[Rifle] IWI Galil Ace Gen2 5.45x39mm - $999 +tax/ + FS
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hitemlow@reddit
That's going to be a hard sell with 5.45 availability being what it is
Begle1@reddit
Eh, 5.45 as well as 7.62 Soviet is showing at 60 cents per round on AmmoSeek right now, versus 45 cents per round for 5.56.
Is that a deal breaker if it's what you really want? Cheaper than 308 at around 80 cents per round in any case. Grendel price looks around 70 cents.
It's not 5.56, but nothing else is either, other than 5.56.
killerz7770@reddit
No the point is availability
No one in the western market is making 5.45 and Russia is too busy pissing away their entire stock of ammo into explosive targets- I mean Russian Soldiers.
RyAllDaddy69@reddit
What’s the “risk” with online?
I’m not being sarcastic, I’m genuinely asking. I shoot 1k or so rounds of 5.56 and another 500-1k of 9mm per month. I’ve been buying ammo online for 4 or 5 years and I’ve never had an issue.
I’m definitely NOT defending the 5.45 scarcity argument, it’s not worth it to me right now, but I don’t understand the “I’m not risking buying ammo you online” argument.
skECCH1@reddit
Risk not being able to muster the brain power to put in credit card credentials vs just holding it to a tap to pay
Begle1@reddit
But it is available, I could order thousands of rounds online right now for under $1 per round if I wanted to.
Most of it looks like imported steel case or Berdan-primed, but there are still listings for loaded Hornady cartridges as well for under 80 cents each, which I imagine is what you'd want to buy if you're reloading.
Compared to some of the ammo logistics struggles I've gone through or witnessed, I don't see what's so scary about feeding a 5.45 in the lower 48.
BigDiesel07@reddit
What is wrong with steel case or Berdan-primed? I am new to the ammo scene
Begle1@reddit
Steel cased and Berdan-primed ammo is impossible/ unadvisable/ more difficult to reload. Brass cartridges with boxer primers is what Americans at least are used to.
For an "exotic" round like 5.45x39, you'd probably want to buy a few cases of ammo and then reload it for as long as you can.
Compared to lots of antique or esoteric wildcat cartridges, 5.45x39 is extremely available. It may not be "I can buy it from WalMart"-available, but it's still "I can buy as much as I want online"-available.
Apparently plenty of people are concerned enough about needing to source ammo online rather than locally that it influences their buying decisions. It wouldn't factor into my decision making.
Insanity8016@reddit
It's common sense why someone would factor in local availability for their choice of caliber.
Begle1@reddit
I reckon that I have a different view from living in Hawaii, where there is no guaranteed local availability of anything and the only components I can easily get through the mail are brass and bullets.
I'd love if I could get 5.56 as efficiently as anybody on the mainland can get 5.45.
I truly cannot comprehend somebody choosing a cartridge based on what is stocked locally, when there is an as-much-as-you-want supply of reloadable ammo a week or two away through the mail.
clicktoseemyfetishes@reddit
But every gun shop in the US will have muh 308/300WM on the shelf, even in bumfuck nowhere Alaska!
Right next to a dozen other popular cartridges and for $50 a box probably, lol
GrouchTheMongolian@reddit
a lot of ranges dont allow steel for whatever reason they say they dont. and if a range doesnt allow steel, then you need to find somewhere else that will let you dance
PutridDropBear@reddit
Because they don't want to sort it when scrapping the brass for recycling ... and the likelihood of bimetallic projectiles being thrown down range (could be a bad day).
killerz7770@reddit
Online, yes.
But many people including myself buy ammo in person and 5.45 is carried less here than 7.62
AssaultPlazma@reddit
In a vacuum no.
But consider the following
Stores rarely carry 5.45x39
5.45x39 function wise is basically a somewhat worse 5.56x45
5.45x39 is effectively a proprietary cartridge
Any gun that can be bought in 5.45x39 can be bought in 5.56x45
So you're paying 60 CPR for a proprietary harder to source proprietary version of 5.56x45. Or you can just get 5.56x45 which is cheaper, ubiquitous and can be used with any other 5.56x45 weapon you own.
Considering the totality of the situation it's really not worth it...
Begle1@reddit
The two rounds are pretty similar, but in the context of Internet caliber arguments, lots of people prefer the 5.45x39 over the 5.56x45. It's like arguing 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308.
hitemlow@reddit
5.45 is showing 77¢ for no-limit brass. All 5.56 is brass, so that's a better comparison.
If you're buying online it might not be too bad, but some people like the ability to find ammo in stores if their supplies are low. 5.45 isn't easy to find in stores.
FadingFX@reddit
I’m gonna guess nonexistent?
Triggerz777@reddit
Yep. I was about to buy
DoctorVepr@reddit
Just do it. They’ll never be cheaper. The extra $500 you saved buy ammo with
Temporary-Box-7493@reddit
You could shoot tens, possibly hundreds of rounds!
VoluptuousBLT@reddit
Just over 931.
Temporary-Box-7493@reddit
Well somebody’s been shopping
VoluptuousBLT@reddit
Bruh I wish
Kosmonautfpv@reddit
Cries in Bulgarian ak74 owner noises
loki993@reddit
Why do you think its only a thousand dollars
hitemlow@reddit
It could secretly be made by Sig...
GrouchTheMongolian@reddit
mhmm
Embarrassed-Donkey93@reddit
I wish 5.45 was cheaper. I would buy that today.
LongoChingo@reddit
Only that cheap because of the caliber, unfortunately
WillitsThrockmorton@reddit
Honestly, half tempted because of the onrushing ban in VA anyway.
Schorsi@reddit
My brain autocorrected to 5.56, then I read the comments and got sad
DrNinjaPandaManEsq@reddit
Yeah, i got super excited until I noticed the caliber.
therealruin@reddit
If, hypothetically, someone had… say 2000ish rounds of 7n6 laying around… this is BIN right?
jerknmygherkn@reddit
Best option for $1000 unless you want to pony up for an SLR104 or a WBP.
therealruin@reddit
This did it for me. Thanks!
Have_Cannon@reddit
yes
nvgeologist@reddit
What is magazine availability for this? I've only done 5.45 chambered ARs and that was 15 years ago.
SgtHop@reddit
Magpul makes them. Very common and cheap.
nvgeologist@reddit
Awesome, thanks. I am AK-tarded, I know nothing about them. I'm looking at this for potential to post sample. I already have a posty AK74, but I have a lot of 5.45 and am looking at getting into the tourist machine gun rental industry to expand my operation at ATF Convenience Store
SgtHop@reddit
Yeah, these just take 74 mags. You should be gucci. I have one and love it, even if I don't shoot it much because of the ammo cost.
ComfortableOk7383@reddit
What’s the allure of 5.45x39? Already have a Gen 2 7.62x39 & 7.62x51 so already paying premium ammo prices. I inherited reloading equipment and was already reloading 308 for deer. Need dies for 7.62x39. Guess I could get dies for 5.45x39 but not familiar with caliber.
cdillon42@reddit
good luck with reloading 5.45. no one really makes brass for it, and most of the stuff that was readily available is steel cased.
ComfortableOk7383@reddit
Wasn’t aware so guess it’ll be a pass then
SaxOnTheBeach545@reddit
Maaaaan.....This is tempting. I'm sitting on 25k of 5.45, but already have four 5.45's in the safe....
chuckisduck@reddit
Don't. I had around the same amount of x39 when we stopped getting Russian imports and burned through 8 cases already.
cdillon42@reddit
Don't think I have that many rounds but have 2 5.45s in the safe and wondering the same
GPAnewb@reddit
PSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Weapon_Industries
This is NOT an American company
sportbiketed@reddit
Fucking Captain Obvious over here
Chucklethrust@reddit
Gee, if only the country of origin was in the Company's name...
ultra_soyman490@reddit
Have you ever bought a firearm? Literally like 8/10 of them aren't American. Some of the best aren't made in the US.
DrFeeIgood@reddit
I would've thought most folks that would be aware of and want this gun would know IWI is Israeli. I could see Mepro being less known than IWI.
HingelMcCringelBarry@reddit
Thanks detective
_lunitl_@reddit
I've always wanted one of these in this caliber. LGS still has some 5.45x39.
ThisLuckLmao@reddit
This is almost worth it to buy and keep until the shenanigans in Ukraine end
LovecraftInDC@reddit
When the shenanigans in Ukraine end, particularly if Ukraine ends up NATO aligned and switches over to 5.56, there's going to be a ton of imported 5.45x39mms on the market.
Hellsing971@reddit
Not 7N6 stuff. This cartridge is fucked for more than one reason.
Smallie_Slayer@reddit
Why is this cartridge fucked? Sorry not up to speed and I’m considering buying. I have many other rifles so this wouldn’t matter a ton if I can’t find lots of affordable ammo
Cleared_Direct@reddit
The ATF declared it armor piercing pistol ammo so 7N6 was banned prior to Russia sanctions
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
Fun fact, the pistol used to justify this doesn't exist.
Cleared_Direct@reddit
This fact is not fun at all
FrenzyCalm@reddit
ATF banned the import of 7N6 ammo
Biddlebomber@reddit
2040s by my guess 😆
Howie_Doit69@reddit
I don’t anticipate anything Russian being imported for a very long time
Callmechachi210@reddit
😂
Ok_Crab_3522@reddit
it's time to take 5.45x39 off life support guys
Barneys_Bick@reddit
How hard would it be to rechamber this to 5.56 or 7.62?
shanep35@reddit
Hard and expensive. Might as well buy what you want.
Barneys_Bick@reddit
Fair enough, I figured it was a long shot in all honesty but maybe at this price it would be slightly cheaper then a new purchase
RedditDallas@reddit
more expensive than it would be to just outright get one in those calibers
Master-Chandler@reddit
I was thinking the same thing
Swimming_Agent_1063@reddit
Fuck 5.45x39mm 5.56 is better in every way
IsopodEnough6726@reddit
The round is effectively dead but this is Tempting AF.
NoobRaunfels@reddit
I don’t shoot it so I went to ammoseek, and man, every dealer just has the same three options, but mostly TelaAmmo, and brother it ain’t cheap. Woof
PR3SID3NT_NIX0N@reddit
Gen 1 and not this caliber
AnonThisData@reddit
I wish people would buy these so the emails stop. I cannot resist them forever.
TechnicalAd8150@reddit
IDF really need more of our paycheck rn
Highplain-Drifter@reddit
5.
meowser210@reddit
M
Any-Tennis4658@reddit
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I_goofed@reddit
G?
big_guwop_1017soicy@reddit
M
peppersgeneralstore@reddit
A
JDMNissanPS13@reddit
Goodbye.
big_guwop_1017soicy@reddit
We did it, Reddit!
DoctorVepr@reddit
M
BH11B@reddit
Ya I’m not buying a new rifle even if it’s dirt cheap in a dead caliber for the west. The last of my 545 is already allocated.
cdillon42@reddit
Dropped $200 in 2 months...
Guys do I buy or hold?
Biddlebomber@reddit
Your gonna be happy af when you get it BUT sad af staring at it on your wall.
Who knows. 556 is also creeping up a little so maybe we're all screwed.
cdillon42@reddit
I just bought 3k of 7n6 ammo for $900 from local guy
Biddlebomber@reddit
Very happy for you...can you do it like 3 or 4 more times? 😆
cdillon42@reddit
Ummm.... I may or may not have 3 or 4x that in non 7n6
Biddlebomber@reddit
Wish I was into AKs pre-2020. I did make a smart move and ordered 3k in 7.62 for 1k the night the Ukraine war broke out. Found some HPs at a LGS for a decent price too.
Haven't really shot much since then unfortunately.
cdillon42@reddit
A place had it for 27cpr right when the war broke out and I bought $5k worth.
JedaiGuy@reddit
I wonder if there are stockpiles on Kharg Island…
ThisLuckLmao@reddit
Kharg island is where the Epstein backups are hidden
DontTellUrMom@reddit
Nah, if that were the case we would have nuked the island by now.
fmus@reddit
IWI needs to move some product lol
DoctorVepr@reddit
Steal
toxic_load2k18@reddit
Almost got me
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
ONLY reason it’s so cheap is because 5.45x39 is basically obliterated in the states lol. You gotta have a stockpile of it already
Error_506@reddit
A perk is that if you have a Gen1 and want spare parts, is is a super affordable way to acquire them
K2e2vin@reddit
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