Facts, lets not pretend the average person in Middle Earth, Harry Potter, Alagaesia, or even Star Wars saw anything outside of a "normal peasant" life.
Hard work all day, drinks at the pub, travelling bards telling stories of far away wizards with special powers, and unique creatures.
Maybe your uncle saw an Ork or Urgal once in the mountains.
Literally no different than getting off your wage slave job today, heading to the bar, and hearing Whiskey Pete™ tell you about the time he definitely saw Bigfoot in the Appalachian mountains.
Some of the elder scrolls devs are also Eragon fans. They'll slip familiar names and stuff in there every once in a while, both in Skyrim and in ESO. Not to mention the whole "you can ride dragons now" dlc...
Farm boy discovers he had magic powers and goes on adventure with old man knight from old age who passes on knowledge but not enough before dying in first book and then in second book big reveal about family and third book redemption of evil family by defeating evil emperor.
Not my kind of exploring. There's nothing new to _discover_.
Explorers and adventurers often do it for the fame and money, but you can't have that when everything worth exploring has already been explored.
Plenty new to discover. Check this shit out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_sensing_in_archaeology. They’re using that tech because they can’t get to places in person
Can I become rich and famous finding these?
Maybe discover some artifact of unfathomable power?
Kill evil billionaires? A millionaire at least? 🤏
No? So where's the adventure? D:
"nah i'd be the billionaire and the president would marry his daughter to me. I'll influence the elections and the redditors will worship me after i get rich from inheritance and child labor."
Wasn't this one of the big story beats in The Hobbit and LOTR specifically, the two protagonists are 50 something bongs living comfy yet kind of boring basically normal lives until the cool old pothead comes by and whisks them off into crazy life threatening adventures. One of them returned rich and happy it happened, but realized the adventurer lifestyle was definitely NOT for him, and the other got PTSD and fucked off to an Elven retirement home out west, also his hometown got sold out by a corrupt policeman but that's another story.
Fr, that is why you become a peasant in a xianxia fantasy world so you can at least talk about getting beat up by a young master for looking at them the wrong way.
My favorite trope of "fantasy" is when half way there you start noticing the writting on the wall, and figure out its not fantasy but Sci Fi.
"Wait a second... you are telling me all this time the runes being carved are motherboards, the black blood golems are robots that leak oil, demons are aliens from outer space, the ancient armor of the hero that gets passed over generations is actually a space suit power armor, the ancients cave temple was a bunker survival shelter, and the guardian ghosts are just holographic defense systems?"
Endless Legend is one of my favorites 4x strategy games, where superficially it seems fantasy and most races on the planet tend to act as if they are in a fantasy world. But if you read between the lines the planet belonged to a lost precursor race that used it between a zoo and a biological lab for bio weapons. So all races are either species from other planets that were taken from their original planet with no recollection of it happening, or manufactured from the labs of the precursor races on the planet. The race that look like "elves" for example have a whole personal quest involving constructing a tower that will take them out of the planet to salvation, all without knowing or understanding at all that they are building a primitive space elevator with stone that sadly is bound to fail.
There is also games like some of the entries of Heroes of Might and Magic. Chrono Trigger going between fantasy and sci fi with time travel involved. Etc.
Our “ancient tech” isn’t going to be cool and dangerous half buried automaton sentinels, it’s just going to be unmarked minefields, LLMs trapped in decaying drive thru speakers, and LED billboards advertising long dead personal injury lawyers
I was just thinking the other day how magnetism specifically would be seen as a weird magic system if it wasn't a real thing.
"Yeah we got this weird invisible force that we can harvest. We can use it to make things levitate, to aid in navigation, and it can even be used to create energy"
Yep. And I’m sure in the future, it will be even more magical. If we can begin manipulating the fundamental level of matter (whatever that may be), things are gonna get very interesting.
That’s why I said matter. Photons are not matter. They can be turned into matter, but they aren’t matter themselves. Just energy fluctuating in the electromagnetic field.
Yeah, I say this because of our lack of a unified theory. We don’t really understand how gravity works at the atomic level. It’s likely that discovering that means we understand matter in a more fundamental way.
And when I say manipulate matter, I mean at a deeper level than those basic subatomic particles. So at the very least manipulating and changing quarks, but maybe going even past that (for example, changing strings if string theory is real).
Obviously all this is just speculative BS from someone not well educated in the field. But it’s fun to imagine.
Photons *don't* have mass, at least not in the classic sense, which is why they aren't considered matter. They have relativistic mass due to their speed, but they don't have mass the way electrons/protons/neutrons have mass.
Think of, how many historical or natural sights there are near your town or city? Yet you, likely go on vacation 1000 km away, instead of exploring nearby.
A shrimp that punches at the speed of sound, a horse with the height of a building, a miniature whale with a majestic horn, and fish that can (albeit momentarily) fly.
There are many universes where these things are mythical creatures of make believe. But here in this universe, they are just some of the many wondrous animals that inhabit the planet alongside us.
Horse with size of a building?
Fuckit, I wanna be the ACKSHUALLY person for once
Horses and giraffes are actually pretty different from each other. The giraffe's closest living relative is the okapi. ~~they do just look like big horses though. Evolution is a bitch~~
Fun giraffe facts: we have the same number of vertebrae they do in their neck. On males, the "horns" on their head are made of fucking BONE.
Can you make a living fighting those creatures and have bards telling stories of how you defeated them? No.
Is it at least _impressive_ killing one of them with the best weapons available? Nope, you're just murdering a poor animal that was minding their own business.
Can you _at least_ craft powerful relics and weapons from their corpse? No, just normal bones.
So where's the adventure? Yes those creatures exist, but there's nothing epic we can do _about_ them. They're just there.
Dragons kidnap princesses. Goblins raid villages. The fun is fantasy is that there's always a call to _do_ something about those problems _with_ magical creature.
All the problems in real life are caused by normal boring humans fighting normal boring humans. Yeah the secret temples and magical beasts exist but they have nothing to do with anything.
you can literally become a scientist and find ways to cure diseases. You'd save millions if not billions and people will remember you for centuries.
Just excuses man
> In the past, you had gladiators and hunters who got fame and fortune fighting the beasts that exist now. Even in the present, you can say that circus performers such as lion tamers fill this niche in the fame category, and that hunters (legally or otherwise) fill the fortune category.
> That’s more of a symptom of the fact that we, through the magics that scientific advancement has provided us, have gone too far in vanquishing the beats which had so long endangered our lives.
> Various invaluable materials can be recovered from animals, such as horseshoe crab blood, natural silk, and the various amount of ancient relics made from mere “normal bones”.
> I don’t think that one has to slaughter and/or tame the animals in nature in order to have an adventure. The discovery, study, and appreciation of nature are adventures all on their own. And believe it or not, studying animals isn’t just paperwork and taxonomy.
> Dragon kidnappings mean burned villages, which means thousands of dead innocent villagers. Goblin raids mean devastated families and raped women. The true quest of all fields of science, which is the only true equivalent of magic of this world, is to solve the real problems we face (illness, starvation, ignorance), whose calls to action are intrinsic in their own natures.
> If the causes and combatants in real life problems were so boring, then why would anyone go to the effort of spreading the news of such things as far and as wide as they have been spread right now? Perhaps, in being partially (but not completely) disconnected from the world’s real problems, the temples and the beasts serve the role as momentary reprieves from what can seem to be bleak odds at overcoming the problems of real life.
I've been lucky enough to see flying fish when I worked on a container ship. They would occasionally land on deck which was 5m above the water. They were majestic in flight.
And not all jellyfish, just this particular species.
Australia also has the most painful plant in the world(Gimpi gimpi)
And the dumbest animal in the world that eats nothing but poison(koala)
Wtf does anon thing earth is?
It's FULL of fantasy and mystery
https://preview.redd.it/084z1ao604sg1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c79e578f168e504e955856e278e3b54f8703d875
God, I hate up their own ass nihilists
Soooo... What you're saying is, best we can do is some pretty views that you'll have to save up for for years on end? That is, if it even is possible to do where you are from.
Yeah, thanks. Personally, I'd rather risk my life joining an adventurers guild, fighting goblins in ancient dungeons, finding ancient spells/useful artifacts left by long gone civilizations and protecting trade carriages for a living.
And no, earth is not full of fantasy and/or mystery. All the mysteries that remain are within incredibly specialized niches, most of which are unlikely to even be useful to anyone once discovered and/or studied. Fantasy is also dubious at best. The only earthly fantasy most of us have, is daydreaming about things we could never realistically afford, or be able to do.
Don't get me wrong, earth has stuff to do and enjoy, besides, it is quite safe relatively speaking, which in turn allows us to create those fantastical worlds that we crave so much, but you cannot tell me that it is realistically and objectively more interesting and wonderous than worlds we, humans, conceived exactly because most of us will never get to experience said wonders in any form throughout our lifetimes. It is exactly why those worlds exist in our imaginations to begin with.
But I will see none of it and enjoy none of it so what does it matter, what the fuck does anything matter. I just want to feel alive but there is nothing for me on this cursed god damned earth.
I do I travel through the woods near by but it doesn't help nothing does. No Matter what I do who I hangout with, I am still a hollow shell of a man, and honestly I don't think that will ever change. Thank you all the same for the advice and I truly hope you have a wonderful day.
This might sound stupid, but go back out to the woods with no expectation of beauty or anything. Start staring at grass or a tree or whatever and let whatever thoughts start flowing. Two things can happen: you start thinking really in depth about the tree or the grass or whatever, or you start thinking about something else. Sounds dull but sometimes your best interests are gonna have to come from something boring. Gotta let the mind breath and stop trying to force more interests on it, just let whatever your minds wants to happen happen while staring at a tree.
RE zero, (freiren too)is the best example of this I can think of
The "fantasy" world filled with beautiful women and magic is fucking **terrifying** and causes him to be manipulated and killed 1000s of times, and in frieren the only reason our cast doesn't die is because they are the wisest and most powerful warriors in their world
Also in Frieren, even though they have the Mage of the Hero Party with them, running away is still something they do when they encounter a enemy they can't beat, either due to circumstances (anti-magic field) or just a horde of enemies
The average Joe is gonna get eaten by a plant the moment they leave their town
The world is full of mystery and adventure, but you can’t experience it properly if you have main character syndrome. You have to understand that you’re not a hero or a villain, you’re just some guy.
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We just went through a global pandemic and year long lockdowns which significantly changed many aspects of life throughout the world and we're now facing civilizational struggle against the AI takeover of society while WWIII is brewing . If you had told that to any of us 20 years ago it would've sounded like science fiction .
The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning.
-blood meridian
Incorrect.
In most classic fantasy, there is a general sense of exploration and mystery about the world, whether it be due to hidden treasures, ancient dungeons from past civilizations, magical creatures the likes of which no one has ever seen before, ancient magics lost to time throughout the world, etc.
On modern-day Earth, most things within reason have been fairly will explored and well documented.
Wanderlust is the primary draw for most of these stories. That's why most fantasy settings have countries with primarily open borders, and not the Fantasy equivalent of the TSA or 5 hour layover flights via dragons.
Fantasy worlds, despite their typically higher inherent dangers, are also typically far more open and free for people with the mettle and willingness to set forth to see it with their own eyes.
The original OP is talking about the feeling of adventure and exploration in a fantasy world. Most of the commenters here are saying Earth is also like a fantasy world and that if we were born in an actual fantasy setting, we’d find it mundane too. Sure, that’s true, but the OP is talking about the experience of being in one, that sense of wonder you only get if you’re transported into that world, not if you were born there.
Even if we were born there, most of those settings are shown to be vast stretches of unexplored wilderness, ancient ruins with legendary treasures, etc.
The people commenting that we would find it all super boring and mundane if we were born in that world are thinking of it in terms of the fantasy world being just as heavily settled, explored, and historically catalogued as modern day Earth, which is almost never the case in these settings.
Most of the time fantasy settings are placed in Medieval or Victorian era European-style locales, where most "technology" is powered purely through sorcery, where a horse and carriage is the most common mode of transportation for the average person, where the land is steeped in *thousands* of years of fragmented history of previous civilizations whom are only known about through the ruins of their once great culture.
We aren't talking about "Modern day Earth but add some dragons and a few people with magic wands."
In these worlds there is *vastly* more freedom and a sense of exploration and discovery than ours. Even if you *were* born there. Look at stories like Frieren, FMA, hell even Pokemon if you wanna get way more modern. Pokemon's world is stuffed to the gills with *all* of the things I mentioned, and the people in that world are so free that they have global universal healthcare and let freaking *ten year olds* go out on months or years-long adventures with superpowered animals around every turn.
There is an entire universe of unexplained by science supernormal phenomena that can be examined by anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool skeptic and has the humility to admit that maybe we don't have everything figured out. The frontiers of the mind are just waiting to be explored by literally anyone that cares to.
I think even the modern world allows for exploration if you are fine with being somewhat outrageous or cringe, or generally high agency. I'm not that way, unfortunately, but if anything, people like Trump or Musk should inspire us that you can simply do unconventional things and the world just lets you do it.
I just wanna explore the stars man, I want to see what’s beyond of observable universe but no some old cronies have decided it’s not profitable instead we get more orbital debris
if you see our world as boring and mundane, you'll probably be bored by a fantasy world. But there is absolutely adventure and mystery in this world, you just have to get off your ass and look for it.
Born to be an anime protagonist
Forced to live in a country ruled by an obese pedophile and watch in horror as no one (including myself) does anything about it
Well yeah but it sucks, I can't go to the neighbouring town because customs won't let me, I can't go the the tavern and get a job because the "market" is overpopulated, 10% of everything I buy goes to the king whom I can't kill because I'll be shredded with a micro cannon his lackeys carry.
What's the real world equivalent of taking up a sword and going to seek my fortune? Printing off a CV/resume?
What's the real world equivalent of finding hidden treasure on a quest? Taking some annual leave to visit a national park?
What's the real world equivalent of conjuring fire from your hands and soaring through the sky? Gymnastics and a parachute?
What's the real world equivalent to surviving on your wits, meeting people, helping them, and moving on, with your band of companions? Joining the local council?
Facts. They’d just complain on 4Orb about illegal orcs taking all the jobs and the goblins secretly controlling the world and that’s the reason they haven’t left their parent’s cottage to go to wizard school, or join the merchant’s guild, or join the local warrior’s guild.
guy: "¿¿𓅃𓉔𓄿𓏏 𓂧𓇋𓂧 𓇌𓅱𓅲 𓋴𓄿𓇌 ??"
me: "Yeah uhh the dead matter juice used to run our metal carriages is getting expensive lately, so we'll have to walk about 10 minutes to buy fruit shipped from across the ocean."
I used to think: aw if I lived in that fantasy world, id spend every living second learning magic to be the best in the world. And then I go: if that would be true, then why am I not the best at any sport, math, medicine, law anything.
Id be lazy in the wizarding world as well
You don't need the surrounding environment to be magical, you just need to have the right balance of chemicals in your brain, then everything will feel magical.
If you dont have that, then you will be miserable in every one of those magical fantasy worlds :).
Our lives are spent on a planet in which violent discharges of electricity occasionally strike the ground and surrounding objects in the form of what we refer to a "thunders". There exist organisms almost exclusively made up of water; a minority of these is capable of cloning themselves at the very end of their lives. Meanwhile, engineering is a realm which is slowly approaching the marvels magic (to some, it already is equal). At any age, the mere concept of a volcano would amaze anyone who lacked exposure to it in their very childhood. These are mere examples; this very world is what you may define as "fantasy".
People who think this way are mundane and lack drive.
Our reality is filled with mystery and wonder. Even if smarter people already discovered and described most of it, none of us are born with that innate knowledge. If you ever observed toddlers and young kids, you will see them as explorers. They are always curious, asking questions and driven to uncover the mystery about anything that crosses their paths. Sadly, at some point, many of these kids grow up and stop being curious. I don't know why.
The world is yours to explore and learn about. With the age of information, pursuing and satisfying your curiosity has been never easier. But many people choose not to, and prefer to experience the world through the window of others shitposting on tiktok.
We dont know if we discovered most of it. Eistein was advised to not pursue physics cause it was completely solved field with nothing to discover. Then the entire relativity happend and suddenly we know nothing. We could be living in a matrix we could in the future access more dimensions manipulate matter, traverse time - who knows? Certainly we dont
People have already talked about many wonders of our world, so I'll mention my personal fascination - combat aircraft are literally irl mecha, but somehow even cooler:
The pride of their nation, on the very bleeding edge of technological development
A single craft can level a city block by itself
A couple dozen are enough to meaningfully shift the balance in a war
Piloted by a single person(sometimes two)
Expensive af
Air battles are the most spectacular thing ever
I remember doing acid and watching a preying mantis fuck up a wasp in the garden. Some shit about elves or wizards doesn't compare to the shit happening everywhere all the time.
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