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How many of you say 'brown bread' when refering to someone as dead?

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Trulie_Scrumptious@reddit

I’m a cockney by birth with family from there. Never heard it once except when imitating Del Trotter from Only Fools and Horses
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ptarran@reddit

Na, its brown bread is that old saying!
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TheLemonChiffonPie@reddit

We’d just say brown. (East London) ‘Did you not hear? He’s brown’
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

Is there any cockney youth left in East London?
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GingerPrince72@reddit

Strickly speaking I say “brown breid “
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Indigo-Waterfall@reddit

I’ve never said this phrase or heard someone say this phrase in my entire life living in the UK. That being said I don’t live in an old cockney sitcom.
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

Im shocked, ive always heard it. Wherebouts do u live. I live in the South East.
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Jaded-Skill5126@reddit

Irish here I’ve heard “Tatty bread” (as in potato bread) but never brown bread for dead
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Nick_chops@reddit

Nope. Popped it, or snuffed it are current faves. At my age i'm using them ever more frequently.
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Correct-Goose1158@reddit

Still use it, just as I use “drum” (house) and others. Depending on where you grew up it can be quite common
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RadiantTown9154@reddit

Never ever but I’m not a 110 year old pearly king 
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LithiuMart@reddit

Someone should make this popular on TikTok. Gen Z might start using it and send the cringeworthy "unalive" into the history books.
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ScheduleScary3747@reddit

In Scotland we say Pan breed - deed
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pm_me_your_amphibian@reddit

Not at all
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Alternative-Let8855@reddit

We say aye he’s ‘pan breed’ in parts of Scotland fairly often. Mostly with humour. So never said about a loved one, more like a celebrity you thought was alive and shocked to find out they are in fact pan breed.
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xxbtmxx@reddit

When my child was about 4, I picked her up from my sister's house and she told me that Auntie Joanne's cat was 'brown bread'. (He'd been run over that day). I've no idea where she had heard it 🤣
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Mattypants05@reddit

We just say they're Hovis instead...
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Western_Disaster_118@reddit

In Ireland it's 'tatey bread', as in potato bread.
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MoHeeKhan@reddit

Brown bread. Buttered. With Harry. On the boat.
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shadow-season@reddit

Cockneys and cockney wannabes would use it, but nobody else.
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

Ive always used and I never knew it was cockney, same with the slang word 'porkies'.
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

Pork pies - lies. Old cockney rhyming slang. Very few people under 85 use rhyming slang any more. How old are you, where do you live/come from, and why do you have this fascination with London slang?
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weedywet@reddit

Plenty of Londoners “under 85” use at least some cockney slang. Even if they don’t think of it as cockney You’ve never heard someone call someone a Berk?
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sometimes_point@reddit

Not heard it in my life
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Present_Program6554@reddit

Broon breid
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jaggy_bunnet@reddit

Jimmy Reid.
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Cosmic-Hippos@reddit

"there will be no bevvying"
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Pan, no broon. Only ponces ate broon. 😂
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moidartach@reddit

100% pan breid
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Cosmic-Hippos@reddit

Ye canny put a square slice sausage on pan breed, its sacrilege 🤣
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Present_Program6554@reddit

You're too young to remember. Broon was for the common folk. White was for the wealthy.
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Ya daftie, born in '58, am 68 this year, but thanks for the chuckles. 🤪😂😂
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Present_Program6554@reddit

You're an eejit.
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Fearless-Hedgehog661@reddit

*Pan* breid, awfu' fantoosh ur ye no'? Plain breid wi' broon, the broon bein' sauce.
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

😂
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MiddleElevator96@reddit

And corned beef for deef.
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Cosmic-Hippos@reddit

In Scotland we say "broon breed"
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Tonybham01@reddit

It’s a very old and largely unused example of rhyming slang.
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Harlzter@reddit

I used to do, but it didn't go down well at the crem when I asked people how toasted they wanted their brown bread.
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AussieHxC@reddit

Dead eh
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spank_monkey_83@reddit

Cor blimey govnor
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The_Sh3r1ff@reddit

Friends group started using burnt toast during Covid. 
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

Is burnt toast cockney?
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The_Sh3r1ff@reddit

No. But their thinking was burnt toast, ghost
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

No. It sounds like a misunderstanding of how the rhyming part of rhyming slang works
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APithyComment@reddit

London thing
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RevolutionaryOil8785@reddit

Pan breed, deed
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_isolati0n@reddit

Was looking for this answer, never heard brown bread but we always said pan breed growing up
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Present_Program6554@reddit

Broon breid. Pan loafs were for folk too posh to say that. They talked wae bools in their mooths
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phoebean93@reddit

I saw a bakery called Brown Bread Bakery the other day and chuckled thinking it was a questionable name.
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wildflower12345678@reddit

Its a saying that is known but I never said it myself or heard it said in person. I think it might be from east end of London rhyming slang.
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Nevernonethewiser@reddit

All the cockney wide boys who would have used it regularly are brown bread now.
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Danmoz81@reddit

Actually, I think you'll find Brown Bread Fred just celebrated his 94th birthday a week ago
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Nevernonethewiser@reddit

Bloody hell. Right, well there's one left who'd describe all of his associates as brown bread.
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

Lol, yes! I was going to say 'only old cockneys who are over 100 years old'!
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Jimmyboro@reddit

I used it in a comment few weeks or months ago and some people were loving that they 'found it in the wild'
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Jazzlike-Basil1355@reddit

I do. There is a place in Sussex called Brown Bread Street. I’m dying to go there
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andycwb1@reddit

Very dated, would only use ironically.
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CrocodileJock@reddit

I, and my mates will occasionally say "hovis" but not "brown bread". As in "Did you hear about Ian Huntley?" "Hovis?" "Yep" (Hovis is a brand name of a company that makes brown bread).
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Popular_Mousse_3958@reddit

I use it. I’m 40 and of Cockney origin. My whole family use it. It’s not a very sensitive or respectful way of referring to a death. So would be used for very mention of a passing.
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greggers1980@reddit

Not me. I've used jed
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wulf357@reddit

Nope
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unk1ndm4g1c14n1@reddit

You can really tell which comments here dont know about the resurgence of cockney rhyming slang and which do. And I'm willing to bet its the old men and women here who refuse to get with the times. Reddit is a great old geriatric home.
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

>who refuse to get with the times. Not so much refuse to as have no need or wish to. We don't all need to jump on every passing fad
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unk1ndm4g1c14n1@reddit

Its harmless. Like you guys genuinely find so much annoying and complain about so much- life must be exhausting. Fads are harmless fun you can have with friends, inside jokes and shit. What happened in your life to make you this way? Did you forget what being young is like? Why is it that every older generation despises their youngers? Come on man... be better
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

Dude, where did I say it annoys me? Where did I say people can't have fun with it? I just said that as we get older we usually don't feel the need to join short-lived fads. I didn't say others were wrong for doing so. >What happened in your life to make you this way? Did you forget what being young is like? Why is it that every older generation despises their youngers? You are making a lot of assumptions there. >What happened in your life to make you this way? 'This way' is not what you seem to be assuming. 'This way' is either not noticing youngsters new fads or noticing but not needing to join in. No slight on anyone. It just doesn't affect our lives. Unless our grandchildren participate, in which case we might be mildly amused. >Did you forget what being young is like? Nope. And being older doesn't mean we are curmudgeonly, as you seem to be suggesting. >Why is it that every older generation despises their youngers? Wow, dude. Check your own perceptions there. That's not remotely true. And if you think that 'not getting with the times' about things that are a passing fashion equates to people despising you, then you are the one who needs to 'do better'. Learn not to generalise whole generations. Learn the difference between 'not even noticing what slang the kids are using this year' and 'despising you'. But don't worry, you probably will 'do better' in a few years time.
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

I am a teenager lol, I didn't know there was a resurgence. Can u tell me more?
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unk1ndm4g1c14n1@reddit

Theres not much to say. Lies are Porky Pies. Stairs are Apple and Pears etc. They just take a word and turn it into a pair of words, the 2nd word rhymes with the orignal word and the 1st word shares consonants with the original word (or alliteration)
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

Sometimes the slang word is an extra step away from the original word. 'Arris -> Aristotle. Aristotle -> bottle Bottle and glass -> arse.
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PlanetSwallower@reddit

Onky as a joke. If you've not grown up with it - and I wouldn't be able to say how many people have, really - cockney rhyming slang is just for occasional giggles.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

There some words that I've grown up with that weren't used for comedic effect and I didn't even realise were rhyming slang.   A suit was always a whistle. The piano was the Joanna. Titfer was your hat. Donkeys meant a long time. Pony meant crap. Jacks meant on your own. Lies were Porkies.  Bread was the word for money as far as I was concerned. I never heard Brown bread for dead until quite recently, as a kind of cockney joke.
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PlanetSwallower@reddit

As you say, you grew up with it. Porkie pies is the only example I can immediately think of, of rhyming slang that's entered the wider language.
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moon-bouquet@reddit

Blowing raspberries - for raspberry tart = fart.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Cobblers meaning rubbish or lies is pretty widespread as well, I think. 
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PlanetSwallower@reddit

Oh, that's true! Actually, it didn't occur to me that that was rhyming slang.
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romeo__golf@reddit

All of this. Also "bubble" to mean a joke (bubble bath = laugh, so "you're having a bubble, right?" was a common question). Brown bread very much feels like a mockney thing, not something anyone uses.
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daveoxford@reddit

Everybody knows the phrase, but it's very dated; I don't think anybody says it in usual speech unless they're doing it deliberately for comic effect.
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Single-Aardvark9330@reddit

I've never heard it before
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daveoxford@reddit

Well, I did say it was dated - you're probably much younger than me!
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Its clearly an age thing. I never heard it in the wild, to me it sounds like middle class mockney, but the youngest of my proper cockney relations is 80 now. 
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MolassesInevitable53@reddit

>it sounds like middle class mockney, Nah. Definitely old school cockney. Pronounced 'brahn bred'.. The youngest of my 'proper cockney' relatives would be 103 if he were still alive, and he would have thought only people older than him used it.
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daveoxford@reddit

It's definitely old school Cockney, rather than modern rhyming slang
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

I am a teenager not from london and it has always been used by my family
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

It's like Apples and Pears or Dog and Bone though. I've never heard anyone say either of those except as a joke. 
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Present_Program6554@reddit

It's Scots rhyming
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

I still use it and Im a teenager
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Not dated at all. We'd probably go with just brown, rather than brown bread.
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

So you just calling people brown? Lol
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Yeah 🤣. "Terry Yorath's brown, yeah?"
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

I still use it whenever someone died in a movie or gets rekt
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Sad_Cardiologist5388@reddit

I wouldn't use cockney rhyming slang as a Yorkshire man
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Toad_da_Unc@reddit

Lizzie is brown bread
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Euphoric_Rough_5245@reddit

Unless they were cremated and then they’d be toast.
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BurkesRoad@reddit

It's not specifically cockney. Everyone says it in Glasgow.
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Pan breid...deid.
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Present_Program6554@reddit

It was broon because pan was for posh people who talked pan loafy and would say deceased or passed away.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Good Lord you two, just get a room.
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Present_Program6554@reddit

Go fuck yourself
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ThePineappleSeahorse@reddit

Do we? I’ve never heard anyone say it in reference to someone being dead.
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DrMacAndDog@reddit

Usually pronounced “brown breed”
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amBrollachan@reddit

Or just "he's broon".
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weebretzel@reddit

i'm in ayrshire and say "pan breed" = deid
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colin_staples@reddit

As I am not Danny Dyer, no I don’t say it
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Tricky_Routine_7952@reddit

17,000?
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

What
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LeatherLatexSteel@reddit

Mother's Pride. Died. Brown bread. Dead.
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D3M0NArcade@reddit

Can't say I do. But it's still a million times better than "unalived". Stupid shit word
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cat5crochet5femme@reddit

Nope but I’m not from London, we don’t use it in the North.
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hepheastus_87@reddit

Yep we do use this, it's not a respectful way to say someones dead though so be careful where/when you use it
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sloppypooisyum@reddit (OP)

I am British and still use it lol
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TheDawiWhisperer@reddit

My dad used to. Sadly he's now brown bread
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N64Andysaurus92@reddit

Never nor have I ever heard anyone say it in real life.
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YchYFi@reddit

It's never used.
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YchYFi@reddit

It's never used.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

None. Noone says it. 
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Yes we do, ta
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Coming, as I do, from a family of cockneys from Camden Town and the Old Kent Road, including a great Aunt who was born on Lambeth Walk, I have never heard anyone say that in my 50 years of being alive, except on the telly. Noone actually talks about a real life dead person that way. 
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Well I've just told you I do. As do my mates, and we're all Lambeth/Southwark borders.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

I've only heard people say that specific phrase as a joke parody of how people think 'cockneys' talk. But if you talk like that then I guess the parody has become real.
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Maybe i'm a little more common than you. Maybe it is more orevalent for people who grew up on an estate.. Maybe you had a bit of a sheltered upbringing. Who knows? Maybe you weren't qualified to speak for every Londoner
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Maybe I'm just older and the language has changed. I did grow up on an estate. 
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Volley-Boat@reddit

I'm not young, I was rattling around the estate in the 80s and 90s. State school. Mates all of the same social class. Always out as kid. Lots of factors.
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

This is beginning to sound like a cockney version of the Yorkshire men sketch now.
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Ha. There's another commenter from Poplar who backs me up. Would also say the group of lads I know from Waterloo, Borough and Bermondsey would also back thi. Maybe it is a slice of London, East and Southeast, zones 1 and 2
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Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit

Yes, or maybe I just never heard anyone say it, and theres probably loads of things people say in real life that I've never noticed them saying.
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Agreed. I lived in Poplar and then the Mile End Road for a while and it was in common use and I often use it or the Scots broon breid.
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Seems we may be a bit more common than most! There's caveats of course. I'm not going to say to someone "Sorry your Mum is brown, John". But i'd say "Thatcher's brown"
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Snowy_Sasquatch@reddit

If you don’t live in East London, then probably nobody. For those who do live there, probably a small percentage but are much more likely to know its meaning.
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FluidTemperature1762@reddit

I use it my dad taught it to me but he's in his 60s now
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User-1967@reddit

I use the phrases 6 feet under or passed over, would never say someone is brown bread
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

The Scottish slang is 'pan bread', another type of loaf.
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moidartach@reddit

Pan bread? You sure?
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Very. Pan breid..deid.
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Present_Program6554@reddit

Nope. It's broon. Poor people bought broon as it was cheaper. Pan was the most expensive.
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moidartach@reddit

So not pan bread at all then
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Orange_Codex@reddit

It's specifically Cockney. I've done it because my nan did (she lived in Peckham), but it's not common.
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Present_Program6554@reddit

It's Scots as well.
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bcfc2402@reddit

Cockneys.......It's rhyming slang
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Professional-Put4394@reddit

Common enough expression.. at least around London.
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Purple-Hamster499@reddit

Kicked the Bucket. Crocked it. Snuffed it. Popped their Clogs.
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deanomatronix@reddit

Occasionally in social settings but less so when working in a hospice
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Must be a quandry for undertakers.
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Lollypop1305@reddit

Nah most of us just say “dead” or “deceased” 😂
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Unalived is one that makes me laugh. 🤪
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Lollypop1305@reddit

I hate that one 😂 I also can’t cope with “passed away” but I’m more understanding of that as it’s universal.
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Jimmy_KSJT@reddit

The only time I ever heard it used to inform someone of a recent death was when my dad used it to describe the racing driver Roland Ratzenberger.
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confusedoctopus8@reddit

It's cockney rhyming slang I assume
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Legitimate_Abies_640@reddit

I know one person who talks like that and he's full on old skool cockney with a colourful past shall we say.  Outside of that group really nobody talks like it. That was kinda the point, people wouldn't understand unless they were from that area 
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bloomsburysquare@reddit

About 20 years ago when I was living in Manchester some poor guy got run over by a truck. I walked past the scene and overheard a couple of builder types say very jovially "he's brown breaded" which I thought was in terrible taste, and was also a really odd way of using the phrase from a grammar point of view. I don't think I've ever heard the phrase in the wild since
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BritishEngBrittany@reddit

I still use this quite often!
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DinkyPrincess@reddit

People don’t really tend to talk in Cockney rhyming slang too much.
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FidelityBob@reddit

Surely a proper cockney would say someone was "brown", dropping the rhyming word.
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PomegranateV2@reddit

I'm in Somerset and I've heard it and used it myself. It's not always terrible appropriate or grammatical to use it in a sentence though.
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becpuss@reddit

Never
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PhysicsAgitated6722@reddit

Only in a joking manner. If it's good news, I refer to them as being unalived. Saville, Epstein, and more recently, Huntly fell into that category.
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MidasToad@reddit

Nope, I would be confused by that phrase if someone said it without context e.g. they had been terminally ill. I would use 'died' or 'passed away'.
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Dependent-Net-8208@reddit

No, but I will say that someone has , "pegged it"
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surfrider0007@reddit

“Pegged it” is used to describe running off where I live. I’ve never heard it describe dying.
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SoggyWotsits@reddit

Pegged it/snuffed it were traditionally used for dying. I think pegged instead of legged for running away is more common in the slightly younger generation.
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Fred_Blogs_2020@reddit

I know pegged it as dead too
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OccasionStrong9695@reddit

My partner says it (male, mid-40s, grew up in south west England - I think he just thinks it’s funny). I wouldn’t, and I don’t really hear it other than from him, but it’s a well known phrase.
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Volley-Boat@reddit

Any newly-deceased amous person is announced as being brown among my friends. Common Londoner.
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RadicalDilettante@reddit

Kicked the bucket; Popped their clogs - both more common in Yorkshire.
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Dead_Letters_7203@reddit

Yes, he's brown bread - he's croaked, snuffed it, pushing up daisies, taking a dirt nap. He's stiff as a board, bereft of life - he rests in peace, he's kicked the bucket, shuffled of this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin choir invisible. THIS IS AN EX-PERSON!
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Neat-Ostrich7135@reddit

I don't think i have heard anyone say that in over 30 years
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MirrorTotal893@reddit

Still hear it occasionally. Bit dated now
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TSC-99@reddit

Heard it but don’t use it
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LopsidedLobster2@reddit

I know it but wouldn’t use it much. I do call people ex parrots though
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BigMarcus83@reddit

Pan breid
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Salt-Negotiation7534@reddit

Exactly.
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Gary_Garibaldi@reddit

I do regularly but ironically for comedy purposes. Infact, sometimes I just send an emoji of a brown bread loaf. Did you hear about the Ayatollah? 🥖
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TemporaryLucky3637@reddit

lol I say it in the North East of England
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Xenozip3371Alpha@reddit

The only time I have ever heard it was a British parody character in Borderlands The Pre-Sequel.
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scootaboy@reddit

I definitely used to.
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Sad-Nectarine-7855@reddit

Only the food reviewers with their fake working class mockney accents say that
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Ruby-Shark@reddit

Never heard it in the wild 
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Dull-Feeling5895@reddit

Not heard anyone say it for about 20 years. Seems a bit dated now.
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bananabastard@reddit

I mean, I have said it, but it's not the phrase I'd choose typically.
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jeezontorst@reddit

I think most likely only used by a number of blokes in a certain age group in a certain area of London. 
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BetterDegreeOxford@reddit

I’m a septic and even I know that one’s shit
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Jojo6167@reddit

Yes, we do
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LandOfTheFaros@reddit

I don’t think I’ve ever used the term in conversation, and rarely if ever heard it in person.  
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llynglas@reddit

Never used it. Never heard it
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weedywet@reddit

He’s well hovis
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Lost-Droids@reddit

Its common enough that there's a Instagram page for it.. This is the only use of AI I approve of Instagram https://share.google/La6eebYGLwiD6tN9F
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qualityvote2@reddit

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