Countries That Won't Participate In Eurovision 2026 & Their Reasoning. What do you think?

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Adventurous-Sir5301@reddit

Why the fuck does Israel participate?

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Sugar_Short@reddit

Come on, what can be more European than israel?

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So basically we have four EUROPEAN countries boycotting the Eurovision because the organization refuses to ban an Asian country that has been committing a genocide for over 70 years and that has started a war with Iran less than one month ago.

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David_liz@reddit

Go to say tho, 70 years and managed to genocide just 0.03% (yes check that yourself) is pretty shitty, at this rate it will take over 30,000 years to finish the job.

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Madcat00@reddit

https://blog.richmond.edu/livesofmaps/files/2023/12/Picture1.jpg

30000 years ? This is how ethnic cleansing and invasion looks like.

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Potential_Resist1487@reddit

Well math would work if genocide only happened when populations are mass murdered when it you do not need killings to count as genocide

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David_liz@reddit

If you dont need killing to count as genocide than that word as no meaning anymore, it's just a way to say "bad thing happening to people"

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Potential_Resist1487@reddit

It does have a meaning, you just don’t know the meaning, decided that is only mass murder and preferred to be ignorant as looking it up by yourself is way too much work

Here you have the definition used by the United Nations for example https://www.un.org/fr/node/218413

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David_liz@reddit

Great! so by that defenition:
"with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"

The math actually supports this is incorrect because if the intent is to "destroy in whole or in part" than we can agree that it would take at least a few thousand years at the current rate which would be ridiculous, there is no intent.

Also, this assumes the Phalestinians only live in Gaza, which they dont, todo any of these you would need to do the same to the ones in the west bank - never happend, and to the ones that have Israeli citizenship - never happend either.

So even by that definition it does not work out.

As a side note I think that that definition does more harm than good to any actual victims of genocide as proving intent is an impossible standard, You know, unless you write it on your flag, like Hamas does.

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AmbitiousSympathy665@reddit

The claim about genocide from any serious, legal authority only is about the gaza war from 2023-onwards, so you're already wrong there. And if you want to go into which countries are really asian there are plenty of candidates here.

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flying_bed@reddit

Nah this is a safe anti-Zionist place you'll get your ups, here is one from me bro

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thatMrGecko@reddit

99% certain our reasoning is dishonest

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DenyDerpy@reddit

If the turks participate in eurovision, it would be more difficult for the west to support zionist doğs when it attacks türkiye xd

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NeroToro@reddit

Yeah we're the last ones to complain about the voting system, we always give Azerbaijan 12 points no matter how good or bad the songs are and vice versa.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

Everybody does that.

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SarcasmRevolution@reddit

Belgium and the Netherlands are really the only exception to this rule…

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

I didnt memorize every country, but don't they have favorite countries of their own? I mean nords love hugging each other, Greece and Cyprus same, than the Portugal-Spain-France love triangle kinda happens, these are the ones I remember.

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SarcasmRevolution@reddit

Well, it’s more like brothers and twins that are supposed to “belong” together.

But Belgians and Dutchies are severe frenemies. Or rather, we like them and think they talk funny, Belgians hate us. The Belgians succesfully seceded, but the Netherlands still “won” the battle by being economically and historically dominant ever since.

Like, many people in NL don’t even know about that war at all, vice versa it’s quite a thing.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

huh, I thought Netherlands was the seceding side in 1830.

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Botanical_Director@reddit

Same as the 3 countries in north Africa, they haven't participated in like a decade if not more.

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Tjazeku@reddit

Ours too, in reality the broadcaster doesn't have the funds to justify financing participation and achieving nothing. It has nothing to with Israel, proved by the fact we withdrew from ICJ lawsuit against Israel.

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jakobx@reddit

Of course it was because of israel. They communicated this very clearly.

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cpefiwti@reddit

Did u think Israel spawned in 2023?

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Botanical_Director@reddit

Are you arguing that these countries didn't participate in Eurovision since the 80's just because of Israel?\^\^

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AlbaIulian@reddit

Only Morocco ever participated in North Africa, did badly and haven't bothered since. Algeria and Tunisia never joined.

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Botanical_Director@reddit

Even more stoopid to have them on this map then, thanks for the extra info

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WienClown@reddit

They’re still members of the EBU.

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darling1907@reddit

lebanon and tunis was going to, later they withdrew because of isreal's participation.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

Map contains the official reason, while we can speculate that Erdogan maybe found it too gay too, or other stuff, but Turkey really haven't participated since the voting system for Eurovision turned into a 2 tier system where multiple countries are automaticly qualify for the final contest. I also find it unequal treatment and I kinda support Turkey's withrawal from the contest under these conditions.

Every participant should equally share the financial burdens and equally have an opportunity in the final contest.

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Collanp@reddit

I also find it unequal but how is it such a big deal? Objectively, France and Italy would qualify either, Spain as well likely. That would just put other countries at risk of getting zero points or getting last. Sacrificing the UK and Germany for the self esteem of everything else looks pretty just to me. /s

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Kaamos_666@reddit

“Would qualify either way”, how do you know? Are you a clairvoyant?

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thatMrGecko@reddit

oh, I'm against the whole idea of eurovision from the start. it's extremely fun and I follow it to this day, but I sincerely believe it should be a private multinational organisation. ebu framework is ridiculous.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

I am not as familiar with it maybe as you, but I know it generally involves public broadcasting companies of different countries, so it is always connected to the state institutions. I dont know if they would like to give up this massive PR instrument to other companies.

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thatMrGecko@reddit

exactly, which means countries can (and often do) use eurovision as a vehicle for cultural propaganda. now, when that propaganda is "look how neat our traditional music sounds!", that's fine. but things go political all the time and I feel it sullies the experience a bit.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

Meh, just accept it as a PR tool as it really is and either distance yoursel, or try to enjoy whatever wacky or punk groups manage to make their way in to this circus once in a while. I dont really follow it but when a meme band manage to make a show in it I just enjoy it with the rest of the internet.

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barracuda4848@reddit

Your reason is best imo.

Rest are political or economical. You guys pointed at main problem with the competition itself. 100% agree with Turkey.

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Fair_Quality_3788@reddit

Its too gay, too sexy, too expensive.

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thatMrGecko@reddit

so you're saying that if only it was cheap...

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WitherCro2@reddit

It's a completely valid reason though

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darling1907@reddit

its kinda dishonest but not %99 percent. while participating TRT was sharing the cost like Big6. Yet It was getting more and more away from their likings. If you are paying some chunks of money to something, you would like to have a word about its politics right? I believe EBU diddnt allow this request and TRT decided not to join anymore thus not to spend any money on it. Since then ESC became more and more gay friendly and kinda showcase of LGBTi+ movements. And thats not something you can show on state television here in Turkiye. so if it wasnt 2013, after 2014 TRT was not going to join anyways in my opinion.

in each last editions there were rumours about return of the Türkiye, even if the return was successful, after these Israel shenanigans, TRT would withdraw again(which I would support as a decision) If there is no place for Russia, there is no place for Israel.

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PeroCigla@reddit

But if it was honest, I'd totally support it

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joriks@reddit

Eurovision is a woke shit show. Should be cancelled and that money spent for something useful.

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tusmuertostos@reddit

since when african countries participate in eurovision?/gen

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ShyHumorous@reddit

What about my favorite European country Australia, are they participating?

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moshiyadafne@reddit

Yes and is predicted by many to be in the grand finals after 2 years of not qualifying.

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mikrofonijaSBK@reddit

Well sure, now when jury is back in semis we will se back of Australia and Belgium in finals.

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Usual-Package7120@reddit

We have an excellent entrant (I'm also aussie lol) she's like the 'darling' of Australia and a good singer haha

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Stromovik@reddit

They were part of Britain, also they represent Euro love for genocide

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godric420@reddit

Yeah because only Europeans do genocide.? Nobody ever committed genocide or imperialism before the Europeans introduced it to them.

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Stromovik@reddit

No. But only Europeans managed to do it on continental level.

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CommercialImpress926@reddit

Really? No Chinese or Mongolians? Or Islamic caliphates? Huh that’s weird

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Quitelowquitetall@reddit

Looks at the Japanese, especially during WW2.... :(

Also, I'm sure that the American and African empires were completely peaceful and didn't absolutely wipe out their competition

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Capybarasaregreat@reddit

Are you including your fellow Estonians in that blame? Last I checked, your people and mine were subjugated and ourselves colonised and genocided during the time when other Europeans were doing that around the world.

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Stromovik@reddit

The current official postion is to praise 20th SS division recruited from locals during the only time that there was a plan genocide estonains as part of GeneralPlan Ost. ( they were chosen ones for germanization as the plan was to kill off less than half )

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Capybarasaregreat@reddit

So your best argument is coerced traitors? Do you blame all jews because of kapos and Group 13?

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godric420@reddit

You’re down playing the accomplishments of the Mongol Empire. They didn’t kill up to 2 million people and the Islamic golden age, in the sack of bagdad for you to shit on them.

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Stromovik@reddit

Australia has around 3 percent of native population, North America has also around 3 percent.

Mongols killed a considerable percentage of the world population. And last remrant khanate was taken over in 19th century.

But I would still give the medal to the bloody British

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Common_Source_9@reddit

They had their moments, yeah, but they have nothing on the chinese and the mongols and timurids.

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AdRevolutionary1673@reddit

Don't mind the Russian bot, spreading its "The West is the devil" narrative like usual.

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starxidiamou@reddit

Don’t mind him!? But he seems cool

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Virtual_Jump7770@reddit

Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are also participating, always have been

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TicketEffective2261@reddit

Estonia also is not i think

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salzigebreze@reddit

I honestly agree. its not fair why the „big 5“ qualify automatically without winning, without competing. not fair at all. turkiye got it right.

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Collanp@reddit

I agree. I think all countries should pay the same share and get the same opportunities to get to the final

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ephesusa@reddit

What do you mean Italy hasn’t participated for a decade.. they won it just few years ago

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unidentified1soul@reddit

Um, Italy's Maneskin won in 2021; they were awesome! I doubt that Italy only marginally cared.

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greasy-throwaway@reddit

The big 5 pay the vast majority of the contests cost, if they wouldn't finance it there'd likely be no Eurovision, they want something out of it though

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Trombone_legs@reddit

The gig 5 pay the money so it can go ahead every year. The broadcasters are going to continue paying of their own countries don’t get to even qualify.

Seems pretty fair unless there is another funding model agreed where all participating countries pay more.

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Sonasije@reddit

Eurovision is shit,I hope that sick gay bi trans political contest stops.... Maybe 15 yea ago it was something ypu could listen or watch but now I really hope it ends...

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Usual-Package7120@reddit

I still think it's unfair that Israel can compete (despite being in a war and also not being on the european continent) and Russia can't - and it's on the continent. Should be that both are banned or both are allowed, not separate rules. Guess that's why people are boycotting though so, good on them for realising this.

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Tight_Blueberry6382@reddit

Eurovision is unfair western Zionist slop which limits what individuals can do based on what there government does lol

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ChanclaTodopoderosa@reddit

First Georgian I see who doesn’t support Zionists

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ProudJury6765@reddit

do they usually support Zionism? Why? (Genuine Question)

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Shaolinpower2@reddit

A good chunk of their country is held hostage by Russia since 2008 war. They support whoever against Russia i assume. (Not so sure tho)

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ChanclaTodopoderosa@reddit

Generally yes, though I see more and more people rejecting it (younger population obv). a few Georgians told me that it’s because of having a very old Jewish community in their country (though I don’t see it as a valid reason, quite the opposite lmfao). Maybe they’re big investors too, I might assume because of my last trip to batumi - literally the biggest billboard I saw was on a casino and written in Hebrew, apart from many other signs in hebrew

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ProudJury6765@reddit

Damn I had no idea about them having a very old jewish community! You learn everyday about new things

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Lazmanya_Reshored@reddit

👏

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Alternative-Tie-4970@reddit

Bosnia and N. Macedonia lowk carrying the whole group

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Reasonable_Coach@reddit

Broke gang 🔥

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BlackCATegory@reddit

Iceland?

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arbataxmelody354@reddit

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Pohjaeestikaartidrdt@reddit

Oh hungary....

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Aggravating-Curve755@reddit

"Being too gay" 🤣

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alezio000@reddit

remember when eurovision was about who had the best voice and choreography?

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74C5@reddit

At least last year the one with the arguably best voice and choreography won.

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iamunabletopoop@reddit

For how bad the last few years have been I'm not even upset that we got these winners. Loreen and Nemo might not have been the favorites to win, but holy both are good. Also JJ is fantastic aswell and deserved to win

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shikana64@reddit

How old are you?!

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SituationRoyal6535@reddit

And then they let dirty peasants choose winners.

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Classic-Exit4189@reddit

Lowkey i agree with them. Eurovision is embarrassing.

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Hertje73@reddit

You prefer how it was before? Boring and grey?

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awjeezypeepsman@reddit

Unironically the good old days when the grandeur was minimal at best and so-called campiness was not shoved down our throats.

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MartianExpress@reddit

ESC was best when it didn't embrace American-style songwriting (minimalist arrangement, harmony seen as more important than melody, melodic movement (almost) exclusively in the vocal line, soul/rnb influence).

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Marizemid10371@reddit

Well it could pass as art then, now it's a totally kitch something aiming for provocation with few exceptions... And every year is getting worse.

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chaotebg@reddit

I mean the cringe is the charm of Eurovision.

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Aggravating-Curve755@reddit

Don't lie, you also love a bit of dancing on ice don't you

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lonelystar7@reddit

Lol Orban is such a snowflake. What is he afraid of? That he will actually feel something when hearing them? Ahahaha

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ThatOldCow@reddit

If it was just a bit gay then it would be fine!

/s

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Fer4yn@reddit

Rare Hungarian W.

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Odd-Organization-740@reddit

Tbf being gay or being a woman is one criteria that you can't win without. When has someone manly won that competition?

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nightflightto2525@reddit

If only Hungary had any gays or women :'(

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krmarci@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/k4qide/an_antigay_hungarian_politician_has_resigned/

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74C5@reddit

The male singers from Italy, Portugal and Sweden (2021, 2017 and 2015) are all straight. So are the televote winners in 2024 and 2023.

Interestingly, all other male gay singers (apart from the winner last year who simply had the most impressive voice) were eliminated in the semi-finals the last few years or received zero points from the public. Even the male winner in 2024 has actually been in a romantic relationship with a woman for years.

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Odd-Organization-740@reddit

I'm talking about aesthetic, not actual sexuality.

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74C5@reddit

We’ve had several male singers dressed very formally or plain (black suits, black trenchcoats or a simple white t-shirt) winning this decade (2025, 2019, 2017, 2015). Non-straight aesthetics by male performers were regularly punished with low televotes unless they had extraordinary singing voices backing them up.

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Alternative-Fill-799@reddit

Well if you realize that the ones openly homosexual don’t get votes, the point you made doesn’t make much sense. “You have to be gay or a woman to win”

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Strict-Sea-3412@reddit

Also Lordi in 2006

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Fluid-Scar-6020@reddit

Based!

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Defiant_Act_4940@reddit

Tbf it is very gay.

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Hertje73@reddit

The gayness saved Eurovision!

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Empty_Carrot5025@reddit

Indeed! Éljen Orbanisztán!!!

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Sparhelt718@reddit

Is it wrong though

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Fatih1911@reddit

that's viktor orban for you

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Significant_Judge008@reddit

It’s funny that Russia got banned from Eurovision for its invasion of Ukraine, yet Israel is still treated like royalty despite its genocide and occupation of Palestine

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StormRegion@reddit

It got officially banned, because the company responsible for broadcasting Eurovision in Russia was taken over by the government. Semantics, I know

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Life_Ad_4627@reddit

This company left themselves first, bcs of politics, should they just leave it as it is, waiting for glory owners to return?

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ZiKi1705@reddit

and Lebanon

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Significant_Judge008@reddit

Golan Heights in Syria as well

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SirIronSights@reddit

The more you hear about Israël the more you start to think that maybe they don't respect the spirit of Eurovision as much as the rest of us do....

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Marizemid10371@reddit

Isn't it quite ironic and huge hypocrisy? Shitheads through and through.🤮

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Significant_Judge008@reddit

Exactly

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witty_charade@reddit

Hungary is my new favorite country

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Dysfunctional_Cookie@reddit

Israel connecting people or something like that

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David_liz@reddit

Less competition :)

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Aggravating_Kick_459@reddit

Morocco not participating because of Israel is hilarious

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bosnanic@reddit

Hilarious that Russia is rightfully banned from Eurovision for invading Ukraine but Israel get's the okay to participate when it launched a bombing campaign against Iran plunging the entire middle east into war that on top of all the crimes they did in Syria, Lebanon, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.

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adamgerd@reddit

Just a thought but maybe because one was attacked and one is the attacker

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bosnanic@reddit

I didn't know Iran attacked Israel first let me see "The 2026 Iran war began on 28 February 2026, when Israel and the United States launched surprise airstrikes on multiple sites across Iran, including targets in Tehran"

Or like how When Assad fled Syria Israel launched 480 airstrikes within 48 hours and invaded the UN-monitored demilitarized buffer zone in Syria to secure more territory around the Golan Heights.

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Paithegift@reddit

Nice try. Assad would still rule Syria and murder his opponents to this day of it wasn't for Israel punching Hizballah in the throat and sticking it up to Iran. A-Sharaa and his cronies saw that Assad's allies are in shambles and took advantage, which they weren't able to achieve before because IRAN, Hizballah and Putin kept Assad's regime alive.

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bosnanic@reddit

So just not going to even try to defend or explain why Israel breaking the 1974 disengagement agreement by invading the UN-monitored demilitarized buffer zone in Syria was a good thing?

Weird almost like Israel destabilised the region as much as possible to push their expansionist goals...

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Paithegift@reddit

You defend first what Iran and Hizballah did in Syria and how it wasn't Bosnians, or other Europeans, or NATO, neither other Arab countries, nor the US, but Israel, that created the conditions for Assad's dictatorship to fail. Also defend how Lebanon has been held hostage for decades by Hizballah and Iran and how the government there only found courage to speak up and try reforms after Israel beat Hizballah enough, not any Muslim or Arab nation.

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bosnanic@reddit

Lmao yeah no defence of breaking international law and violating multiple peace treaty just "wuh abbout" it says a lot you can't even try to defend Israel's actions at best you are comparing them to Hizballah what great moral standards to be compared to.

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Sandn1bba@reddit

I convinced a 100 thinkers with one proof but I couldnt convince 1 ignorant with a 100 proofs. No point in arguing with an israel supporter as they will keep coming back to “eeh but 7 october KHAMAZ attack israel and started the war” while they ignore the fact that the colony has been infecting and killing the natives since ‘48

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Paithegift@reddit

That's what you are doing. Don't project on me my friend. I understand that you are probably a Muslim who was trained to hate Israel since before you could think for yourself though

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Pleasant-Feeling-644@reddit

Interesting to see Bosniak defending UN seeing how the did fuck-all in Srebrenica. UN also did nothing with Council Resolution 1701 in Lebanon so Hezbollah could bomb Israel no problem. Hezbollah also had plan to invade North Israel after October 7. Can you really blame Israel not trusting UN ?

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bosnanic@reddit

I am more inclined to hate the groups and leaders who violated the UN safety areas and mandated while killing civilians to achieve expansionist goals like Israel did.

I don't see how Hezbollah planning to invade via Lebanon is grounds for Israel to invade a confirmed non-militarized zone and bomb civilians in the area while then letting Druze rebels with Israeli military arms flood Southern Syria to prevent a proper response.

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Pleasant-Feeling-644@reddit

You don't see how ex al-Qaeda leader taking over unstable neighbor is problematic ? People thought syria gonna be isis country. It was all before al-Sharaa showed he is willing to be cordial to the west. Maybe Israel should have armed the Alawites too so they wont get killed in Sectarian violence, thanks god the Druze are safe

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bosnanic@reddit

So now you are changing your argument from "Hezbollah was going to attack" -> "well uhhh maybe Syria would have attacked" breaking a UN peace treaty and killing civilians over a hunch and no real intel sounds like something a terrorist state would do thanks for proving my point.

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Pleasant-Feeling-644@reddit

Changing what argument ? your first argument was oh my precious UN. I gave you examples how UN is useless and there more like Rwandan genocide, UN peacekeepers child rape and more, Why would anyone trust organization that show failure again and again ? Just because of "mah global word order" ?

Your second argument is my innocent ex al-Qaeda lead Syria that only did some sectarian massacres why would anyone ever be worried about it.

I do agree with you attacking Iran especially without concrete plan was a stupid idea

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bosnanic@reddit

I like that you are blaming the UN for Israel breaking the UN brokered agreement. You putting the Hutu militias and the VRS on the same level as Israel is not the winning move you think it is.

Your argument of "I have no proof that Syria was going to attack but uhhhhh they deserved to die" is a crap argument. Israel to this day has released 0 evidence showing the new Syrian government had any intentions to attack their positions in the Golan Heights. Israel broke a peace treaty and bombed civilians in a de-militarized zone i.e. committed a war crime on foreign soil.

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Pleasant-Feeling-644@reddit

Broke what peace treaty ? Israel never had peace treaty with Syria they still at war from 1967 to this day. And no 1974 disengagement agreement doesn't say anything about peace or ceasefire

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bosnanic@reddit

The Agreement on Disengagement between Israel and Syria, which was signed on May 31, 1974, provided for the continuation of the cease-fire already in effect and for the separation of opposing parties by a UN Peacekeeping Force.

Conducting a land invasion while bombing civilians is not upholding a cease-fire last time I checked. Israel broke a signed cease-fire and committed war crimes by targeting civlians.

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

Girl you are changing your statements with every blow of the wind. And with every reply you reach for another theme. If you are unable to defend your though then just don't mess with peole who are levels above you.

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

"murder his opponents"..... Let me see what does a president represent? Ahh yes his country, his people. And his opponents are logically opponents of his people and his nation......So idk what exactly didn't go into your head from all of that? You have grasping/comprehension disability or something?

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adamgerd@reddit

And we ignore Iran’s funding and support of Hamas and Hezbollah for years before? Is that not an attack?

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ProudJury6765@reddit

bro we get it. You are an ass kisser for Israel your comments are already proof enough

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

We usually ignore stuff that never happened. Basic Logic.

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bosnanic@reddit

Akin to saying "France funds the LNA in the Libyan civil war therefore France is at war with Libya" that's not how it works, every nation in the world funds and supports interest groups including Israel who funds the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen or their very open support for one of the largest American lobbying groups the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and Christians United for Israel.

Is Israel directly influencing American foreign policy against Iran not an attack by the same messure?

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adamgerd@reddit

Supporting an interest group in a country is equivalent to supporting terrorist groups against a country?

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bosnanic@reddit

So France arming and training LNA forces in Libya means France is in a direct conflict with Libya by your logic? Is the USA in a direct war with Russia for funding and training Ukrainian soldiers? Is Israel at war with Yemen via funding the PLC?

You not understanding the difference between funding foreign groups and direct war is something.

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spallettioutista@reddit

In effetti sono i contadini cisgiordani a picchiare e minacciare i coloni ebrei, o succede il contrario?

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

Who is the attacked one pretty please? Ukraine?

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Paithegift@reddit

Why you bring nuance and facts to their karma farming comment?

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Chris_Weezy123@reddit

Israel is a nominal western ally so that's why.

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mw2lmaa@reddit

Vienna here, this shit is in my city. 10 minutes walking distance from my home 😫

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kurwalover@reddit

I didn't know that north african countries were also invited to eurovision

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mw2lmaa@reddit

They're all EBU members. Morocco even participated once iirc.

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leorelis@reddit

you forgot Iceland lol (also boycotting over israel)

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Popular_Cap8269@reddit

Why is Israel participating?

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unidentified1soul@reddit

Well done, and Eurovision will feel it, having lost some of its largest sources of funds/support. Let Netanyahu pay Eurovision the lost funds & try to make up for the lost support.

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metokara09@reddit

🇲🇰 It's become too political and I'm glad we're not a part of it. That money could be put to better use.

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spallettioutista@reddit

La Rai con quei soldi potrebbe mandare quattro sfide della Serie A in diretta all'anno (non succederà mai)

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DoubleSynchronicity@reddit

What everyone needs to do is stop watching it, even talking about it. I know some Youtubers stopped making content about it because they are against it. All I know is Israel will get lots of booing again, more than last time.

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Solid_Ad1080@reddit

Not participating due to the high cost is such a macedonian thing to do

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Arten2x@reddit

I have difficulty explaining how little of a fuck I give.

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ExoticFortune2439@reddit

Russia is banned from Eurovision because of the invasion of Ukraine but Israel is allowed despite the slaughter of Gaza?

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Efficient-Impact3669@reddit

Israel, invasion, nationalistic song

And then you have Bosnia and Macedonia, crème de la crème, with no money, legends

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Th3Dark0ccult@reddit

Bulgaria's reasoning was the same for previous years, but now they misteriously found money.

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MartinBP@reddit

That was only the official reason. The real reason BNT didn't want to participate was the same as Hungary - the director found it too problematic for his taste.

I see you live in the UK but try to get your head out of the conspiracy theory gutter.

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Collanp@reddit

Can I ask what changed? Was the director replaced?

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Th3Dark0ccult@reddit

ok buddy, how about you stop assuming shit off of a single sentence, huh?

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Stunning_Tradition31@reddit

it’s not a mystery

the EBU probably gave either money or cut some costs for Bulgaria to participate because of the high number of countries that didn’t want to participate because of Israel

same case with Romania

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reallybi@reddit

Us too. Meh

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treba_dzemper@reddit

Macedonians are skint.

We owe the EBU and have absolutely no intention to pay.

We are not the same

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Last_Auslender@reddit

Well Public Broadcaster would pay but Serbian Entity owes 50M € to it, and they are broke.

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jamaljackson1@reddit

I'm very proud of my country 🇧🇦

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kodial79@reddit

Fuck Eurovision.

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gufted@reddit

Fuck the fucking fuckers

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No-Marsupial-4050@reddit

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Drunkendx@reddit

Irony is that israel did same as Belarus...

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Many-Rooster-7905@reddit

Ffs why dont we withdraw

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BigDogAlex@reddit

Tbh Croatia's entry this year is my personal favourite

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Flynko@reddit

Should've done so after the blatant robbery in 2024.

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Goggings@reddit

Nothing against gay people but eurovision is demonic. Sam smith kind of gay demonic

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Lucker_Noob@reddit

I see a (((common denominator))) there ...

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ImamTrump@reddit

Now we just need a BalkaVision and we’re set.

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

X factor adria was kinda close to that

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

Considering they removed all Pride symbolism despite parading queer people as national symbols just to attempt to cater to a few backwater countries, Eurovision can eat shit

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

What did they do to the 'my no 1' singer? 😱

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unk0wn8@reddit

Oh I didn't know they did that, maybe I will indeed watch it this year then

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

Lol enjoy watching all the gay people on stage then. Straights can't make crap and then complain

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CockamouseGoesWee@reddit

Lol enjoy watching all the gay people on stage then. You straights can't make shit and then complain

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marcyy_dbrl@reddit

Why North Africa is mentioned ?

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Easy_Structure1089@reddit

Members of ebu apparently

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Snoo55483@reddit

Rare hungary w????

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Vd1981@reddit

Being too gay 🤣

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sorealbin@reddit

???

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Upbeat-Luck8963@reddit

turkey and hungary being mega based

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Prometheus_1094@reddit

Honestly most of EU are bunch of Israeli bootlickers. Disgusting and horrible that I can even call myself part of a union where most countries will cheer Russia out of the competition within a week but will stay quiet.

Specially Greece, all friendly there. I hope if a war with turkey breaks, that we DO NOT help them. They can ask their Israeli friends then

Then Germany... No words... But ofc they would be the strongest supporters.

And about the rest, a bit of the same. All are too afraid to stand up to trump and Bibi.

I'm proud of my Spanish heritage and disgusted by the British one. But that is nothing new

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Financial-Loquat8386@reddit

Totally agree it's super gay.

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h_Bad_4748@reddit

Eurovision is fake and gay. Good for them!

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

Apparantly Slovenia is the only respectable balkan country🥱

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RestaurantBoring417@reddit

Not really a balkan country anyways, not poor & ultranationalistic enough

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the_sad_gopnik@reddit

W pfp

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justuniqueusername@reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

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Brafo22@reddit

Slovenia acting like they even had a chance 😭, if anything at least less wack songs, Bosnia has the only acceptable reason 💪

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the_TIGEEER@reddit

It's not about having a chance tbh. Everyone enjoys their country performaing in Eurovesion of the song is shit or not. I don't think I'll listen to it this year, it just doesn't feel the same with the Netherlands, Spain, and my country not participating.

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Brafo22@reddit

Let’s be honest you’ll watch it, imo the countries that won’t participate because of Israel should not comeback until the leadership changes or else they will look like hypocrites , Israel will be Israel even next year and they sure will participate

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Ancient-Ice-879@reddit

Let's be honest, all you can do is be dishonest as evident by lying about that Slovenian.

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the_TIGEEER@reddit

Let's be honest I'll completly forget about it like I did many times before probabbly be out doing something else when it's on or playing video games. Then I just won't look it up afterwards like I usually did.

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

Historical moment, the Netherlands finally got called big💪💪💪🦁🦁🦁

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the_TIGEEER@reddit

I kinda get what you're aiming at, but mate.. You're talking to a Slovenian..

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No-Specialist-1435@reddit

The most balkan reason ever. Corruption.

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unknownpersonno@reddit

Tell me you are not pig eater without telling me that you are not pig eater!

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unknownpersonno@reddit

Or leftie or gay/lesbian!

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LordCivers@reddit

It's a badge of honor you know. How proud are you to be a bigot ?

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

...what?

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

I honestly don't know what you mean😭

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

He is calling you a muslim because as we know, all proper christians go and fight for israel and lick its boots clean.

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userrr3@reddit

Which is a hilarious dog-whistle for Muslims in this context because Jews are also famously not pig eaters.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

Eh classic far-right, it doesnt need to fit in a description and like a liquid it will just try to fill in a momentary-shape, doesnt matter if it makes sense or not, it is just there to exist and find a place in the spotlight.

The pig-eater thing from far right sometimes remind me that Adolf was reluctant to eat it too, and generally he was leading mainly a vegetarian diet, half due to his vegetarian views but other half due to a stomach ulcer or something. This was actually used in WWII in the Middle East by the German intelligence as part of a psy-op to generate popularity with Muslim populations living under French and British colonial rules at the time. They purposefully spread an urban legend about Adolf being a secret muslim, pretending to be a christian to rule germany to fight against Brits-French and Hebrews. The effect of this psy-op still surfaces from time to time in the middle east, especially during heightened probleem terms with Israel, and I think it is fair to say there are a lot of people in these countries that still believe in it. The same anti-floride schizos you might come across in Western internet circles have this version in the muslim majority communities in the East.

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

omg I totally forget that I had to fight in the holy land and kill brown children for Bibi since I'm from a Christian country, sorry for forgetting unknownpersonno🙏

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unknownpersonno@reddit

I am against killing children and war, but what would you say about the mass terrorist attacks of muslims in Christmas Market! Why do they not directly attack israel but kill innocent people! Nevertheless is Netherland a Christian country anymore, you are covered in shit, stink everywhere. You are an arab country. Me was told i am muslim since i was born, but what i have in common with such a culture?!

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

I wanted to reply, but I feel like you've honestly gotten lobotomized by the Mossad to say this shit😭

I hope you get well soon and that Israel doesn't bomb the hospital you're recovering in🙏

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

You are getting there, now go and steal some muslim or christian child's candy or something. Everybody has to start at some point. You can do it to a christian, as israel does it too, so your have a lot of options to choose amongst.

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Peermeneer_exe@reddit

In all fairness, that children's candy was promised to Israel 3 thousand years ago

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unknownpersonno@reddit

I am not a Christian, but judging by the matter of how involved is a religion, you still live in middle ages.

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

I am an atheist, I am sure I would get a burning in both in europe and in today's Turkey in the middle ages so I am sure I dont ideolize that tim period, but keep trying schizoid.

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PavelKringa55@reddit

In your dreams.

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Vigmod@reddit

Not on the map: Iceland is also abstaining due to Israel's participation.

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No-Worth-6647@reddit

Well good for them. Why would a normal country want to participate in this hypocrite show anyway.

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oxingames@reddit

"due to politically themed songs" yeah ok bro 💔🥀🙏

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No_Row_8284@reddit

North Africa?

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itsmike_b@reddit

Based Hungary as always

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ArmThick7835@reddit

Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco all dont participate cause it's too LGBTQ friendly. Morocco has peace with Israel yet won't join.

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starxidiamou@reddit

I think more people should boycott it due to participation of the genocide-inflicting israelis

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MartinBP@reddit

Not all of us are insane and have a voter base of tetrorist supporters to please.

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starxidiamou@reddit

Are you saying terrorists as is in those who the Epstein class configured you to think, or those who actually and consistently terrorize innocent the world?

Sounds like you’re the insane one.

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Catman_192@reddit

Seriously, what is israel doing on eurovision, even if we exclude recent reasons, they are european on same level as some arab? Anyways most of the reasons actually sound reasonable for not participating.

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f00dot@reddit

Wait, there is a COST to participate? We are paying to enter?....

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PhantomO1@reddit

who do you think pays for everything? xD

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f00dot@reddit

It does make sense but it still hurts.

Isn't there sth like EU culture budget?

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PhantomO1@reddit

this is not an EU thing, as you can see from non-EU members participating

the EBU is an organization entirely separate from the EU

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f00dot@reddit

Thanks for the clarification. I guess the name EUROvision tricked me...

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74C5@reddit

For some public broadcasters the participation fee is lower than what they would have spent on an alternative tv program that they would have to produce otherwise if they didn’t take part.

If enough people watch the contest the revenue from advertisement alone could already be worth it. It’s why countries with very low interest like Slovakia withdrew because the low level of viewership didn’t make it cost-effective.

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Holiday-Step9703@reddit

Broadcasters do

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f00dot@reddit

Well on bulgaria the national TV is managing it so it's people's money after all

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MartinBP@reddit

That's all countries, the EBU is a union of public broadcasters.

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Holiday-Step9703@reddit

Oh yeah I presumed it's similar Europewide, it's the same in Serbia

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SlatkiMicek@reddit

Countries with balls. I'm sorry our prime minister is weak wanker without his own opinion.

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MadCroatZrile@reddit

What does Eurovision have to do with the Prime Minister and the government?

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SlatkiMicek@reddit

STFU

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MadCroatZrile@reddit

Congrats on failing the IQ test lmao

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SlatkiMicek@reddit

Idi bre zrile svojima

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MadCroatZrile@reddit

Imaš pravo, trebam se držati ljudi. Vi mačori niste normalni

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WienClown@reddit

How is it your pm’s decision?

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JRJenss@reddit

It isn't. It's the decision of the public broadcaster, but still...respect to Slovenia, Spain, The Netherlands and Ireland.

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74C5@reddit

A non-wanker prime minister would have acted like a dictator, taken control of the public broadcaster and abolished their participation at the contest by executive decree. /s

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Upstairs-Challenge92@reddit

Tbh I would have boycotted after Baby Lasagna lost

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Madatefute@reddit

This sht is so gay

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ThroatLeft@reddit

Hungary and Slovakia made my day 😂😂😂😂😂

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Character_Hamster890@reddit

Turkiye: Because seculars enjoyed that.

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Clear-Edge-3612@reddit

From my point of view, Hungary is too gay

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Mother_Screen_7694@reddit

Why haven't you included kosovo?

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Saalle88@reddit

Cause he included Serbia already.

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dizzidevv@reddit

Kosovo isn't part of Serbia anymore, though. Not to the people living there.

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Saalle88@reddit

Yes but if he is from the country that did not recognize Kosovo it makes no sense to put it separately.

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dizzidevv@reddit

People don't need to represent their government. Kosovo is a country since 2008, according to the people inhabiting it. That should be respected.

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Saalle88@reddit

Yes but its not a country to others that doesn't recognize it and people should respect that too.

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dizzidevv@reddit

I feel as though not respecting it as a country is inherently disrespectful to its population, no?

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Saalle88@reddit

Well i think this is not a question you should ask a Serb but im not gonna continue about this.

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dizzidevv@reddit

I know. It's exactly why I'm bringing it up. Albanians have lived there for centuries(and according to geneology and linguistic analyisis, perhaps millennia), and even if this is "disputed", any right to it was lost when they tried to expel 1 million Albanians in '99. Why would they want their oppressors back?

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Saalle88@reddit

Look, i dont hate Albanian or Kosovo people but we will never agree on this topic so i try to avoid going deeper into this subject.

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Mother_Screen_7694@reddit

Well try going to Kosovo and you'll see

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ComplicatedSunshine@reddit

From what I can see, Kosovo is not a member of the European Broadcasting Union, therefore it can't take part in Eurovision

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RoyaleKingdom78@reddit

For first time in last 50 years, I’m proud for my country turkey for saying the truth

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RestaurantBoring417@reddit

Eurovision 2027: Israel & Germany, everyone else abstains or is banned

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adamgerd@reddit

In your dreams will most countries boycott over Israel god forbid participating

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RestaurantBoring417@reddit

It was a joke, calm down my Czech zio bro

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Suspicious-Towel-680@reddit

thank fuck we're not participating maybe this year i won't have to listen to everyone around me talk about this slop

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Plus-Organization-96@reddit

Good for them. It's crap

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Fun-Story6652@reddit

Being too gay is honestly the most Eurovision reason to not participate. Respect.

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boobybooby123@reddit

isn't morocco supporting Israel?

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_Caligulean_@reddit

Who tf asked Maghreb to come? Also why is it hosting Israel? Anyways, I hope either Serbia or Croatia win, loved both songs very much

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danirijeka@reddit

Who tf asked Maghreb to come?

The EBU is defined by the European Broadcasting Area of the ITU: East of the midatlantic, North of the 30th parallel North, West of the 40th meridian East, plus the three Caucasus countries.

As a result, Iraq is in the EBA, and so is the entire Mediterranean shore of Africa.

Then you have associate members that are not restricted geographically, like Canada and Australia.

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Paithegift@reddit

That's also why Israel is eligible.

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bleuberri_@reddit

i’m not completely sure, but i think the north african countries and lebanon have always been able to be in it they just never were bc of israel being in it. ik morocco and one other (i think tunisia) competed one year but that’s it.

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MissSteak@reddit

Morocco competed one year in the 80s, Lebanon is the other one youre thinking about. They already chose their song and announced participation but then withdrew after some drama with the Israeli broadcaster. I believe in 2005.

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David_Aaron_Finck@reddit

That's typical for Bosnia and Herzegovina. 😂

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GMNtg128@reddit

I remember Turkey stopped joining Eurovision because of how many half naked gay men were televised on it lol

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YourLocalMoroccan@reddit

why did you steal my map and not even give credit?

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ArugulaNeat5771@reddit

Its a freak show no normal person can win you have to be a freak

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Superb_Bench9902@reddit

Tbh since the day Manga lost and got the second place I stopped caring about the Eurovision

Yes, I'm still mad about that

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Imaginary_Concert519@reddit

wait, since when did algeria and tunisia participate to eurovsion?

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dizzidevv@reddit

Add Kosovo to the map, please :)

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44-47-25_N_20-28-5-E@reddit

I might even like Hugarians after all, this is too funny

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BATApro@reddit

Finally the real map of serbia

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Mark0994c7r@reddit

Africa and Eurovision hahahahahhahaha

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PieBright8211@reddit

I haven't watched it since the day he didn't win

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cosmic-llama5@reddit

He was good but the song was very average

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howtobatman101@reddit

Who is this I wanna listen it it. For the music of course, it's not about the girls in the back

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PomegranateOk2600@reddit

A Moldovian contender, the Epic Sax guy

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thatMrGecko@reddit

if you listen to it, it will for sure be for the music.

ever seen the headbanging gandalf? yeah.

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SeaWorth6552@reddit

Lol I had no idea

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PieBright8211@reddit

Epic sax guy

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Whole_Obligation_776@reddit

I remember watching the show live that year with friends and getting real dissapointed that Moldova losing it. It was god damn great.

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reallybi@reddit

Figures that of all years to choose to participate we chose this one.

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V1k1ngVGC@reddit

Another example of “inclusiveness” is just intolerance in disguise.

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jamaljackson1@reddit

I AM VERY PROUD OF MY COUNTRY, GO POSNIA 🦅🇹🇰🇹🇰🇹🇰

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PavelKringa55@reddit

Anyway, the map is missing countries, like Georgia and Australia.
Please show a proper map!

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jamaljackson1@reddit

Attempts to explain countries reasons for not participating in Euro-Vision - gets criticised because the map is focused on Europe and doesn't extend all the way to the other end of the world

You're completely right but it's hilarious

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DrFrosthazer@reddit

We should just ban Israel.

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AccomplishedQuit6535@reddit

Hungary is right

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Turpentine_Tree@reddit

I don't like the Big Five concept, but I enjoy watching them boycott Britain in the final.

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HuckleberryUpbeat518@reddit

Eurovision turned into bullshit about 15 years ago. Now it is just a joke and I would prefer not to have public money be spent on it.

I also believe that boycotting Israel is the right thing to do.

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Saalle88@reddit

Ok i wish Serbia didn't join the Eurovision due to being politically incorrect. Is this formuled fine enough for you guys or is this counting as "hate"?

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Classic-Exit4189@reddit

I wish we didnt participate either.

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UnderstandingCool574@reddit

I stopped watching after Türkiye decided not to participate anymore.

Also most have the same reason. I don't understand why they don't cancel that particular country. Look how many countries don't want to join because of them

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the_TIGEEER@reddit

Its funded by them lol. It's been big drama in the recent years have you not heard? The whole Joost Klein - Netherlands thing?

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UnderstandingCool574@reddit

I know there was something about Joost not wanting to go on stage before or after the Israeli singer. But like I said, I don't even follow it anymore since Türkiye stopped joining.

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PavelKringa55@reddit

How are 3 North African countries not participating? They've never been to Eurovision in the first place. Why would they be in the Eurovision? Why don't they make their Africavision? They're not in Europe, like Australia.

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ecosludge@reddit

They’ve always been eligible to join Eurasian since they’re in the EBU, but that have chosen not to to protest Israel. The only time Morocco performed was when Israel was not there.

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FantasticQuartet@reddit (OP)

Morocco has participated once in 1980.

They are technically eligible because their national broadcasters are part of EBU

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Saalle88@reddit

I wish Serbia decided not to go as well due to being politically decided already + too gay.

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PVanchurov@reddit

I think that we should also come up with a bullshit reason to not participate, like "skill issue" or something along those lines. The song representing Bulgaria this year is ... derivative to say the least.

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HotlineMiami_3@reddit

Israel is just a scapegoat

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Brafo22@reddit

Because of Israel lmao, hopefully all those countries never come back or they will look like hypocrites, there are better ways of showing you are upset with Israel, for example last years winner should go to Palestine and perform a song, question is who will attack him first, Israel for being against them or Palestine because he’s queer, trash vs trash in other words

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