Full size RC shahed drone for sale on FB marketplace outside of DC

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TheBarghest7590@reddit

On one hand, I don’t think there’s any law yet that would prevent someone from having a fake Shahed…

On the other… at this point given how prominent they are I imagine it would be the aircraft equivalent of brandishing a replica firearm in public and you would be at risk of getting into deep shit.

It’s not quite like your random DJI Mavic or scale model jet… there’s no way to tell that apart from a real Shahed when it’s airborne and that’s a dodgy situation to put yourself in given current events.

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deeeevos@reddit

Yeah, I imagine this guy going for a test flight and causing a national panic. Especially with the recent reports of Iran planning a drone attack and all

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LightningFerret04@reddit

I wonder if the average joe knows what a Shahed drone even looks like

I know drone strikes are in the news and everything, but I wonder how many have actually seen the drones used for the attacks in the news enough to recognize it as a foe vs just some “triangle RC drone plane thing”

One of my friends sent me a photo of an L-39 flying over and asked what it was, thinking it was a USAF fighter

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trainbrain27@reddit

Military hardware is second nature to us redditors, so it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows the shape of a F-16 and one or two of our drones.

And the F-35, of course.

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sintaur@reddit

If you have just the standard commercial drone pilot license, it would have to weight under 55 pounds, or you need to do more paperwork. A Shahed drone is 300+ pounds depending on the model.

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RizzOreo@reddit

So what you're saying is I should just buy a Geran

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UnmannedComposites@reddit

It’s 106 dry weight.

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youtheotube2@reddit

RC aircraft are often heavier than 55 pounds too

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cholz@reddit

It just needs a fluorescent orange nose cone.

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TacTurtle@reddit

Stencil "inert" on it with a blue nose cone.

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357noLove@reddit

You just made me snort coffee out of my nose laughing. Thanks 😊

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Treacle_Pendulum@reddit

Just paint “Second Amendment” and “SCOTUS justices should have RVs as part of their pay” on it. You’ll be fine.

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Legendary_TaeYamada@reddit

"there's no way to tell that apart from a real Shahed when it's airborne and that's a dodgy situation to put yourself in given current events."

Why do you think he's selling it lol

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FuckDatNoisee@reddit

R/insanefbmarketplace

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of_the_mountain@reddit (OP)

Ohh I definitely need to use that sub more. Half my posts are random shit I see on Fb lol

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Limekill@reddit

twice the places to post lol

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TheHappyMasterBaiter@reddit

By that point is it really RC anymore?

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deeeevos@reddit

RC just means Remote Control. So unless he's riding on top, yeah it's still RC

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TheManMachine78@reddit

Obviously, he sits in the nose cone! That's what a guidance section is for, right?

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Shaun_Jones@reddit

Honestly, it could carry a small child. The warhead on a Shahed is about 110 pounds.

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FhuckNorris247@reddit

Pretty sure actual Shahed drones have programmed gps locations in them, and are not actually remote controlled

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TheHappyMasterBaiter@reddit

What I’m saying is that the line between it and an actual Shahed is heavily blurred by this point. The difference would be that the actual one has the 4 stroke engine but both would probably be able to carry the explosive payload wherever.

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AyeBraine@reddit

Does this have a 2-stroke?

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gurgle528@reddit

it’s actually radio control! so as long as you’re using a radio to control it it’s still RC, although at some point it does lose meaning lol

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formulaonelover44@reddit

lol 20k? Little steep more like 10 tbh

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disobedientavocado45@reddit

There were drones stolen from a base in tx last week, and the jedi drones are very very similar to the shahed... not saying but just saying.

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ThaddeusJP@reddit

Kidding aside hobby flying and Drones days are numbered.

Someday someone is gonna strap a pipe bomb or Tennerite to a drone or old ass rc plane and successfully kill someone with it and then it's game over. FAA will require licensure out the ass and anyone buying anything, and you will go on a regersty.

Home made stuff will made totally illegal.

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gguy128@reddit

No 2A equivalent for drones 😔

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Gnoobl@reddit

How to have free state sponsored home security with live monitoring in this one simple step.

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Hadrollo@reddit

Y'know, I actually considered making a knock-off Shahed. I have most of the mechanical and electronic parts, and a 3D printer that could make moulds for the fiberglass. Then I decided that this is a level of "detained for two days and make news headlines" stress that I didn't need.

Still, my son's just turned 18. I figure I should build a drone with him, it'll teach him valuable skills for his young adult life. Namely; the ones that'll keep him off the front lines when WW3 breaks out.

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flynnfx@reddit

You're probably on the NSA watch list with this very post.

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Hadrollo@reddit

I'd hope not.

I've done plenty of dodgier shit than this. I'd be disappointed if I've gone so long without getting on a watchlist.

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flynnfx@reddit

Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it.

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Clear-Bee4118@reddit

So I might as well monetize my masturbation if someone is watching anyway then?

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RogerianBrowsing@reddit

They already watch me when I’m sitting at home and feeling alone. Looking through my webcam is Uncle Sam.

🫡

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JPJackPott@reddit

Personally I think it would be more fun to make one in a slightly comic missile shape. Pointy nose cone, fins at the back. Maybe some cotton wool smoke.

Imagine seeing a ‘missile’ zooming around your neighbourhood chasing someone’s dog

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Gquma@reddit

I heard its made out of sheet metal?

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Hadrollo@reddit

It is. However, I can't stamp sheet metal. I can make fiberglass.

The intent was never to build an actual Shahed 136, just something that looks and flies like one.

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Gquma@reddit

Very cool

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murphybt@reddit

My son turns 14 in a couple days and I've had this EXACT thought

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crysisnotaverted@reddit

Get him a Tiny Whoop. They're cool as hell, cheap, and great learning platforms.

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murphybt@reddit

Thanks!

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Historical-Tea-7445@reddit

Damn i think iran makes them for less.

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MightySouthB@reddit

Aren't they like 50k a piece? Which in ordinance talks is already insanely cheap

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UnmannedComposites@reddit

Material cost and labor drive the price. Epoxy carbon fiber and fiberglass are about 50% the cost, labor is 20-30% electronics around 20%

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-02-@reddit

Russian ones are 50k and supposedly cost optimized from the original version.

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MajesticNectarine204@reddit

Yeah, optimised for the kleptocracy with an automatic kick-back dispenser.

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-02-@reddit

No. Theres a mock technical school where they force the students to make them. Alabuga polytech.

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Revolutionary-Wash88@reddit

And funnel the profits. No one is arguing

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RogerianBrowsing@reddit

The Russians have also added upgrades on them, things like thermal cameras and AI automated tracking/targeting of moving targets for example. It adds cost.

That said it’s amazing the price to performance ratios that Iran produces

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parth096@reddit

Orderes them from China for less**

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TryMyBacon@reddit

And theirs has boom juice in it

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followupquestion@reddit

I prefer the term “spicy cider”.

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MajesticNectarine204@reddit

'Splody spunk.

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Gnoobl@reddit

Angry putty

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MajesticNectarine204@reddit

Self baking clay

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Historical-Tea-7445@reddit

Exactly.

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SpiritualHiker@reddit

It's not as fun as it sounds

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Gnoobl@reddit

It’s definitely a bold choice

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RamTank@reddit

Reminds me of a sketch I saw once. Put an isis flag on your lawn and you’ll never have to worry about home security again.

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Gnoobl@reddit

Exactly where my mind went

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InsayneW0lf@reddit

Someone's going to be checking up on you, while your out!

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SwimEnvironmental420@reddit

CIA watchlist speedrun.

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festering-shithole@reddit

Mega giga 6D chess big brain free home surveillance and security game plan.

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Kleoes@reddit

On a the back of a Toyota, as god intended

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iamacynic37@reddit

Mashallah, until Paradise or Toyotathon, my friend.

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Pleasant-Doctor6594@reddit

I lost my virginity at toyotathon

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EntertainmentReady48@reddit

Crush the infidels who celebrate Howdy Honda Days!

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bolivar-shagnasty@reddit

Trucktober
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Spring into Savings
Memorial Day Sales Event, because what better way to honor your fallen comrades than promotional APRs and manufacturer rebates

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Revolutionary-Wash88@reddit

Push, pull, drag your fallen comrades in for spectacular savings

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UnmannedComposites@reddit

There wasn’t a Hilux available

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Arlieth@reddit

Fuck the chicken tax. That is all

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Username_St0len@reddit

Tacomas will have to do

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UnmannedComposites@reddit

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ILove2Bacon@reddit

r/shittytechnicals

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Kleoes@reddit

Uhhh… yeah dude that’s where we are

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ILove2Bacon@reddit

Well...shit.

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Kleoes@reddit

Shit happens, and so do shitty technicals

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tiny_the_destroyer@reddit

Now that you mention it, it would just look a bit out of place on a F150

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Tough-Marsupial-6254@reddit

Is that an old volkswagen motor strapped to it?

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NotSure2505@reddit

It raises an interesting question: At what point does an RC plane become classified a weapon?

Since the Shaheed drone is sourced from mostly hobby RC materials (why it's so cheap) Motor here. and here. The rest is just servos, electronics and foam.

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

It stops being an RC toy when it’s packed full of explosives???

Just because it looks like its military counterpart doesn’t mean it is.

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random_username_idk@reddit

To be the devil's advocate, your argument is similar to saying that a gun isn't a weapon until it's loaded with ammunition.

Making explosives is trivial for someone who is determined and a drone is the ideal delivery method. It doesn't take much effort to combine the two.

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

Not in the slightest

It’s like saying an Ar-15 is a military rifle

When an AR-15 and M4 series of rifles are aesthetically similary yet mechanically different

One gun is a civilian rifle made for sporting purposes and self-defense/hunting

The other is a military platform created to focus on volume of fire and offensive capabilities as a machine gun

The statement still holds true

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GI_HD@reddit

Not all AR-15 are M4s but all M4s are AR-15s.

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

Again we’re close here but still not accurate. Both platforms share parts and origins yet are still their own distinct and own categories.

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GI_HD@reddit

Ar-15 is a product line (the civilian semi-auto rifles you mentioned) aswell as a family/lineage of Ar-15 type rifles originating from the original Stoner design at Armalite which later developed into the M16/M4 aswell as the civilian versions.

To make a clumsy apology, humans are not the same as modern apes but they do share a common ape ancestor.

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

Yeah that works like how Humans and apes are distinctly different while we originated from a common ancestor

Sorta how like Ar-15s and M4 originated from the Ar-10

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NotSure2505@reddit

You might want to study up on M4s and ARs. M4 is just the US military designation of the version of AR-15 they buy. I think you're meaning is suggest that the M4 is a "fully automatic military issue", but there are semi-auto M4s owned by civilians because the M4 is just an AR-15 with a grenade launcher mount. Just like an M9 is a Beretta 92FS, but not all Beretta 92s are M9s. Or the M11 is a SIG P228.

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

This is objectively not true. The Ar-15 and M4 platform are objectively not the same platform. It’s not just a name change. Although they might share parts compatibility, the M4 is a “select fire machine gun. It’s not just a mere name change. Civilians own Ar-15s that can be stylized as M4s but if they wanted an actual M4 with the third whole and auto sear you need a machine tax tamp and ATF approval. No idea if you’re just rage baiting or serious.

No modern competent military organization uses an Ar-15 full stop. They use the AR’s bigger select fire derivatives such as M16, M16A2, M4A1 etc

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NotSure2505@reddit

So an unloaded AR-15 is no longer a weapon?

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yourboibigsmoi808@reddit

No an Airsoft/bb gun Ar-15 is not a weapon unless you can stripe the whole thing out and replace it with real components. If we’re using examples

A Toyota Helix is just a reliable dependable pickup truck, unless you slap some armor and a Heavy machine gun in the back then it becomes a technical used in combat operations

Is a Toyota pickup a weapon?

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NotSure2505@reddit

Agreed, but what do you think would happen if this guy started flying this "RC Plane" in the DC area in Class G (unrestricted) airspace?

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LoopsAndBoars@reddit

It would likely be vaporized and disintegrate once it breaches a predefined parameter. Posts like this are how the world becomes aware, by design of the powers that be.

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NotSure2505@reddit

I specifically said Class G airspace. I know what happens if it strays any earlier in the alphabet.

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RamTank@reddit

Yeah like a normal RC plane is a toy, but when you tape a PG-7 warhead onto it it becomes a weapon. Pretty straightforward.

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WhoCaresBoutSpellin@reddit

Ban assault drones! Think of the children!

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ammit_souleater@reddit

Haven't seen those in an American school yet...

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ACCESS_DENIED_41@reddit

That 5 cylinder one is really cool

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mcnabb100@reddit

It’s not necessarily considered a “weapon”, but if it weighs over 55lb there are some extra hoops you’re supposed to jump through.

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/ua

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of_the_mountain@reddit (OP)

This drone is listed at 106 lbs for what it’s worth

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LoopsAndBoars@reddit

At the sample point a torx bit becomes an assault projectile, or a belt loop becomes a machine gun called a bump stock.

The answer is subjective, and as needed.

Law is entirely ambiguous by design. Unless you have the money to fund the impending contention; stay out of the ballroom.

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NightFormer@reddit

DHS has entered the chat

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willasmith38@reddit

Best to go direct to the manufacturer and buy in bulk.

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Great_White_Sharky@reddit

How does it land?

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Plump_Apparatus@reddit

Land?

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Great_White_Sharky@reddit

haha funny get it because its a replica of a kamikaze drone. But i genuinely want to know

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klonkish@reddit

Why do you think they're designed to land? In what scenario do you envision it happening?

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Great_White_Sharky@reddit

Why do you think some random John Doe is selling an actual Shahed on Facebook 😂 Are you drunk?

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WhoCaresBoutSpellin@reddit

Well it IS St. Patrick’s Day

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Username_St0len@reddit

but it's not a car

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ammit_souleater@reddit

The carbomb is irish tradition, the shaheed not...

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Username_St0len@reddit

that was i was getting at with u/WhoCaresBoutSpellin

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klonkish@reddit

It wouldn't be a replica if it had landing gear.

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youtheotube2@reddit

Nobody said it’s a perfect replica

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klonkish@reddit

Well the fact that it doesn't have landing gear kind of means it is?

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youtheotube2@reddit

Why do you think it doesn’t have landing gear? Besides the fact that actual shaheds don’t have landing gear. Just because it’s transported in a wooden jig doesn’t mean it doesn’t have landing gear

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klonkish@reddit

There's no indentation in the fuselage for the gear to come out of the body.

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of_the_mountain@reddit (OP)

I fully agree it does not appear there is landing gear, maybe they do belly landings or maybe it is just well hidden. Not really sure but I assume it’s reusable somehow

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youtheotube2@reddit

You can’t see the entire bottom of the fuselage, and I think it’s pretty likely that the wooden jig would attach right over where the landing gear is since that’s where the structure is designed to handle that load

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Great_White_Sharky@reddit

The fact that it doesnt have an actual bombload kinda means it isnt?

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RamTank@reddit

For a non-boomy replica, you'd probably want to fly it multiple times.

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sentinelthesalty@reddit

With a bang!

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AyeBraine@reddit

Some large drones have a parachute system for landing.

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allamerican37@reddit

Large net raised above the ground catches it. You lower net after. Only hillybilly rig I could think of would be a net over one the trampolines with the tall sides. Obviously remove trampoline portion. You would have to cut throttle and glide it in.

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Firestar_119@reddit

belly land and hope the prop doesn't shatter

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CPTherptyderp@reddit

Nose first

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DarkKnightTazze@reddit

Land that thing on the white house front lawn. That would get a few laughs and get you a 20 year prison sentence.

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AlfalfaConstant431@reddit

Only 20?

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TacTurtle@reddit

How big does the U-Control line have to be?

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wesweb@reddit

I wonder what Doug Hughes is up to nowadays.

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PossibleSource9132@reddit

You can actually buy them in China

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Username_St0len@reddit

I'm going back home soon, gonna mail one back with me

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RogerianBrowsing@reddit

The Temu shaheds tend to be ~2/3 the real size. Just for what it’s worth.

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BeardBootsBullets@reddit

Did you… 👀

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RogerianBrowsing@reddit

lol nah, I don’t have that kind of spending money to burn. I just looked into it a bit when some people were making various claims like that China was producing shaheds for Iran and Russia or the LUCAS for the US.

Turns out a flying wing design tends to look like other flying wings. 🤷‍♂️

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