlyOffice. The issue LibreOffice has is that it leaves fonts to the operating system. So if you are missing Windows or MS Office fonts, it can cause document layout to shift. You can see if a font was changed if it becomes italic in the menu bar. If you download Windows fonts and MS Office fonts, it fixes the formatting issues.
As someone who is in the process of rigorously testing multiple non-M$ office suites for the planned transition to Linux and OSS for my company, I must disagree.
I carried out all of the "fixes" to change the appearance, and incorporate the fonts, to make LibreOffice "as close as possible" to Office365. I really wanted it be the viable solution, but the UX/UI is just rough and messy (in a quasi-late 90s Microsoft kind of way), and has compatibility issues with many of our existing documents and templates.
OnlyOffice was the only alternative that had a smooth and familiar UI, solid compatibility, and just worked. Crucial for company-wide deployment and scalability. The desktop app integrates well with NextCloud, including autosave.
If EuroOffice can combine the polish, compatibility and seamless UX of OnlyOffice, with the technical complexities of LibreOffice, it will be the dream solution.
I used Softmaker for my profession and trade back and forth with windows only users all the time. For eord processing, this is my go to. However, its spreadsheet and presentation you are lackluster. Great word processor though b
I have had bad experiences with OnlyOffice. Opening any document causes a spike in CPU usage. I don’t have the time or the motivation to track down the reason, especially since LibreOffice works without any issues - and I rarely use office software anyway.
As this is r/Linux I need to point out that OnlyOffice (and at least in the near term Euro Office) use a non-open format by default.
It's a format that no program is actually 100% compatible with, except for MS Office. And when it doesn't show up right in Google Docs or OnlyOffice or LibreOffice or any other program, and your customer calls up complaining it doesn't look right, people just end up buying something from Microsoft.
It's a fairly standard vendor lock-in strategy that's been working great for Microsoft or some 20 years now, and it's very definitely not helping Linux.
Back in earlier days, the split between people recommending moving from MS Office to either Libre Office or Open Office seemed to me to line up with whether the person regularly used Linux or not. MS users seemed to always recommend OO, while Linux users usually recommended LO.
Collaborative editing means that you can have multiple authors of a document at the same time. You can watch your colleague typing, and can instantly insert changes, correct mistakes, etc....
Real-time. So among your options, online documents is probably the closest. I don't know if they need the document to be in shared/online storage or if it can be local.
With MS Office the document is stored on a Sharepoint aka Teams aka OneDrive. not sure if it works on premise. you can access it either with the Web version or Native client while later is far superior compared to the web version. The document will be saved continuously so the Save button is afair even greyed out.
What is nice compared to classic network shares you wont run into the situation of a locked file because your work colleague has the file open and is in the lunch break.
Really, can you have multiple users edit the same document at the same time? Does it depend on an environment like Nextcloud? That would really be brilliant....
Just because it can do it, doesn't mean it does it well enough to scale and behave the way they want (UX). It may also be the simplicity of dealing with it to assert their use cases, which other than not being reliant on US tech, has not been clearly, discretely defined AFAIK.
And they hated the LibreOffice project so much that they gave it to Apache just in order not to give it to them, even changing the license to the non-copyleft Apache License to be able to pull that off. Needless to say, that move, deliberately ignoring the direction the community had already chosen during their years of inaction, failed spectacularly: Apache OpenOffice basically went nowhere, has not had a feature release for 12 years (!) now, and is now years behind LibreOffice in functionality.
It's day and night between onlyoffice and OpenOffice. The latter is stuck in the 2000's and the first one proposes a real alternative to the office suit.
Maybe not talked about as much for some reason, but onlyoffice is at the core a web editor, and supports multiple people live editing a document.
This is important for nextcloud as buisinesses need to share documents around without needing to download them, and something libreoffice cannot natively do iirc.
Why did you not work with libreoffice and collabora online?
We believe open source is about collaboration and we look for oportunities for integration and collaboration with the LibreOffice community and companies like Collabora. There are already some ideas how to collaborate for example in the document converter.
Yeah, you're right. Wires got crossed and thought it was asking why base Euro-Office on OnlyOffice and not Libre Office. Although to be fair, OP probably could have included some more context in their question.
I bet you can't copy the code, add your logo, and call it your product. That's not how open-source distribution and AGPL licenses work. Onlyoffice even published a blog calling it out.
OnlyOffice also added some other things to their licencing model, which made it so that you werent allowed to remove their logo but their logo is trademarked. its shady sh*t, which them being run through russian shell companies doesnt surprise me at all.
You can legally use the GPL terms (possibly modified) in another license provided that you call your license by another name and do not include the GPL preamble, and provided you modify the instructions-for-use at the end enough to make it clearly different in wording and not mention GNU (though the actual procedure you describe may be similar).
OnlyOffice works quite well with Microslop formats and thats what is important to big government agencies etc - I also use OnlyOffice (I rarely write documents in a classical way) because its not that cluttered like LibreOffice. Glad that EU companies fork it because well its open source yes but in these days you never know. Hopefully EU gets to the point creating its own Linux distribution to be independent from US Tech
What do you mean like cluttered? You can change the UI to more similar to MS Office/OnlyOffice if you want, its an option in LibreOffice.
As for compatibility with MS Office formats, LibreOffice is better, the problem is LibreOffice leaves fonts to the OS, so if you don't have windows and ms office fonts installed, it will swap fonts to ones that may have different font metrics that can cause formatting issues.
Still somehow big tech. Well it goes ties to the US of course. I mean like a distro backed by several companies like EuroOffice, not a single company distro like RHEL
The primary interest for me regarding OnlyOffice was that it has (or at least had, things may have changed) much better support for collaborative editing.
Maybe because collabora uses more server resources while onlyoffice uses more client side resources? Most hosted nextcloud subscriptions therefore don't allow collabora... The self hosters can still choose by themselves.
My execution is scheduled for this evening, but the Nextcloud CEO is still debating with the IONOS CEO whether I'm going to hang myself without a chair to stand on or shoot myself four times in the back of the head.
0riginal-Syn@reddit
It is often easier for MS Office users to transition to OnlyOffice/EU Office without having to change it. Efficiency wise that is one reason.
Personally, I prefer and support LibreOffice, but the UI/UX is a roadblock for an organization transitioning all their employees from MS Office.
KnowZeroX@reddit
LibreOffice has options for other UI/UX if that is what one prefers. But that shouldn't matter too much on a fork when you can do your own changes, like Collabora Office does
Behrus@reddit
Yeah, you can pick between 7 shitty ones instead of having one actually good one.
nathan-makes-incense@reddit
There is a lot of UI/UX work that needs done on LibreOffice, as much as I like and use it. For instance, users asking about something like Excel's table feature (auto style + auto filter + auto-updating named range and other QOL features for quickly working with data and formulas) really should not be met with a "usecase for convenience?" response on the forums. The fact is that working in LibreOffice Calc remains genuinely slower and requires more effort than working in Excel, and I'm getting pretty tired of programmers deciding that saving human life / time isn't reason enough to implement a feature. The fact that I have to remember to manually update a named range before refreshing my pivot tables in 2026 is unhinged, and this added complexity all but precludes my less skilled colleagues from using the software.
BatemansChainsaw@reddit
I don't use it, but for the sake of discussion will ask here: what's the roadblock for creating one that doesn't suck?
hobo_stew@reddit
hardcore use of office applications tends to be negatively correlated with being an open source developer. so open source devs don’t have good idea of the necessary advanced features.
Powerpoint for instance is used a ton in consulting and investment banking to create slide decks and has a whole plugin ecosystem system for creating professional corporate slide decks, see for instance think-cell.
Embeco@reddit
I’m too lazy, so please imagine I inserted the relevant XKCD about making one standard to unite them all here
BatemansChainsaw@reddit
I get what you're saying but I'm asking if there's a theme manager similar to gnome or kde, not a new "competing" standard.
Additional-Simple248@reddit
https://xkcd.com/927/
nothingtoseehr@reddit
Uuh creating it?!? It always baffles me how in every single discussion like this one people always say "well, just create a fork!" as if that doesn't implies being the sole maintainer of an (usually) entire enormous tool
Open source is great but it's not magical, solutions won't magically pop up just because it's possible. People really need to stop believing on the imaginary perfect dev that'll just magically fix any issues for free, without resources just because he felt like it
Possible? Absolutely. Plausible? Not really, especially for enterprise software
EldritchHorror00@reddit
You say this like they didn't already fork OnlyOffice. Which is where all these legal issues came from.
pancapangrawit@reddit
Haha, there is some truth here. I wish they'd introduce another deeper level in which to hide the more advanced stuff in order to avoid these looong menus. They should orient on Google office, which in my opinion has an excellent UI.
BatemansChainsaw@reddit
Google's "office" is really nice. The only problem is it's Google's.
vmcrash@reddit
Out of curiosity: what exactly is shitty compared to MS/EUR office? I'm asking because I only know LibreOffice.
linuxhiker@reddit
consistency
RapunzelLooksNice@reddit
All except for the default toolbars behaves half-baked. Items rarely fit inside their available space, sometimes context tabs don't appear, etc.
IHateNumbers234@reddit
I tried switching to the tabbed UI and it triggered a bug that caused LO to crash every time it opened a document
KnowZeroX@reddit
It works fine here, what are you testing it(platform, or flatpak?) on and what version of LibreOffice?
0riginal-Syn@reddit
Yes it does, just a bit more of a pain across organizations. Most want set and forget. It is what we see with our clients.
KnowZeroX@reddit
When you make a fork, you choose what the default is. Like CollaboraOffice makes the ms office like interface default. For the fork it is no pain at all
0riginal-Syn@reddit
My point that individual organizations are generally not doing that. I understand what you are saying.
Zdrobot@reddit
https://isitreallyfoss.com/projects/onlyoffice/
Not to mention OnlyOffice is essentially a Russian product (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39638530 , https://fossforce.com/2025/07/lyon-france-adopts-onlyoffice-from-russia-with-love/).
0riginal-Syn@reddit
It is a big part of the reason they wanted to fork it.
nicgeolaw@reddit
I remember when my employer migrated us from lotus 123 to Microsoft office. No training or assistance, we just had to switch. And again when Microsoft office introduced the ribbon interface. We just had to switch.
ZunoJ@reddit
God beware you read a book to stay up to date
Kok_Nikol@reddit
That wasn't the point he was trying to make.
They went through a unassisted transition for paid proprietary software, suggesting that users would be fine in case they used Libre Office.
ZunoJ@reddit
They should be because they can just read some docs to transition
Hotspot3@reddit
Now try getting a company of 100 people or a 1000 people to read a book they completely don't care about. How many tens of thousands of dollars in man hours are you going to waste on retraining all of them to use a new interface.
tvsmurali50@reddit
why Libre office but not Onlyoffice. then in every aspect the latter is better. Better UI , same open sourceness, better fipe compatibility, cross platform and web availablity. Euro Office is just a fork of Onlyoffice
Spez-is-dick-sucker@reddit
Is onlyoffice spyware or something? Like is it worth it? I don't want my documents to end in a microsoft or russian servers
rg-atte@reddit
It's not, but in the world of supply chain attacks it likely is a concern if upstream can easily be put under pressure by the russian government.
Linuksoid@reddit
"Muh Russian government"
It's a latvian company
Scheeseman99@reddit
It was initially a joint operation between the Russian company New Communication Technologies, and the Latvian company (Ascensio System SIA). Ascensio System SIA was wholly owned by New Communication Technologies. In 2023, ownership of the product was transferred to Ascensio System Limited, incorporated in the UK, which is owned by OnlyOffice Capital Group Pte. Ltd. in Singapore.
Development happens in Russia, all those other companies are SPEs.
Linuksoid@reddit
So what you are saying is the company was formerly russian but owned by Singapore? I don't see the issue
Scheeseman99@reddit
Jolla was always Finnish, they had Russian investment and basically self immolated via bankruptcy and reformed as a new company to shed that investment
There's no indication that happened here, the management and ownership of OnlyOffice remains opaque and the new companies that were incorporated have all the hallmarks of being shells.
Linuksoid@reddit
Sure, but the point is that nobody is raising a stink abt jolla having been touched by the "evul russians"
Everything is pretty clear lmao
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/05718967/persons-with-significant-control
As you can see, all Russian ties cease to exist. Y'all need to stop being paranoid about Russia and worry more abt the US that is actively threatening to take Greenland lmao
Scheeseman99@reddit
Because they actively and aggressively shed their connections to Russian capital/control.
Yeah it is; it's a shell corp with only one active name attached, and the one person who is, is Russian.
Next time you try to make a point you should actually read the contents of the links you post, dumbass.
rg-atte@reddit
Then you aren't looking. That is consistently brought up as an issue and Jolla in general has an absolute shit reputation even without the russia ties..
Linuksoid@reddit
Jolla's reputation is okay, everyone was recently excited abt the new jolla phone/sailfish os recently. They do good work
pancapangrawit@reddit
But apparently the developers all sit in Russia? They suspect it's fake Latvian....
Linuksoid@reddit
So a Latvian company hired some russian developers, somehow proves its Russian?
Why not call Space Marine 2 "Russian", since the devs were in St Petersburg, by that logic lmao
Obnomus@reddit
I used onlyoffice and it works great. Only office is the only app I could find on Linux that can edit texts in pdfs, no other app could do that. Correct me I'm wrong though.
meskobalazs@reddit
It's not, but it's dodgy in other ways, it's fauxpen source, as some people might say.
Hot_Theory3843@reddit
LibreOffice offers six GUI. So, I clicked them one after the other to compare and see which one I prefer. At least, that was my intention. LibreOffice started confusing them before I reached the 5th. Too buggy! And IMHO, having "Fresh" and "Still" versions is also a sign that there's a maturity problem. I pick "Still" and I still have bugs. :s
Secondly, it feels like the developers stopped using Microsoft Office in the 90s and only read its changelogs after that. So, they add features similar to those of MS Office but they miss the UX MS Office gives.
Thirdly, and I admit it is tainted by my own experience at work, developers don't use software like average people do and fail to notice what's convenient or problematic for people.
In short, my impression is that LibreOffice is buggy and, although it is roughly on-par feature-wise, feels outdated.
Quietus87@reddit
OnlyOffice looks more like modern MS Office and does a better job at opening MS Office documents without fucking up formatting, as far as I know.
KnowZeroX@reddit
LibreOffice has option to look closer to MS Office if one wants, it just isn't default.
And LibreOffice is better at opening MS Office documents than OnlyOffice. The issue LibreOffice has is that it leaves fonts to the operating system. So if you are missing Windows or MS Office fonts, it can cause document layout to shift. You can see if a font was changed if it becomes italic in the menu bar. If you download Windows fonts and MS Office fonts, it fixes the formatting issues.
Secret_Conclusion_93@reddit
Font is the biggest issue, and that alone is the biggest reason why EUOffice fork OnlyOffice instead of LibreOffice.
LibreOffice is not better at opening MS Office document until that got sorted out.
KnowZeroX@reddit
But when you are forking, you can address these issues in your fork...
hobo_stew@reddit
or you fork something where they are sorted out and save yourself the time
TargP@reddit
As someone who is in the process of rigorously testing multiple non-M$ office suites for the planned transition to Linux and OSS for my company, I must disagree.
I carried out all of the "fixes" to change the appearance, and incorporate the fonts, to make LibreOffice "as close as possible" to Office365. I really wanted it be the viable solution, but the UX/UI is just rough and messy (in a quasi-late 90s Microsoft kind of way), and has compatibility issues with many of our existing documents and templates.
OnlyOffice was the only alternative that had a smooth and familiar UI, solid compatibility, and just worked. Crucial for company-wide deployment and scalability. The desktop app integrates well with NextCloud, including autosave.
If EuroOffice can combine the polish, compatibility and seamless UX of OnlyOffice, with the technical complexities of LibreOffice, it will be the dream solution.
T8ert0t@reddit
I used Softmaker for my profession and trade back and forth with windows only users all the time. For eord processing, this is my go to. However, its spreadsheet and presentation you are lackluster. Great word processor though b
Bogus007@reddit
I have had bad experiences with OnlyOffice. Opening any document causes a spike in CPU usage. I don’t have the time or the motivation to track down the reason, especially since LibreOffice works without any issues - and I rarely use office software anyway.
ElMachoGrande@reddit
EuroOffice is just a rebranded OnlyOffice, which, in my opinion, is the better option anyway. It's so much more polished and streamlined to work with.
pancapangrawit@reddit
It is a fork, though, so it'll gradually move away...
ElMachoGrande@reddit
I expect them to commit their changes upstream.
webfork2@reddit
As this is r/Linux I need to point out that OnlyOffice (and at least in the near term Euro Office) use a non-open format by default.
It's a format that no program is actually 100% compatible with, except for MS Office. And when it doesn't show up right in Google Docs or OnlyOffice or LibreOffice or any other program, and your customer calls up complaining it doesn't look right, people just end up buying something from Microsoft.
It's a fairly standard vendor lock-in strategy that's been working great for Microsoft or some 20 years now, and it's very definitely not helping Linux.
RedHuey@reddit
Back in earlier days, the split between people recommending moving from MS Office to either Libre Office or Open Office seemed to me to line up with whether the person regularly used Linux or not. MS users seemed to always recommend OO, while Linux users usually recommended LO.
pancapangrawit@reddit
Don't confuse OpenOffice and OnlyOffice, they're different beasts 😉
Ratspeed@reddit
Just have LibreOffice change the name to EuroOffice and you've won.
pancapangrawit@reddit
LibreOffice is not online... The question is rather why they didn't choose Collabora Online ... License? Technology?
Sataniel98@reddit
LibreOffice has no collaborative editing. EuroOffice is specifically developed for this.
vmcrash@reddit
What is "collaborative editing"? Do you mean tracking changes from different authors? LibreOffice has that since ages.
AdAstra257@reddit
I think they mean multiple authors working on the same document at the same time.
Mds03@reddit
Google docs style editing. You can host an onlyoffice document server I think. Sharepoint and OneDrive is huge in governments
Zdrobot@reddit
NextCloud includes self-hosted Collabora / LibreOffice in the browser as an option. If this is not "Google Docs style editing", I don't know what is.
Source: I'm hosting my own NextCloud AIO (All-In-One, via Docker).
pancapangrawit@reddit
Collaborative editing means that you can have multiple authors of a document at the same time. You can watch your colleague typing, and can instantly insert changes, correct mistakes, etc....
vmcrash@reddit
With online documents or on a network share?
Ullebe1@reddit
Real-time. So among your options, online documents is probably the closest. I don't know if they need the document to be in shared/online storage or if it can be local.
RC2225@reddit
With MS Office the document is stored on a Sharepoint aka Teams aka OneDrive. not sure if it works on premise. you can access it either with the Web version or Native client while later is far superior compared to the web version. The document will be saved continuously so the Save button is afair even greyed out.
What is nice compared to classic network shares you wont run into the situation of a locked file because your work colleague has the file open and is in the lunch break.
AdAstra257@reddit
I don’t know the specifics, I know this is what’s usually referred to when people talk about “collaborative editing” nowadays.
I’d imagine it works like this: a host has the document and guests can connect to edit. In the end the host is the owner and can save the changes.
sinfaen@reddit
Like collabora
pancapangrawit@reddit
Really, can you have multiple users edit the same document at the same time? Does it depend on an environment like Nextcloud? That would really be brilliant....
shikkonin@reddit
Collabora (LibreOffice in the browser) does.
RoomyRoots@reddit
You can also selfhost it via CODE.
Zdrobot@reddit
Also NextCloud includes self-hosted Collabora / LibreOffice in the browser as an option.
shikkonin@reddit
Yes. That's the point.
zeruch@reddit
Just because it can do it, doesn't mean it does it well enough to scale and behave the way they want (UX). It may also be the simplicity of dealing with it to assert their use cases, which other than not being reliant on US tech, has not been clearly, discretely defined AFAIK.
fellipec@reddit
It looks just like a fork from OnlyOffice. Not something from scratch. And OnlyOffice is more polished than LibreOffice, IMHO.
trisanachandler@reddit
Oh, is OnlyOffice the preferred option? I remember back when OpenOffice was the common choice.
GOKOP@reddit
OpenOffice is irrelevant nowadays. It was forked into LibreOffice and that's what you should use if you liked OpenOffice in the past.
OnlyOffice is a separate product, I've never used it but I think they claim better MS Office compatibility?
Zdrobot@reddit
Yes, this Russian product claims better MS Office compatibility, while also trying its best to hide its country of origin.
pancapangrawit@reddit
That's surely one of the reasons they forked it. I just wonder if their removing some license additions will pass legal scrutiny...
MicrogamerCz@reddit
Last time I compared the two, OnlyOffice was the only one identical to word, while onlyoffice got the images wrong
Frosty-Comfort6699@reddit
that must have been at the time when windows 95 was brand new
MicrogamerCz@reddit
Sorry, I accidentally re-typed only office again when I meant that libre office got the images wrong
trisanachandler@reddit
That's what I was trying to say, I've been using LibreOffice for years if not the past decade.
sob727@reddit
you mean StarOffice?
fellipec@reddit
wow the memories
sob727@reddit
back then you would just trust and run the .bin installer
BatemansChainsaw@reddit
I still have that CD someplace
RoomyRoots@reddit
Oracle killed OpenOffice just to give it to Apache a decade too late.
Kevin_Kofler@reddit
And they hated the LibreOffice project so much that they gave it to Apache just in order not to give it to them, even changing the license to the non-copyleft Apache License to be able to pull that off. Needless to say, that move, deliberately ignoring the direction the community had already chosen during their years of inaction, failed spectacularly: Apache OpenOffice basically went nowhere, has not had a feature release for 12 years (!) now, and is now years behind LibreOffice in functionality.
Eltrits@reddit
It's day and night between onlyoffice and OpenOffice. The latter is stuck in the 2000's and the first one proposes a real alternative to the office suit.
ju4nseb4sti4n@reddit
Onlyoffice is polished but does not support large files.
revilo-1988@reddit
Ist es auch nen Fork von onlyoffice
TCOO1@reddit
Maybe not talked about as much for some reason, but onlyoffice is at the core a web editor, and supports multiple people live editing a document. This is important for nextcloud as buisinesses need to share documents around without needing to download them, and something libreoffice cannot natively do iirc.
pcmacgeek@reddit
From: https://github.com/Euro-Office
jsswirus@reddit
The answer is in no way trying to answer the question. Like - they aren't even in the same spacetime continuum.
pcmacgeek@reddit
Yeah, you're right. Wires got crossed and thought it was asking why base Euro-Office on OnlyOffice and not Libre Office. Although to be fair, OP probably could have included some more context in their question.
Honest_Ad1632@reddit
I bet you can't copy the code, add your logo, and call it your product. That's not how open-source distribution and AGPL licenses work. Onlyoffice even published a blog calling it out.
Frosty-Comfort6699@reddit
bro didn't grasp the "open" part of open source
DoubleOwl7777@reddit
OnlyOffice also added some other things to their licencing model, which made it so that you werent allowed to remove their logo but their logo is trademarked. its shady sh*t, which them being run through russian shell companies doesnt surprise me at all.
Scheeseman99@reddit
It is, in fact, how open-source distribution works. OnlyOffice's version of the AGPL is invalid. A quote from that link:
Meanwhile, from GNU's own website:
Whoops.
Zdrobot@reddit
Also, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1s7uw3h/onlyoffice_accuses_nextcloud_and_ionos_of/
Ill-Suggestion-349@reddit
OnlyOffice works quite well with Microslop formats and thats what is important to big government agencies etc - I also use OnlyOffice (I rarely write documents in a classical way) because its not that cluttered like LibreOffice. Glad that EU companies fork it because well its open source yes but in these days you never know. Hopefully EU gets to the point creating its own Linux distribution to be independent from US Tech
vmcrash@reddit
Manjaro?
Ill-Suggestion-349@reddit
https://manjarno.pages.dev
KnowZeroX@reddit
What do you mean like cluttered? You can change the UI to more similar to MS Office/OnlyOffice if you want, its an option in LibreOffice.
As for compatibility with MS Office formats, LibreOffice is better, the problem is LibreOffice leaves fonts to the OS, so if you don't have windows and ms office fonts installed, it will swap fonts to ones that may have different font metrics that can cause formatting issues.
mrrask@reddit
Just give up dude. no one wants to use your app, kay
kemma_@reddit
OpenSuse?
Ill-Suggestion-349@reddit
Still somehow big tech. Well it goes ties to the US of course. I mean like a distro backed by several companies like EuroOffice, not a single company distro like RHEL
yahbluez@reddit
It is EU so all about money and handshakes behind closed doors.
The corruption level in the EU has already outperformed the UDSSR.
DialecticCompilerXP@reddit
The primary interest for me regarding OnlyOffice was that it has (or at least had, things may have changed) much better support for collaborative editing.
GreenMountainTurtle@reddit
Maybe because collabora uses more server resources while onlyoffice uses more client side resources? Most hosted nextcloud subscriptions therefore don't allow collabora... The self hosters can still choose by themselves.
tamburasi@reddit
MS comp is way better on OnlyOffice than on LibreOffice. It also feels like you working on MS Office bc UI is modern.
KnowZeroX@reddit
You can change the UI in LibreOffice to be more similar to MS Office, on first boot now there is even an option to pick.
Regular_Bat8162@reddit
It’s just a different layout
The UI is still shit
sndrtj@reddit
That still looks ugly.
tamburasi@reddit
It is still behind OnlyOffice
Regular_Bat8162@reddit
Euro Office is online while LO is offline
Although there is Collabora (basically online LO) but they decided against it
oldlinuxguy@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Office
kornerz@reddit
Looks like a RU-Office forked by some totally-not-FSB guys to infiltrate EU market.
RoomyRoots@reddit
It's the exact opposite. Had you open their site your would have read why they forked it.
Far_Calligrapher1334@reddit
Yes, the well known secret agents from Nextcloud and Proton are coming to your house right as we speak.
lavenderechoes@reddit
can confirm. got shot execution-style by the proton secret agents this morning
3dank5maymay@reddit
My execution is scheduled for this evening, but the Nextcloud CEO is still debating with the IONOS CEO whether I'm going to hang myself without a chair to stand on or shoot myself four times in the back of the head.
Sweaty_Nectarine_585@reddit
ui/ux