[Optics] Aimpoint COA 3.5 MOA - $617 + Free S/H
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I’ll bite when this is $300-350
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Low_Individual7789@reddit
Can someone explain to me why a red dot this expensive is worth buying? Even if I had the money I can’t wrap my head around buying something like this.
TaskForceD00mer@reddit
It's really not worth it stand alone.
Also IMO wait for the AEMS Micro if this is the form factor you are after, overall sizes and form factor are comparable.
AEMS Micro comes with an RMSC/507K plate and mounts to it like a mini 509/ACRO/MPS
youy23@reddit
It’s kinda like when the aimpoint Comp M4 first took off. It’s the start of mass production ruggedized pistol optics that just fucking work.
The ACROs are pieces of shit and break all the time. The holosun EPS mostly work reliably and well but they’re a chinese company.
KaneIntent@reddit
Have COAs really been out long enough to own that kind of reputation yet?
Echo_Raptor@reddit
No, and there’s not enough tests out there because it’s been limited to Glocks until recently and an oddball cut you can’t get easily. The acro was much easier to just get and install
youy23@reddit
I would agree that it’s premature to call it solid.
Seems like it’s better than the acro at the least. The reports of the acros shitting out started pretty much immediately on release.
RonaldWRailgun@reddit
Absolutely not, paid 680 for my g43x coa and I think that's literally the best carry setup you can have at a reasonable price. I love it. Paying this much for a red dot that is made to be cheaper than a P2 and/or rcr Is giving in to scalpers.
That said, great little dot.
Echo_Raptor@reddit
It’s not though, that’s just what they cost. It’s just a massively better deal to buy one as a package
DowntownAnnual6685@reddit
Where’d you find one for $680?
RonaldWRailgun@reddit
GSSF coupon right before they were "discounted" or whatever, when no one apparently gave a shit about them, and to me it looked like such a no brainer.
GodGunCountry@reddit
How you get the price for 680
Low_Individual7789@reddit
I’m coming to the realization that you buy this with the gun in order to avoid paying that kind of money for the optic alone.
-TheOldPrince-@reddit
Its not. Buy it with a gun
Low_Individual7789@reddit
I thought the Glock COAs were all stopped due to military contracts taking priority?
-TheOldPrince-@reddit
I just held a couple this morning. Local gun stores should have plenty of
Low_Individual7789@reddit
Good to know
andrewmaster0@reddit
Also the Echelons are available everywhere now with them for ~850 which is awesome. Can find them online too, definitely worth buying with the gun/dot combo
BaronMaupertuis@reddit
The problem is that you're stuck with a Springfield pistol.
Echo_Raptor@reddit
HS Produkt
Ironically the best stuff with the Springfield rollmark is made by HS.
Aware_Donkey_6074@reddit
Sounds like you never shot one
BaronMaupertuis@reddit
From the company that brought you the XD isn't really a selling point lol
Aware_Donkey_6074@reddit
🤡
gunzaroony@reddit
They’re coming back, I’ve seen a few in stock lately
ShepardRTC@reddit
Get the Vector Optics version for like 180. It’s been great for me, and the window is bigger lol
Aware_Donkey_6074@reddit
What’s the name of it? Their continental 1-10x28 is awesome for the money. Got mine for $600 and it is comparable to 1k optics.
All__fun@reddit
Are you talking about the SCRD-75 ?
ShepardRTC@reddit
Yes
Kukitan@reddit
I actually would second that. I'm sure it's not as "nice" as this guy, but it sure is for what it goes for. I like mine too.
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D R I P 💦
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
It fits the worst designed optic mount though!
gunplumber700@reddit
How is this a deal when the whole gun combo is 850-900?
BenDover42@reddit
And don’t forget the pricey optic cut. Another $150-200. You’re way better off getting the echelon deal that goes around some for $900 and I say that as a rabid Glock fanboy
gunplumber700@reddit
Ive been a Glock guy for a long time, but many of the reasons for being a fanboy are slowly disappearing.
I love that they made models in pretty much any configuration you want. Like 9mm? There’s 19, 17, 34, 43, 43x, etc. like 45? There’s 21, 30, 41, etc. You can get a long slide, short slide, compact, whatever you want. Now long slides seem to be gone.
Their original MOS was great because you’re not locked into one footprint when an optic inevitably breaks. If the new optic cut works, great. But we’ll see.
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Fair points on the models. I personally think some of them will be brought back to the V line just like it took them a while to bring the 34 and 26 to the Gen 5. They just discontinued imo to bring out the Vs and 6 and keep up with demand for LEOs and civilian market.
I’ll disagree with the OG MOS. It’s a dogshit way of mounting optics and the exact same thing will be achieved with the Gen 6 optic mounting with plates except you can mount most except the ACRO style without buying a plate out of the box. So it will be just as modular but hopefully better. I hate the old school MOS and one of the reason I only own two out of my 13 Glocks.
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You can disagree all you want, but who else had a factory optic option before that…? Nobody.
A cut is as far from modular as possible…
People that shit on mos are band wagoners that blindly regurgitate what they read online. What happens when your optic breaks and you’re locked into a footprint/ cut they no longer make optics for… you’re SOL.
Its comical companies will copy what Glock comes out with, make a minor change, call it “better”, and somehow people will call in innovating… copying Glock then running a smear campaign isn’t what I’d call innovative…
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I mean your point would have more merit if there were more than a couple of optics cut. I also agree I’d never get the A cut. But the Gen 6 can literally accept any optics the previous MOSs could so I’m not sure why you’re hung up on that. For several years the double stack MOS options only had an RMR plate anyways….
And not wanting to attach an optic and four screws to an aluminum plate doesn’t at all mean I’m a bandwagon person. I literally broke one before mounted exactly to spec. The plates are garbage Glock gives you even when they gave you more than one.
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I have no idea how you came to the conclusions you did... unless you're intentionally taking what I said out of context.
"I literally broke one before mounted exactly to spec." I don't believe that.
"I mean your point would have more merit if there were more than a couple of optics cut. I also agree I’d never get the A cut. But the Gen 6 can literally accept any optics the previous MOSs could so I’m not sure why you’re hung up on that. For several years the double stack MOS options only had an RMR plate anyways…."
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1s5lybo/gunscom_pulled_a_fast_one/
Literally from 2 days ago dude... guy has an optic cut for an out of production optic that broke...
I don't think you understand the difference between MOS and an optic cut for specific optics...
"No one is killing their guns for doctor or any weird stuff like that so your point makes no sense at all….."
What on earth is this even supposed to mean...?
"For several years the double stack MOS options only had an RMR plate anyways…."
Unless you're being intentionally misleading by referencing glock going from 4 plates included to 1... because people complained...
BenDover42@reddit
I’m saying there is no difference between the MOS or Gen 6 optic mounting in WHAT you can mount. It’s better quality. And I did break it after shooting maybe 1500 rounds bent properly torqued. It’s very common and easy to find them bent or broken.
The actual Glock MOS plates do nothing for front to back stress on the fasteners and they snap. If the cheaply made aluminum plates don’t first. If you mount an optic and never shoot a gun it’s a great system. But if yo want to shoot it you’re way better off buying an aftermarket plate.
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“I’m saying there is no difference between the MOS or Gen 6 optic mounting in WHAT you can mount. It’s better quality”.
Yea, going from metal plates to plastic is a real upgrade when you’re complaining about recoil effecting mounting.
“The actual Glock MOS plates do nothing for front to back stress on the fasteners and they snap. If the cheaply made aluminum plates don’t first. If you mount an optic and never shoot a gun it’s a great system. But if yo want to shoot it you’re way better off buying an aftermarket plate.”
Yea I wonder why the recoil bosses are called recoil bosses. As for screws… yes, screws break… even on non mos systems.
If the standard is anecdotal evidence I have 30,000 rounds through a 41 with, surprise surprise, no problems with the stock plate and screws. Another 5k through a 10mm with the factory system and no problems.
You can spread the bandwagon lore like it’s representative of all mos mounts all you want, but it does not make it flawed, regardless of the amount of time you say it.
Do people go on and on about how bad traditional scope rings are because those screws can come loose? Or break? No, and it’s absurd to say so.
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To address the Gen 6 vs MOS and metal and plastic. It’s literally a shim to prevent back and forth stress on the fasteners which they never did with MOS. It’s a plastic gun too by the way. Shadow systems and S&W uses them in the same way and they work fine. But I’d rather have a plastic spacer/shim than an aluminum plate that moves front to back on a pistol slide that does the same with no recoil bosses for the plate.
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By your logic; all plastic has the same material hardness and plasticity therefore plastic wrap is a suitable plastic for the task.
Also by the standard you’re using; movement with plastic plates (shim, whatever term you want to use) is acceptable, but movement with metal plates is unacceptable…
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I’m saying the plastic shims support the optic/plate from moving back and forth. Which strains the screws and will eventually break them. Especially considering Glocks slide under the plate is completely smooth and a Glock MOS plate has a ton of play. When you get or handle a Gen 6 and install an optic look at the difference in play.
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“I’m saying the plastic shims support the optic/plate from moving back and forth. Which strains the screws and will eventually break them. Especially considering Glocks slide under the plate is completely smooth and a Glock MOS plate has a ton of play. When you get or handle a Gen 6 and install an optic look at the difference in play. All of this just happens to be where the screwed constantly break on Glocks and causes failures.”
If they’re installed correctly there should be no movement… if the screws you’re using aren’t of sufficient quality; yea, they’re probably gonna break…
“And if the plastic shim/plate fails, you have an OG Glock MOS which you claim is great anyways. There’s a reason there is an entire industry on Glock MOS plates. Because theirs suck and the system would work way better without the play.“
By that logic there’s a whole industry that copied Glock because they’re so bad, right? If i had a shop that only sold plates, I’d probably talk mad shit about factory plates too… The industry is great at praying on people need/ desire to upgrade or accessorize their guns… Do 99/100 lifted trucks need to be lifted? There’s an entire industry built around that.
“There is literally movement on the Glock MOS plate because they don’t fit the entirety of the cut and there are no recoil lugs. The Gen 6 uses a shim to prevent the movement. That’s the difference and it’s a massive difference. It’s similar to what S&W has done for a long time and is a much better system.”
Again, different doesn’t mean better… regardless of how much salesmanship you buy into…
BenDover42@reddit
Well the Glock screws I used and installed and properly torqued with a torque wrench broke. So I guess I should have bought some actual high quality fasteners instead of using the ones provided and the instructions.
gunplumber700@reddit
Lmao so now the plates are bad because the screws are bad…
So now I know you’re intentionally ignoring anything that doesn’t fit your opinion. What part of ”I have 30k rounds of 45 with it and 5k with 10” don’t you understand…
How many professional users use MOS plates vs aftermarket plates…?
I guess if I was bad at shooting I’d blame my equipment too; and in the same fashion that a bad carpenter blames their tools…
“I actually don’t have a Gen 6 nor intend to buy one. I just picked up another Glock 26 Gen 5 as that’s my favorite generation. I did install an optic on one for my friend and that’s why I say it’s a superior set up out of the box. If for no other reason that you use two fasteners instead of four. But the main reason is when I put the optic on the slide before torquing the screws there was very little play unlike an OG MOS.”
Hahahahahaha you go on and on about gen6 and you don’t even have one… lmao
I’ll keep an eye out for the “muh buddy installed muh optic and it’s broke now” post.
BenDover42@reddit
You’re the one who brought up using high quality screws and I said I used the ones provided. And I haven’t blamed it for missing hits. It just sheered off like countless other people have had due to poor design.
And just because I don’t own the Gen 6 doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge the optics mounting system is much better. I don’t own the gun but I also acknowledge the texture is better as well but I’m sure you’ll say otherwise.
gunplumber700@reddit
Shooters that can’t install optics correctly always blame their tools and equipment…
Lmao you brought up screws and called them fasteners…
BenDover42@reddit
Which means the same thing?
gunplumber700@reddit
“You’re the one who brought up“
No that was you…
Echo_Raptor@reddit
They’re not. They’re going to drip every gen 5 model out slowly because they know the rabid fanboys buy each model like Pokemon. I love the gen 6, but Glock fanboys would buy a polymer turd if it had the Glock logo, lol
gunplumber700@reddit
Oh ok. Where are the gen 5/v 40/41’s? In the 8 years they were out they didn’t make one…
Where are the gen 6 long slides…?
If none of that makes sense to you feel free at reread my original comment…
Echo_Raptor@reddit
The V’s were a weird compliant thing and you know that.
I never said anything about the 40/41, I said long slides. The 34 came out and they brought the 17L back out. As for the gen 6, they’ve got 3 models out. The COAs will be coming at some point. Yeah, I do believe they’ll come out with a lot more gen 6 models. Most people can’t even find a gen 6 apparently (although I didn’t have any trouble).
gunplumber700@reddit
Maybe you should reread what I wrote… take a second to understand what I said… then delete your comment…
Either you don’t understand what I said… or you’re intentionally choosing to take it out of context…
Available-Run-2144@reddit
The original MOS system was not great! Then they changed to the new system on the Gen 6, that has polymer inserts that have aftermarket metal ones available already. The Ruger RXM has an arguably better system. I own a RXM and the 43x Coa. I sold my other 43x MOS to get me into the 43x COA. The major con to the COA is the cut but it's on my daily carry so I do not plan to change it. It's one of the most rugged red dots and mounting system available right now.( Supposedly). It should hold up great for a carry gun. Competition 100% would want an adaptive system but then again some would argue that one specific cut is better for competition
gunplumber700@reddit
MOS is still great… I will die on that hill.
People that don’t think so are bandwagoners. They completely ignore several things:
1) There was no real factory viable pistol optic mounting solution before the mos. Putting dots on pistols before that was a pita.
2) The M stands for modular… now that the industry has gone through many forms of pistol optics we’re starting to see (as I said years ago) people with issues from slides that are locked into one footprint AND optic because their discontinued optic is broken and no longer manufactured…
Modularity also allows for easily changing optics if/ as needs change. This is the biggest advantage of the system…
3) If it were that shitty everyone wouldn’t have copied it with a mild change to say it’s different and relied on the smear campaign to push their copy.
BenDover42@reddit
I agree the concept was good just not the design. S&W released some CORE series around the same time that used shims but actually fastened into the slide. It was far superior just a lot less popular platform at the time.
SupraRZ95@reddit
I literally agree with everything you said. The MOS system was the best for glocks because yes, you were not locked into 1 optic style. You could literally put every conceivable red dot you'd want on one.
JMCSD@reddit
I got the Echelon COA setup off GunBroker for $695 out the door, 720 after transfer. And I've seen them go for cheaper. I quite like the setup.
Echo_Raptor@reddit
That’s a smoking deal. I’m not a big echelon fan but for that price it’s a no brainer
Echo_Raptor@reddit
I don’t see what being a Glock fanboy has to do with that, lol. I like Glocks but anytime you can get the package it’s gonna be a way better deal considering you’ll all but get a free gun with a factory warranty compared to just the optic and a cut
KaneIntent@reddit
Yeah buying this is insane when you can pay like 250 extra dollars and get a whole echelon with it.
ConcernAutomatic3399@reddit
You have a link for it at that price? I've been seeing 1-1.3k
Hunter_Wang@reddit
We have the 43X for 885 OTD. You can just email us here general@ibexarmament.com
smegma_toast@reddit
Is the COA optic on the 43X the same one used on the 19 COA?
Eleven26_@reddit
Yes, COA is COA
caseymcbassist@reddit
emailed ya
ConcernAutomatic3399@reddit
Any 19 by chance?
Hunter_Wang@reddit
Might have some in this week. Shoot us a message and we’ll keep the feelers out.
tacticooltools@reddit
Gen 6 g19?
hootervisionllc@reddit
How about the 48?
CrankBot@reddit
Bro came with receipts 😎
ebolamonkey3@reddit
Best way to get a COA is to buy a Glock COA combo for about $850 and then sell the Glock.
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
You think someone is gonna buy a COA Glock, without the COA? LMFAO
Echo_Raptor@reddit
1000%, especially if you split it up. Throw the lower on gafs or tacswap and that complete upper with no optic on eBay and you’ll be shocked what you’d get out of it in the end
Slides sell for stupid amounts on eBay
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit
I’m sure there’s some kind of plate out there to cover up the slide cut.
Belezibub@reddit
Yeah its a slightly worst iron sited Glock (since you are forced to use the COA cut), still has good value.
ConcernAutomatic3399@reddit
Link to COA glock for $850?
CrankBot@reddit
how about $885?
ConcernAutomatic3399@reddit
Looking for a 19 but that's a great price!
ebolamonkey3@reddit
Someone posted a 43X COA for 850 here a few days ago, just do a search.
McAckbar@reddit (OP)
explain this sell gun concept
TexMedic91@reddit
No sell, only buy!
Different_Height_157@reddit
Think they mean keep it in the safe.
hitemlow@reddit
I can't imagine there would be a ton of demand for a Glock with an optic cut that only fits one optic... and is missing that optic.
Unless you could re-mill it to like Agency Optics System or something?
Foto_synthesis@reddit
Good luck selling a COA cut glock without a COA
jscores555@reddit
https://imgur.com/a/inCrHLS
campereg@reddit
Have a link for one?
Automatic_Hat7833@reddit
Sell gun? What mean sell.
Ok_Ganache_9081@reddit
How do you get a gun that’s milled for it without the optic combo?
StraightCashHomey314@reddit
Wager offers this cut and I think Glockstore. You’d have much better luck for a quick turnaround with Wager. I also “heard” that Glock will be offering A-Cut Gen 6 pistols without the optic but that could be total bs.
swohio@reddit
I was going to respond send your slide in for milling but then remembered most things come already come with an optics cut now, so I don't know. That's a good question.
Ok_Ganache_9081@reddit
Yeah it’s a sort of specialized cut. Most of the currents guns with require a new rear iron sight that locks the COA down. Our typical optic cut folks likely aren’t going to be doing this. So the question then becomes what guns come milled ready for it from factoryv
Belezibub@reddit
Echelon and Glock but those are specifically for being sold with the COA and it would be a better deal if you wanted to get a pistol setup for COA and COA.
Available-Run-2144@reddit
I believe cz P10C is coming out soon with the COA also. Not sure of the price. The optic sells for more than the gun!
SAAPenguin@reddit
At least as of now, what's the point of getting just a coa optic at any price? It's not like there are guns with just a cut and no coa readily available.
KaneIntent@reddit
There is literally no point.
DontTellUrMom@reddit
Glock has the exclusivity of the a-cut for year. Once more manufacturers get to add it to their pistol lines it will be worth owning a COA, but unless you’re a Glock fan it’s kind of a waste of
McAckbar@reddit (OP)
Code: MRRECCE brought me out to $574 shipped.
californiagunguy@reddit
Don’t know why this is the bottom of the comments on my feed. Commenting for boost.
wlogan0402@reddit
Guys this or two CZ P10Cs?
Extra_Handle_3291@reddit
What difference between this and a Acro p2 tho?
lll-skipper@reddit
Mainly lower deck height and battery tray instead of protruding out the side
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