New Covid variant has been identified and is already spreading in 25 states
Posted by No_Minute_4789@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 303 comments
This story is pretty straight forward. There is a new strain of COVID-19. Unfortunately it has mutated enough from it's parent strains that the 2025/2026 vaccines are not effective enough to prevent symptoms, although they may reduce the severity of the illness. The strain does not seem to be deadlier, or include any new symptoms. It causes a standard presentation of COVID-19 that includes coughing, body pains, fever, etc. However, because neither vaccines nor previous exposure are protective against this strain it is important to protect yourself.
If you have comorbidities such as Asthma, COPD, Obesity, Heart Disease, any immune disease, including both hypoimmune, hyperimmune, and autoimmune disease, or are a smoker, you are at greatly increased risk of developing SARS.
SARS (Severe Accute Respiratory Syndrome) is a deadly viral syndrome that causes shortness of breath, and extreme coughing. This can result in hypoxia, or lack of oxygen. If treatment for SARS is delayed or ineffective, it can be fatal, or become ARDS, Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. ARDS can cause bleeding in the lungs, fluid in the lungs, hypoxia, and apoxia (no oxygen at all), and is fatal in the majority of patients diagnosed with it. SARDS or ARDS requires hospitalization. If you experience shortness of breath, violent cough, or a fever with coughing, go to the Emergency Room.
In the meantime protect yourselves as usual. Be dilligent with your hygiene and hand washing, take your vitamins, get outside, get exercise, hydrate, wear a mask if you are sick or are concerned you'll be exposed to sick people, and toss a bottle of hand sanitizer into your purse or glove box if you haven't already. Be safe out there everyone.
Careless_City516@reddit
In the UK. Literally everyone I know is or has recently been ill. Differences vary, haven’t seen much coughing, but flu like symptoms including fever, aching, headaches, nausea, fatigue and brain fog have been omnipresent.
Palmquistador@reddit
Ah, in the US but this sounds like what my life and I just had.
ordenando@reddit
En qué país vives? Quizás ya llegó allí
Deus_is_Mocking_Us@reddit
I hope you and your life are okay!
Low-Sport2155@reddit
It’s a good thing you have two lives and even better that both of them now have some natural immunity to this variant.
Felicity_Calculus@reddit
Ugh. These are the exact symptoms I had last year when I had it and it was miserable
angrytetchy@reddit
don't you guys also have a meningitis outbreak going on too?
Careless_City516@reddit
Sure do. It’s something everyone I’ve talked to is worried about, but the vast majority of us got our MMRV vaccines young so in the slim chance we do get it, should only be reasonably mild if we’re healthy beforehand
MindfulTree52@reddit
MMRV only protects against measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella (chicken pox) and not meningitis B.
You’ll only be protected if you’ve been vaccinated against Meningitis B in the last few years.
That vaccine is newer so it’s unlikely you received it. The outbreak is occurring since young adults are a group that is most at risk of meningitis and most of them were vaccinated against Meningitis ACWY, but not Men B.
Careless_City516@reddit
Damn. Oh well.
MindfulTree52@reddit
You can still get the vaccine but you may have to hunt for it a little. I got vaccinated a few days ago in the US, but I know it’s different for others
Careless_City516@reddit
Afraid stocks are practically non existent in the uk. I got one some 10 or 15 years ago in high school. Just have to hope my body still has some immunity
MindfulTree52@reddit
I hope you’ll be able to find one some day because more places are recommending it for teenagers. Men B outbreaks are becoming more common now because the Men ACWY vaccine did a good job of preventing outbreaks of the other strains.
Definitely check online for a vaccine locator. That’s how I got vaccinated
Careless_City516@reddit
Where are you based? Here in the UK, the national health services messages us when they’re offering vaccines, just need to book one in at the local practice
MindfulTree52@reddit
Im in the US.
Careless_City516@reddit
Ah. I can’t even begin to understand your healthcare system I’ll be honest.
MindfulTree52@reddit
I hear you loud and clear 😂
Bettybeaubeau@reddit
That’s not true hence why there is an outbreak. They didn’t add it to the vaccines till 2015 hence why majority of the population are not vaccinated against it. Only 0-2 year olds get the vaccine now and it does not offer life long protection. You need boosters and you can pay for that privately for around £200 however currently there are no vaccines available as they vaccinating the high risk people who have been in contact over 10,000 people
Careless_City516@reddit
Ahh sorry got confused about the acronym
Confident_Yak_1411@reddit
This looks like it’s over, it was an outbreak in a specific area.
MundaneDaffodill@reddit
Measles warnings in my state
spleencheesemonkey@reddit
Yup.
thewaryteabag@reddit
I work in a café and I had to boot the person in the kitchen earlier because they had a temperature, which kept getting worse. White as a sheet... fuck sake 🥲
Square_Significance2@reddit
I'm unsure if it's covid, but I've been sick the last 2 weeks, and I'm getting week 3 with a cough and thick phlegm. I have asthma so I've been wary, and if it doesn't get any better I will be seeing a doctor.
I do mask, except for one event we attended, and I was the only one who got sick.
I can confirm it seems almost everyone is coughing or down with something up here on my aircrafts. (flight attendant)
mosparky15@reddit
Why worry with this guy in charge?
Pleasant_Web9044@reddit
Nice try
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
I mean it gave me a new fun heart condition already so maybe this round will cancel that out?
sgantm20@reddit
Covid twice in six months shredded my heart. I was already being monitored closely for a valve issue and the data shows a massive drop in efficiency and other numbers from the before and after. Had to get heart surgery last year.
kittykatmila@reddit
Not heart surgery, but Covid messed up my stomach. I talked to someone else who had similar symptoms have it go away after 1.5 years. I’m hoping mine will get better sooner. It’s like it’s constantly inflamed. I have only had it once too!
YeetusThatFetus9696@reddit
My cousin went from having some mild issues with occasional constipation to now she's unable to shit at all unless she takes miralax a couple times a week combined with a prescription for Linzess after having covid in 2022.
kittykatmila@reddit
I’m sorry to hear that. It’s bizarre how Covid settles in our gut when it’s done and then continues wreaking havoc on us 😭
kimchidijon@reddit
Same here. My gut is so messed up, my intestines always feel inflamed
kittykatmila@reddit
I’ve found eating smaller meals throughout the day helps and getting more fibre in my diet. It was hell for awhile. I was down to 118 lbs at one point.
kimchidijon@reddit
I actually gained weight, 10lbs. It feels like food doesn’t move through my stomach so it’s hard for me to eat multiple times a day. I can only manage twice a day.
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
People don't know about (or maybe don't understand) this part of things.
A bunch of people have unknown unmonitored heart issues now. The early stages are very easy to explain away.
cyberlich@reddit
Can you explain your last sentence or point me to some reading/resources? Long story short I was in the ER twice thinking I was having a heart attack and in the hospital for a week doing diagnostics in February. I didn’t have a heart attack (very similar symptoms, but no troponin) and my BP was spiking into the 180/120 territory seemingly at random, but subsided over 4 days. Nothing significant showing up on a battery of tests, just some elevated (not high) cholesterol. Currently they are treating me for high BP and cholesterol. I’m 47, male, non-smoker. I am overweight but was very fit until 2020 when I got COVID the first time (had it 4 times that I know of, despite vaccination).
vuotobean@reddit
Could be POTS maybe? Whenever I hear of spiking unexplainable bpm thats the first thing I think of.
AceCasinova@reddit
I actually had that and it turned out to be Graves Disease that had been untreated for aaaaages lol
Not triggered by COVID, though (that I know of). Didn't actually catch that until after I got my thyroid under control and so glad those weren't concurrent... (but covid DID trigger some crazy arthritis and completely killed my sense of appetite)
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
Mine is a rhythm issue related to a group of cells in my heart misfiring and sending a signal for one quadrant of my heart to have extra contractions out of sync with the rest, and occasionally go into v-fib, as a treat.
I didn't have this until after covid.
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
The part about the early stages?
I do think you should try to see a cardio electrophysiologist. They are all about the electrical system of your heart. It hurts nothing to have one look at your tests as a second opinion. Maybe you even get to wear the big annoying sticker heart monitor for a couple of weeks or a month to try to catch an episode.
COVID seems to mess up heart rhythm and the electrical system of the heart as a whole and those issues can be maddeningly transient until they aren't.
You'll have periods of fine with moments of odd sweating, odd for you anxiety or feelings of impending doom, headaches, swelling in your legs, and sometimes really intense heart attack symptoms that throw no blood markers for damage.
cyberlich@reddit
Thanks for the response! I actually did wear an EKG for a month. But yea, the symptoms you describe is 100% what’s been happening to me. I’ll see if I can find a cardio electrophysiologist to consult with.
ThisWillPass@reddit
Let me guess, elevated liver enzymes with Pfizer vaccine?
cyberlich@reddit
Not that I know of. My liver enzymes have been elevated since at least 2000, and I have a non-alcoholic fatty liver. But turns out I was exposed to PFAS from Shaw carpet mills in my teens. Oh, and not to mention my dad is a Vietnam veteran with direct contact with Agent Orange. He didn’t spray it, but it was stored and deployed from the base he was stationed at, so he got the smoke from the burn pits at the very least.
My body and my sister’s are a wonderland of puzzling medical conditions.
ThisWillPass@reddit
My liver enzymes went off with the Pfizer vaccine, turns out they knew about it it in rats, raised about 20% in the study, but said, lets not put any warning on it (not even for people with NAFL). To date, just a suggestion to look into it more. (This was for the Pfizer vaccine only, something about how the delivery vehicle interacts with the liver)
Never had fatty liver before or after, and I was getting tested yearly. If I had known, I would have went with something else, but thats probably why it wasn’t well known.
Ok-League-3024@reddit
Is there a name for this? Literally my symptoms and my doctor thinks it is not my heart since I am young but my bp is normal also 122 but during an attack it goes to 170. Blood is fine also.
Literally wanted to put me in therapy for panic attacks but it’s not a panic attack and I have zero worries in life (god willing).
igotadillpickle@reddit
Covid has caused a dramatic increase in POTS. Most people associate it with an inappropriate drop in BP but it can also cause an inappropriate increase in BP as well. Maybe look into that? It's very manageable if you know you have it, a lot of people do and just manage their symptoms.
Rustie_J@reddit
It can cause increased BP, too? Like a steady increase, or in response to activity/standing up?
igotadillpickle@reddit
It's not steady. Just spikes in BP that drop. If it's steady than you have hypertension.
Rustie_J@reddit
It developed almost literally overnight, though, so I've been wondering for years if it was COVID sequelae.
HildegardofBingo@reddit
It causes so much endothelial dysfunction that I think it's very possible for it to cause elevated BP. There's also a variation of POTS called hyperadrenagenic POTS that causes elevated BP.
cyberlich@reddit
It’s definitely not POTS. My sister has that and the cardiologist tested me for that. But thanks for the suggestion!
TimeIntern957@reddit
Yeah they are, all took that shot(s)
Kooky-Masterpiece-87@reddit
Vaccinated?
sgantm20@reddit
Yeah, and no medical data to support any changes around my vaccinations.
Kooky-Masterpiece-87@reddit
So you got the Covid vax, and you think the heart issue is due to just getting Covid?
Sheeeeeeeeeeepy@reddit
Yeah lol that’s what actual doctors say. Not rfk brained morons on the internet.
sgantm20@reddit
We know it is. What's your point?
I have 10+ years of data from ekgs, from 2015 til now of transthoracic echocardiograms, ct angiographies, etc. that show no single greater causation of decline in the function of my heart than the two times I had covid.
voiderest@reddit
You got to use the Burns method and log jam all the things.
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
All things in perfect balance.
Slacker_75@reddit
That’s from the 💉
attilathehunn@reddit
Long covid was around before the vaccines were even available. Plus similar illnesses caused by other viruses have been around for centuries at least (although long covid is much more common)
Slacker_75@reddit
Only people that took the 💉 got long covid
HildegardofBingo@reddit
My friend ended up with heart valve damage after getting mild Covid in April of 2020. Lots of people had issues from Covid long before any vaccines were available. BTW, myocarditis rates from Covid infections happen at 7-11x the rate of myocarditis from the vaccines and it tends to be a more severe form than the vaccines cause, so this narrative that it's always the shots needs to stop. It's just doing people a huge disfavor and giving them a false sense of safety (no shot= no problems).
Zromaus@reddit
That was the vaccine lol
ThisWillPass@reddit
My liver is ready to be trashed again.
A_BirdInHand@reddit
Yay for new arrhythmias!
akath0110@reddit
Wait same. Seems like POTS, according to the cardiologist, but nothing official diagnosed yet. Just random episodes of intense tachycardia (fast pounding heart beat) and chest tightness, dizziness.
The first time it happened I thought it was a heart attack, went to the ER. In the rooms on either side of me were similarly young (20s-40s) and we all had almost the same symptoms.
With this strain + the impact of cumulative COVID infections… I fear we are in the FO phase of FAFO
fragrant-final-973@reddit
New brain fog counters old brain fog? I'm in!
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
I would appreciate it if it would return my proper noun recall. That has been the most maddening part aside from the whole heart thing.
ALittleEtomidate@reddit
This has also happened to me, and I’m not sure if it’s COVID related or if it’s related to parenthood. I had my first baby just before the first time I tested positive for COVID.
GeneralOrgana1@reddit
Mom brain is real, my friend. Be gentle to yourself in this new phase of your life.
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
It could be both. Fluctuating progesterone levels have a side effect of brain fog, and is oddly specific with proper noun recall (names of places, people, and things).
I had off and on issues with it after I had my kids in the early 00's. It eased up over the years but covid brought it back with a vengeance.
drchippy18@reddit
Every movie I watch - “ oh it’s that one guy from that one movie”
mediocre_remnants@reddit
Eh, could be worse. I have some mild face blindness and have trouble recognizing people and telling two similar-looking people apart.
Watching Lord of the Rings the first time was really confusing because all of the guys with long dark hair and beards all looked like the same person to me. And I'm a dude with long dark hair and a beard.
I also got called a racist at work, to my face, because I called one of the two Black women in our office the wrong name (she said something like: you racists think all Black people look the same!). But I went to HR and the lady apologized to me the next day. I think HR may have done a poor job explaining my condition to her, because after that she treated me like I had a learning disability. She'd speak slowly and be super positive with me, like I'm a little kid. It was kind of hilarious.
Poncahotas@reddit
Ugh I am about 95% sure it had it 2 weeks ago and ever since I feel like I've needed an extra 2-3 seconds to spit out whatever the hell I'm trying to say, trying to not get too sad over it
nelsonalgrencametome@reddit
Count me in as well. Haven't had a clear head since...
igor561@reddit
This brain fog is new and improved!
non_stop_19@reddit
lol same boat… just tested positive today for my third infection 🫠 i’ll report back on if it pemdas-es itself out
mildbill_42@reddit
Cancel you out maybe ;)
givemeonemargarita1@reddit
Did it give you SVT? Bc I have a theory that’s how I got it
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Oh god, I'm so sorry to hear that. That sucks. It's a good time for you to spend a lot of time outdoors and away from crowds. Maybe you deserve a vacation anyway?
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
I would love that but I'm in the pipeline for heart surgery number 4 in 1 year.
Like, I said, it's a fun condition. Super fun. All the fun. I know most of the cardiac nurses by first name now.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
My friend, cardiology is not my area of expertise, but I have so much faith in good Cardiologists, and the staff that work with them. My Dad had a widowmaker heart attack, normally that's a death sentence. The cardiologist who saved his life basically performed a Lazarus level miracle, and I get to have my Dad for a few more years.
It sounds like what you're going through is complicated, and difficult. You can do it though, Perfect_Caregiver_90! You have chosen the aid of surgical pros, and those scalpel warriors are there for you!
I really hope you keep yourself safe, and that your Cardiology team is great. We can do so much with surgery, medication, and novel treatments than we used to be able to do. I hope you are on the path to healing, and I'm glad you're still working to get help with this. May your surgery date arrive soon, and your recovery be swift.
BeYeCursed100Fold@reddit
The States:
TheAwsomeReditor@reddit
Thankgod its not in arizona yet its too hot here for that nonsense
Agreeable_Quality784@reddit
Trust me it’s hear I’m in Mesa and I’m sick with it rn
TheAwsomeReditor@reddit
Oh fuck dont say that bro i like to think the heat here kills germs oh goddd we cant afford another covid lol
Agreeable_Quality784@reddit
I went to the suns Denver game and I been bed ridden every since.
TheAwsomeReditor@reddit
Ofc the people from denver came and gave you their germs SMH it had to be denver🫠
Agreeable_Quality784@reddit
All the mouth breathing Mormons 🤣
jadedflux@reddit
I’m certain I had this in Oregon a few weeks ago. I had to extend my hotel by four days because I was legit dying in my room.
margesimpson84@reddit
Isn't it covid-26?
Megatwan@reddit
Why isn't your name marge2026?
Playful_Possible_379@reddit
Coviid Le traitor. Same pain half the resources. Ala traitour -47 pedo
BeYeCursed100Fold@reddit
According to the article, paragraph 2, it is a new Variant named BA 3.2.
forbiddenfreedom@reddit
Ronies be ronien.
sarahstanley@reddit
Remember SARS-CoV-2 is airborne and can spread pre-symptomatically and asymptomatically (meaning you can't tell if someone is infectious just by looking at them).
I'm assuming the preppers here are already stocked up and using variant proof airborne mitigation measures.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
As far as airborne mitigation measures, I've got masks. What do you or others otherwise reccomend? I live in a very old house, and work in an older building, so things like HEPPA filters in an HVAC system aren't options for me in particular. I'm curious if there are alternative options?
sarahstanley@reddit
Masks as in respirators? (N95 or similar/better).
Basically filtration and ventilation.
Filtration via portable air purifiers (HEPA, DIY CR box). Ventilation via open windows, mechanical ventilation like a fan.
Monitoring CO2 for ventilation is good too. Air quality monitor that monitors PM 2.5 as well as CO2 is good (because PM 2.5 is another big issue to deal with, especially now with more regular wild fires and loosening environmental protection).
There's also far UV-C, but I am not familiar with that. Unlike air filtration, far UV-C doesn't tackle PM 2.5, microplastics and other particles that are not good to inhale.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I have N-95 masks. I also have double layered cotton masks that are washable and reusable.
I have some UV bulbs for birds and reptiles, and it hadn't occured to me that these are likely sterilizing as well. Neat!
I'll look up the DIY CR box. I'm not rolling in enough money to buy a good HEPPA filter I'm afraid.
Thanks for the info!
CurrentBias@reddit
Double-layered cotton won't stop an aerosol. Stick to N95s
kl2342@reddit
Add a CO2 monitor with an NDIR sensor
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Looking that up on Amazon now. Thank you!
kl2342@reddit
yeah np! Aranet and Airthings are well-regarded brands in this space; for lower-priced devices I think the key differentiator is a physical NDIR sensor. My understanding is that cheaper devices approach the accuracy of the pricier ones so long as they have a real sensor in them. gl
terrierhead@reddit
Once you get used to making them, CR boxes are super easy.
attilathehunn@reddit
See this 60sec video https://youtu.be/kX9t8jQ9-fM
Main thing is a respirator mask and seek clean air (eg open windows, or HEPA filter)
Getting a booster vaccine is useful as another layer. I've seen evidence that having a booster within the last 6 months reduces long covid by about 40%. Have a look r/ZeroCovidCommunity theres a whole subreddit about not catching covid
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Thanks, didn't know that sub existed. I subscribed.
attilathehunn@reddit
There's a lot of doctors and nurses there who mask at work. Healthcare workers are at higher risk of getting long covid because they're around sick people often.
SaltonPrepper@reddit
Unfortunately also a lot who aren't, because the vast majority of healthcare folks are not infectious disease experts and let politics triumph over common sense.
attilathehunn@reddit
Unfortunately yes, I mean only doctors/nurses who also post on r/ZeroCovidCommunity
wyocrz@reddit
Get jabbed and move the fuck on with life.
sarahstanley@reddit
I think we're talking about different layers of the problem.
My point was about transmission dynamics, not severity mitigation.
Do you disagree that SARS-CoV-2 spreads airborne and can be transmitted before symptoms?
wyocrz@reddit
I screamed that from the rooftops in spring of 2020 when everyone was banging on about washing groceries.
Transmission dynamics, to me, are no longer important.
The only thing that was important was to control the nature of one's first infection.
sarahstanley@reddit
Do you think reinfections carry meaningful risk?
wyocrz@reddit
Not particularly, no.
For people for whom the risk is higher, the risk of everything is higher.
I also screamed from the rooftops in spring 2020 that they needed to flood federal money into hotel and apartment rental markets to allow folks to sort by risk.
Of course, that's wrongthink.
sarahstanley@reddit
When you say "not particularly", do you mean risk doesn't accumulate across infections?
wyocrz@reddit
I mean I don't particularly think that reinfections carry meaningful risk.
It's literally why we get vaccinated. That way, when the next infection happens, the body fights it off.
sarahstanley@reddit
Vaccination reduces severity. It doesn't eliminate long COVID risk from reinfections. Those are two different things.
wyocrz@reddit
I don't give a shit.
Bully for you to get someone to say something you didn't like, though.
Congrats. It's the thing I miss most from Covid days.
sarahstanley@reddit
Noted. Filed under perspectives not driven by data.
wyocrz@reddit
Get fucking real.
I had a better read on Covid from April 2020 than most.
You had your stupid little "gotcha"
Do you believe covid spreads in the air?
You literally asked that fucking question.
Zealot.
sarahstanley@reddit
The airborne question established shared premises. The reinfection risk point remains unanswered, despite your "better read in 2020."
wyocrz@reddit
You don't seem to get it.
I was a Blue Dog Dem for thirty fucking years until Team Donkey proved themselves to be as authoritarian and the party led by the orange shitstain.
sarahstanley@reddit
The reinfection risk point remains, irrespective of political affiliation.
wyocrz@reddit
I said my piece about reinfection risk many comments ago.
I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
I detest your line of questioning on this, because it literally got us Donald Trump.
He thanks you for your service.
sarahstanley@reddit
Your previous comment conflated severity reduction with cumulative reinfection risk. Those remain two different things. The science doesn't change based on the political consequences of saying it out loud.
wyocrz@reddit
I checked your posting history before calling you a bot, and you don't seem to be a bot.
But holy hell, you are dense.
I don't really know about cumulative reinfection risk, because......wait for it.....I don't give a shit.
I cared a lot pre-vaccine.
Then the vaccine showed up, and Team Donkey lost its goddamned mind.
sarahstanley@reddit
I agree with your own assessment.
wyocrz@reddit
Because I don't give a shit.
Yes, this conversation is triggering AF.
I detest zero-Covid zealotry.
We had a real chance of returning to something like normal in summer 2021, but it was not to be BECAUSE OF THE ZEALOTRY YOU'RE STILL SPREADING FIVE YEARS LATER.
You want to avoid Covid? Fine. Don't be around other humans.
sarahstanley@reddit
You describe zealotry preventing normalcy while dismissing cumulative risk yourself, in a prepper intelligence community, no less.
wyocrz@reddit
Yes, I am dismissing this particular risk, and I think it's irresponsible to spread it.
100%.
SaltonPrepper@reddit
Not only that but today Vox posted an article on how tuberculosis is on the rise again worldwide including in the U.S.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/483649/world-tuberculosis-day-tb-rates-usa
Add in bird flu, RSV, and the flu to COVID and it's looking more and more like masking is the only way to be sure.
Unhappy_Analysis_906@reddit
I just had these installed in my home, in case one of us gets sick, they can isolate effectively without risk of sickening the rest of us.
badbet@reddit
Sad state of affairs that I had to scroll this far before I saw anyone talking about masks
simpleisideal@reddit
Even more sad is the ignorance was not accidental but intentional. Both parties of capital interests have lots of blood on their hands for sweeping this under the rug in the name of our primitive consumption-based economy.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240802024326/https://docs.house.gov/meetings/VC/VC00/20220302/114453/HHRG-117-VC00-20220302-SD009.pdf
https://www.thegauntlet.news/p/how-the-press-manufactured-consent
badbet@reddit
Oh 100%, it’s beyond grotesque
seeking_0333@reddit
Uh huh
Peculiarcatlady@reddit
I was insanely sick with covid about a month ago. Worse than I've ever had it and I've had 3 (4?) vaccines. It was awful.
ColoradoDanno@reddit
Saw a recent study that large vitamin D doses during covid symptoms reduced potential for long covid. Probably easy to google and find details.
attilathehunn@reddit
There's a sticky on the zero covid subreddit about things to do if you get infected, with varying levels of evidence. Although metformin has relatively good evidence now that if taken during the acute phase reduces long covid by about 40%
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/comments/1nxhlvc/covid_positive_guide/
Correct_Patience_611@reddit
Unfortunately many of us quite literally cannot afford to miss a day of work, especially recently. I literally said “watch they’re gonna do another big Covid outbreak that the vaccines don’t cover” like half as a joke tó a friend. I have an extensive background in microbiology, not virology specifically, but I do know virus be mutatin’ mon! But seriously we just happen to have a strain that the vaccine doesnt help us confer immunity tó under Trump again? And last time the richest 1% of the world quadrupled their wealth in a couple years? It’s very hard to think it is not released on purpose. And it’s now AFTER all the Medicaid cuts have officially began for the ACA! Couldnt have happened in 2025?
Statistically we shouldn’t be seeing another breakthrough mutation like that for a few more years. SARS was 2008/9 and that was extremely low morbidity compared to its “natural mutation” At end of 2019 that killed many many many.
I mean there’s a measles outbreak in my county in Michigan RIGHT NOW. Like WHAT? I live in a woke ass leftist mix with liberals fantasy land where like everyone got vaccinated quick! Crazy how when the virus becomes more prevalent and bounces between more people/animals it mutates EVEN faster and outpaces vaccines! Go figure! Apparently this measles strain has infected some vaccinated, but it did not say whether their health was compromised already, which could be a factor.
Everyone has been coming to work sick. I’m mostly alone while working, socially distanced, but I stay home if I can.
ChiemgauerBrauhaus@reddit
I'm not even in your sphere but y'all may be interested in this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40359335/
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I don't have a link handy, but this is correct. Also, it is significantly more effective if you are getting thw vitamin D from sunlight. I know a lot of areas in the US and Canada still aren't getting adequate rays for vitamin D production yet, but even a little sunlight causes a lot of benificial chemical reactions, including an increase in nitric oxide, which protects your heart.
The best and smartest thing to do is supplement vitamin D, AND go get some sunlight. People have got to touch grass anyway, and spring is here!
Fun info: Vitamin D is so safe and effective that of all the medications I see prescribed, vitamin D is among the most commonly prescribed treatments for all kinds of ailments. We dish so much out per day that we have a hard time with ordering it in fast enough. It's cheap, it's natural (in forms like D3 anyway), and it's essential for almost all of your bodily functions.
Deus_is_Mocking_Us@reddit
What formulation of Vitamin D supplement has the best bioavailability?
Still_Noise@reddit
News link for Vitamin D study
msfuturedoc@reddit
Careful with that last statement. You will end up with people overdoing it. Vitamin D is one of the vitamins that is stored in fat in your body, so once its levels build up they don’t flush out quickly. That causes you to get to a toxic level unlike a water soluble vitamin like B12 where for the most part you are just peeing it out every time you take it. Take Vitamin D as prescribed and you’ll be good. Virtually everyone is deficient in it. If taking over the counter, follow instructions and get yearly Vitamin D labs drawn, if possible.
A similar thing happened with the measles outbreak and Vitamin A, another vitamin that is stored in fat in your body. There are always going to be people that think more = better. There are now many cases of Vit A toxicity as a result.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Excellent point. It's always a bad idea to be reckless with dosing. Certainly more does not always, (or even often) mean more effective.
Regarding vitamin D, to reach vitamin D toxicity levels you would need to intake >4,000–10,000 IU daily for several weeks or months. D3 can be taken daily at around 3,000 IU with no problem. High doses of vitamin D, Up to 50,000 internal units can be taken weekly.
Vitamin D2 is ussually prescribed in doses of 20,000 internal units monthly.
The majority of people simply will not much enough Vitamin D to hurt themselves, but it would possibly make you feel Sick if you take too much in one day. Vitamin D toxicity levels rarely occur.
Vitamin A is an entirely different story. Frankly, I would tell most people to just plain avoid taking a vitamin A, (retinoic acid) supplement, unless it is present in a small amount in your regular multi vitamin. (Multi vitamins is a whole can of worms of it's own.) Vitamin A toxicity is horrible and deadly. If you don't want Irreversible liver damage then don't be reckless with your vitamin A intake.
If you want to increase your vitamin A levels with supplements take it in the form of beta carotene. Your body will use beta carotene to make retinoic acid on it's own, and then stop when you reach adequate levels of it. The rest of the beta carotene will be stored in fat beneath the skin, which provides Some protection against photoaging and oxidation. It's harder to take too much beta caroten than with retinoic acid. The worst you could experience might be diareah, headaches, or skin on your palms and feet turning a bit too orange. (If that happens it goes away after lowering your dose for a while.) Beta Carotene is a great beauty vitamin, and can help reduce acne and photoaging, as well as make your skin tone warmer and glowier.
cabazon99@reddit
They just upped the allowable D, turns out they made a mistake.
2quickdraw@reddit
And most people are deficient.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Absolute truth.
BeneficialTrash6@reddit
Which is what I've been saying for five and a half years. I got the original covid, and then I got long covid from it. It was like having an asthma attack all the time. I couldn't walk a block without feeling like falling down and sleeping.
But the ONLY thing that helped was getting outside, in the sun, and doing light exercise.
I've been screaming about this for years, and a lot of the time my comments were removed for "spreading misinformation."
But NOW, OMG THERE'S A STUDY! Wow, basic practical common sense - get outside and enjoy the sun - well now it's supported by a fancy study! So wonderful! So great! Wow, maybe forcing people to stay inside all the time and closing the public parks was a really really stupid idea?
5 and a half years too late for many people. So much suffering. All to wait for a "study."
Opportunityyy@reddit
I’m picturing a red faced pale guy in a bathrobe sunning “the boys” in the front yard because it’ll prevent long covid 😅
SaltonPrepper@reddit
It's not some kind of preventative, it just makes it slightly less bad.
charlenecherylcarol@reddit
Welp this explains the last 2 months of everyone being sick with “something” but not being sure exactly what.
Zealousideal_Bee6323@reddit
Wear a mask regardless: r/ZeroCovidCommunity
asseatingvolcano@reddit
Thank you for sharing this. My mom has congestive heart failure and pulmonary arterial hypertension, so i’ll be extra cautious in public and making sure she’s cautious as well
Disastrous_Pin_0@reddit
I’m not living in fear. At this point, let it play its course. If people die, then so be it. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Someone dying of Covid is meaningless. What’s the use of extending their life 60+ years ( assuming they are 20) when in 100 years, they will be forgotten.
Humanity is so focused on themselves instead of coming to terms with that fact that everyone currently on Reddit will be dead by 2126. Extending millions of lives is useless when there will be billions born after them
Fz09-cp3@reddit
This wasn't an accident.
Washingtonpinot@reddit
There is NO preventative COVID-19 vaccine. All of the existing vaccines ONLY prevent more severe symptoms.
FFS people
Yd1891@reddit
I am in Ny and have Covid for the first time. I’m immune compromised with autoimmune diseases so I had to go to the er for the first few days. It’s not the worst thing I’ve been through but for a virus it’s definitely kicking my ass.
wyocrz@reddit
Good enough for me. I'm recently jabbed, don't otherwise give a shit.
CT868920@reddit
Ohh so scary let’s go hide and put our masks on
Dave-and-Buddy@reddit
Speed009@reddit
man anyone else just over 2026 at this point fuck
austin06@reddit
We were all saying that last year at the same time.
Super_flywhiteguy@reddit
Yep. Im putting the Christmas tree up already. Im speed running this year.
blagablagman@reddit
Uh no, cling to every day, the future is death.
forestcridder@reddit
I've said this every year since 2019.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I know! It's only spring..... 😭 can't we have a least a little break this year?
Odii_SLN@reddit
do covid tests show positive for this?
attilathehunn@reddit
Rapid antigen tests have a high false-negative rate on the first few days of infection. You have to keep testing once a day for a few days to really rule out covid. I read some people only got a positive test on day 8 of symptoms.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Yes, you should see a positive result if you have it.
Smoke-Beef@reddit
And?
Purple_Season_5136@reddit
There's a new strain all the damn time. There's like 500 covid strains now. Who cares lol
Techn028@reddit
This is never ending because we had people suggesting to inject bleach or take horse dewormer.
WotanSpecialist@reddit
This is never ending because Covid is a respiratory virus with vectors across all known mammals it comes into contact with. There was never any chance of eradicating it, stop spreading misinformation.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
The horse dewormer is the thing that really throws me. Yes, Ivermectin is sometimes prescribed in cases of COVID, but it's only neccesary if your symptoms present a certain way, and your health condition includes specific comorbidities. However, instead of going and getting a real prescription for it from a doctor, people went to livestock and farm equipment stores and purchased horse Ivermectin!
People.... don't do this!!!!! Do not put animal medicine in your human body! Are you a horse? Are you a monogastric herbivore with horse metabolism? No? THEN DON'T TAKE HORSE MEDICINE!!!! It's not dosed for you! It's not formulated for you! You are not a horse! You don't take horse medicine, and horses don't take people medicine! Having the same active ingrediant DOES NOT mean it is either safe or effective for you when it's formulated for different species! Like, WT actual F?
Even worse, the fish Ivermectin people! Also, the fish Amoxicillin people! Are y'all fishes!? Do y'all plan to put that medicine in your bathtub and absorb it through your scales? No? THEN DON'T TAKE FISH MEDICINE!!!!
Sometimes I truly am amazed at the level of risk stupid people are willing to take.
Unhappy_Analysis_906@reddit
It is interesting that ivermectin actually does have profound positive but very specific indication for treatment, and people treat it as a religious cure or religiously useless depending on their politics
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
They way people are capable of turning medicine into a partisan issue is astounding. Ivermectin just does what it does. Chemistry does not care about politics.
2quickdraw@reddit
Shhh. Let them.
United_Intention_323@reddit
There was no way to ever eradicate Covid. You know this.
Banned4Truth10@reddit
Quick everyone take experimental drugs and when you still get sick tell everyone it would have been worse!
1derF@reddit
Explains why almost every nurse, doctor, hospital employee etc is wearing a mask….. but when asked “Is there something going around?” They answer “Oh no I haven’t been feeling well.” Or something similar to not cause the fear that went with the other covid. Time to start doing the mask, hand sanitizer and the rest. Wait I never really stopped.
_WeAreFucked_@reddit
Apparently the previous variants weren’t doing their job or were they just fine tuning…they can COVID deez nutz.
JoePesci_TheGod@reddit
drillkjh@reddit
Who gives a shit
7o7A1@reddit
yet another distraction from the commie wealth transfer and destruction of human liberties
DefendOurRepublic@reddit
DissedFunction@reddit
so.....just a reminder....covid isn't the flu. covid does systemic damage each time you get it.
because the epstein class doesn't want to spend $$ to help peons like us, they told us it was just a cold and to get back to work. they also told us it wasn't airborne. it's airborne.
the way to visualize covid is to look at a room in a house or store and imagine how many people in there before you've arrived as well as while you are there were/are smoking a cigarette. So how much smoke is there wafting and drifting in that space. If it's an elevator or small room with no circulation, it would be pretty smoky. visualize the risk and wear a real mask in those areas.
remember, the epstein class doesn't need as many of us as they used to. AI is coming and prolly a recession and/or stagflation. there's no huge incentive for them to spend $$ on studying long covid, what it is, how to help us. we're on our own and our best course is to not get this silent long term killer.
Hopefully some time soon we might go back to a govt that at least pretends to care about the people electing them.
cHaNgEuSeRnAmE102@reddit
Hi. I’m just getting over Covid. My sinuses were so clogged/backed up, I had a headache for two weeks straight. NOTHING was helping it. Cold/flu medication didn’t even touch it. Didnt even touch the fever. I seriously thought I was dying for two weeks there.
DocMonty8@reddit
Yeah the immunity thing has me worried too. Been taking meo nutrition beetroot daily for cardiovascular support since my doc said it helps with oxygen circulation. Hopefully that plus masking helps if this variant hits hard.
ultravioletdemi@reddit
I feel like I finally just got over long covid after seeing a specialist for two years.
NorthernPassion2378@reddit
What a time to be alive... At this rate, I doubt I'm going to make it past this decade.
attilathehunn@reddit
OP why did you not mention long covid at all in your text? That's like the biggest danger from covid, far more than the stuff you talked about. 10% of covid infections cause long covid. Anyone can get it (30% had no pre-existing conditions). There is no cure and no evidence-based treatments.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I simply didn't think about it at the time. You are correct, long COVID is a risk, and a very good reason to protect yourself even if you have no existing comorbidities.
Here2Dissapoint@reddit
Long Covid is BS
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Long COVID is well documented, and is a real clinical condition.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351
It wouldn't be the first virus (or even bacteria for that matter) that can cause long term symptoms, or stay alive in the body for a long time, even for decades.
A good example of this is Chicken Pox, (Varichella virus). If you contract Chicken Pox, even if you are very young when you get it, it can stay alive in your body until you are well into old age, and then suddenly reactivate and cause Shingles.
Long term Lyme's disease can also cause life long symptoms. For some people, for reasons we don't completely understand, Lyme antibodies can become over active and cause autoimmune syndrome.
We aren't yet sure exactly why COVID-19 leaves some people with long term effects, and not others. We do know that for those with long COVID the primary symptoms are often extreme fatigue, anosmia (damage to the sense of smell that leaves a person partially or completely unable to smell), heart palpitations, and kidney damage.
It's not fun.
totmacher12000@reddit
Great!!!!!!!
deadlandsMarshal@reddit
This makes me so tired I'm listening to Information Society's, Don't Be Afraid album on repeat.
Ozar Midrashim for a sample.
30sec2midknight@reddit
Oh for fuck sake. Covid is the new flu or common cold, it’s here, it’s not going anywhere, get used to it.
Here2Dissapoint@reddit
…welcome to having a cold
Normal_Ad_6645@reddit
I don't give a fuck anymore.
Reform-Reform@reddit
Isn't it like this for every variant? This is what something said here https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1s2ld7e/comment/oc8wdzb/
'Not new, it was first identified in 2024 and was confirmed in the US in June 2025. The fact that it didn't spread like wildfire like the old 'new variants' should put things in perspective. It's not something to lose sleep over. Also worth noting that the few identified people who were hospitalized survived and had other health conditions that would make any other virus more harmful to them.'
grannyhex23@reddit
What a decade to work in a field that requires my brain to not be fog. It was already so much fun to work twice as long to keep up with my past self so I wasn't too broke to afford the healthcare that doesn't even really help with this
AccordingCabinet5750@reddit
Wow. 70 to 75 percent unique genetic profile is pretty crazy. Most current vaccines won't do anything, keep your elderly family members safe.
DepartmentFalse9838@reddit
Can this happen naturally or does it indicate that it is laboratory made?
Unhappy_Analysis_906@reddit
It happens in all, but this much variability in the tranmission vector is uncommon outside of very young viruses. So, either this is novel genetically in that it just emerged altogether (pretty unlikely), or it was synthesized.
It was synthesized.
AccordingCabinet5750@reddit
Happens naturally to most diseases, i.e. the common cold, flu.
attilathehunn@reddit
N95 or FFP3 masks cant be evaded by covid's evolution. Anyone can get long covid regardless of age or previous health.
fleetingwords@reddit
70 to 75 genetic changes. I assume that means in amino acids, so about a 2 percent change. Still alarming though.
Moobosh@reddit
Nobody gives a shit
jrawk3000@reddit
This happens every year. This isn’t really new or odd.
VastRefrigerator7237@reddit
Seriously, we’ve had the yearly flu forever. This is no different. But I guess it’s just a coincidence that the flu disappeared in 2020-2021.
down_by_the_shore@reddit
Infections from things like the flu and RSV are outpacing pre Covid levels and they’re increasing every year. People are getting sick more frequently and more severely. Any infection can potentially damage your immune system; COVID is especially likely to permanently damage your immune system and organs.
VastRefrigerator7237@reddit
I wonder how many of them got the shot
vezwyx@reddit
Good call. I wonder how many of the millions of people who fucking died to covid might still be alive if they got the shot
VastRefrigerator7237@reddit
Right, the same shot that doesn’t prevent COVID or stop from spreading to anyone else. I can’t believe people are still this gullible.
vezwyx@reddit
Citation needed 🤭
FigTraditional6658@reddit
Flu reduced due to social distancing and a step up in hygiene practices, numbnuts.
COVID isn't the flu, it takes 2 seconds to read up on how much more serious it is
VastRefrigerator7237@reddit
😂
vezwyx@reddit
Covid is significantly more severe and has longer-lasting aftereffects than the flu. This is like saying a paper cut is no different from chopping your finger off
down_by_the_shore@reddit
And every year is a bit different? No? People are getting sick more frequently and more severely every year. COVID is really good at adapting to its environment. Mutations, new strains, and waves aren’t exactly predictable. Hospitals are already inundated and crumbling, around the globe but especially in America. With the impending energy crisis, people will only be more impacted by this. The cost of everything will skyrocket - that includes medication and medical equipment. People will become more desperate and do more risky behavior to get the income they need to survive. It doesn’t have to be new or odd for this to be important and relevant.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Yup. I work in healthcare, and nothing else at all seems to mutate so fast, have so many ways it can present, and be so variable in how it makes people feel. It's barely predictable, but we have the good fortune of many healthcare and virology specialists busting their butts to do the best they can at predicting and preventing it. Unfortunately lack of funding is becoming an issue now. It was very tough to get an effective vaccine developed for this season. I am worried that next season we will even fewer resources for creating and distributing immunity. Hospitals will get too full again, so people will die again. We went through a giant pandemic that exposed every single weakness in our healthcare system, but the most critical issues have not been resolved, or have become worse.
jrawk3000@reddit
What are you talking about “it was very tough to get an effective vaccine developed for this season”???
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
A lot of the funding was reduced, a lot of leadership was removed without being replaced, and a lot of policy changed, all around the same time. The influenza vaccine has a deadline for development each year. If we don't come up with something effective fast enough we will be late distributing it and administering it before flu season hits. This could cause a massive amount of cases of influenza that could have been prevented, so it defeats the point of even having a new vaccine for the year at all if it will miss vaccinating anyone before at least mid flu season.
Most flu vaccines are pretty similar to the last flu vaccines, and we know that Influenza A and Influenza B will probably be around each time. Logic would say that in that case we could use the previous years formula..... but we can't. The vaccine expires at the end of 1 year. It can be illegal in some circumstances to even keep that inventory around. There is a moment each year where the previous year's vaccine are all shipped away to be destroyed, because, obviously, injecting someone with am expired liquid could be all kinds of killer dangerous.
So, each year virologists work with the AMA and FDA to design, test, prove, and implement a new vaccine. We need to know what strains are the most common, and most deadly, this time around. It changes from year to year as influenza mutates quickly. That didn't really happen this year. The policy/leadership/and funding changes crippled the typical workflow that gets these things done. We came closer to being late than is at all typical. People in health care had just gotten rid of their entire vaccine stock, no more of the previous years vaccine was able to be purchased because it had all been destroyed. Submitting that we use the exact same formula as the previous year was proposed, but there wasn't the kind of system back in place yet to get it approved.
In the end, some absolutely outstanding professionals stepped forward to impliment a new process at the last second. We did end up approving a formula, but through a different group than previously had the authority for approval. We did receive shipments later than is ideal, but still before flu season, and by mid flu season a fair amount of people had been immunized.
The TLDR version is this: The system is underfunded, understaffed, disorganized, and is now operating in a slightly new way. Because this was all very chaotic we almost missed the opportunity properly predict which strains should go in the vaccines, and getting it approved with enough time for it to do society any good. We made it by a hair.
jrawk3000@reddit
You’re dramatizing the politics of this. Selecting a strain for the COVID vaccine last year was challenging because of the different variants circulating the time of selection. However the vaccine was still effective.
You are correct about the challenges for flu vaccine selection and manufacturing. But that’s not the topic here. Moreover, hopefully an mRNA flu vaccine will be approved this year, which presents to opportunity to bypass the problems with current flu vaccines.
I am in no way advocating or supporting the current HHS administration and the circus going on at the FDA and ACIP. However the fact still remains that Americans did have access to an effective COVID vaccine last season, and the biggest challenges to bringing it to market was the FDA and ACIP circus, NOT the science and manufacturing techniques used to do so.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I don't recall talking about politics here. I lived this moment as a professional who specifically works with vaccines, and immune disorders. I work as a Pharmacy technician with national certification, and vaccination certification. My career has involved extensive work compounding medication for extreme immune disorders and enzyme related diseases. My colleagues are nurses, doctors, pharmacists, chemists, and biologists. The vaccine manufacturing process is so inmeshed with my job that I receive constant communication regarding it from both a state and federal level. It's my job to prepare, administer, and maintain inventory of vaccines. I, and all my colleagues, regardless of our very different political beliefs, were very concerned as this was happening. Regardless of what party is involved, it is a very bad idea to remove funding for research and development for vaccines, especially at exactly the time in which a critical development stage occurs. I assure you, I attended several emergency and planning meetings with people with far more authoritative credentials than my own, where we discussed this at length.
A lot of overtime, systemic restructing, and sheer fooking will went into producing an effective vaccine on time this year.
jrawk3000@reddit
I work for a vaccine manufacturer. I can assure you politics are the primary issue in the supply of vaccines to the US at this time, and last fall. There are inherent issues with flu manufacturing and the timelines it requires. But this is not a problem for mRNA (COVID) vaccines. OPs statement that it was very tough to get an effective vaccine developed for this season (are they referring to the ‘25-‘26 or ‘26-‘27 season?) is simply not true, especially as they are throwing out research funding cuts. There is little research funding required for flu and covid vaccines at this time- the vaccines are already developed and changing statins from year to year is a wheel that is already greased. The absolute biggest barriers facing COVID and flu vaccines struggle access today is politics.
My point is effective vaccines have been and will continue to be available as long as the FDA doesn’t get in the way.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
I'm talking about 2025/2026 rounds, for both COVID and Influenza. The difficulty seemed to occur, in both cases, at the approval point, and as a result of uncooperative and ill informed federal leadership. I do recall there being significantly more strain on the approval process for the influenza vaccines than the COVID vaccines. The FDA refused to meet regarding which strains would be recommended for vaccines formulated for the upcoming season. This is what I recall happening surrounding the manufacturing of influenza vaccines: https://respiratory-therapy.com/disorders-diseases/infectious-diseases/influenza/fda-cdc-cancel-flu-vaccine-advisory-meetings/
With COVID I recall that there was a struggle during the approval process that involved age and comorbidity restrictions, which caused a time of being unsure if that meant we would not be allowed to vaccinate people who were under 65 with no comorbities, if it would require a prescription to do so, if we would need diagnosis codes for said comorbidities to run them through insurance, or if COVID vaccines would now require a prior authorization. Additionally we became very uncertain how much would be manufactured, how much inventory we would be allowed to order and receive, or how many people we would be vaccinating.
(In the end nothing seems to have come from this proposed policy change. We are still slinging COVID shots to anyone who asks for them all day long.)
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/fda-approves-updated-covid-19-vaccines-for-fall-2025-restricts-eligibility-to-high-risk-groups
Simultaneously, a sizeable amount of funding was removed for research and development of mrna vaccines specifically, with the FDA claiming that those vaccines do not protect against the viral strains for which they are administered. (That is entirely false.) This was extremely troubling, and put us in doubt of how many manufacturers would be unable to produce an adequate supply, or if they might be unable to develop anything at all. This felt especially threatening regarding the urgency for producing critical vaccines in a timely manner. How would research and development happen if the funds to do so weren't there? (I still don't know how this part of the conundrum was solved, or if it will only begin to matter in future seasons as companies run out of federal funding.)
https://www.hhs.gov/press-room/hhs-winds-down-mrna-development-under-barda.html
So to clarify what I meant above, it was very tough to get an effective COVID vaccine developed for the year, not because vaccine manufacturers had any problem with knowing how they would formulate them, but because significant funding to do so was removed, and because, at the time, policy regarding administration appeared that it would be restricted.
My understanding is that the influenza vaccine took an incredible amount of bending over backwards to create this time around. Some good people pushed really hard to get around the CDC and FDA conspiratorial network of anti-vaccers.
Forgive me if my explanatiom was garbled, or my communication poor.
Thank you, btw, for doing what you do! Hero really is the correct word for people in your line of work! So many people are not dead today, because they had access to vaccines. Every day I get to help people survive and be healthy necause of what you do. My indusyry leans on yours heavily, and you all are a true pillar of civilized society. There aren't adequate words to describe my level of eternal gratitude, both professionally and personally.
down_by_the_shore@reddit
Not OP, but it’s been difficult to find effective flu and COVID vaccines, especially since Trump (and RFK Jr) took office. Illnesses like the flu and COVID are constantly changing and adapting. The more people get sick, the more likely there are to be mutations. In this scenario (which is the reality we are all living in currently,) vaccines become less efficacious because they were not created to protect against the new strains. RFK Jr has dismantled many of America’s safeguards that were designed to meet these challenges.
jrawk3000@reddit
What are you taking about “find effective flu and covid vaccines.” We literally have the most advanced vaccines humans have ever seen. The covid vaccine last season was absolutely effective. Flu vaccines struggle because of the manufacturing timelines required than can cause the strain selection to be off. However the flu vaccines struggle offered last fall was still effective in reducing severe disease, which is the point.
The_Original_Miser@reddit
Not only every single weakness in healthcare, but if I may be so bold, every single weakness in society as a whole.
veri_sw@reddit
I've been sick like 4-5 times this winter, which is crazy. I wonder if I've had this one already.
sololegend89@reddit
Oh okay well then we should ignore it completely, right?!
jrawk3000@reddit
We don’t need to get dramatic or scared about a new variant circulating.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Yeah. Unfortunately it is the new reality. The dumb virus is endemic now. Better prepared than scared I say. Tryin' to give folks a heads up so they can adjust as neccesary.
b20339@reddit
It's the cold virus. It's always been around and has always been mutating. Jfc
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Correct that they're related, but COVID-19 is not the cold virus, which is called Rhinovirus. It's in the same family, and travels through the body simillarly, but is not the same. So, you're right that it's similar, but they are similar the way a house cat is similar to a mountain lion.
Rhinovirus is a pansy virus, weak and easily managed. You have to be elderly or immunocompromised to be very sick from it. The only likely way to die from it is if it weakens you enough to cause a secondary infection, like Pneumonia. The common cold does not cause a fever, and persistant violent cough is unlikely. The nose runs, and the coughing is wet. The most likely complication is a sinus infection because of all the wet goop. This virus is like a house cat that is hissing and scratching but stands a near zero chance of wounding a human, let alone killing it.
COVID-19 is the second varient of known SARS viruses. (The first of which was developed in a lab as a bioweapon.) For healthy people it often manifests similarly to influenza, although it is not related to the flu at all. Fever, dry cough, and moderate to sever body pain can occur. None of these can be caused by the common cold. If comorbidities are present, or complications arise, COVID-19 can cause SARS, Accute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. This can be dealy, it is the sympton for which the original SARS causing virus, SARS-CoV-1, (COVID-19 is SARS-CoV-2), was designed to cause. SARS is easily deadly, and requires hospitalization. In truly terrible cases like this the patient can develop ARDS, Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. This is almost always deadly, causing the patient to suffocate, or even technically "drown" as their lungs fill with fluid and blood. This virus is like a mountain lion. The chances of a mountain lion choosing to kill you might not be very likely, but if it does come for you it can easily mangle you, and might very well kill you, unless you are well armed. (In this metaphor the weapon stands for drugs like Paxlovid that can treat severe COVID-19.)
So, while being in the same family as the common cold, (Coronaviruses), a little bit of difference between viruses make a whole lot of difference in how much punishment they can inflict upon you.
b20339@reddit
Thank you for a very thoughtful and informative reply instead of being a jerk.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
You're always welcome, I'm here to help! Virology/immunity isn't intuitive. There's really no reason to expect most people to know a lot about it, and they're not responsible for knowing anyway. Medical staff are. We went to school for this, and many smart people failed to graduate. Smart questions, like why two really similar viruses aren't the same kind of threat, are awesome! It gives me the chance to explain. Conclusions that seem logical can sometimes be wrong, because science is weird and nature is insane. SARS-CoV-2 and Rhinovirus look the same, move the same, share the same family, and yet, because some terrorists in a lab somewhere thought it would be a good idea, SARS-CoV-2 comes with a full arsenal of special-grade weaponry, where Rhinovirus is only carrying a stick.
Keep asking questions! It's good for you. It's good for everybody.
shadowndacorner@reddit
How can you still not understand what covid is atp? Jfc.
b20339@reddit
Yes coronavirus is one of the many viruses that have grouped into the cold but guess what it's just a cold . I don't care down vote all you want get all your friends to do it I don't really care
SlyWhitefox@reddit
This guy got COVID so many times he has brain damage, let's all point and laugh at the person who can't differentiate illness. Chest pain is all the same to me, heartburn and heart attacks are the same too but the woke moralists won't tell you that
F0xtr0tUnif0rm@reddit
Some colds are coronaviruses. Covid is also a coronavirus. Kind of like how Scotch and bourbon are both whiskeys. But bourbon sure as shit ain't scotch. They are related but two different things. Hope this helps.
Perfect_Caregiver_90@reddit
Aw man. Omicron sucked. The headache with that one was awful. Like, the actual headache. Juggling projects and logistics as everyone around me collapsed into puddles of coughing sadness was a different type of headache.
Hey, maybe with global collapse and rising nationalism these illnesses will go back to being regional concerns. No silver lining like that? Damn.
Opposite_Piece1231@reddit
This strain was actually investigated 3 months ago according to a paper released in China. Did it leak?
PrettyGalactic2025@reddit
My husband and I just got Covid last month. It was 7 days of hell. My husband had a lasting cough for weeks. Keep protecting yourself as much as possible!
ConsiderationNew6295@reddit
Since I started my cold and flu supplement regimen during the pandemic (after I had an adverse reaction to the recommended preventive care), I rarely get sick. When I do it’s short and mild. I swear by them now. Pull the levers you can.
retromoonbow@reddit
What supplements do you usually use?
ConsiderationNew6295@reddit
Vits D3 and K2 NAC Nattokinase Zinc
If infected I add Quercetin, Bromelain, Vit C
I have a cheap steam sauna from Amazon. I’ll do that if I’m exposed or at first detection of a sniffle/scratchy throat.
This regimen has done me right.
nachosquid@reddit
Not the person you asked, but I'm a big believer in elderberry.
DuckworthSockins@reddit
Last time I forgot my childhood trauma from the brain fog, maybe I can completely go veggie this time around 🤞
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
Did you re-remember it later? Just curious
DuckworthSockins@reddit
Remember what?
Live_Ganache_7749@reddit
In other news… the flu produces a new strain each year
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Sometimes several. It's a real b*tch.
Far_Out_6and_2@reddit
If it gets me it gets me
kl2342@reddit
Now now, don't beat around the bush - masking is the best way to prevent exposure, short of not going out at all. Certainly more effective than hand sanitizer
Ihateveryonequallyho@reddit
Kinda hope it kills me this time lol but it won't and I'll continue having to deal with this bullshit reality.
suchathrill@reddit
OP, can you please edit your description so that it explicitly states that it's BA.3.2? (Since that's apparently what it is.) That would be really helpful for those of us who are cautious about clicking on links. Thanks.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
No problem, can do!
Ok-Goal-8767@reddit
3 months from now no one will remember this and a new variant will come out that will do nothing.
attilathehunn@reddit
Except for those who catch it and become permanently disabled from long covid. It's not rare but actually pretty common. 10% of covid infections cause long covid.
msomnipotent@reddit
I'm just starting to recover from getting it almost a week ago. I was vaccinated and have an autoimmune condition. I went from feeling like I had a bit of a cough to winding up with a 104° fever and in urgent care for a breathing treatment within 12 hrs. Paxlovid helped a lot, but boy is it expensive.
So thanks, croupier at the roulette wheel in the Luxor last week that moved his mask and leaned into my face to ask a basic question while he was sick. Next time just point to what chips you want to give someone.
attilathehunn@reddit
Consider wearing a N95 or FFP3 mask too. That's the biggest thing you can do to protect yourself. Anyone can get long covid but having an autoimmune condition places you at higher risk.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Who goes to a casino when they have COVID? That's some hard core gambling addiction right there. Sorry you had to encounter that jerk. I'm glad you're recovering. Autoimmune diseases really take COVID up a tier on the sucky scale, don't they?
msomnipotent@reddit
The croupier is the employee that runs the roulette wheel. I'm assuming he had to make a decision to either miss work or pay bills, which I do have a lot of sympathy for, but he really did not need to move his mask to talk to me. He could have just pointed to the colored chips or the $5 chips and I would have told him what I wanted.
I'm mad at myself for not wearing my own mask, but he would have blown his germs into my eyes anyway.
No_Minute_4789@reddit (OP)
Oh, I see. It'd be nice if employers would give workers time off for literally being infected with a contagious and potentially deadly virus. The modern world is moderately dystopian.
molly_mcc8@reddit
Only thing to protect against this is a mask, straight up. Anything else is a waste of time
attilathehunn@reddit
Yep. When covid appeared the world changed forever. 2019 is never coming back. We now have a virus that causes brain damage and is incredibly infectious, you can get it by walking past someone on the street.
Terminated_Entropy@reddit
Wellp time to roll the dice and die I suppose.
attilathehunn@reddit
Just wear a N95 or FFP3 mask.
Covid is a lot more likely to make you permanently disabled with long covid, as opposed to killing you. 10% of covid infections cause long covid.
Big_Issue8640@reddit
It’s the American way just don’t forget to shout FREEDUMB at the right time!
Terminated_Entropy@reddit
Itll be a pretty muffled freedumb behind my mask.
slowpoke2018@reddit
On long enough timeline all of us lose
So yes, count me in + one who's had a chronic cough since returning from Costa Rica in '22 with COVID
PoorClassWarRoom@reddit
It never went away.
Slacker_75@reddit
Thank god we all took the vaccine and 6 booster shots!!
Eccentricgentleman_@reddit
Hell yeah, ready for some telework.
terrierhead@reddit
Sorry. Acknowledging Covid is politically unacceptable, so off to the office with you. Be sure to come in if you are sick so you don’t run out of PTO. /s for that last part, although it is why people get combined vacation and sick leave as PTO. It’s incentive to come to work sick and infect everyone else.
Eccentricgentleman_@reddit
wait... Wait! I take it back! MAHA! MAHA, RFK! GIVE ME THE COKE, I'LL SNORT IT OFF A TOILET SEAT TOO!
Ok-Comedian-9377@reddit
That’s the spirit. Wishing for empty roads here
terrierhead@reddit
I’m bedridden with long Covid. Usually, I’m housebound, but things are especially bad. A family member just got back from an overseas trip. I’m relying on their mask to protect us. When I get Covid again, I want it to just take me out, please.
Soggy-Invite-2787@reddit
Pretty sure i got it two weeks ago in NZ. Woke up with a horrible cold flu but it was gone within 8 hours. Everything smelled like Indian food for a week.
GetGoatedYourself@reddit
Well, least I got plenty of toilet paper
DanYallSon@reddit
Next round coming
Gloomy-Percentage781@reddit
Nah
SpiritTalker@reddit
I was gifted with a rare autoimmune disease that left me unable to walk or do much of anything. Coming up on 2 years now, had to learn to walk again (but barely, and with mobility aids). Every day is a struggle and I had to RTO. Yippee!
modernsparkle@reddit
Okay, this makes more sense then…thought it was the nasty flu this year but my gut flora is like, still not back to normal & the exhaustion isn’t over either…just sore & tired & flu/tummy upset that lasted a whole week+, took me out a whole 40 hrs at work…and I mask TF up every time I’m out & at both jobs. Knocked me OUT
tennezzee88@reddit
Pretend_Aerie363@reddit
MagicStar77@reddit
Covid appearing again☹️
Redneckia@reddit
I'm not falling for this again
FatBlueLines@reddit
Jesus Christ not again
Killzone3265@reddit
i was waiting for the next big one to occur alongside all the new wars, people are still complacent, what's it really going to take?
Geriatric_Sloth@reddit
Oh no!!! Time to bring back the cure
https://youtu.be/t2FboQCrv8o?si=ODwiAyGKgzv3oPKs
psychophant_@reddit
I BLOW! THE WIND. OF GOD. TO YOUUUUUUH
Late_Sherbet5124@reddit
Burn!
Mission_Control9156@reddit
This song makes me ROFL and have flashbacks to when I was working in a COVID ICU simultaneously. I should probably talk to my therapist about it.
EternalNewCarSmell@reddit
Oh, so that's what I just had.
I basically never get sick unless it's a goofy flu strain, or more recently covid. Already had influenza B this season, so I think I know what it was this time.
AjitPaiLover@reddit
Covid sometimes can suck. So does the flu. War is a lot worse.
dashingsauce@reddit
2026 vaccines? lol oh
MichaelMidnight@reddit
here we go again...
SoftballLesbian@reddit
You may wish to read up on the Canadian experience with the last SARS outbreak.
SARS in Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia https://share.google/IP8O9vcrU6b3s0o4g