Was doing 2 lengths of the swimming pool before you were allowed in the deep end standard practice across the UK?
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I'm an 80s scottish baby that grew up in the 90s and we would visit the local swimming pool at least once a week, twice if the inflatables were out that week lol.
Anyway before you were allowed to go in the deep end of the pool you had to show you could swim. This involved swimming 2 lengths of the swimming pool with no break. As a young child doing your 2 lengths was 1 of those achievements you wanted to get quickly lol.
My questions are-
1) was this common practice across the UK? Did everyone have to do some kind of swim test, whether it was 2 lengths or something different, to be allowed in the deep end?
2) Is there still some sort of test involved to prove you can swim or can you just go in the deep end whenever?
hengehanger@reddit
How can you swim 2 lengths of the pool without going into the deep end?
FryOneFatManic@reddit
England. Our pool was 1 length back in the 70s/80s, no idea about now.
craftyorca135@reddit
Only when I was doing tests for my certificates. I did it no problem as a hobby. School swimming was a nightmare though. They made my swimming lessons a horrible experience and I'm still not sure why. We had to do a certain number of metres before we could not do swimming anymore and have a break class where the swimming lesson would've been. Despite me having literal certificates saying I could do it, they still made me go. I had done it in their pool as well, but it wasn't good enough.
In the end I'm sure they just gave up and let me go to the break class.
Queen_of_London@reddit
My daughter's school made her go to basic swimming lessons starting from the basics. She had been comfortable with swimming lengths since she was 3 years old and had completed every stage of the swimming scheme, and they made her sit on the side for ages, shivering, and then get a 5m badge to add her to her five metre badge from years earlier.
She got told off for doing things that were beyond the ability range they wanted, like being able to dive to the bottom of the pool and pick up a dropped locker key. It encouraged kids who couldn't swim to try the same, because they didn't differentiate based on ability.
I did eventually persuade them that it wasn't helpful. She needed extra maths classes, so it was better do that at that time, or anything rather than not actually swimming. It even put her off swimming for a while and made her feel like she was doing something wrong by being good at it. Sad considering that it was something she should have been able to shine at.
craftyorca135@reddit
Well at the time I had ear plugs for an ear problem and they wouldn't let me wear the custom ones, so I was stuck with ones that I was convinced were gonna fall out. It basically came down to a lack of trust in my teachers, so instead of focussing on swimming, I was making sure my ear plugs were still in.
kebabby72@reddit
Same here. I passed my Honours when I was nine and was already competition swimming when I joined High school at 11 and had my 1 mile badge. But I was still made to swim widths in a pool half the size of an Olympic pool, despite swimming non-stop every morning for an hour in the same fucking pool.
Queen_of_London@reddit
Two lengths as in one to the deep end and then one back to the shallow end? Yeah, still used a lot. I sometimes see kids going to the pool and being made to do the lap test, even if they have a parent with them. Young teens swimming for fun with other kids seem to get asked nearly every time, and fair on them, they just do it without arguing.
If the lifeguard remembers them then they won't be asked every time.
maceion@reddit
Standard practice in Edinburgh in 1950s when I learned to swim.
Green-Dragon-14@reddit
My dad made me swim two length of the shallow end & them put me in the deep end to swim back (my brother was to swim back with me). Turns out I'm a great swimmer.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Yeah we'd a sink or swim type teaching so we had to just kind of go with it lol
Fibro-Mite@reddit
I was terrified of drowning as a child, no idea why and refused to leave the shallow end during school swimming classes. One time a teacher forced me into the water at the deep end when I was around 8 years old and I promptly sank, completely unable to even try to save myself. They had to fish me out with the big pole. I didn't properly learn to swim or enjoy myself in a pool until I was around 11 or so and no one was forcing me into swimming classes.
Green-Dragon-14@reddit
We used to play tig (or tag) in the shallow end to get us used to how water moved & how we moved in water.
Who_am_i_0468@reddit
We'd do widths in the shallow end to get our Bronze Swimming Certificate.
And that is why my LinkedIn profile says I have a BSc...
Training_Echidna_911@reddit
At school you had to swim ten lengths before you were designated a swimmer. Non-swimmers had to wear white togs which helped the teachers know who needed help.
Dependent-Panic-9457@reddit
We had to swim two lengths (England). The assessment was typically on a Sunday afternoon and the entire school would watch and roar the candidate home for the last few yards. Aged 8 or whatever.
monkeyshoulder22@reddit
Same for me, but I'm a similar age and also Scottish. Once you done your 2 lengths you could also go to the pool anytime unsupervised.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Yeah! It was like a right of passage lol
Fearless-Hedgehog661@reddit
*rite
Single-Position-4194@reddit
Swimming pools in England with rare *exceptions stretched from the shallow end to the deep end, so if you swap two lengths you would automatically have to swim to and back from the deep end. I'm guessing it 's different in Scotland?
*Crinnis, an outdoor pool in St Austell in Cornwall, had the deep bit in the middle for some reason.
knomadt@reddit
I remember that pool! I was always terrified of the deep middle, probably because it was so full of algae I couldn't see the bottom.
Single-Position-4194@reddit
Yeah, I could never understand why they designed it that way.
I preferred Polkyth (an indoor pool just down from the council offices;) just before the normal shallow end, they had a really shallow bit for the kiddies. They also had a cafe where you could go for refreshments afterwards.
knomadt@reddit
Yeah, I think Crinnis could have been really nice if it had been maintained properly, but Polkyth was definitely more suited to a wider range of people. It's been a while since I've been there (as I mostly use the Dragon centre in Bodmin now), but I think the cafe is still there.
Fabulous_Cow_4550@reddit
No, Scottish pools are the same. The 2 laps are supervised.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
No it was 1 big long pool. You would try stay near the edge to do your 2 lengths and a lifeguard walked along side you. So you did go from the shallow to deep end while doing the test.
It was a small town so easy for the lifeguards to monitor swimmers. Plus they usually knew us all from around the town anyway lol
ramapyjamadingdong@reddit
Nope. Im a similar age, England. Don't recall this.
I wonder if it was my height that meant I was assumed to be older than I was?
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Might have been. We weren't allowed to go swimming without a guardian until we done our 2 lengths lol. It was a priority so you could go swimming with your friends ๐
onlysigneduptoreply@reddit
Still is. I was with my 8 year old we swam to deep end cos he can swim. They stopped us as we went past the "no non swimmers" sign. I said he has his 100metres and they let him but I've seen them make people do it and keep them in the shallow end
Crumptes@reddit
I'd never heard of it until the lifeguards at the local pool started asking my child. He's nearly finished Stage 5, so has been in the deep end in a group of 10 for months but apparently me watching him 1:1 while he practises what he does in lessons isn't okay.
elaine4queen@reddit
I donโt regret getting rid of many things, but I kind of wish I still had my Scottish Swimmer badge!
Phantom_Crush@reddit
Aye that was how it worked for us in the 80s. Was great if you could swim prior to the lessons because you could just knock out the 2 lengths then do whatever you liked for the rest of the time
wintermute023@reddit
Absolutely, and getting your mum to sow your swimming badges on your trunks.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Mine went on my brownie sash lol then it changed to my girl guide sash and the swimming challenges were harder ๐
Core childhood memories
wintermute023@reddit
Core childhood memories indeed! Mine graduated onto my swimming towel once I had too many for the trunks.
feralhog3050@reddit
My junior school had its own pool, so we were all trotted down for our first lesson aged 7ish. The teacher said she wanted everyone to jump in (in turns) & swim a width of the shallow end, so she could gauge our ability. I told the girl next to me that I couldn't really swim, & she shrugged & said I'd be fine. Came to my turn, I jumped in & sank to the bottom. I had to be fished out with a hoop on the end of a long pole, & was then rolled up shivering in a towel for the remainder of the lesson, and then ordered to take extra tuition, lol
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Making sure you could swim really did seem a top priority lol
feralhog3050@reddit
I'm definitely not a natural ๐
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
They clearly didnt care ๐ basically sink or swim lol
Wasps_are_bastards@reddit
We used to have to do widths
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
How many of those did they get you to do?
Wasps_are_bastards@reddit
I honestly canโt remember, it was 40 years ago lol
Slight-Brush@reddit
Still is some places - unaccompaniedย children can be asked to pass a 50m swim test (ie do 2 lengths) before being allowed on the aquapark-style inflatable at my local pool if the lifeguards are feeling especially diligent.
Ditto before being allowed to go kayaking with the scouts.
Or before joining the junior summer course at my local rowing club.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Thank you! Glad to see its still a thing.
Do you know if they still do a cycling proficiency? Lol
Slight-Brush@reddit
Still offered - and there's also Bikeability offered in many places, for children and adults.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
I dont think we had an option to not sit the cycling proficiency. But well back then your bike went everywhere with you lol
Slight-Brush@reddit
I grew up in London where it was totally optional because by 11 we all had a bus pass anyway...
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
We didnt even have a school bus lol just your regular stagecoach bus or walk the half mile
Slight-Brush@reddit
Exactly; we all got normal public buses not school buses... hence the pass
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Aww I wish we'd something like that! I lived up hill and would have loved to have not had to walk the 2 hills home ๐
chappersyo@reddit
How you gonna swim two lengths without going into the deep end?
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
We did go into the deep end. But you stayed near the edge when doing your 2 lengths and the lifeguard walked along side you
Lady-of-Shivershale@reddit
Yeah, I remember doing this. I was at the pool with my sister, the pool we practically grew up in; we were there every day in the summers. A lifeguard who knew us got pissy and made me swim the two laps because we were in deeper water than she wanted us to be in.
For those 'confused' about the test taking me into deeper water, the lifeguard had a pole she carried while walking along with me. It was dipped into the water in front of me for the whole two lengths, and I could have easily grabbed it had I been unable to do the swim.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Yeah our lifeguards walked along side you with a pole when you did your 2 lengths lol
SnooDonuts6494@reddit
Dunno about that, but as a PADI SCUBA instructor, my students have to swim 200m ... but that's with fins and a snorkel, no time limit, so it's a piece of piss.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
I remember them having a whole semester of swimming lessons at school that were focused on things to do if drowning lol.
They taught us to tie the bottom of tracksuit bottoms, throw them over your head and make a float ๐ Jeans dont work lol.
They also had these weights and dummy's they would sink to the bottom and have us rescue them ๐
The best part of all of it was the snorkels and flippers
SnooDonuts6494@reddit
Oh yeah, I remember doing some stuff like that at school (80s)... we wore pyjamas.
I was still crap at swimming though. So for me, as an adult... the "swimming tests" were the hardest part about becoming a dive instructor. I had to practice a lot to get good enough. I'm still not great but, good enough.
And in practical terms... if I have to get more than like 50 m from the boat (for some kind of emergency), I'd grab my fins before jumping in, 'coz it just makes everything SO much easier.
[The rather important other thing is, remember to take your weight belt off before doing that :p]
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Like what scenario did they see you in the ocean in you pyjamas ๐ going a cruise was definitely beyond the means of most families back then.
Im a good swimmer as long as im moving. I cant do the whole wading water thing on my own. Didn't matter how much they tried teaching me it at school id panic and sink ๐
But if im on the move in can happily swim for ages
SnooDonuts6494@reddit
Treading water is way easier if you're in a wetsuit though. So is swimming. Those things are tremendously buoyant.
I'm also OK with swimming for ages, now. I could do a mile, no problem. It's just... when I first learned, I was trying far too hard - I'd do quite a strong front-crawl for like 5 mins, then be totally knackered. I think the key is to pace yourself.
Burnandcount@reddit
1980s outside London - had that plus requirement to do a lap of the whole pool lengths & widths in pyjamas to be allowed to go rowing on the Thames... I found it hilarious as an already qualified life guard with open water (sea/surf rescue) certificate and open water distance medals to 10km! (Did the pool lap underwater in a single breath to prove a point).
Fabulous_Cow_4550@reddit
I grew up near London & it was common there. 10 years ago, I used to take my friends' kids swimming & it was the rule still.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Its a good system to have. I remember a few kids trying to show off and ending up in trouble becaise they weren't good swimmers yet
Fabulous_Cow_4550@reddit
I totally agree.
It was funny though as we used to swim every weekend so the lifeguards knew us & we'd mess around in the deep end, had been going to that pool since the kids were babies. The younger kid about 6, would flail & bob under the water. Didn't matter cos they all knew us. One week, new guard saw him flail & told him he had to stay in the shallow end. I asked if kid could redo the lengths to prove he could swim & was messing around. Guard was really, really sceptical & laid it on thick. I explained that I know many people try to get round the rules but he actually was a competent swimmer. Eventually, he let kid try. The guard's face when kid then performed a length of perfect butterfly befpre turning into perfect dolphin was fab!
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Was a small town for me so the lifeguards knew all of us and our parents from around the town. Was always a hassle when an out of towner would come work for a day lol
Fabulous_Cow_4550@reddit
Yes! Exactly that! :)
N64Andysaurus92@reddit
Yes.
I don't know if it was just my school or if this was UK wide thing but the pool was sectioned off in to sections for different abilities and you had to earn badges to progress.
Black: 'Happy in the water', could show basic safety and swimming abilities
Red: Had to swim one length on front
Green: Had to swim two lengths, one on front and second on back
That's as far as I got but there were also Yellow and Blue badges, but I don't remember the requirement, I know one involved diving in and retrieving an item off the floor of the deepest part.
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
Ooo we never had a colour scheme. Ours was basically just sink or swim ๐
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
Brought up in the west country, we had to do two widths and then two lengths.
yesthenshaggers@reddit
I was brought up in Hull, it was the same here.
I used to practice doing 6 lengths of the width until I felt brave enough to go and do the entire 2 haha
peeiayz@reddit (OP)
It was defo 1 of those achievements you strive to get. Being able to go alone with your friends was the main goal lol
trevorpogo@reddit
I've not heard of this but also am confused - if you aren't allowed in the deep end, how are you going to swim a length of the pool in the first place?
Hungry-Artichoke-232@reddit
The two lengths are supervised. After that youโre on your own.
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