Doesn’t make sense why Sublime with Jakob is officially “Sublime”, but Sublime with Rome wasn’t? Other than nepo baby privilege. Bands change lineups all the time, it’s not like Jakob is Brad reincarnated.
You just blew my mind, and I have questions! Ok, so if two of the best runners in the world had a kid, that kid would be -in all likelihood- genetically set up to run well. (I know it doesn’t always happen like this, but does often.)
Vocal cords are a physical part of the body, and would presumably be passed down generationally just like leg muscles.
A person could be set up to be talented based on genetics, but they still have to put in the work to be actually good. The body still needs to be trained with the same rigor and will. They don't just fall into the world knowing music theory or athletic techniques
When Jason Bonham sat in for his dead dad, no one batted an eye. It made sense
When Shane Hawkins showed up at the Taylor Hawkins memorial concert and sat in with Foo Fighters on Taylor’s favorite Foos song, no one batted an eye. It made sense.
When Wolfgang Van Halen plays a Van Halen song and shreds his dad’s solos perfectly, no one bats an eye.
When Dhani Harrison showed up and played “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” at his dad’s Rock n Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, no one batted an eye.
Do you know why none of these situations are an issue? Because it’s not just a “nepo” situation where their dad gets them a gig. They sound like their fathers. Their fathers are their music teachers. They carry the same sense of melody, groove, etc…
When you’re trying to fill that hole, why not the person most genetically like them who also have their instruments and were taught by them to play those exact songs?
It makes the absolute most sense to me that that person would be the one standing in.
What, like the estate of Bradley Nowell dictated that the name Sublime couldn’t be used without any qualifiers unless his offspring fronted the band? That’s even worse nepotism than if the band just decided that to keep Brad’s “spirit” alive…
You are correct, actually. Brad's family wouldn't let the band use the name so they changed it to "Sublime with Rome" to get around it as a technicality.
Also, Eric fired Rome in the middle of a tour and killed the band to reform with Jakob as Sublime. Fucked over Rome and their fans who had bought tickets. He's been pretty scummy and it is hard for me not to see the sublime "reunion" as a cash in.
It is pretty decent. The guy needs to find himself though, his own sound. I love that he sounds similar to his father, but you can tell the guitar talent isn’t on the same level. If Bud and Eric though are backing him on this, especially Bud, I say let the son cook and see what he can do over time.
He has his own sound. He's just playing with someone else's band that has its own distinct sound. If that changed people would complain that it doesn't sound like Sublime.
That is a very good point, and I’ll concede to that.
I’ve always wondered if Brad had any songs written that were never made (due to his death) and if so, the family would be the ones who have them. If Jakob had them, then to hear his rendition of his father’s work on an album mixed with his own would be awesome.
It is absolutely WILD you're being down voted for this. Did everyone miss the extremely problematic lyrics?
You hate me 'cause I got what you need
A pretty little daughter that we call Mexi,
And then later in the song
When I kiss Mexi she makes me feel horny
Knowles didn't have a daughter so whatever but there are many many many other songs lyrics he wrote that are extremely problematic. They do not translate well into the modern day.
Fucking singing about a 15 year old prostitute who he feels bad for but also fucks
Isn't every woman someone's daughter? Not seeing the lyrical problems with this. Musical history is replete with examples of artists glorifying engaging with those underage. At least in the "wrong way" example you bring up they are calling it out in the song's title.
Brad married a 25 year old (was 3 years older when he and Troy married). Elvis met Priscilla when she was 14 and he was 24. In the spectrum of things to get huffy about in the entertainment industry. Sublime's lyrics are at the lower end of that objectionable spectrum.
Really sounds like he's talking about a baby but ok (pretty little daughter that we call Mexi) doesn't sound like he's talking about someone else's daughter or an adult
The lyrics Bradley wrote back then do not translate well into today's era
Stating that opinion shouldn't be controversial and no one should try to be using Elvis (the fuck) to argue that because we're not talking about Elvis.
Shoehorning lyrical interpretation to fit your personal worldview is what's controversial here. "Sounds like" is just, like, your opinion, man. We're all welcome to interpret them whatever way we want, but germane to this discussion is that Brad didn't leave any evidence (I am aware of) that he enjoyed making out with 5-year olds.
Yep. They're also lyrics written by a dude. No need to defend them. There's plenty of genuinely transcendent shit in the Sublime catalog. Badfish, boss DJ, lots of the covers they did, rivers of Babylon, saw red is still a fun song that kind holds up. Caress me down was uncomfortable when it came out. So was Date Rape. They were edgelord gen xers. It's understandable.
Oh and I should say I don't really find "Caress me down" to be problematic. It's pretty obvious Badley doesn't mean HIS daughter. Idk what this other dude is on about 🤣 For years I actually thought he was saying "pretty little ha-nah" like it was some cool SoCal lingo for a hot Latina us Midwest kids just weren't hip to.
That's the hand waving I'm talking about though. At some point, the moral curve has to say this is enough. I'm not even accusing Bradley of anything nefarious besides writing edgy lyrics, though I wouldn't blame anyone for making that jump. It sure sounds autobiographical...My point though is I wouldn't support an artist writing lyrics that glorify sex with underage children today, so I'm not going to blast songs from my past (at least not with anyone younger in the car) doing the same just because 'it's just rock and roll man'. Yeah, there are waaaaaay worse examples. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin. Steve Tyler obtained legal guardianship of a 16-year-old female fan to take her on tour and maintain a "relationship." Jimmy Page was banging Lori Mattix when she was only 14. Ted Nugent was granted legal guardianship of 17-year-old Pelle Funk in order to maintain a relationship with her. R. Kelly filmed himself pissing on a 15 year old and eventually landed a 30 sentence for some of the fucked up shit he did. None of it is OK. None of it should be glorified. There comes a point for all things where society comes together and says this is not okay. I remember knowing several girls in the 90's that were only in Jr high or highschool "dating" grown ass adults and seeing so many other adults in their lives condoning it. Saying things like oh girls just mature faster than boys. I knew a girl that got knocked up at 15 by a 32 year old. Even as a 16 year old dude I thought that was gross back then. Now that I'm in my 40's it think it's fucking disgusting. I'd loose my shit if my 16 year old was dating a 20 something let alone a 32 year old. I'm pretty sure most parents in the US at least would probably agree. Don't get me wrong, I still love Sublime. I still rock out most of thier songs, and I'll admit to singing along to wrong way when I'm in the car all by myself. It's objectively a good song. I'm just trying to be a little more self-aware as an adult.
Yeah there's a LOT of anti-women stuff in there. I love his voice and the music itself but lyrically Nowell wasn't very good. It's why Sublime has become analogous to frat bros. It's a bummer because with a slightly less misogynistic songwriting, lots of these songs would be amazing. Musically, there's not a lot like Sublime.
"Annie's twelve years old, in two more she'll be a whore...." "Strong if I can, but I am only a man
So I take her to the can." ....yeah. I've had to refect on the bands lyrics in my older years. Sublime was once of my top 3 bands of the 90's and I do still love them but it's alot more nostalgia these days than anything. There is only so much hand waving "things were just different," that you can do. On the other hand there are still several of the songs that still hold up and even a couple lyrical gems. Badfish still occasionally pulls a tear from my eye after learning what the song was really about years after Nowell died. Having friends lose thier life to addiction really makes that song just hit. Unfortunately with Bud's bullshit last year I just can't listen to them anymore unless I actually open the ol' CD binder. I won't even send my fractions of a penny to them anymore.
When I first heard it I agreed with your take and wasn't a fan, but it eventually grew on me. Over the years it has become one of my favorite Sublime songs. To each their own.
I had the same thought. It's like carbon copy of an old school Sublime song, rather than reflecting the creativity and vision of Jakob. It sounds good, sure, but does not sound like something new.
Hard pass, He could have used his fathers influence to create a new sound instead of mimicking his fathers. So here we are with Sublime 3.0 At least with Rome they created a newer sound that was original.
Since you've never heard of Jakob's other bands how could you possibly say he didn't create his new sound and wasn't original?
You based that opinion off one song? So my factual statement clearly offended you and that's what your hissy fit is all about. Thank you for actually proving my point 😂
Oh man, it's really funny to see you spiral. You're seriously that offended that I pointed out you based your comment off one song? Seriously? 😂
Are you embarrassed that you didn't know Jakob has other bands and his own original sound? That's just dumb. Or are you a complete narcissist that falls to pieces when other people point out their ignorance? That's just pathetic.
Wow, he is his dad’s son, they sound exactly the same. I just listened to the first album side by side, you can’t tell the difference. Hopefully he stays healthy and starts touring with the band
It’s okay. He sounds like his dad but they don’t sound like the sublime I remember. Maybe the song has a bit of a punk vibe at some point after the video was cut off.
Nah. Sublime was Bradley. Nepotism is nepotism and we wouldn't know this kid but for his dad.
And honestly, had Bradley not OD'ed we probably wouldn't remember Sublime either. They were OK, but the scarcity of two albums and a couple mix tapes makes their music seem much better than it was. The only ska/punk band from that era with staying power is Rancid. No Doubt arguably, but they moved away from the genre to maintain a fan base. The rest rely on an aging fan base attending nostalgia tours. Ska didn't survive Y2K.
I saw them perform in Asbury Park last year. As a 30+ year fan of sublime it was nice to just hear someone who sounded like Bradley. It was a shit show though. The kid was nervous as hell and maybe drunk. He didn't know the words to most of the songs. He kept running around to try to get the crowd energized but it left him out of breath so he could barely sing.
The cool part about Sublime is how was a gateway drug to better music. That kind of multi-genre music is all over the place now. Coupled with really awful lyrics on most songs, it just doesn't hold up for a modern listen. Still are some transcendent gems in the catalogue though. The opening to second hand smoke is wonderful. I'd love to see that played live.
Similar experience in Upstate NY. Dude ran around the stage yelling like it was rage core. Not the sublime I signed up to see. Left a horrible impression on us. To be fair, this song sounds nothing like how he sang in concert.
The St. Louis show was pretty terrible. I was so excited and left early. It was all off.
My hot take conspiracy theory is that these studio recordings are adjusted, definitely with auto tune and possibly with AI, to make him sound more like Brad. He didn't sound this similar live.
Yep saw them in Minnesota last year. Honestly thought he did better than you're describing but not a lot. Overall I had a great time and thought it was a good show. He could not stop talking after the show was over and he kept talking for several minutes before they took his mic away lol.
Hahaha poor nervous kid. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed a lot of it. It just wasn't a good introduction to sublime for younger attendees. I am cautiously optimistic he'll get better over time.
I like it. He's obviously not his dad (which is good, because....well, you know), but if they do like they said and keep this as an epilogue instead of a new chapter for the band, then I'm on board.
I'll start by saying this, I'm a musician and I've loved sublime since the 90's
One of the reasons Sublime was so popular was because they were what you call a power trio, or 3 piece band of really talented dudes.
Brad knew the guitar fret board up and down, knew many styles of music and his music reflected that.
I love Jakob to death but he's not very musically talented. Sure he can play chords and sing...but he can't solo... and that's a big 💩
Brad used to RIP on songs like pawn shop, unfortunately Jake can't really keep up and I feel like he's just trying to replicate what Dad was doing. Don't get me wrong he's a good musician, he's just not Brad.
Hey we're all entitled to our opinion, but with all due respect, comparing their musical abilities is like comparing apples and oranges. He's actually been playing guitar longer than Brad now..
The good part is he acknowledges all that publicly. He has said in a few interviews he’ll never be as good as his dad. He’s just filling a hole and making some smiles along the way for the old and new fans. I respect that and am enjoying him covering his dad’s stuff and the new stuff sounds decent. Ensenada lyrically is awful but the sound is damn good. I hope they keep rolling out hits but do more than say a 20 word loop of making love to a *(radio edit).
Well said, yeah I saw his interviews and he's definitely honest about it, it's just a different band without Brad. I love that his son carried on the legacy, it's better to burn out than fade away.
I feel like it is the generic commercial version of OG Sublime. Kind of like when Vanzandts brother took over lynyrd skynyrd...it just isn't the same and never will be for obvious reasons.
This song is way better than the one they kept pushing on the radio here in Seattle for their tour. I just don't think the vibe is right for the soundscape at this time
Saw Sublime with him. Didn't mention his dad once or even say he was thankful for him or the legacy he left him. I realize Bradley wasnt exactly epic dadness. But the man created the trough that you now eat at. Least you could do is throw in a "thanks pop"
It was more than just not mentioning. He was literally puffing his chest and saying he deserved all the credit for his own success. It was all the evidence I needed to make a fair judgement of his character. It made me not want to see Sublime with him ever again. If it were just him not mentioning something personal, singing his own songs, that he wrote, I wouldn't have taken it so seriously.
binBashed360@reddit
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
DaDutchBoyLT1@reddit
Fuck Bud g and anyone that plays with him, also Bradly is a k9 finger blaster. RIP Louie dog…👉🍩
Beguiling_Bedwetter@reddit
Ha! Magats protect all kinds of sexual offenders. Jeewiz always said “bring me you sick, your downtrodden, your pedos, your dog fuckers”
BlueBomber13@reddit
Ex-fucking-scuse me?
DaDutchBoyLT1@reddit
Well Bud Gaugh is a magat with some real closed views and Brad stuck his fingers up his dogs ass on multiple occasions a few of which were documented.
Orongorongorongo@reddit
So this is true? I read that a while back and thought it must be a joke, because who would do that?
DaDutchBoyLT1@reddit
A drugged up jack ass who was trying to be edgy. It was not just on one occasion either.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Ensenada was the first release from the album so it would've been Sublime's first song since 1996
Silly_Fortune3725@reddit
Yeah, I was gonna say. DC101's been playing "Ensenada" every hour on the hour for months.
SteveEcks@reddit
KROQ doing the same in LA
LazyBengal2point0@reddit
He sounds just like his dad. Crazy to think Jake was only 11 months old when his dad passed in 96
Skittleavix@reddit
And she said “You’re not the only one, but you’re the best Jakob!”
OldCreezy@reddit
buhpbuhp
Alaska_Pipeliner@reddit
96....so like 12 years..........holy shit.
LazyBengal2point0@reddit
I'm a little slow this morning... What did I miss?
Relic180@reddit
Our youth feels like it was 12 years ago, so we're just gonna say it was 12 years ago.
Indubitalist@reddit
As official math commissioner, I’ll allow it.
Double-Tradition413@reddit
It’s so sad.
omarmctrigger@reddit
Does it sound exactly like Sublime did 30 years ago? Yup. Does that means I think it’s good? Nope.
GuySmiley369@reddit
This is not their first new song. Until the Sun Explodes will be their first new album. But their first single, Ensenada was released last year.
Nadathug@reddit
Doesn’t make sense why Sublime with Jakob is officially “Sublime”, but Sublime with Rome wasn’t? Other than nepo baby privilege. Bands change lineups all the time, it’s not like Jakob is Brad reincarnated.
Rampasta@reddit
For whatever reason, people believe talent is heritable.
RainerGerhard@reddit
You just blew my mind, and I have questions! Ok, so if two of the best runners in the world had a kid, that kid would be -in all likelihood- genetically set up to run well. (I know it doesn’t always happen like this, but does often.)
Vocal cords are a physical part of the body, and would presumably be passed down generationally just like leg muscles.
Was he born to be a singer??
Rampasta@reddit
A person could be set up to be talented based on genetics, but they still have to put in the work to be actually good. The body still needs to be trained with the same rigor and will. They don't just fall into the world knowing music theory or athletic techniques
Nadathug@reddit
True; but that reason is “not understanding where talent comes from”
DoctorFenix@reddit
When Jason Bonham sat in for his dead dad, no one batted an eye. It made sense
When Shane Hawkins showed up at the Taylor Hawkins memorial concert and sat in with Foo Fighters on Taylor’s favorite Foos song, no one batted an eye. It made sense.
When Wolfgang Van Halen plays a Van Halen song and shreds his dad’s solos perfectly, no one bats an eye.
When Dhani Harrison showed up and played “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” at his dad’s Rock n Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, no one batted an eye.
Do you know why none of these situations are an issue? Because it’s not just a “nepo” situation where their dad gets them a gig. They sound like their fathers. Their fathers are their music teachers. They carry the same sense of melody, groove, etc…
When you’re trying to fill that hole, why not the person most genetically like them who also have their instruments and were taught by them to play those exact songs?
It makes the absolute most sense to me that that person would be the one standing in.
goosedog79@reddit
I wondered this too, but I’ve heard it’s a lot of legal jargon with rights to songs, names, etc not sure how true that is.
Nadathug@reddit
What, like the estate of Bradley Nowell dictated that the name Sublime couldn’t be used without any qualifiers unless his offspring fronted the band? That’s even worse nepotism than if the band just decided that to keep Brad’s “spirit” alive…
TetraLoach@reddit
You are correct, actually. Brad's family wouldn't let the band use the name so they changed it to "Sublime with Rome" to get around it as a technicality.
Also, Eric fired Rome in the middle of a tour and killed the band to reform with Jakob as Sublime. Fucked over Rome and their fans who had bought tickets. He's been pretty scummy and it is hard for me not to see the sublime "reunion" as a cash in.
DarksunDaFirst@reddit
It is pretty decent. The guy needs to find himself though, his own sound. I love that he sounds similar to his father, but you can tell the guitar talent isn’t on the same level. If Bud and Eric though are backing him on this, especially Bud, I say let the son cook and see what he can do over time.
For now, it’s decent.
water_bottle1776@reddit
He has his own sound. He's just playing with someone else's band that has its own distinct sound. If that changed people would complain that it doesn't sound like Sublime.
AldusPrime@reddit
Yeah, if people listen to his stuff with Jakob's Castle, it's clear he had his own sound.
He's deliberately doing his dad's sound because he's doing Sublime.
DarksunDaFirst@reddit
That is a very good point, and I’ll concede to that.
I’ve always wondered if Brad had any songs written that were never made (due to his death) and if so, the family would be the ones who have them. If Jakob had them, then to hear his rendition of his father’s work on an album mixed with his own would be awesome.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Check out Feel Like That
water_bottle1776@reddit
It's just weird because he sounds EXACTLY like his dad. I legit thought Ensenada was an unreleased old song when I first heard it.
El_Caganer@reddit
Thought it was cool that Rome wouldn't cover Caress Me Down because it's sang from Brad's perspective. Much respect
bakerfaceman@reddit
That's also not a good song. It won't hold up for modern ears.
New_Stats@reddit
It is absolutely WILD you're being down voted for this. Did everyone miss the extremely problematic lyrics?
And then later in the song
Knowles didn't have a daughter so whatever but there are many many many other songs lyrics he wrote that are extremely problematic. They do not translate well into the modern day. Fucking singing about a 15 year old prostitute who he feels bad for but also fucks
El_Caganer@reddit
Isn't every woman someone's daughter? Not seeing the lyrical problems with this. Musical history is replete with examples of artists glorifying engaging with those underage. At least in the "wrong way" example you bring up they are calling it out in the song's title. Brad married a 25 year old (was 3 years older when he and Troy married). Elvis met Priscilla when she was 14 and he was 24. In the spectrum of things to get huffy about in the entertainment industry. Sublime's lyrics are at the lower end of that objectionable spectrum.
New_Stats@reddit
Really sounds like he's talking about a baby but ok (pretty little daughter that we call Mexi) doesn't sound like he's talking about someone else's daughter or an adult
The lyrics Bradley wrote back then do not translate well into today's era
Stating that opinion shouldn't be controversial and no one should try to be using Elvis (the fuck) to argue that because we're not talking about Elvis.
El_Caganer@reddit
Shoehorning lyrical interpretation to fit your personal worldview is what's controversial here. "Sounds like" is just, like, your opinion, man. We're all welcome to interpret them whatever way we want, but germane to this discussion is that Brad didn't leave any evidence (I am aware of) that he enjoyed making out with 5-year olds.
New_Stats@reddit
Yes. I literally stated that was my opinion.
Never said he did, I said the lyrics he wrote don't translate well into today's modern error because they fucking don't
bakerfaceman@reddit
Yep. They're also lyrics written by a dude. No need to defend them. There's plenty of genuinely transcendent shit in the Sublime catalog. Badfish, boss DJ, lots of the covers they did, rivers of Babylon, saw red is still a fun song that kind holds up. Caress me down was uncomfortable when it came out. So was Date Rape. They were edgelord gen xers. It's understandable.
DJ_MedeK8@reddit
Oh and I should say I don't really find "Caress me down" to be problematic. It's pretty obvious Badley doesn't mean HIS daughter. Idk what this other dude is on about 🤣 For years I actually thought he was saying "pretty little ha-nah" like it was some cool SoCal lingo for a hot Latina us Midwest kids just weren't hip to.
DJ_MedeK8@reddit
That's the hand waving I'm talking about though. At some point, the moral curve has to say this is enough. I'm not even accusing Bradley of anything nefarious besides writing edgy lyrics, though I wouldn't blame anyone for making that jump. It sure sounds autobiographical...My point though is I wouldn't support an artist writing lyrics that glorify sex with underage children today, so I'm not going to blast songs from my past (at least not with anyone younger in the car) doing the same just because 'it's just rock and roll man'. Yeah, there are waaaaaay worse examples. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin. Steve Tyler obtained legal guardianship of a 16-year-old female fan to take her on tour and maintain a "relationship." Jimmy Page was banging Lori Mattix when she was only 14. Ted Nugent was granted legal guardianship of 17-year-old Pelle Funk in order to maintain a relationship with her. R. Kelly filmed himself pissing on a 15 year old and eventually landed a 30 sentence for some of the fucked up shit he did. None of it is OK. None of it should be glorified. There comes a point for all things where society comes together and says this is not okay. I remember knowing several girls in the 90's that were only in Jr high or highschool "dating" grown ass adults and seeing so many other adults in their lives condoning it. Saying things like oh girls just mature faster than boys. I knew a girl that got knocked up at 15 by a 32 year old. Even as a 16 year old dude I thought that was gross back then. Now that I'm in my 40's it think it's fucking disgusting. I'd loose my shit if my 16 year old was dating a 20 something let alone a 32 year old. I'm pretty sure most parents in the US at least would probably agree. Don't get me wrong, I still love Sublime. I still rock out most of thier songs, and I'll admit to singing along to wrong way when I'm in the car all by myself. It's objectively a good song. I'm just trying to be a little more self-aware as an adult.
bakerfaceman@reddit
Yeah there's a LOT of anti-women stuff in there. I love his voice and the music itself but lyrically Nowell wasn't very good. It's why Sublime has become analogous to frat bros. It's a bummer because with a slightly less misogynistic songwriting, lots of these songs would be amazing. Musically, there's not a lot like Sublime.
DJ_MedeK8@reddit
"Annie's twelve years old, in two more she'll be a whore...." "Strong if I can, but I am only a man So I take her to the can." ....yeah. I've had to refect on the bands lyrics in my older years. Sublime was once of my top 3 bands of the 90's and I do still love them but it's alot more nostalgia these days than anything. There is only so much hand waving "things were just different," that you can do. On the other hand there are still several of the songs that still hold up and even a couple lyrical gems. Badfish still occasionally pulls a tear from my eye after learning what the song was really about years after Nowell died. Having friends lose thier life to addiction really makes that song just hit. Unfortunately with Bud's bullshit last year I just can't listen to them anymore unless I actually open the ol' CD binder. I won't even send my fractions of a penny to them anymore.
El_Caganer@reddit
What did Bud do last year? Am not filled in
El_Caganer@reddit
When I first heard it I agreed with your take and wasn't a fan, but it eventually grew on me. Over the years it has become one of my favorite Sublime songs. To each their own.
bakerfaceman@reddit
Yeah for sure. I definitely like a lot of their off-color songs too. The opening of second hand smoke is still my favorite.
pr_capone@reddit
I hope Rome stays far the fuck away from this.
metmerc@reddit
I had the same thought. It's like carbon copy of an old school Sublime song, rather than reflecting the creativity and vision of Jakob. It sounds good, sure, but does not sound like something new.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
😂
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Uhh, he has a whole other band he's been playing with for years. This is his tribute to his dad.
Find his own sound 😂😂😂
rudidso@reddit
will there or is there an album?
IranolosDelSol@reddit
I like it! Well done :)
Healthy-Neat-2989@reddit
Yay. 100% yay.
Rathemon@reddit
sounds great!
OkTechnology9101@reddit
Yup, Sublime still sucks. The only good thing they did was 40 Oz to Freedom.
thenoid42@reddit
Hard pass, He could have used his fathers influence to create a new sound instead of mimicking his fathers. So here we are with Sublime 3.0 At least with Rome they created a newer sound that was original.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
You based that off 1 song? What do you think of LAW or Jakob's Castle?
thenoid42@reddit
You seem overly sensitive and get easily offended when people don’t share the same opinion as you.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Your statement might be textbook irony😂
So now that you let us know you're offended and sensitive. What do you think of LAW and Jakob's Castle?
thenoid42@reddit
I've never heard of them. And thank you for making my point. I don't get offended when people don't like the same music as me.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Since you've never heard of Jakob's other bands how could you possibly say he didn't create his new sound and wasn't original?
You based that opinion off one song? So my factual statement clearly offended you and that's what your hissy fit is all about. Thank you for actually proving my point 😂
thenoid42@reddit
How juvenile can you possibly be..? Not everybody likes the same things as you buddy We're all entitled to an opinion, get over it.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
Oh man, it's really funny to see you spiral. You're seriously that offended that I pointed out you based your comment off one song? Seriously? 😂
Are you embarrassed that you didn't know Jakob has other bands and his own original sound? That's just dumb. Or are you a complete narcissist that falls to pieces when other people point out their ignorance? That's just pathetic.
Malaguy420@reddit
He sounds JUST like his dad.
ET__@reddit
F yea I’d listen to this
ahrumah@reddit
For all the 90’s revitalism that’s occurred over the last 8 years or so, it’s kinda weird we never had the return of the Sublime Bro.
edasto42@reddit
Never liked them then, and doubly so today especially when they play MAGA events.
owlthebeer97@reddit
He sounds soooo much like him it's wild.
spf57@reddit
I honestly thought this was a lost song they put out. Cool that it’s his son. Good stuff.
gimmeslack12@reddit
I had a sad realization that the band was a collection of drug addicts. Watching back in interviews and thing’s they were pretty lame.
Medical-Enthusiasm56@reddit
Wow, he is his dad’s son, they sound exactly the same. I just listened to the first album side by side, you can’t tell the difference. Hopefully he stays healthy and starts touring with the band
Separate-Sky-1451@reddit
I dig it. And I agree with others: dad would be proud.
Don_Shetland@reddit
Ya. I still love sublime. This is great.
likeyournamebutworse@reddit
It's fine. But it sounds contrived rather than authentic. Guys got a great voice though.
Sw4nR0ns0n@reddit
It would be much cooler if he just did his own thing and did not call it sublime imo
SomethingFunnyObv@reddit
It’s okay. He sounds like his dad but they don’t sound like the sublime I remember. Maybe the song has a bit of a punk vibe at some point after the video was cut off.
AmputeeHandModel@reddit
throwsplasticattrees@reddit
Nah. Sublime was Bradley. Nepotism is nepotism and we wouldn't know this kid but for his dad.
And honestly, had Bradley not OD'ed we probably wouldn't remember Sublime either. They were OK, but the scarcity of two albums and a couple mix tapes makes their music seem much better than it was. The only ska/punk band from that era with staying power is Rancid. No Doubt arguably, but they moved away from the genre to maintain a fan base. The rest rely on an aging fan base attending nostalgia tours. Ska didn't survive Y2K.
frenchinhalerbought@reddit
So many bad takes in one post 😂
MnkyBzns@reddit
Sounds just like his dad but now the band just sounds like every other reggae rock/dub band, these days.
Yes, Sublime is one of the pioneers of that sound, but they aren't doing anything new to stand out or progress.
No_Brain_5164@reddit
I like it
bakerfaceman@reddit
I saw them perform in Asbury Park last year. As a 30+ year fan of sublime it was nice to just hear someone who sounded like Bradley. It was a shit show though. The kid was nervous as hell and maybe drunk. He didn't know the words to most of the songs. He kept running around to try to get the crowd energized but it left him out of breath so he could barely sing.
The cool part about Sublime is how was a gateway drug to better music. That kind of multi-genre music is all over the place now. Coupled with really awful lyrics on most songs, it just doesn't hold up for a modern listen. Still are some transcendent gems in the catalogue though. The opening to second hand smoke is wonderful. I'd love to see that played live.
Similar-Sir-2952@reddit
Similar experience in Upstate NY. Dude ran around the stage yelling like it was rage core. Not the sublime I signed up to see. Left a horrible impression on us. To be fair, this song sounds nothing like how he sang in concert.
thecityofthefuture@reddit
The St. Louis show was pretty terrible. I was so excited and left early. It was all off.
My hot take conspiracy theory is that these studio recordings are adjusted, definitely with auto tune and possibly with AI, to make him sound more like Brad. He didn't sound this similar live.
Kalel42@reddit
Saw them at Warped Tour last year. In a festival setting it was enjoyable, but as a standalone show I would have been very disappointed.
Messijoes18@reddit
Yep saw them in Minnesota last year. Honestly thought he did better than you're describing but not a lot. Overall I had a great time and thought it was a good show. He could not stop talking after the show was over and he kept talking for several minutes before they took his mic away lol.
bakerfaceman@reddit
Hahaha poor nervous kid. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed a lot of it. It just wasn't a good introduction to sublime for younger attendees. I am cautiously optimistic he'll get better over time.
Itchy-Noise341@reddit
Im a fan, Anything keeping this sound alive works for me honestly.
chawrawbeef@reddit
I dig it
Ryuujin_13@reddit
I like it. He's obviously not his dad (which is good, because....well, you know), but if they do like they said and keep this as an epilogue instead of a new chapter for the band, then I'm on board.
FleetingBrevity@reddit
I'll start by saying this, I'm a musician and I've loved sublime since the 90's
One of the reasons Sublime was so popular was because they were what you call a power trio, or 3 piece band of really talented dudes.
Brad knew the guitar fret board up and down, knew many styles of music and his music reflected that.
I love Jakob to death but he's not very musically talented. Sure he can play chords and sing...but he can't solo... and that's a big 💩
Brad used to RIP on songs like pawn shop, unfortunately Jake can't really keep up and I feel like he's just trying to replicate what Dad was doing. Don't get me wrong he's a good musician, he's just not Brad.
Why_So-Serious@reddit
Hate this take.
1.) Ofcourse he is not Brad. 2.) He still can get better on the guitar if he wants to out in the work.
Both those points a side. The sound is great. We don’t have to have new solos just yet. They can build in to it.
FleetingBrevity@reddit
Hey we're all entitled to our opinion, but with all due respect, comparing their musical abilities is like comparing apples and oranges. He's actually been playing guitar longer than Brad now..
BadRabiesJudger@reddit
The good part is he acknowledges all that publicly. He has said in a few interviews he’ll never be as good as his dad. He’s just filling a hole and making some smiles along the way for the old and new fans. I respect that and am enjoying him covering his dad’s stuff and the new stuff sounds decent. Ensenada lyrically is awful but the sound is damn good. I hope they keep rolling out hits but do more than say a 20 word loop of making love to a *(radio edit).
FleetingBrevity@reddit
Well said, yeah I saw his interviews and he's definitely honest about it, it's just a different band without Brad. I love that his son carried on the legacy, it's better to burn out than fade away.
Veryfreakingbored@reddit
Enseñada is the first song since they've made since the late 90s though
randomhero1980@reddit
I feel like it is the generic commercial version of OG Sublime. Kind of like when Vanzandts brother took over lynyrd skynyrd...it just isn't the same and never will be for obvious reasons.
BaronBearclaw@reddit
I'm excited to give the whole album a listen; I'm intrigued by the first single.
Suspicious_Size4030@reddit
I think is absolutely fantastic.
xakypoo@reddit
Yay
joshhupp@reddit
This song is way better than the one they kept pushing on the radio here in Seattle for their tour. I just don't think the vibe is right for the soundscape at this time
DigitalArbitrage@reddit
It's not the Sublime I liked.
They should start a new band already like the Foo Fighters did after Nirvana.
This goes for Linkin Park too.
Cube-in-B@reddit
I mean… Sublime fucking suuuuuuuuuuck but here we are 🤷🏼
quickguileismyhandle@reddit
Love it!
RoyalPuzzleheaded259@reddit
He sounds so much like his dad. I’ll get the album when it drops.
New_Riley@reddit
How much heart went into this, rly love to see it, fr
freshleysqueezd@reddit
Huh.. still dont like em
pendejo-san@reddit
Sure, why not?
8last@reddit
The sound is there but the song isnt good. AI can already do that.
One-Earth9294@reddit
Not a Sublime fan, so nay lol.
instant_ramen_chef@reddit
Jakob is kinda a dick...
Saw Sublime with him. Didn't mention his dad once or even say he was thankful for him or the legacy he left him. I realize Bradley wasnt exactly epic dadness. But the man created the trough that you now eat at. Least you could do is throw in a "thanks pop"
DW241@reddit
Do you have any other evidence of him being a dick or are you just taking this one instance of not mentioning something extremely personal him?
instant_ramen_chef@reddit
It was more than just not mentioning. He was literally puffing his chest and saying he deserved all the credit for his own success. It was all the evidence I needed to make a fair judgement of his character. It made me not want to see Sublime with him ever again. If it were just him not mentioning something personal, singing his own songs, that he wrote, I wouldn't have taken it so seriously.
DW241@reddit
Okay fair, that is pretty dickish behavior. Name the five greatest sublime singers of all time: Jakob, Jakob, Jakob, Jakob and Jakob
Eastern-Ride-4673@reddit
Nice work. His dad would be proud