going from i5 12400F to i7-14700KF worth it?
Posted by kai-hope@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Hi, I just wanted to ask is it worth it to go from a I5 12400F to a i7 14700KF worth it for gaming?
I like to play theses games:
Fortnite
Rocket League
COD
Valorant
Rust
Roblox
I know for gaming I should get a x3d CPU because I want to get into more comp games and Rust likes L3 cache but I do not want to go through the effort of changing my entire motherboard around and also the DDR5 Ram prices are to much for me.
So should I do the upgrade? or not.
My PC rn:
GPU : RTX 5070
DDR4 16GB RAM
CPU : I5-12400
Hawk7117@reddit
It would be an upgrade, but I don't think the cost is worth the gaming performance increase tbh.
Hang onto the 12400f for now and save that $300+ you were planning on spending on the i7, for as little at $600 you can get a solid x3d bundle that would have a massive impact on some games. I think that would be far more worthwhile than staying on the LGA 1700 socket.
DerpDeDurp@reddit
in what world can you get an x3d bundle for $600 lmao
Hawk7117@reddit
Well this 7800x3d bundle with 32gb of ram and nice mobo is $599.
So, this world I guess.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007341/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b850-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-corsair-vengeance-rgb-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
Notable mention for the 7600x3d bundle that is $399 as well.
DerpDeDurp@reddit
7600x3d is pointless. 7800 minimum. And that bundle is normally over $800 lol, great deal for sure, if you're in America paying with USD lol. For most the world, not a viable option.
Hawk7117@reddit
Completely disagree on the 7600x3d being pointless.
Many people dont need the extra multicore grunt on a ryzen 7 and just want the gaming boost X3D can provide at the lowest cost possible.
I currently am using a 7600x3d and it is fantastic paired with my 5070.
DerpDeDurp@reddit
it's pointless in terms of swapping platforms for, which is the entire context of this thread. Swapping an entire platform for such little gains is incredibly stupid. Use your brain.
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
Do you think I you could send me a bundle if you could find one? im having a hard time with just the ddr5 ram thats all but if you know where to find a nice bundle with x3d as I want to get into rust the most it would be helpful
likely_deleted@reddit
The 14700k will be great to replace the 12400f. Then better when you jump to ddr5. You dont need to spend the money on a premium x3d cpu.
The new core ultra 7 refresh looks great on paper and is like $300. You would need a new mobo and ddr5 going that route.
The talk of end of life cpus/sockets is kind of dumb imho, especially when considering how long a powerful one will last and the jumps in performance just being tacked onto something that is already an amazing performer. People scoff at an eol cpu but ignore that the motherboard replacement is not very expensive.
Hawk7117@reddit
EOL on LGA 1700 is one of the considerations, its also that the 12th gen was pretty much the one launch for that socket that was not still riddled with issues.
Take your pick. Wildly heavy temps and power draw (compared to zen 4/5), Microcode issues, which have been claimed to be resolved half a dozen times now with many people still reporting lingering around even on current bios versions. 13th/14th gen Oxidation issues on the IHS.
There are a few benefits that LGA 1700 had, namely the option for either DDR4 and DDR5 to be used in the current market, but my compliments mostly end there.
Given all those issues, I wouldn't recommend spending money on upgrading your LGA 1700 system. Sure the 14700k is a good margin faster than the 12400f, but you are still sinking money into a chip and platform riddled with issues from small to large.
likely_deleted@reddit
That a well-stated summary that was definitely a point of contention. Theres nothing wrong with this system or late production cpus now lol. Its all ironed out. A tad power hungry? Sure, just apply a slight undervolt.
Hawk7117@reddit
Are you in the US and near a Microcenter? They are in stock there all the time and even offer their exclusive 7600x3d bundle which is a fantastic value for gamers who don't need the extra cores on the 7800x3d and 9800x3d.
Short of that, Newegg does run some bundle deals from time to time but they are far more scarce and typically will only be up for a few hours at a time before going out of stock.
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
Hey im not in the USA im actually in the UK but I could try and look for some soon.
Nohope133@reddit
I agree
Gutter_Flies@reddit
If I were you, I’d look and see what the prices on the 14600k are before doing that. Small difference from the 14700k in most gaming while often being significantly cheaper.
The 12400f ought to be able to carry you well enough in gaming until the first year or two of am6 or new intel and ddr6 though, if you wanted to just save your money for a brand new platform in stead.
DuckIing@reddit
I saw a quick video on YouTube, and at 1080p it looks like about a 10% increase in fps. I’m just throwing out a random number, but think the fps is 200 FPS to 220 FPS. At 1440p and 4K, the gains are even smaller. It’s not worth the upgrade, and if anything, I’d save for an X3D chip. I saw another video (typed i5 12400f vs 7800x3d) showing a 44% increase at 1440p in Silent Hill F.
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
Yeah I might just try and save up for a bit and get the x3d chip its just going to be a pain swapping motherboards smh😂
DuckIing@reddit
Rumors say am6 will release in 2027-2028. You could wait for that.
Head_Exchange_5329@reddit
That amount of L3 cache isn't going to do much for Rust. I'm on 5700X3D and rust is still something of a mess, also with RTX 5070 to boot. System memory though, Rust eats that for breakfast. I saw 28 GB system memory in use the last time I ran Rust, so probably more than anything, RAM would be a better though bad time to upgrade.
Imaginary-Bench9824@reddit
What is the price difference for a 13600KF or 14600KF? These 2 are amazing gaming CPUs and probably cheaper than the i7
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
Ill have a look into it, thank you.
Withinmyrange@reddit
Just seems like a needless upgrade. Are you actually struggling to run any of these games? Your current cpu should be capable of getting decent numbers for all of them.
Consider a monitor upgrade?
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
The only game I struggle with running is Rust but thats one of the top games I would want to play, as you know in rust it needs alot of l3 cache so thats why I need to go to the x3d chip but even for rust to get a good 150fps+ ill need to go to a AM5 motherboard
dwarfzulu@reddit
I wouldn't.
shazneg@reddit
Depends on the cost. Since your mobo and ram can be reused it could be a great upgrade.
WherePoetryGoesToDie@reddit
You can currently get a 14600KF from B&H for $230. If I was in your situation, with that 5070, I'd probably make the upgrade.
Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core LGA 1700 BX8071514600KF
That said, it also depends on what sort of motherboard you have. If it doesn't have robust VRMs (and I'm willing to bet it doesn't, if you originally bought it with the 12400), it may throttle the CPU performance to the point that the upgrade may be entirely pointless.
t90fan@reddit
not unless you are one of the people who wants to get hundreds of FPS and has money to burn, tbh
especially not worth it give the cost of DDR5
I'm hanging onto my 11700K for the same reason
kai-hope@reddit (OP)
Tbh I do want to get hundreds of FPS 😂but I mostly want to do a little upgrade as sometimes I have a bottle neck in games i play.