The GraveYard of Supercars
Posted by gregghia@reddit | Autos | View on Reddit | 159 comments
I think this article is fascinating about why there are so many abandoned supercars in Dubai. This was written 4 years ago but I'm just learning about it now. Wonder if anything has changed, or the problem just keeps compounding. Seems like a lucrative potential business model to solve this with the gov't of Dubai.
DemonsSouls1@reddit
"but Dubai is better than the west"
sirbart42@reddit
Dubai is a scary place
SuitableFault692@reddit
eu sunt in cautare de detaileri pentru masinile mele de munca si din ce am investigat pana acum , GLASS TUNING Brasov ar fi locu 1. Inca imi fac temele despre ei,dar ma iau dupa recenzii ca au vreo 900 si sunt de 20 d eani pe piata din ce imi zice termene. Am comparat preturile si cu altii si par top. Acu inca cercetez si caut o parere despre Glass tuning ,daca cineva si-a dus masina la ei si au fost multumit sa imi zica si mie. Vreau detailing, polish, si folii de protectie solara.
Volo_Kin@reddit
To be honest the idea of getting in such debt you can't repay and then be pardoned just because you'd declared bankruptcy is absolutely crazy to me.
big-daddy-baller@reddit
Yeah, all things considered, the consequences of bankruptcy are pretty low. It’s kind of wild.
286893@reddit
I mean you do nuclear bomb your credit reputation for a long long long time. The consequence (at least in the US) is anytime they run your credit, it's going to show
big-daddy-baller@reddit
For 7-10 years then it falls off. Some people declare bankruptcy multiple times.
LeadfootYT@reddit
10 years of life is a long time to burn on a “no one will sell you heating oil” arrangement
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
It isn’t. You’ll get credit card offers the first year you file for bankruptcy and can build your credit again. It’s much easier to repair your credit this way than to dig yourself out of a debt hole.
Spadeykins@reddit
Which is why they made it impossible to do for student loans. They did that in most millenial's lifetimes.
Danielle_is_the_hole@reddit
Happened before any millennials were born
Spadeykins@reddit
Before millenials were born it was difficult, in our lifetimes it became impossible.
Danielle_is_the_hole@reddit
I was pointing out that federally guaranteed student loans have been bankruptcy proof for decades. Since the 70’s
badazzcpa@reddit
There is a huge difference that you are glossing over. No bank on gods green earth is going to give 99.9999999999% of 18 year olds a 10’s to 100’s of thousands dollar loan with zero collateral. However, any 18 year old can decide to go to college and receive a subsidized loan and pretty much be guaranteed a loan to do it. The alternative is only the well off on up get to go to college.
SuspiciousToast27@reddit
Many other countries have tuition that is cheaper, with interest free loans, or just entirely free.
CharmGold2@reddit
Or it could be how it was 30 years ago when you could realistically work a job and pay for college. Sure it was a pain in the ass to balance college and a 20-30 hour work weeks but plenty of people did it.
sellursoul@reddit
My boss is turning 50 and he paid his way through community college with credit cards and declared bankruptcy afterward. What a deal lol
MentulaMagnus@reddit
Correct. Take credit card balance transfers checks and deposit into your bank account and pay off your various loan debt. Can’t pay credit card? Then declare bankruptcy.
anotherucfstudent@reddit
Student loan interest rate: 2-13% Credit card interest rate: 13-36%+
Last_Investigator_47@reddit
0% offers are everywhere...
aj_thenoob2@reddit
So then let the credit card companies handle that. It's a free market - if they want to take the risk they can.
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Bankruptcy is a Constitutional right. Just because you don’t like that people can doesn’t mean it can be illegal or even should be.
Danielle_is_the_hole@reddit
Nope. The constitution gives congress authority to make bankruptcy laws. They could have made the laws stricter.
aj_thenoob2@reddit
I'm arguing for it not against it.
LeadfootYT@reddit
Sure, but that entire process and everything associated with it sucks. Every person or story about someone who has filed for bankruptcy is the worst nightmare you could ever hear. I would not trade my life for credit card offers (especially because, as a person with credit cards, I already get those).
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Unfortunately you have to play the game if you want to have any opportunity to do anything in this country. I started a business and had a decent run before work dried up and I had to use credit cards to stay afloat while looking for a job. I submitted 250 applications before getting a job offer at an amount so low it didn’t even cover my bills. So shit went south fast.
To get loans, I need credit. To get a car, I’d need credit. I don’t even live lavishly by any stretch. All my stuff is old. So what am I going to do? This country’s system sucks because of the people who built it, not because of the people who are forced to participate.
tpeeeezy@reddit
getting to the point where you have to file for bankruptcy is not a symptom of the system lol
rogben19@reddit
Yes it is.
DakarCarGunGuy@reddit
Yeah but the interest rates are insane AND they ow you can't default in them via bankruptcy so the creditor's have an unbeatable upper hand.
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Pay off the balance every month and there ain't shit they can do. Just use it in lieu of cash and pay it off every month. Done.
I had great credit card habits so I'm not worried.
DakarCarGunGuy@reddit
If they got buried in credit the first time there's a good chance they'll do it again. Spending and budgeting is the issue most likely vs just making payments. Jumping back into using credit again probably shouldn't be the first step.
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Again, I had great credit card habits. I don’t live outside my means and live a pretty humble life. I don’t own expensive things nor do I want to keep up with the Jones’s. I’m good. But building a credit score requires opening a card, spending the money you do have, and paying the balance back in full.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
I know people who are perfectly fine with that, legally they own nothing. Everything is in their spouse's or kids' names and they buy stuff with cash.
LeadfootYT@reddit
That sounds awful.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
They live in nice houses, drive nice cars and go on vacation abroad multiple times per year. Sure, they won't get any retirement pension and can't take out a loan, but I don't think they care. Crime pays well.
Iamjimmym@reddit
It falls off but it takes years to recover to a decent credit score. And it's much much harder to get a job if unemployed when you have bad credit, especially during the years the bankruptcy is on your record - since most employers run comprehensive background checks including your credit, it's a bad move unless you're secure in your job. Which you likely aren't if you're declaring bankruptcy (and I dont mean you, specifically..)
captstinkybutt@reddit
And then they become President lol
MegaJackUniverse@reddit
A significant portion of your life, yes, 7-10 years
TheRealGunn@reddit
It does not fall off.
That's a very common misconception.
It will no longer impact your scores, and for simple transactions it will likely not impact you anymore, but it is always visible on your credit report for the rest of your life.
There are plenty of situations where credit decisions are strictly formulaic, and you can absolutely move on use your credit as normal after enough time has passed.
But for complex lending scenarios, lenders can always see you had a bankruptcy in the past, and it absolutely can affect their decision.
286893@reddit
How dare you have a nuanced and educated opinion in finance of all places.
donpablomiguel@reddit
Such as the current president for example.
big-daddy-baller@reddit
That’s a pretty good example of a parasite using bankruptcy to avoid more serious consequences
OpulentOwl@reddit
Parasite is the best possible word for him
Strayresearch@reddit
Yep, like the current president even.
steelandsoul@reddit
It can still be seen after the 7 year "drop off" it just isn't a factor in determining your score after that. You will however be asked about it and it will be considered as a part of your creditworthiness.
Danielle_is_the_hole@reddit
In the us you become president
pain-is-living@reddit
Not even.
You can do bankruptcy where you pay back some of your debt and get out of shit real quick.
Had a few buddies in college rack up insane debt, did the bankruptcy where they paid back some debt and within a couple years they were all back on their feet, bought homes, cars on credit, good credit score etc.
Racking up debt and pulling the fuck it pin can wreck your credit for 7 years, but there’s other options to pull the parachute and end up better than before in a few years time.
aron2295@reddit
It falls off, and people act like you will be shunned by society while it’s on your report, but they’re are ways to address the consequences while you are suffering them (Pay a larger deposit upfront to rent an apartment).
Iamjimmym@reddit
They are often denied employment opportunities as bad credit is something employers look at as well. Not many employers want an employee who's bad with money.
SaigaExpress@reddit
Ive had 2 friends do bankruptcy, you cant do shit for a year, after that its just a mark on your credit. You can get loans and stuff you’re just gonna have bad interest rates.
Its an absolute joke and these people learn nothing.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
they live a life of smoke and mirrors and no savings. i don't envy them
saadcee@reddit
Nuclear bomb? Nah, it's more like a kick in the balls. Hurts for a bit, then you forget it even happened.
CruxMason@reddit
If presidents can do it multiple times then it must be ok.
AhhYahBassa@reddit
You can even become the president after
Trickmaahtrick@reddit
Low how? Why should someone go to prison for it? The shit gets repossessed anyway and if you think having a history of declaring bankruptcy won’t fuck up your life, you are wrong. It isn’t wild at all, debtors prisons are barbaric.
big-daddy-baller@reddit
I’m not saying debtors prisons are the answer, idk what is. But no, you don’t lose everything in bankruptcy. Both chapter 7 and chapter 13 you keep most primary assets. You may lose second homes, second cars, etc. It nukes your credit for 7-10 years which is a low consequence considering you can get away with essentially stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Something like 16% of Americans file for bankruptcy and 60% of them do so for medical debt. I’m sure the number is greater these days as I first looked up that stat almost 5 years ago.
big-daddy-baller@reddit
Okay that’s cool but it’s not like I’m trying to argue that this is a huge issue. I’m simply saying that it’s a crazy concept that people take on massive amounts of debt, on their own free will, knowing they shouldn’t be doing it and that it’s wildly irresponsible, and they can file for bankruptcy and that debt gets wiped. They have protection laws that let them keep a lot of assets considering those circumstances.
This isn’t as crazy of a point of view as people are trying to make it out to be. I’m not saying people should go to prison or any crazy shit like that. I’m also not saying there aren’t legit uses for bankruptcy either.
CosmoAce@reddit
Yeah, I think u/stoned-autistic-dude had a good point which isn't really a counter argument to what you're saying, but I think it definitely highlights the root of the problem you're discussing. Further, it also shifts the burden of responsibility to the systems that encourage and allow people to be "wildly irresponsible".
It's similar to the whole gambling advertising and addicts. Who's to blame for the rise in gambling addiction? The systems that allow rampant gambling advertisements and incentives or people's lack of self-control? (Reducing it to self-control for brevity and correlation to your "free will" point).
Bankruptcy seems to be a just "loophole" to an unjust or unethical credit system.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
i fail to see how banking is unjust or unethical. this moralization of credit is condescending. would you rather live in a society where no one is lent money?
CosmoAce@reddit
No condescension intended, I apologize.
I'll focus specifically on the credit system, since banking has many tools beyond it.
In an ideal world, people spend what they have and do so responsibly, meaning they don't spend more than they earn after savings. Credit, at its core, enables spending beyond your means. That's not inherently bad, but it should function as a last resort, not a default financial tool.
The problem is that the credit system is engineered to be attractive, sometimes even financially sensible; paying bills on a rewards card, taking an auto loan to build your credit score. But that raises the question: why does a credit score matter so much in the first place? Because so many major purchases now require financing due to how expensive they've become, and financing requires a credit history. It's circular by design.
Markets respond to what people buy, not what they can genuinely afford. Credit distorts that signal entirely. An automaker doesn't price a car at $50K because buyers have $50K. They do it because their prior year's $45K model sold via financing. The price ceiling keeps rising because credit props up demand that wouldn't otherwise exist.
I'm not saying I have the answer and people are irresponsible. I have two auto loans I'm actively trying to eliminate. And I'm not arguing for a world without lending. But when companies face no pricing pressure because credit perpetually enables consumer spending to meet shareholder demands, debt becomes the foundation of the economy, not a tool within it. That, to me, is unethical. The lack of government intervention by applying pressure on companies to price products, at least their normal goods, in range that does not require the average person to go into debt to afford, is unjust. To me.
TDot-26@reddit
They're saying that the vast majority of people don't do what you're saying so it's (mostly) a non-issue.
Lolgabs@reddit
The dudes name is big daddy baller. He's probably a fucking idiot.
TDot-26@reddit
I don't judge books by their covers
LaMesaPorFavore@reddit
In most chapter 7s you lose everything except a small amount of personal items. Some states it's easier to keep your house but that's the exception. Chapter 13 forces you to live with a very small budget for years. It aint easy.
NonReality@reddit
Plus, money is fake lol so its wild to jail someone for debt (i know it's a little abstract for the convo here, but I still felt the need to say it)
Critical-Positive858@reddit
what is fake about money?
OpulentOwl@reddit
Seriously. They can just take the car. Prison seems extreme and inhumane and should be reserved for actual crimes, not failing to pay a loan.
militaryintelligence@reddit
I have 2 cars I pay for, so I can get my wife and I back and forth to work. We have a credit card maxed out with health bills and other necessities like gas and food.
You people who have no idea what it is like to be low/middle class right now make me fucking sick. We are struggling to survive.
Rimjobs_4_OSRS_Bonds@reddit
lmao skill issue
Critical-Positive858@reddit
guaranteed the story is more complex than two cars and medical bills
LaughingLikeACrazy@reddit
Land of the free
will2089@reddit
We want people to rebuild after bankruptcy so they can return to contributing to the economy and fix their finances.
Strange-Term-4168@reddit
That’s why they charge such high interest rates. To make up for all the people who dont pay.
makeyousaywhut@reddit
That’s because it’s a tool meant to be used by the newly destitute?
Classic-Dirt5324@reddit
If you're rich. If you're poor and do this your fucked
diddlysquidler@reddit
But this drives the innovation, otherwise nobody would ever risk opening any business
Th3_Accountant@reddit
What is the alternative though?
Bankruptcy is usually at a point where you seem unable to repay your debts ever. We don't gain anything by letting a person remain in debt for the rest of their natural life.
Volo_Kin@reddit
Everything you have being repossessed and then you work like a donkey to repay the rest?
Th3_Accountant@reddit
Bankruptcy usually means hundreds of thousands worth of debts, often the people can’t even pay the interest on their debt. If there was any chance they could repay this amount in their lifetime, they wouldn’t be bankrupt.
Cooladjack@reddit
Sound crazy but a business is more likely to end in bankruptcy rather than the ladder. The bankruptcy system prompts businesses startup. As without it only very wealthy people would want to start a business
Alex014@reddit
Getting a chapter 13 bankruptcy is not as easy as you think. If a judge figures out youre doing it in bad faith they'll deny it and your only options might be a type of bankruptcy that helps you manage your debt payments to more manageable amounts. You also dont get to keep all the cool stuff you irresponsibly spent your money on.
voiceOfHoomanity@reddit
Yep. Especially compared to regular middle class folk who never have anywhere near a chance to fuck up that badly in their lives without more serious consequences
Bankruptcy should carry a harsher penalty than it does now. Especially when it causes other people to not be paid for already rendered services, etc
mrpoonjikkara@reddit
It is easy to get a loan in Dubai and a lot of people take massive loans to fund a luxury lifestyle they can barely afford and end up in such a situation when they lose their jobs.
MechanicalMan64@reddit
It makes sense IF there is a fair and working society, where irresponsibility is not rewarded with trust and more money.
It seems to me that the founders designed the government to have as few laws as possible, while assuming a "social conscience" would protect the people.
This conscience would theoretically mean that those who go bankrupt aren't given the chance to screw up again. If a factory/owner is "unintentionally" poisoning their fellow citizens (pollution), that they would face social consequences like ostriziation.
I like to believe that so much of our government was made this to avoid the spectre that is "tyranny of government", but then I remember that many founders owned slaves and only land owners could vote.
ruffen@reddit
Bankruptcy is essentially a consumer protection mechanism. It puts some of the responsibility for the loan over to the bank and forces banks to do more due diligence. Ideally banks are forced to eat the loss and not get bailed out as well, but that's another story.
In a country where you can loose your job tomorrow it's actually a pretty big protection to have. It does get abused, as all things does. However I'm surprised so many people are eager to give banks even more power just because you look down morally on people that have to use the protection.
regulationinflation@reddit
It shouldn’t be. Banks thoroughly assess the risk of whether you will repay or not and charge you for it (interest). It’s not like you get to keep the car you default on. In bankruptcy, they take everything possible and then your risk profile for borrowing anything it enormous for 7 years, meaning any debt you incur will be charged astronomical rates.
Why should there be additional “punishment”. The lenders make money either way. It’s a business deal, not a blood oath.
Pale_Character5944@reddit
Usury is a sin
Zhaopow@reddit
But fees aren't. Sharia banking is funny
gobgobgobgob@reddit
You and the guy below you sound like edgy teens. What should the consequence of not paying your debt be?
Volo_Kin@reddit
100 lashes
TheSquireJons@reddit
It's one of the chief reasons the US became the richest countries in the world. Not having bankruptcy laws basically means an individual can only ever fail in business once. Allowing people a way out of debt allows them to try again.
Volo_Kin@reddit
Don't the US have the biggest national debt?
TheSquireJons@reddit
Government debt and consumer debt are totally different.
Volo_Kin@reddit
Yes but it's an example that you can spent borrowed money indefinitely.
Inspectorsteve@reddit
You can if you are the issuer of the world reserve currency, bro knows nothing about how central banks and fractional reserve lending works
TheSquireJons@reddit
What?
Stolen_Showman@reddit
Don't use facts when the yanks are around 😂
Original_Bicycle5696@reddit
Did you know that the people of the United States and the government of the United States are different entities?
Arguably our government doesn't have a revenue problem, just a spending problem.
Artistic-Grape-7656@reddit
This is low-key nice
Stock-Zebra3413@reddit
Talking about the US or the UAE? A lot of folks from the Gulf countries spend a lot of money on lifestyle. I went to school with a properly wealthy kid and from him I found out that not every local/citizen is wealthy, that a bunch go as far as taking out loans to keep up appearances. When they default, the government bails them out anyway. Every Ramadan, thousands of debtors are pardoned and some just go back to taking out loans and buying expensive cars.
Us foreigners may groan but citizens have nothing to complain about.
MrKorakis@reddit
Giving a loan to people means you assume a risk and that entitles you to the interst you get as a lender.
People getting loans allows them to try business ideas or make large investments like buying a house. That is good for the economy.
Bankruptcy is not a pardon, when you declare bankruptcy you usually lose everything and start from scratch it's not a get out of jail free card
neotekz@reddit
That's because you don't know the abusive history that cause debt to be treated that way in the western world. It's so that businesses and banks don't give out predatory loans to desperate people that they know wont be able to pay then turn them into a salve to pay back the loan with interest.
Bankruptcy is not a pardon on your debt lol there's lots of real consequences but that also includes the banks losing some money. It's the cost of doing business for them. You dont hear banks complaining about it.
Volo_Kin@reddit
Well, you won't be able to get a loan to buy a new car for a few years and then here we go again. Didn't a particular billionaire president go bankrupt a few times while remaining a billionaire?
neotekz@reddit
You just learning now that the rich play by a different set of rules?
aj_thenoob2@reddit
The credit nuke lasts for 5-7 years which is a pretty decent time in one's life.
Volo_Kin@reddit
And then rince and repeat...
lalospv@reddit
It's exactly what banks do, privatise profits and socialise losses. Why should be different for individuals? The banks are wrongly assesing risk then? It's both parts failure.
twd_2003@reddit
Debtors prison and harsher penalties for debt nonpayment used to be a thing in the West as well. Presumably at some point people decided it was a net societal disbenefit (especially to their dependents if the debtor was a breadwinner) to do this
aron2295@reddit
I was gonna say its funny because even with BK, society (particularly the very creditors who enabled the “criminal”) created ways to address the “conditions” that BK puts the individual in.
Everyone realized it is better to keep individuals productive and keep money flowing thru society.
LaMesaPorFavore@reddit
Fun fact: in early american debtors prisons the government had no obligation to pay for food or clothing unlike criminal prison. The people were nicer but the conditions were awful.
buttsnuggles@reddit
It also costs money to put someone in jail.
Limesmack91@reddit
It's not crazy if you try to start a business of any kind. You'll have a hard time to convince people to start a business if failure means going to jail as well as being broke
I_divided_by_0-@reddit
It’s in the US constitution.
costafilh0@reddit
Not as crazy as going to prison for it.
lucky_Goal348@reddit
Do these cars go to copart then?
lanciadub@reddit
I thought this crap was debunked years ago. It was just pics of parked cars covered in sand after a storm.
gregghia@reddit (OP)
Is it made up? Hell I don't know. I was buyin it.
G_Lee_9@reddit
i think they now auction off the vehicle after six month's os of no communication from the owners.
420_69_Fake_Account@reddit
Crazy system because if you get caught stealing an abandoned car they cut your hand off… so they just sit around .
Stunning_Chicken8438@reddit
Sharia law also bans loaning money for interest in the first place FWIW. Islam is very against being in debt but also very against being a lender. Dubai just criminalized one and not the other so like most problems blame the people in power selective enforcement of rules not the rules itself. All rule systems can be abused.
Pretty much the only fully legal sharia loans are shareholder style business purchase agreements and if the business fails the lender takes a loss too. Getting a loan to buy a car you can’t afford is exactly what sharia law is trying to stop in the first place.
Narrow_Printer@reddit
BS
gregghia@reddit (OP)
What is BS?
gregghia@reddit (OP)
u/Tile02 Nice add on the Bankruptcy Law document. Processed it and it turns out the UAE passed a brand new Bankruptcy Law in 2023 (Federal Decree-Law No. 51). Sounds promising... until you read the fine print: it explicitly excludes personal consumer debt, which is exactly the category most car loans fall under. So while the UAE now has a formal bankruptcy court system for businesses, the guy who maxed out his credit buying a Lamborghini and then bolted? Still a criminal. The supercars are still piling up. 🏎️⚰️
gregghia@reddit (OP)
So I dug deeper, and it gets more interesting. A few facts that'll make you wonder:
The gap between "person flees the country" and "car hits auction 6 months later" is essentially an untapped business white space; debt restructuring brokerage, auction facilitation, fleet acquisition for resale. Someone with the right government relationships in Dubai could build something real here.
What do you think, is this a problem the UAE wants to fix, or is the auction revenue too good to give up?
Tile02@reddit
The UAE has had a Bankruptcy Law since 2024:
https://uaelegislation.gov.ae/en/legislations/2190/download
gregghia@reddit (OP)
That's a lot to ingest but I'll break it down...
XROOR@reddit
Went to undergrad with Sheik Mahktoum’s son attending dental school:
His dorm FLOOR was like the movie “Coming To America.”
Heard similair stories of Saudi royalty attending GW and Johns Hopkins renting a whole floor in a dorm for “security” purposes
Vokaiso@reddit
I wouldnt jail anyone but i agree id force them to work to pay off the debt they took that they probably knew they couldnt repay properly, and limit them to basic things like a twingo all you get until you repay what you owe.
GundalfTheCamo@reddit
The law was changed, no more debtors prison. That could be why you see only quite old cars in the picture.
People used to abandon cars in the airport parking lot.
marlinspikefrance@reddit
I also want to clarify that putting people in Jail is in no way “Islamic” or “Sharia” or anything like that. Being in debt is not a sin or a criminal act in Islam.
Deceiving Or defrauding? Yes. But being in debt? No
AnusStapler@reddit
Yes, because they were on lease and the 2008/2009 credit crisis made a lot of people just flee Dubai because their companies were going bust.
Nounoon@reddit
The law change in 2016 with introduction of bankruptcy laws so I’m guessing the post is before that. Then personal insolvency laws became effective in 2019 completely scrapping what’s in the post. Then the law was simplified for all bankruptcy in 2023.
ConorDrew@reddit
Isn’t it against the Muslim religion to have debt? Or are there loopholes ?
Less_Programmer_7808@reddit
debt is allowed. interest isnt. but not repaying debt is a major sin so people do tend to avoid it, unless theyre sure theyll be able to pay back.
HubertTempleton@reddit
To add to that: interest isn't allowed, but adding hefty charges to debt is. So all the money that would go towards interest is instead shifted to these fees. That's how Islamic banks are able to function. As Rick Sanchez would put it: it's just interest with extra steps.
Less_Programmer_7808@reddit
one difference tho is that with interest, in the event of not being able to pay back, the problem keeps getting worse and eventually you become enslaved to the other person. with these huge service fee, that isnt the case. so it does avoid some of the problems with interest
Less_Programmer_7808@reddit
that practice is debated by scholars and only a minority accept today's islamic banks' repackaged loans.
ConorDrew@reddit
Awesome, thank you for clearing that up :)
Host_Informal@reddit
There are some companies who buy those cars, fix them up, import them to the US and sell them at a discounted price. The problem is that this business model is not that sustainable due to the problem of finding who the car belonged to, to what bank they owe the money to, how much is the outstanding amount on the car loan, and whether the car is in good enough condition and due to being exotic cars, most of these cars have not been driven for like years, hence they might not be doing so well since there has been no servicing done. Also its a whole time consuming process to get the car, you need original documents, and getting each document would take a lot of time, then you need to get approvals by the authorities and may involve a lot of legal matter so the ROI is pretty bad on these.
The smart solution that the UAE Gov have come up is to use these cars as their police vehicles. If you have been on the internet, you must have seen Dubai Police Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc. Cant say for certain, but most probably these vehicles were not bought new but repurposed after abandonment since the only people who can get a good ROI on these are the Gov itself since they can bypass all the rigmarole so this is the best use for these poor vehicles rather than sitting abandoned with no purpose since no one practically would spend the time and money to get these cars running due to low ROI.
Also, they have changed the law to reduce the severity of unpaid loans. Now they won't be considered as criminal cases (no jail) and just as civil case so no arrests can be done by the police but there may still be legal complications so cant really talk much on this matter.
GundalfTheCamo@reddit
The dubai police supercars are most commonly loans or donations from rich individuals, similar to the Italian Police lambo.
alarumba@reddit
Get out of jail fee cars.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
Some European countries will confiscate your car for serious offences, like drunk driving or contraband. Usually those cars are sold at an auction, but in some cases the cops keep them.
There was an Audi Q7 that was confiscated because the driver had thousands of packs of undeclared cigarettes, driving from Belarus to Germany.
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/8d94373c5912.jpg
The text on the back door says "Confiscated from smugglers".
Nounoon@reddit
People sometimes refer to it being illegal to have dirty cars in Dubai, but it was actually for this very matter. Once a car looks abandoned, it gets a 30 days notice to « clean » (basically show it’s not abandoned), then when that time is passed, the car can get impounded and after some time of unpaid fines, it would get auctioned off by Dubai Police through Emirates Auction, where it would be legally bought. Often the place where such cars are bought is Sharjah where there is a massive operation of rebuilding cars (often US salvaged), at let’s say to be kind « various level of quality ».
The expensive ones are then sold to the global market. Thus why it’s important when buying a car from the region to check ownership trail.
Undark_@reddit
It's often because the cars are fakes and it's cheaper to just call it a loss and abandon it than it is to dispose of it properly. People are in Dubai for a short time, buy one of these fakes, then can't/don't sell it when they leave. They just get ditched.
morefita@reddit
What kind of supercar would suit a girl? I mean, me 😈
DefinitelyNotAxlerod@reddit
1998 renault twingo
morefita@reddit
Good
BastianHill@reddit
But why are those cars not going back to the people that provided the loan and the car in the first place. If you don't pay, it's theirs to take right? Give that Enzo a proper wash and sell/lease it to another guy.
funkmachine7@reddit
Or they get sand on them all the time because there's a lot of sand around...
SpeedyAudi@reddit
Seeing an Enzo sitting in this lot is wild lol
osemec@reddit
True, bankruptcy is illegal in Dubai, which makes it feel illegal in the US and Europe, where millions of dept is just written off and nothing ever happens to you.
Soros_G@reddit
Must be nice living in the middle ages
strangway@reddit
It’s exactly like when the Pope was in charge. What a wild time.
E8282@reddit
How much jail time are we talking about here because I’ll take that Enzo for a summer if it’s under a year in prison.
ScienceMechEng_Lover@reddit
That's how it should be. We need to remember that the fees and interest rates banks charge us goes up each time someone declares bankruptcy. The bankrupt should face the consequences for effectively stealing the money of the financially responsible.
zeno0771@reddit
Believe it or not, straight to ~~jail~~ auction.
costafilh0@reddit
What a great country to live 😂
What about the cars? Do they get auctioned?
Feligris@reddit
While apparently the current legislation is less stringent given the comments here, there's delicious schadenfreude about how in most cases the former owners of these cars were likely arrogant nouveau rich people who came to Dubai due to a "all taxes bad since it's muh money, all workers' rights bad because I need slave labour for my company, etc." mindset, and ended up cowardly fleeing the results of living in a country which exemplifies such thinking when they failed.