It would honestly be a one two punch, lift the burden of debt from Americans while also exposing the corruption within the wealthy/ruling class. No quicker way to turn the potential WWIII that's at your doorstep into an American civil war whilen they have their military spread thin abroad.
The only downside, and it's a doozy, is that this would leave American soil somewhat open to a land invasion, and it'd likely be from Russia.
i don't think any country would think of invading the US. if that happened, every citizen turns into a soldier. we all have guns. Left and right goes out the window at that point and we would unite against an obvious threat.
And yet so many let Trump tread on them... Trump is a foreign enemy within the White House and literally has dictator level power, it'll be further proven at the midterms, and the line will then move again in the sand. Lots of 'American heros', but lots of them sitting on a couch not doing anything while the American dream is dying.
Russia can't even invade their closest neighbors. I'd be more worried about the Chinese -but they seem to be doing just fine by watching/waiting/doing nothing stupid
Well we saw all the arrests that too place after the release of the Trump-Epstein files in the US... oh wait... there weren't any. But I agree. Wiping the debt would make folks realize hopefully that they dont have to slave away for billionaires' sake.
There were two arrests actually. Both of which are no longer in prison though. And by the way, you should read through some of what has actually been released so far.
This comes as a surprise to no one, but during wartime, these kinds of attacks would increase, both in number and severity.
I see others are joking around and praying that Iranian hackers do things like forget American's student loan debt or whatnot. Not sure if people genuinely believe that or are just coping. Either way, this is not something to joke about because the kind of attacks we're talking about may not always be a temporary outage here and there, but something that could cause prolonged outages that coukd be anything, or even attacks on utility infrastructure or things like that.
We'll see how things pan out, but we should expect a higher risk of the kind of cyber attacks that your average Joe *will* notice quickly, and it almost certainly won't be the kind of attacks that people are joking about.
If you pay attention to Iranian leadership they repeatedly state that the *American people* are not their target. They understand that Americans are by and large a disenfranchised people with very little input into the decisions of our leaders. I wouldn’t expect any threats to civilian infrastructure. In line with their stated objectives, they’ve been focusing on our military assets in the region as well as the economic engines of the gulf states that host said assets. If they wanted to, they could strike civilian infrastructure to really fuck the gulf states (desalination plants), but directly harming civilian populations doesn’t appear to be in line with their current strategy.
There's nothing in the Quran that "outlines" destroying non Muslims. There are parts that Islamaphobic people use out of context to try and claim this. A simple Google search would set you straight.
Quran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
Quran 3:28 “Muslims must not take infidels as friends”
Quran 3:85 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable”
Quran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam”
Quran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than Quran”
Quran 8:60 “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels”
Quran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them”
Quran 9:5 “Whenever opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them”
Quran 9:123 “Make war on infidels living in your neighborhood”
Quran 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with infidels; behead them when you catch them”
And yes, a simple Google search will reveal more.
That's wishful thinking. States are rarely enemy of peoples, but peoples can be a tool for bringing down states, as the US has been doing for almost all its existance.
Here they can use the real breach between the polulation and the serial-pedo-cannibal-murderers to then excert external pressure to get the bulk of the consumers out of their comfortable life's, and face the ones responsible for it, accelerating the country's descent into the long due civil war.
It sees fairly obvious that right now, this is the most unpopular conflict we’ve been involved in since at least Iraq, maybe even Vietnam. Given that, it would be extremely foolish for the Iranians to risk galvanizing public support for this conflict by striking American civilian targets. They understand this, as is reflected in their public statements about their posture and intent towards the American people.
Yeah, seriously. I just came here to post this as a reminder. No, I'm not here to spread hysteria or say that the sky is falling as other commenters suggest. I'm just pointing out something people should at least consider. Not sure how many comments here are trolls or bots or foreign agents with an agenda.
Yes, Iran, and others, have conducted cyber attacks against the US forever. "So what?" some may ask... Being in an actual war this time instead of just the usual sabre rattling increases the risk of even worse attacks.
Fucking with American debt (student loans, medical, anything that's not stored analog) would be the only thing that would actually greatly affect things in the long term I think. Has there been much real cyber warfare at this point?
>Has there been much real cyber warfare at this point?
lol yes dude, constantly. It's just, what do you expect? Databases leak creds, another breach, people are numb to it.
Don't expect planes to fall out of the sky. Expect the normal shit that always happens, politicians get exposed for doing bad shit which erodes trust, financial fraud like crazy, etc.
Trust me, I'm in the specific industry in identifying what's exposed. I would rather not go into details because there isn't many of us in this industry, and also I'd rather not give out too many specifics on what I worry about during wartime.
Planes, I wouldn't worry about them dropping out of the sky too much. I would worry about all the aerospace infrastructure and related hardware that keeps everything running smooth. I would expect a cyberattack to basically completely fuck with aerospace infrastructure and mean a ton of flights get canceled one day out of nowhere. But it *likely* won't be cinematic, just very temporarily disruptive.
Similar with boats, trains, bridges, etc. Lots of disruption, not so much a boat crashing into a harbor, unless they found some very, very specific vuln that targets the actual on-board navigation... it'd be extreme and there's probably a lot of easier stuff to go for that is less cinematic but more financially disruptive.
I'm not too worried tbh because whatever is exposed has been a target since before the war started. Chinese national intelligence is constantly trying to go after US aerospace and military targets during peacetime. It's not like we haven't been worried about defending this stuff 24/7 already. Though, I bet we'll see more opportunistic attacks where they want people to know Iran can do some damage, something noisy.
It's kind of crazy that people here think that this is suddenly knew. State sponsored hackers attempt to hack US targets all day everyday, for years. They occasionally get through.
Iran has been funding terrorist groups throughout the world for years, to think they also havent been funding hacking groups is laughable
Yes, there has been much cyber warfare since this conflict (war) started with Iran, and yes there has been before this. It is supposed that Iran took down the IT systems of a medical company, Stryker. In 2019, Stryker bought an Israeli medical company OrthoSpace. In 2023, a hacker group hacked into the water supply in Pennsylvania, which had Israeli equipment.
Before this the incident of 2021 where the Colonial Pipeline was hacked by DarkSide as part of a ransomware scheme.
Prior to this in 2015, the US government's Office of Personnel Management was hacked by likely China. They stole all the employees SF-86 (background check information).
Prior to this in 2014, Sony was hacked because of the movie The Interview, a comedy about assassinating Kim Jung Un. Also, they hate us i they anus (taint us/ain't us).
Nothing significant that the average person would notice. We heard about Stryker the other day, but that's about it. The article linked mentioned a Microsoft outage, but I haven't noticed any disruption yet so far.
Assuming realistic feasibility, I'd argue that erasing US student loan debt would be a viable CW tactic. It would hit the financial systems financing the war hard enough to leave a mark, plus the added (potentially bigger) benefit is they would gain a lot sympathizers, or at the very least help further crack our currently fragile foundations of institutional trust for many folks. People would start to question if Iran really is the "bad guys"
*Iran "SUPPORTERS"
Just college kids participating in DDoS and pre-made attacks.
Some smarter ones, but ultimately westerners, practically nothing from within Iran.
We could honestly do without the insurance middle man. We don't need their approval for anything. Their approval is just another unnecessary thing that's been forced on us. Health insurance at this point just exists to suck money from multiple parties. Then they try as hard as possible to let the human side of the equation die for profit.
Imagine the impact they would make on the country if they cancelled all medical debt or credit/student loans. It would make the general population love the enemy and hate their own country. Would probably mess us up and destabilize our country way more than a terror attack on innocent civilians.
So instead of their own government killing them by the thousands, it should be YOUR government killing them by the thousands? https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/03/1167063
Oh look another 11 year old account trying to put words in my mouth. How cute. I’ve been downvoted to fuck for saying that I don’t want Iranian people killed for voicing their opinions. And you want to preach whataboutism?
Going to have try harder than that “Gupta@
It's funny you had to learn this from a reddit comment, but committing war crimes in the name of rescuing people is still committing a war crime. Thank you for your attention to this matter - 11 year old account
You don’t even know the context dumbass. The original comment I was responding to deleted their entire thread. But please keep going.
They said to make sure to thank the rich waging war on our planet, and you chimed in "I just want Iranians to stop dying, is that so bad ):" defending the endless cycle of violence
I think you're having a mental health episode bro jesus christ. I don't want Iranian people being killed due to their lack of freedom of speech either, but starting a kinetic operation without any clear pathway to victory, or clear plan to rebuild Iran is a mistake.
Please stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a bot, it makes it seem like you are mentally ill. You cannot be so entrenched in your worldview you think everyone with a difference of opinion is a bot man, that's not normal.
Well mine is plenty old. And I'm from the country that basically invented insurgency.
Blowing up that school alone will have created hundreds of cases of lifetime animosity. Fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters instilled with a full tank of righteous fury. And that school is not the only "whoopsie".
The Americans and Brits installed this shitty government to make money. Now it's gotten out from under their control it's threatening the money so it's getting bombed too. The average people have shafted both ways and they're obviously going to resent it
Oh look they brought out the supervisor. Why does escalation take so long in your organization and why were posting in the /aceventura subreddit about holocaust denial in this last year.
Your 11 year old paid for account doesn’t mean shit. And you sound just as Indian as your counterpart.
I'll jump on a video call this very second if you want.
And did you read that Ace Ventura Post? It's logical that the ace Ventura universe in fact didn't have the Holocaust. That's the point of the post. That it's insane.
No, and you've just proven why. If I post a video you'll just up and move the goalposts, then say something like "nice AI video shill"
You won't go live because you're happier feeling right than actually being right. Enjoy your corner, I'm out
>Right because your account looks “So normal!”
it's hilarious seeing everyone chiming in how you're wrong and you're just doubling down that everyone must be a bot 🤣 😂
Claiming people are deleting posts is your entire “debate strategy” I see.
Anyone know why whoever coded this bot is obsessed with people from India? Is that an internet thing?
Who is the "them" you are referring to?
US Taxpayers? Because you're right - I am mad. Mad that my government just senselessly murdered 150 children. You'd have to be a real submissive Trump bootlicker to not be mad at that.
Okay how about an account that’s over a year old homie? We’re liberating them by bombing their kids and polluting their air and water by blowing up their oil refiners?
Maybe we should let the Iranian people decide what they want? Oh yeah last time we let that happen in 1957 we overthrew their government .
That because you said it back like it was some sort of weird diss. I know it’s hard because it seems like you have a hard time with reading comprehension.
You like using AI? Ask it how things are going over there. Pick whichever you like. It’ll help you understand.
Also fuck Israeli and Iran and whoever else you’re gonna assume I’m a bot. Born and raised American “homie”
The most patriotic thing you can do as an American is criticize America.
My families been in this country since the 1700s pal, WV born and raised, moved to the north east.
What part of our nation are you from bud?
The part that actually served. And I could care less about your fake claims of being here since the 1700’s. But you’re right about the criticism part. Fuck WV and your BS claims.
Awh is the babies feelings hurt?
Can I offer you a pepperoni roll in your time of need? Go keep calling people bots who you don’t agree with thinking it makes you superior. You have shitty opinions and shitty morals.
>I want the Iranian people to not be killed in the tens of thousands whenever they voice their opinions. Is that really so bad?
then you should be vocal about not wanting opposing countries' agents inserting themselves among these people and inciting violence and insurrection
>Why when their government was killing over 10,000’s of thousand after protest?
.....because inciting demonstrators to violence and insurrection gets them killed? Sorry, I thought that went without saying. The proportion of deceased who were killed at/around police stations, for example...
>You’re wasting your time with facts. Just laugh point and report.
I never waste the time, mostly because I don't want them then stalking me doing the same thinking they have a score to settle has happened more than once this topic draws out the zealots
Guess your mom nevwr told you that two wrongs don't make a right.
Killing more Iranians isn't doing anything positive for anyone that's not on the Epstein files.
The last protests were caused by market traders protests the economic conditions. The US/CIA engineered a shortage of dollars in the black economy to hopefully trigger protests. So they played a hand in the deaths of the protestors.
One reason Iran wants a nuke is because Israel has them and the believe they would use them in Iran.
How about they take the jukes off Israel and try to calm the whole region down.
>Insider info from a Russian bot? Hilarious.
bessent has publicly acknowledged it bud... (unless you mean israel having nukes? Is that your contention? lol you are being such a clown in this thread it's honestly embarrassing if you're an actual redditor / not on the job right now)
>The last protests were caused by market traders protests the economic conditions. The US/CIA engineered a shortage of dollars in the black economy to hopefully trigger protests. So they played a hand in the deaths of the protestors.
Bessent publicly acknowledged that they did this (and for that reason) on *two* separate occasions, so far as ive seen, honestly amazed me but hey props for being honest
Two things can be true at the same time: the Iranian regime is a repressive theocracy and the United States is engaging in massive crimes by bombing Iran. There are no good guys here, only multiple sets of bad guys killing innocent people who just want to go about their lives and care for their families in peace.
They didn’t kill tens of thousands of their own people in a matter of weeks. Only a complete moron would believe shit that is clearly being used to manufacture consent.
Holy shit what a perennially online clown.
And no you haven't. Anyone on the ground will tell you their own horror stories from any part of the nation. Bodies lined up on the ground, Basij and the police hunting people down, hiding to survive.
You mean hiding from the Mossad agents that were killing police and civilians there? The ones Lindsay Graham himself was cheering on from his comfy seat in the Senate?
If the government is so barbarically repressive, why are there millions of people marching in solidarity all over the country even as we are bombing them?
Dawg I spent weeks in Iran, and you are so far detached from reality that arguing with you would be like shouting at an IRGC mural, hoping that it can register anything. Have a good day.
Oh really who’s this one? 😂
https://preview.redd.it/ld9kc651okpg1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da8a5243038bddb621d0374fead3f17e087cf05d
Nice posts dude. Really selling it here huh?
Don’t know bitch I am not posting on r/collapse
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Oh shit isn’t this your last post?
Ooops…. 🤣🤣🤣
Sure, and it’s not about one negating the other, it’s about the attitude and perception of America. I travel abroad often, and the first thing I’m asked when folks realize I’m American is how I feel about our dear leader. Our goodwill and reputation has been thoroughly stained in the eyes of the world, and it won’t be easily earned back.
This is the most sound comment here. There are two groups of assholes at play here. They are both in the wrong.
The only people defending one side or the other here exclusively are trolls.
Do you not find it a little sad that you can't actually answer anyone's comments. Just going on about "your account is too new" "you posted in the ace Ventura subreddit" going on an unhinged rant about supervisors and such which frankly is only eye opening to the fact you probably have a supervisor which is why you can't contextualize the fact other people don't.
Don't use the deaths of the protestors to try and appear as if you care about the people of Iran whilst supporting the bombing of their schools, hospitals and homes. It's frankly pathetic
Now might be a good time to remind you that our regime change wars always fail. And that Afghanistan just legalized the slavery of women. That's our track record on freeing women in the Middle East. Slavery. Also. Capitalism does nothing for virtue. Our government isn't in Iran spending 1 Billion a day to free poor oppressed people. We're there because Iran has the third largest Oil reserves in the world after Venezuela. And we're also there because Israel has expansionist land stealing goals as a part of their political ambitions. Israel's plans include destabilizing almost every country in the middle east so they can invade and take land for their greater Israel project. They feel entitled to Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon and Iran was the only one with a standing army large enough to oppose them and prevent their expansionism country theft.
If you think this war is about freedom you must have been born yesterday. And not lived through 9/11.
I would be so upset if they disrupted the companies that harbor student loan debt. Like super furious. DO YOU HEAR THAT IRANIAN HACKERS?? Sallie Mae. Just soooo mad…
Most people outside the US don't realize that college debt (should be called *university* debt) is one of the many things that can land us on the street.
Of course, most countries have free or, at least, comparatively cheap higher education.
It's kind of a bit of a hydra problem:
1) the government won't allow an 18 year old to drink a beer but they'll let them sign up on $100k of debt
2) the government subsidizes student loans, incentivising colleges to raise tuition
3) we allow loans that far exceed the estimated market value of the degree. The number of people who can get an art degree at $100k and then actually get a job in their field making sufficient income to pay that loan off is laughably small
Iran has said that they don't have any beef with the American people, their beef is with the people who lead us. Just tell them, if they want to attack America's leadership, they have to attack the money. Iran, you should go after the people who hold our student debts, medical debts, and credit card debt!!!
Eliminate the debts out of the system and watch as Americans become your biggest fan. This would also release the chains on us as well and freedom would ring.
All I can say is of course they are! Duh! The sky isn't falling, they did this before with the Shamoon cyber attack against Saudi Aramco in 2012. Why is this a surprise? Water is wet, look at somewhat recent history?
Gaslighting isn’t the best tactic on the internet when everything is archived. You deleted a comment on an Indian subreddit 47 minutes after your initial reply to my comment and I have been calling out Indian astroturfing all day. Do you really think it’s gone?
This isn’t the first Indian shill trying to do this. For anyone interested look at the previous deleted comments on this thread. The real question is why Indian troll farms are shilling for Russian interests.
Lol, both Russia and China have been funding hackers for many, many years.
The US tech companies are some of the most valuable targets in the world, they've been attacked essentially daily. Only a tiny percentage gets through.
Defense is a very active activity, Google or whomever isn't trying defense by obscurity, hoping no one knows about them or that the US is always in everybodies good graces
Assuming there are free and fair elections, or at the very least the public sentiment is able to overcome any interference Trump tries to do anyway, the government is doing an excellent job in handing the election to Democrats. I bet any GOP politician running for office with any amount of common sense or decency is probabky irate (even if secretly) with the administration for making their midterm race that much harder.
No they expect it from aged account with higher karma because it’s an obvious sign they were bought off the stolen market. Do you really think you’re fooling anyone?
Oh no projection! 😂 why did you feel the need to delete your comment from r/indianmemers before the reply tho?
Do you really think the rest of your comments are ok?
I have no idea what you’re on about but it sounds like bit jibberish. Enjoy the rest of your shift astroturfing this thread while I unsubscribe from your rants. We all know you’ll be banned by afternoon and I’ll still be here like I have been for years.
I have no idea what you’re on about but it sounds like bit jibberish. Enjoy the rest of your shift astroturfing this thread while I unsubscribe from your rants. We all know you’ll be banned by afternoon and I’ll still be here like I have been for years.
How foolish are the people to think they are being attacked because of "contracts"
If you are in the range of drones and missiles, whether one support, against or taking a neutral stance toward the war, doesn't matter much difference
You ARE the valid target, not because what you did, but for you are within reach
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