[Ammo] Speer Gold Dot 9mm +P 124gr JHP - 50rd - $29.99 (60cpr) - Free Ship for 2+ boxes
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Buy it while you can.. Shits going to get scarce again.
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Why? A couple thousand troops deploying should have literally zero affect on civilian ammo supply.
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A LGS by me that is typically a colossal ripoff on ammo had these in stock for $35 a box. I bought one box because I was skeptical of the price and wanted to test it in my CCW first before buying more. Even when I was checking out the cashier was shocked that the box was marked so low (for this particular store)
Was able to fire thru and was pretty impressed with the ammo. 2 days later went back to the LGS to stock up on it, yea $35 is not the best deal on this but for being local it was good enough. I show up and find out they marked these up to $75 a box.
Aerial_Burial_88@reddit
This is regularly price at recoil. Same with the 124gr +p HST
Junction91NW@reddit
Yup. I adore them just for having consistently good pricing on defensive ammo. Your LGS would charge this price for a box of 20
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"But you're here and now" I wish LGS weren't so behind the times with this... Not all but a vast majority of them are like that. Meanwhile we can order online and get it straight to our door for a fraction of the price
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I keep finding myself buying more of these because the free shipping carries over to the entire order. They have a good selection on so much stuff, so grabbing 2 boxes of HST with $100+ on other ammo starts to really make a difference if you were going to be buying HST anyhow.
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They go up and down a few dollars. Sometimes they are like $31.99 sometimes like $27.99
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Chat do we like 124 or 124 +p for the carry?
Eating_parrots@reddit
+P always. The extra recoil and flash is minimal and the increase in the likeliness and size of expansion is beneficial. Especially for the gold dot as it is more dependent on velocity for expansion than HSTs.
Randyd718@reddit
Should i replace my regular gold dot 115 with this stuff? I could use some more "nice" ammo for the bedside anyway
PossibleLettuce42@reddit
Gold Dot 115 really isn't ideal for defensive use and generally is marginal on the FBI protocols. Not junk by any means, just not the best you can do. For pretty much any non-copper loading 115 is too light.
Switching to Gold Dot or HST 124+P or 147 would be a good improvement. I have thousands upon thousands of GDHP and HST 124, 124+P, and 147 through a massive variety of guns (50-60 over the past 15 years) and I have had not a single failure from a Gold Dot or HST product. I trust them as much as anything mass produced can be trusted.
As a prosecutor for about 7 years, I also have worked multiple OIS and have seen GDHP and HST function anecdotally in 3 different calibers. They work, and very well.
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thanks for the detailed response, is this BIN price to stock up?
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Not BIN, but quite good and fair, and recoil is solid to buy from.
I’ve heard enough murmurs about prices going up that I grabbed 500 each gold dot 124 and HST 147 at about this price tonight.
Even if prices don’t go up, this is a very fair price. It doesn’t get much lower but by a buck or two sometimes.
In other words, but with confidence.
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Where did you buy?
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Top Gun Ammo. My most common sources are SGAmmo, Recoil, Top Gun, and Velocity. All solid. Using Ammoseek helps.
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Honestly the 115 grain is a good load. People like to carry heavier bullets because they think it performs better, which is sometimes true but the difference in weight between 115 and 124 is pretty small. Energy between the two is very similar and they expand to similar sizes with similar penetration. I wouldn't run out and buy the 124 if you have a bunch of 115 around.
Though I would buy the HST 124 +p instead. It expands larger and has a lower expansion threshold, meaning it will expand at lower velocities. That could make a difference through shorter barrels with barriers involved. All loads are plenty good but as an ammo nerd that's my preference.
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ill have to keep an eye out, it looks like this stuff went OOS for the 50 box
Ernie_McCracken88@reddit
check out lucky gunner gel tests, I would probably do 124+P in a duty size pistol/double stack pistol and non +p in a subcompact. Both have excellent expansion but the +P is a couple inches shorter pen and within FBI pen standards.
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I would do the complete opposite. +p to make up for shorter barrels velocity loss, and not +p for 4"-5" where they already reach adequate energy
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100% I do the same thing. My girlfriend carries a sub compact, and I carry full size. She carries +p because the bullet velocity in the shorter barrel means she needs a little more oomph to get the right expansion. I carry normal 124gr Gold Dot out of a 4.5" because it doesn't need the extra energy for expansion, so you mitigate over penetration beyond the intended target.
Ernie_McCracken88@reddit
I don't think that's what the gel tests suggests. You are assuming non +P is achieving median performance in a duty pistol, and then modifying the choice around that. Its a handgun cartridge scenario where the faster projectile of the same weight actually has lower penetration due to faster/more expansion.
+P has less penetration than non +P given a the M&P9c in lucky gunner tests - But still at the upper end of FBI penetration standards. To me that is preferable since 124gr NON +p exceeds FBI standards for penetration. And that's for cops with qualified immunity.
https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-124-grain-jhp-speer-gold-dot-20-rounds
lancerevo98@reddit
Not all barrels are +p rated though so be sure to confirm
MK12Mod0SuperSoaker@reddit
To add to that: if you're 9mm handgun is used by any NATO military, it's probably good to go for +P.
Jason1435@reddit
+p for anything shorter than 4"
GoNe2heLL@reddit
+P for ports and comps and good old 124 for the other guns
Junction91NW@reddit
Ditto. The extra gas helps with comps, hurts without. Although I prefer non-p nowadays just for the reduction in flash
mattbick2003@reddit
+p. Faster velocity is more expansion for hollows. Thats why some round drop the weight in favor of velocity.
Pepizaur@reddit
I wish speer made 147g +p gold dots. Only place I've seen it is specialty reloading shops and wilson manufacturing, but they've been out of stock for a while
North-Blacksmith-366@reddit
Same. That'd be my ammo of choice if they did, but I can't justify expensive boutique ammo version's that are +p. Otherwise I'll stick to 147 ranger T, HST or 124 +p Gold dot or even 124 +p critical duty.
T0adman78@reddit
Underwood makes it too.
Pepizaur@reddit
They use sierra bullets not speer : /
T0adman78@reddit
Gotcha
Fun_truckk@reddit
I intuit the heavier the projectile the harder it is to make peak pressure consistent. More inertia for expanding gas to overcome and start pushing the projectile.
TheMoves@reddit
147gr and I'm in
yeehawmija@reddit
Thank you 👍
Fun_truckk@reddit
That’s the good stuff, I’d be in if I didn’t just grab a bunch of +p 124gr HST
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