[Parts] LaRue Tactical MBT-2S Straight Bow - $134
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RegardedDipshit@reddit
Price keeps going up on these. They are nice, but are they worth the extra over a schmid trigger with a joebob screw and upgraded springs for $50 all in with the right deals? Idk, I feel like the LaRue brand name tax is gonna keep going up.
ImDukeCaboom@reddit
Agreed, I have several that are that exact setup, Schmid and Andersons, lower springs, Joe Bob screw. Took one if my lowers over to the LGS that has the GS trigger display, like 4 or 5 of them in a row you can try. I liked mine a lot better. They all seemed to have at least a little creep and wiggle, maybe because it's a public display but still.
Westwood_1@reddit
I think milspec AR triggers in general are already pretty good, so we're definitely chasing diminishing returns, but I do think these are a cut above the typical "This one trigger, plus that one spring, plus a little touch of the Dremel" stuff.
I think their issue will more likely be that they start to creep toward Geissele territory and then struggle to compete in that new price bracket.
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
I suspect Geissele prices will also continue to go up. I think it may be harder to find the low prices we had seen on Schmid trigger back 4 or so years ago. At one time a few years ago I recall one of the Geissele triggers would go on sale for as little as \~$100.
I did try lightly polishing my Mil-spec trigger and used a JP Enterprise Reduced Power Spring Kit but it still had a lot of creep. I may try to work on one of those triggers to remove the creep but I could make it unsafe and it may wear out faster unless I heat treat it when done. My main complaint with my four Mil-spec triggers is the amount of creep and how much the resistance varies as I pull through the creep. Three of those triggers were replaced with LaRue triggers back when they went on sale for about $85. One was replaced with a stainless steel Anderson trigger with a JP Enterprise Reduced Power Spring Kit. I bought some on sale MidwayUSA LPKs last year that include Schmid triggers but have not installed any Schmid triggers yet.
Psychological-Drive4@reddit
The JoeBob adj grip screw is what removes the creep
Westwood_1@reddit
Yeah, I think the days of cheap ____ are in the rearview mirror.
Agree with your thoughts about milspec triggers, too. But I primarily shoot pistols and every time I come to an AR, even a bone stock PSA build, I'm always blown away by the night and day difference between the "good" pistol triggers I've been shooting and how good the AR trigger is by comparison.
Champagne problems.
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
I removed my last AR15 Mil-spec trigger after a got a double fire with my Canik Rival. I used the AR15 before going to an IDPA practice session. I got use to the heavy pull and creep of the Mil-spec AR trigger and then I road the trigger too much at the IDPA practice session and had a 2nd round go off after my first round. The RO knew I did not intend too take that 2nd shot base on my verbal response. The muzzle was still point in the direction of targets so it was not a safety violation.
I just did not like getting used to a heavy trigger and then having to relearn a lighter trigger. My Rival trigger is stock. I did not change springs and other components like some do for competitive usage. I also do not care to shoot any pistols with heavy triggers. I recently shot a friend's older model Canik and his M&P 2.0. I did not care for the triggers in either of those after getting used to the Rival and MC9 triggers and my LaRue AR15 triggers and my Tikka T1x and CZ 600 triggers.
RegardedDipshit@reddit
Is there a reason you don't use joebob screws to remove the creep?
Trollygag@reddit
Idk if that latter concern is real. They started with competing with Geissele in Geissele's price bracket.
The only reason the MBT2S ever had any perception of being a "lesser" trigger was due to them making an ego driven marketing mistake of cheapening their brand by cutting prices.
They should have done what other brands do, like Geissele, Vortex, etc, and stick to their high prices, then let 3rd party retailers slash prices as "sales".
As it is, the closest Geissele trigger, the SSA-E X, is $70 more even on its best sale, and the G$ is a worse trigger by manufacture and performance.
More likely in my mind is that they will piss off their core now that the party is over because they didn't change anything about it to align with the price change. Tweak the spring, tweak the shoe shape a little, change its color, ANYTHING that costs little to nothing to do, calling it V2, and people wouldn't feel like they are being cheated for literally the same product... even though it has been revised over time.
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Trolly ya know I dig ya and appreciate all you have to say, and I mostly agree here. If LaRue updated the trigger shoe shape here, it'd go a long ways especially, 100%. And spot on with his pricing structure.
But, saying the closest G$ trigger is an SSA-E X, but it isn't as good performance? That's a reach my friend. Are you sure you don't mean the SSA-X? I have half a dozen MBT's at least, big fan of LaRue and not a fan of G$ on a personal level, but from a performance standpoint I own a couple different G$ as a 2gun competitor (gotta get the best of the best and in that case we can bring Hiperfire into the convo).
The SSA / SSA-X is pretty similar to the MBT, solid 2 stage designs, but still a good $30-40 more than this price generally on sale. LaRue is still a value, just not as much at this price. Performance wise though, the SD-3G is a better trigger, and again even higher price point. Again, not a G$ fan but having run these all a bit - the SSAE-X in terms of a competition trigger I can rip crazy splits on, and slow it down for those quick distance shots, the SD-3G is the "value" version of it but the SSAE-X is pretty much peak 2stage design. Going back to a MBT-2S, it's just not the trigger the SSAE-X is from a performance standpoint. Is the MBT-2S a great glass break for long range? Yes, little firm for my liking but I can always throw in a lighter spring, I run it in all my AR10 builds and my more DMR AR15 builds. But from a do-it-all, I'm hitting PCSL 2 gun / a rifle match / on a hybrid build for short to long range work, I just couldn't say the MBT-2S is on the same playing field as the SSAE-X. I get why people pay what they pay for that trigger. Respectfully disagree the MBT-2S is better, but yes LaRue is a better manufacture by ethos.
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LaRue seemed to raise a lot of their prices once they started selling at Primary Arms and other big online sellers. I assume they did not want to undercut these sellers. The sellers probably would not sell if LaRue undercut them.
I got in what was likely the last good sale on the triggers at LaRue when I got 3 for $80 or $85 each back around 2022 when the still had the cutout. My last order was from I think Optics Planet during BF 2024 sale period when they had them for about $85 with free shipping. I did not have a build to use these trigger in but I assumed the MSRP would continue to increase. This was after LaRue raised the MSRP to $115 earlier in the year. So one could still get the trigger for a good price after the increase in MSRP but one had to wait for a good sale from one of the resellers of the trigger. I had no idea that LaRue trigger would go OOS everywhere for about 3 months like they did recently. Did LaRue ever explain why there were OOS for so long? It was not due to a redesign for a 2.0 version.
At this point I have enough LaRue triggers that I will keep and I am likely to use Schmid triggers with reduced power spring kits when any rifles that I may give to close relatives. I got the Schmid triggers for a low price with a LPK from MidwayUSA when they had a very good sale last year. When LaRue was available for $85 to $95 it was hard for me to recommend some of the Schmid 2-stage triggers that were selling for about $70.
Westwood_1@reddit
All good points.
The unfortunate reality is that they ceded that niche to Geissele, though, and like you said, unless they change something to "improve" their already exceptional trigger, they'll struggle to move upmarket by price increases alone.
RegardedDipshit@reddit
Yeah, agreed. No doubt this is a good trigger, I'm just suggesting maybe it's not worth the price of 2-3 triggers that are 90% as good.
AwwChrist@reddit
Holy shit. Not worth the money anymore if this is the new normal.
Platanium@reddit
Crazy how these were perceived as worth ~$200 years ago before his grudge pricing hit
AwwChrist@reddit
I just don’t see it. I’ve shot these, many different Geissele triggers, and Schmidt. Geissele two-stage triggers are superior in every aspect of the mechanical feel. I’d much rather spend 30 bucks or so more for a Geissele SSA on sale.
Platanium@reddit
Definitely seems like a preference thing, the funniest thing to me is how it's been perceived based on prices over the years
Giant_117@reddit
Guarantee if they still cost the $240 they did back in the day everyone would be bending over for Mark and singing praises.. just like they did when the trigger was launched lol. I should have stocked up on both Larue and G triggers a few years ago when they were both cheap.
nicostatus@reddit
Definitely a preference thing. I prefer the larue big time over the geissele.
skygao@reddit
Super different feels imo.
I haven’t tried the whole Geissele line, mostly the SSA-X and SSA-X-E, but Geissele has an intentional rolling break that I love for a mix of fast and precision shooting where it doesn’t feel as much like a two stage when pulling the trigger fast but has a discernible wall when you want to go slow and precise.
Larue has that carrot break and short reset. Love it for precision, but feels jittery when shooting fast run and gun style stuff.
TheMoves@reddit
Yeah at these prices I'll just spend a little more for G$, I got an SSA-E for $149 last year
TheOtherKFC@reddit
That's the kicker, though, isn't it? You got it last year. Prices are up across the board and likely will never go back down thanks to the current... "administration." 🤷♂️
TheMoves@reddit
Alright but I can get one right now for like $10 more than that, I have multiple of both and I'd even still buy the SSA-E over the MBT-2S if the former was $180 and the latter was $135
TheOtherKFC@reddit
I haven't shot an SSA-E, but I agree. The price creep is real.
Engineering_Acq@reddit
Id rather get a geissele blemula
kenhk117@reddit
Now I don't feel bad about buying 6 of these years ago on Black Friday special.
abuttz@reddit
I just got one of these on notjustguns last week and it was like $89, this is not a good deal
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
The LaRue flat trigger was as little as $92 plus shipping after coupon code as posted 8 days ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1rwh28l/larue_mbt_now_in_stock_at_ar15discounts_flat/
bjchu92@reddit
They changed it where codes don't work on the trigger anymore. :( I tried getting the 12% but it stated it was an Excluded Item
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
Thank you for the information. I was surprised any coupon would work and suspected that it would eventually be disabled for some reason. Those that can wait may find one on sale sooner or later once LaRue actually fills the retail channel after several months with no deliveries of triggers.
bjchu92@reddit
Yeah, I went ahead and got one since it's the last thing holding up my build at this point
HeughJanus@reddit
take me back to the good ol days when mark didnt double all his prices to fund his divorce
skygao@reddit
I’ve still got the Armadillo Xmas keychain from a few years back when they were like $70 each if you ordered 5x.
Purple_Season_5136@reddit
I still have my og larue flat with the middle cutout
xenophonthethird@reddit
I have one in my precision 308. Wonder if they stopped making the cutout to save production costs.
Vic_the_Dick@reddit
Most likely, those cuts always seemed like unnecessary machine time to me.
TheBigFish2004@reddit
I ‘member the days of $85 skelly triggers, and a 3 for $250 deal or something direct from Larue. ‘Memberberries.
O_ThatGuy1776@reddit
115$ on AR15 Discounts
O_ThatGuy1776@reddit
I posted a restock on AR15 and got banned permanently.
PretendIndependent6@reddit
Weren’t these cheaper than this?
Sufficient-Ice-7993@reddit
I've been waiting for Primary Arms to have them on sale again for $89, but that ship may have sailed.
Oregonfan16@reddit
Unfortunately I doubt you will see them for that price again. They raised their prices to retailers.
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
$115 or less with shipping in the last week or two. Just search for prior recent posting.
das9004@reddit (OP)
Don’t forget that Scheels also price matches
Westwood_1@reddit
I remember stocking up on two or three within the last 18 months when they were sub-$100. That being said, lots has changed since then, including tariffs and further debasement of our currency. IDK anything about current market rates, just that they were cheaper in recent memory.
PretendIndependent6@reddit
Yeah same I bought 2 under $100 in about the same time period. Wild if this is a deal now. I am scared for everything else 😭
NeonSpaceGhost@reddit
These also just dropped again on AR15discounts and DirtyBird for $115+tax. DB has free shipping. Just fyi.
DUCK_FACE_JONES@reddit
gafshub people mad af
Jacobra1@reddit
Same here. Got one at AR15discounts for 115 minus 12percent March promo. Shipped right away and I already installed it yesterday. Couldn’t be happier with AR15discounts.com and Dirtybird over the last year. Just discovered JoeBob Outfitters last night at 300am and order shipped before noon today. All 3 have been great, and after joining GAFSHUB, I’m finally weening of Primary Arms. Wish me continued luck.
Dunkin_Deeznuts_00@reddit
Just get them for $85 on GAFSHub..
laterisingphxnict@reddit
Don’t regret the 4 I bought at $88 before the price went up in the new year.
Holding out to resale for $188 /s
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
I have three of the older LaRue triggers with the cutout that LaRue stopped making about 3 years ago. I wonder what premium they may be worth now. /s One is still new in box.
https://portersbasement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/eb5d30b1ef5c1b626c8143be916ddb41-475x475.jpeg
lombardi-bug@reddit
Paid $110 with shipping from Primary Arms a couple months ago
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