Volkswagen boss: “proper door handles and buttons are a non-negotiable for me”
Posted by Anchor_Aways@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 149 comments
Posted by Anchor_Aways@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 149 comments
__adlerholmes@reddit
"but im ok to negotiate on more shitty plastic interiors to save costs on our Audis"
strongmanass@reddit
VW brand, not VW Group. The CEOs of VW brand, Audi brand, and VW Group are three different people.
(But the CEO of Audi brand is also the CEO of Audi Group, which is a sub-group of VW Group.)
GimpsterMcgee@reddit
I just don’t fucking understand that organizational chart
strongmanass@reddit
I'll leave the web of Porsche AG -> VAG -> Porsche SE alone.
But in terms of the car brands, there's a CEO for the whole group - Oliver Blume. Then because the group is so large and is comprised of the most budget brands to the most expensive, they're further stratified into mini-groups:
Core: these are the budget brands. VW, Seat, Skoda, Cupra, and VW Commercial. Led by the VW CEO
Progressive (or Audi Group): premium and luxury. Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, Ducati. Led by the Audi CEO
Porsche. I'm not sure why Porsche is off by itself, but I'd guess it has something to do with them having market shares independent of the group - i.e. you can buy shares of Porsche brand but not of Lamborghini
Karsdegrote@reddit
Then they have traton, which does big commercial stuff under names like MAN, scania, international and VW (apparantly VW makes trucks and busses in brazil??)
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
VW has looked the success of Ferrari IPO from Fiat, so they want to follow that with Porsche.
gosukhaos@reddit
To make it slightly more complicated, Ducati is not directly under the Audi Group but under Lamborghini
Euphoriam5@reddit
You're legit the first Redditor to use that
CatProgrammer@reddit
Org chart?
Euphoriam5@reddit
Yep
Nefilim314@reddit
Porsche SE ownes VAG which owns Porsche AG, simple.
eim1213@reddit
VAG is quite the automotive acronym
B00marangTrotter@reddit
Aaaaah it's a profit deal! Wow, that really takes the pressure off.
Okay folk step right up and win some crap!
🎩
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
VAG isn’t really like GM which only come with one CEO, and brands aren’t really independent.
fantaribo@reddit
Pretty easy.
There's VW Group that holds all the brands of the group, then inside of it there's VW brand, Audi brand, Skoda and so forth.
Think of it as Stellantis and all the brands they have.
lael8u@reddit
Audi owns Bentley, Lamborghini, Ducati. VW owns Audi & Porsche.
DL72-Alpha@reddit
The first org chart that's an official circle-jerk.
RachelDawesRP@reddit
God... I had an Audi for a rental for a week and it was SO SHITTY. Crappy tech, no buttons, tone-deaf interior. The engine light went on and I returned it and swapped it for a Hyundai that was AMAZING by comparison. All the tech, well-done features, thoughtful placement, buttons. WTF has happened to Audi?
Objective_Mortgage85@reddit
I mean Audi has problems and all that sure but which Audi did you have that was so shitty that a Hyundai was amazing in comparison???
RachelDawesRP@reddit
A sedan, I don’t remember if it was A3 or A5, and it was pretty new, less than 20k miles. I was stunned by how bad the ride was, just super hard and all the bumps were amplified.
The Hyundai was a new Tucson. It wasn’t fancy, but the tech was better, the interior was well-planned, and the ride was great compared to the Audi.
jianh1989@reddit
“And increase price so i get my bonuses”
Aunvilgod@reddit
There are some extemely good "plastic" materials.
footpole@reddit
He’s the boss of the VW brand so while he may or may not be ok with it the fault lies with Audi leadership.
elite_coder_8099@reddit
seems like a weird thing to prioritize over interior quality
aka_mank@reddit
Honestly I’d make the buttons for shittier plastics trade all day.
They’re a company that needs to maintain margins (save the capitalism debate for later) but the best we can hope for is these companies make the right compromises not zero compromises.
TheManFromFairwinds@reddit
Yeah i was also thinking "sounds fine to me"
Also the mega minimalistic Tesla interiors feel cheap AF. Buttons give it a more premium feel.
crazystein03@reddit
You need to blame Oliver Blume for that…
Outside_Wave_813@reddit
Wow
Suspicious_Place1270@reddit
thank god
CoRifleman@reddit
We had a VW as rental. Under the infotainment screen is a row of nontactile buttons behind a strip of plastic. They're labeled in white, and you can see them fine in daytime. Imagine my surprise when I look down at night and I couldn't see anything at all. That's right... buttons that are required for HVAC operation are unlit in 2026.
Phiggle@reddit
Had the same problem with a rental here in Germany. As a designer I couldn't understand how that got past so many people...
CoRifleman@reddit
My reaction was the same - how did no one catch this!?
Weak-Specific-6599@reddit
But also releasing the 2027 Atlas with no buttons.
Uptons_BJs@reddit
It’s funny how many automakers fall down the capacitive touch rabbit hole and fail.
As I pointed out when they released the current gen interiors - if their product research people looked at what happened with Cadillac CUE, they would have easily realized this! I’d cut Cadillac some slack since they were first, but it’s embarrassing how many others followed
szatrob@reddit
VW and Ford are trying the paywall feature subscription model that had BMW backtracking, because they think they'll suddenly do it better.
It seems to be an industry problem that they think unpopular and unwanted changes will just eventually be wanted.
cilantno@reddit
Which features? I hadn’t heard this
doug_Or@reddit
VW has been offering subscription HP upgrade on the id3
cilantno@reddit
Huh, I had no idea. Silly stuff :/
linknewtab@reddit
I don't get why people are so upset about that. You made a choice when buying the car, you specifically bought the car with 150 horsepower instead of the more expensive one with 200 hp. Nobody forced you to go for the cheaper one, you decided the additional power wasn't worth the money.
Now all VW does is giving you the option to upgrade it after you purchased it. Why is that a bad thing and why would not giving you that option be a better thing?
HighHokie@reddit
I don’t have any issue with providing a download option for more power. What I can’t behind is doing so via a subscription method. There is nothing to maintain here. It should be a one time purchase. The subscription model is just trying to force an ongoing revenue stream.
At the very least offer the option to outright purchase in addition to a subscription option.
To me subscriptions are for things with on going costs, like remote connectivity, or features that continuously improve and develop, like ADAS on some brands.
szatrob@reddit
This level of sycophancy for an automaker that has been blundering through for the past two decades is truly a chefs kiss.
Imagine being balls deep in the VW kool-aid that you advocate this.
Let’s break down your logic here:
Its basically a mafia style protection racket.
Geofferz@reddit
Except that it IS an optional purchase. You don't have to buy that car.
kopiernudelfresser@reddit
You already bought the car, but its functioning is artificially limited.
Often engines are offered in several different states of tune, like a 90hp, 110 hp and 130 hp version of the same engine. However, each of them has its own type approval and likely some hardware differences like brakes, different tyre ratings etc. justifying some price differences.
With this ID3, as well as a few other notable offenders, that is not the case: by necessity the car already has the hardware and type approval, and you've already got the high-speed tyres. You've bought and paid for all of the mechanical bits, but is use is locked away behind the touchscreen.
szatrob@reddit
Ford is thinking of making the ability to open your frunk on the Mach-E a subscription thing.
s1ravarice@reddit
Source?
szatrob@reddit
Its way too hard to google
Idgaf to google, when I can just ask someone to do it for me.
s1ravarice@reddit
Do you not know the difference between an option and a subscription?
szatrob@reddit
Rich coming from someone who can't even be bothered to google the information.
doug_Or@reddit
Just admit you're wrong, man
markeydarkey2@reddit
Factory options for different physical hardware aren't subscriptions.
Pseudonym_741@reddit
I am not paying a subscription to open a door, but I will gladly pay for a crowbar.
B00marangTrotter@reddit
Frunk them!
Oh_ffs_seriously@reddit
https://www.volkswagen.com.mt/en/connectivity/upgrades-overview/upgrades-id.html
Upgraded air conditioning, mood lighting, matrix headlights, steering wheel and seat heating, a bunch of driving assists, inductive charging.
julienjj@reddit
BMW backtracked nothing.
Adaptive suspensions in a software unlock on newer cars.
Dredgeon@reddit
You can abolsolutely get less discerning customers to accept things like that for evidence you can look at the entire global economy. Particularly fast fashion.
aprtur@reddit
If I had to guess, it's probably a function of chasing market tends combined with sunk cost fallacy.
linknewtab@reddit
It was a combination of making the interior look more modern and clean and saving costs by using touch interfaces instead of buttons. 2 in 1, that's like the holy grail for the industry. Of course they went for it.
strongmanass@reddit
People don't understand how long it takes to change things at organizations that large. Just going from identifying a problem to the first meeting with leadership can take several weeks. Then add manufacturing to that.
It's like people who comment on car crash videos in slow motion and say the driver had plenty of time to react.
aprtur@reddit
lol....that's a surprisingly good analogy. I think it's the fact that everyone is conditioned to want things instantly nowadays. Until you've worked in the auto industry and understand how slow it works, and the reasons for that, I think those instant gratification factors make it incredibly difficult for manufacturers to be successful. That's part of why I lament brands chasing trends or "focus groups" too intently to where they lose their brand ethos - there needs to be some level within reason of "build it and they will come" in how brands execute a market strategy, so that they don't all bleed together. Hopefully we're realizing that coming to reality now.
szatrob@reddit
Institutional inertia plays a big role too. Large legacy automakers keep failing to make changes that make sense, because the bureaucracy that overloads a company like GM and Ford, makes making smart changes harder.
The cost fallacy furthers that, by pushing through models that should have been scrapped.
Then you have the whole hardware vs software issue. Where legacy automakers have treated software largely as an afterthought.
Then you have the whole problem of being stuck in a logistical nightmare, when you have to fix dumb decisions like climate control being behind three levels of menu on a touchscreen or dumb ass haptic controls on a steering wheel.
But those decisions are further made more difficult because most legacy automakers don't actually manufacture most parts, they assemble them. So a bad decision that may have saved millions is now costly because you're stuck in a contract that developed the bad decision to begin with.
Muttonboat@reddit
Like it or not - its cheaper
Ill get crucified a bit, but its partial our fault too. We want everything and the kitchen sink in our cars an arent willing to comprimise
We shouldn't be surprised if automakers skirt corners to meet demand.
borkelhavus@reddit
Speak for yourself, don’t be lumping me into that “we”
Muttonboat@reddit
that's cool if you're not in that group, but look at any r/cars thread and you'll see peeps asking for the moon for under 30k
somethings gotta give
borkelhavus@reddit
I vote for giving up all the bloated features. Give me a powerful driving car, stick shift, doesn’t look dumb as hell, reliable drivetrain, under 30k.
I don’t need infotainment system, lane assist, launch control, “sport mode”, etc.
Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit
Assuming you want a 250hp+ N/A V6 with a half decent suspension/brakes/chassis, the support for that alone means this car is gonna cost close to 30k. That's more powerful than a Kia K4 and yet I assume you want this thing to be lighter and feel sportier and have somewhat decent internal room despite having a much bigger engine than that car's 1.6T.
Some of that is a legislative requirement, and if you've ever seen the cost of a CarPlay tablet you'll know just how little infotainment costs. The price gap between ipad on your dashboard and double DIN in your dashboard is a few hundred at most.
borkelhavus@reddit
I'll just say that's an awful lot of assumptions on the specifics of what I want. Definitely doesn't need to be N/A, or V6, or lighter and sportier than a Kia K4. Doesn't even need to be 250+ HP, but it should be close to that range.
I'm very happy with the way my Jetta GLI drives, but it cost easily $5000 more than it should.
I'm curious what are the legislative requirements behind those options I listed? I'm not trying to argue, I'm just legitimately not aware of laws about those things and I would be pretty surprised because I view those as distinctly superfluous 'luxury' add-ons.
Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit
To be fair, the latest revision EA888 is reliable by the standards of a turbo engine, but it's still a VW product being sold outside of Europe.
I'm in Australia so you're getting our regs but:
a reversing camera is required (you can put this in the mirror if you want, but it's still weight and cost)
lane keeping is a legal requirement (another camera)
drowsy driving detector is mandated in the EU, which means we get them here. This is at least an extra camera pointing at the driver
So you're at minimum looking at 3 cameras and probably some sensors in the steering wheel as well. A lot of modern car weight is also in making the car bigger to keep the same internal space, because to meet crash standards you need crumple zones and airbags.
While it's not for safety, because manufacturers ~~want to sell your biometric data~~ care so so much about your driving experience, they need to shove a bunch of computers in the car anyway, in order to ~~send data on you to the cloud~~ ~~not have to pay a dealer to do software updates because they can't make a good product first time~~ deliver the enhancements of a Software Defined Vehicle experience. At least in theory, all this SHOULD make your car cheaper, and if you are doing all that and you have a bunch of legally mandated cameras, you may as well put in some kind of user interface.
hidazfx@reddit
I love that my Colorado has real buttons for the climate control, auto start stop and lane correction. I wish it had a regular headlight switch too, though.
mdp300@reddit
I used to drive a Cadillac ATS, and yeah, CUE was easily the weakest part of it. The stereo/climate controls were all on a capacitive touch panel that was shared between the ATS, CTS, and XTS. And it was a pain to use, it was just this smooth piano black panel that got easily smudged, and it felt like the actual touch sensors weren't directly beneath the markings.
Now I have an Audi with actual buttons for climate. I sat in an SQ6 last year and the near total lack of actual buttons really turned me off. My next car will likely be electric and I'm leaning towards either a Lyriq or BMW.
Several-Eggplant4460@reddit
I have bad news for you, BMW is leaning no buttons as well.
I deliberately bought a used last-gen X3 because I didn't like the styling of the new one, didn't like the drop in interior quality, but most of all I hated the lack of buttons.
mdp300@reddit
Lyriq V it is then!
Several-Eggplant4460@reddit
Stellantis reliability though 🤣🤣
I did a bunch of research and found no good options. All the Germans have gone buttonless, most domestic brands have reliability issues, I found Lexus cars too boring (I like spirited driving). That's why I ended up with a last-gen 2023 used X3.
If you want comfort (and buttons) and don't like spirited driving, Lexus might be your best bet imo
mdp300@reddit
I do like spirited driving though. I almost really like the new Audi EVs, but the interiors suck.
cubs223425@reddit
When I told my sister I didn't like this stuff, she said I was wrong and car screens were the future. They're a total non-starter for me, and one of many reasons I'm completely turned off by Audi.
Screens have been the number one reason I've taken cars off the list for what I buy next. They're especially bad when you have the upright combo screen of gauge cluster+infotainment that shows no effort by the manufacturer to integrate the thing into the interior/dash. It's my biggest gripe with new BMWs, Cadillac's sedan interior refresh, and the new Mustang. I hate it, and there's no forgiving the choice when I'm being asked to pay what sometimes eclipses $70K.
Dmoan@reddit
Capacitive touch buttons are actually cheaper than actual buttons and are easily programmable & reusable across various models.
Perunakeisari_69@reddit
No shit, thats why they use them. But they are really bad to use compared to actual buttons to actually use
ElegantBiscuit@reddit
The problem is that they don't have to be. Apple has capacitive touch trackpads that you would think were real mechanical ones if you never knew, but of course they're apple. However force sensitive touch pads that don't trigger on a graze are absolutely possible, haptic feedback can be made to feel real, while still allowing features like scrolling. It's just that automakers like to scrape the bottom of the barrel on how little a supplier is willing to sell to them for, despite most of them making billions in profit every year and having tens of billions in cash on hand.
craiggers14@reddit
I'm never trying to use my Macbook trackpad with gloves on because it's cold, or while piloting a 4000lb vehicle at 65mph in proximity to 5 other 4000lb vehicles also moving at 65 mph.
That's why touch capacitive buttons should be illegal in vehicles. They REQUIRE your attention to be removed from driving and placed on actually striking the button properly, vs doing it without attention and using muscle memory.
Crap_OnTheCob@reddit
Which is great for the manufacturer, but sucks for the end user.
FourEyesAndThighs@reddit
Bro, you drive a 10 year old tarted up CR-V. Stay in your lane.
Dmoan@reddit
Lmao you know I haven’t updated that since I joined Reddit
mastawyrm@reddit
Yeah, inferior choices being cheaper is pretty normal across most of life
bippos@reddit
It’s not a hole it’s literally cheaper to just make everything touch than draw up all the electrical stuff
Common_Turnover9226@reddit
Majority of customers like it though. Anyone I know who owns a car just as transport, as a gadget, as tech etc. I've asked and they all like the large screens and digital UI. It's modern and futuristic for them, gives more options, customization and syncs with their phones, which are already intuitive to use for most people. This is the majority of car customers, especially for a brand like VW.
Car journalism is a loud voice for new model releases, which is filled with petrolheads and where the digital tech complaints mainly come from. What I think is happening now the 99% of consumers love their big screens, but the 1% of petrolheads, which includes a lot of the journalism and reviews hates it. Brands are now having to redesign with a mix of both just to appease that 1% voice, even though they don't want to.
Domyyy@reddit
The touchscreen isn’t going anywhere, a lot of outlets are purposefully misquoting what he said.
What’s leaving (and that’s a good thing) are those capacitive touch buttons (steering wheel, below the main screen for volume etc.) because they offer absolutely no benefit for anyone. It’s just buttons but worse.
Actual touchscreens in a car have severe benefits and not a single manufacturer is going to cat that center touch screen any time soon.
coolaznkenny@reddit
It's all about the $$
Drazlash@reddit
Golf R...?
mrand01@reddit
Yep. I have a '24. The car is so fucking fun, but I've given up trying to change literally anything while I'm driving due to how unsafe it feels to be doing so lol
ChiefFlats@reddit
That’s horrible not being able to change anything because it’s buried in settings. You should at least be able to change climate control and volume
Mysterieo@reddit
The super annoying thing is, the settings don't have to be buried either. You can customize the screen pretty decently to point where you can have all the controls you need readily available without needing to dig through any sub menus for the most part. The big problem tho, VW didn't tell a single person this and left this new learning curve for the consumer to figure out which definitely added to the backlash.
Very frustrating as the MK8 R is probably the best driving golf there has been but due to VWs ineptitude, a lot of people, at least in the internet space, seem to only know it for the infotainment issues.
mrand01@reddit
Volume is easy since it's on the steering wheel. Climate is precarious due to touchscreen nonsense :-/
runway31@reddit
Make a stick mk9 with real buttons and ill buy it
linknewtab@reddit
Mk9 will be electric only.
runway31@reddit
Confirmed?
linknewtab@reddit
Yes. A while ago: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mk9-vw-golf-go-ev-only-2028-brands-first-ssp-model
However I wouldn't be surprised if they will do a second, substantial facelift for the Golf 8 at the same time (so probably 2029) and sell it in parallel with the electric Golf 9 for a few more years.
runway31@reddit
Well shiid. I dont care for the mk8. Maybe ill try to find a mk6 R
viperfan7@reddit
Why not mk7?
Mad4it2@reddit
That's old news from 2023.
It seems there will be a variety of powertrains, its not electric only.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/359219/new-mk9-vw-golf-and-id-golf-twins-keep-hybrid-and-ev-options-open-buyers
Simon_787@reddit
That's an older car, it doesn't have the new interiors yet.
The ID Polo and ID Cross do.
aprtur@reddit
He's only been in the role 3 years, so the refresh for Mk8 moving away from capacitive controls is the most he could have been involved with so far. Have to keep the usual ~6-7 year minimum vehicle development cycle in mind.
W_Silver2356@reddit
A phone is a phone. A car is a car. They are different. Inform the designers. Proceed accordingly from there. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, The Drivers
Dionegro__@reddit
No one believes you lol
Parcours97@reddit
Already happend. ID3 facelift got the normal buttons on the steering wheel again.
Ashamed-Simple-8303@reddit
Customer: subscriptions are a no go for me
bhop_monsterjam@reddit
been reading the same article at least once every 6 months for the past 5 years
Evilmoustachetwirler@reddit
Producing missile defence parts to support Israel is a non negotiable for me. Fuck VW, it's one thing after another with this mob.
Oxraid@reddit
Was it an answer as to why he doesn’t drive a VW?
Kunjunk@reddit
Interesting. Supporting genocide is a non-negotiable for me. Fuck VW.
bagNtagEm@reddit
Is this about the Holocaust or has something new happened since 1945?
Kunjunk@reddit
VW announced this week that they're considering switching manufacturing production to create missiles for Israel. Couldn't make it up.
stopg1b@reddit
They're probably upset that a "Zionist" was able to buy a car. It's hard to keep track of who they're mad at or why
Fentboy45@reddit
Well yea
cubs223425@reddit
Audi has a LOT of fixing to do to their interiors. If they do, maybe 'll considering them again, but they're the worst interiors I've had to experience in the recent past.
Falloutvictim@reddit
Actual door handles and push buttons are basically non-negotiables for me, I chose my current car, in part, because it has door handles and physical buttons while some of the competiton did not.
TripleShotPls@reddit
I mean, about damn time.
mortalcrawad66@reddit
"But fuck proper software!"
leTrull@reddit
Software is completely fine with the current models. It only took them 6+ years to get there.
Simon_787@reddit
6+? I've been wondering how car Infotainments are so bad since I was a little kid, lol.
They've been pretty good since the model that's now outgoing was introduced in the ID.7, which would be the ICAS3 GP (Software version 4+). Not perfect, but entirely usable with a big screen for android auto.
tejanaqkilica@reddit
How old are you? The infotainment system on my Golf Mk7 from 2013, is chef's kiss
The reason why it went downhill from that, it's because you can't improve perfection.
Simon_787@reddit
It was good for basic stuff, but it's not like it wasn't clunky or anything.
tejanaqkilica@reddit
Yeah, I hardly care about that. Instead of panning and zooming, I just type in the address. More importantly for me, is the fact that you can read it under any conditions, and it gets dim as well during the night, so you don't get blinded (though, thanks to LED headlights, that's a downside these days). Also, it just works, like all the time, so that's a bonus.
Simon_787@reddit
And how's that different to the current generation?
The screen is way smaller, much lower down and I believe they didn't support Carplay and AA as standard. Using Google maps and typing something on your phone is much easier, so I'm really not convinced that the older system is better.
strongmanass@reddit
He's not in charge of anything software-related. The clusterfuck that is Cariad has nothing to do with him.
TwelveTrains@reddit
Wish real buttons could be retrofitted into the Mk8 GTI... the last manual GTI.
FourEyesAndThighs@reddit
Liar.
muduke@reddit
"It's what Reddit wants to hear"
2008AudiA3@reddit
How about manuals
Simon_787@reddit
There are enough manuals, buy one of those.
Combustion engines are declining in new cars, and EVs are starting to creep into the lower price points where manuals were actually attractive.
Spicywolff@reddit
They don’t sell, they cost big $$ to certify for sale on the many governments they are lan on selling in, manuals are additional engineering and or licensing costs, consumers just don’t buy manuals in # big enough to make it worth it.
2008AudiA3@reddit
I know all that, but so what
MaraudingWalrus@reddit
What do you think giant multinational corporations are in the business of doing?
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Selling manual wagons in brown to the 10 people that want one?
MaraudingWalrus@reddit
Only if they come CPO and predepreciated by 42% from the factory.
2008AudiA3@reddit
Fucking over the consumers?
Saskatchewon@reddit
Not to mention that automatics/CVTs are largely better for emissions nowadays too.
It's sad to see the manual transmission disappearing from most consumer cars, but it really doesn't make financial sense for manufacturers to continue to offer them at this point.
Spicywolff@reddit
Oh absolutely today’s modern lockup automatics and CBT are better at fuel and they play really well with safety systems.
Yep, I like the fun and engagement a manual car bring. But in many cases, I don’t think the consumer has a hole would go for it anymore. My Miata is stick shift and my previous one was automatic. Same generation and on my daily drive I missed the automatic. At the track I enjoy that manual.
bwoah_gimmethedrink@reddit
They would sell in Europe if they were still widely available. The real reason is cost cutting, especially since a company can profit more from getting rid of them than from removing buttons or dials.
Spicywolff@reddit
Manual cars sell when the equally option automatic is more expensive. But when the automatic is just the same MSRP if not less. And you’re getting better fuel efficiency.
I’m sure those European consumers will switch automatic.
cilantno@reddit
I could’ve sworn EU had a worse take rate for manual GTI/Rs when they were told in both NA and EU markets
Eraser92@reddit
People (non enthusiasts) in Europe bought manuals because they were cheaper than automatic. Now that’s not the case.
StrangeSmellz@reddit
Did you buy one manual GTI or R?
testthrowawayzz@reddit
Did he had a change of mind or were these "features" decided by his predecessor? (Not snark since I usually don't follow these management changes.)
Suck_My_Thick@reddit
Why does that interior look so ass?
Shmokesshweed@reddit
How brave.
AssistanceAble6401@reddit
This deserves way more hype
CobaltFermi@reddit
I mean, replacing physical buttons with touchscreens was bound to fail. But most carmakers did it anyway, probably trying to see what would stick as they cut down on costs. And when the customer voted with their wallet, VW comes out and portrays this as some kind of spiritual awakening where they pledge to design cars with "real buttons and real names, for cars you can understand immediately". It took them long enough to realize that there was nothing broken to begin with!
Miserable-Assistant3@reddit
Yes, buttons may be back but does he know what his designers did with the interior door handles in the new T-Roc and more models?
leTrull@reddit
I think they're ergonomic and work well. I still think they look worse and feel a bit cheap in the T-Roc.
Low-Umpire236@reddit
Then do it!