[OPTIC] Vortex Defender XL 5 MOA $199.99 + Tax - Free Shipping
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Their Black Friday deal is back!
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Their Black Friday deal is back!
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For anyone still looking at this deal, Amex has a $30 off Scheels offer and Cap One Shopping has $50 off. Combined they take an additional $80 off an already good sale price to bring the cost down to $130. Mega BIN
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Tracking made but hasn't shipped yet
68spcwhore@reddit
Same. Slow ass shipping
Gusso45@reddit
Looks good for me. Ordered yesterday and tracking says it will be here Sunday
sbudbud@reddit
check for actual movement, i ordered friday said it was going to be here monday but it seems they pre print the labels and it just actually being shipped today, a week later
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It is moving already. It's in KC now, Charleston expected on Sunday.
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They actuially shipped it today
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Dude same. Just had to complain on Reddit lol
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I've been looking for another sale on the Vortex Defender XL and I'm glad I found it! I recently bought a Ruger Mark lV Target and I'm making it suitable for Bullseye shooting. Dropped in a Volquartsen Competition kit and this will be the cherry on top!
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How weird. If I logout it’s $199 but if I’m logged in this shows $359.99.
DejaJaws@reddit
Same. Was told it’s cause of my MIL discount. It auto reverts to it rather than sale prices. Pretty dumb.
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Is there a way around this without having to create a new account?
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I just logged out and bought it that way. You can have them add the order to your account after the fact.
Supetition4rad@reddit
I just called, cs open on Sunday, they just changed the price in my cart. Checked out with out issue
blank_dota2@reddit
Yeah I accused them of not liking veterans anymore. Let’s see if that likes a firecracker on their asses to fix this.
ilikebirriatacos@reddit
same here
CharredScallions@reddit
Can’t wait for some dorks to post this on Tacswap for like $275 or whatever they did last time Scheels ran this deal
Lucky-Fan-6411@reddit
No ship to CA RIP
Longjumping_Ad_6870@reddit
Call bass pro and price match just picked up a couple
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Thanks for the heads up rip
stockking_34@reddit
Now I have three of these, they are great optics
69420blazeit_org_edu@reddit
Alright, what should I put this on?
I have a P-10C with an EPS, a TX-22 with a Cylee Cat Pro that kinda sucks, and a 13.9 AR with an LPVO that I could 45 mount this lol. Pretty sure I could move the EPS to the TX22 and buy a DPP plate for the P-10 C.
Or make poor financial decisions and buy something heavy and comped. Seems like all the affordable XC knockoffs are RMR footprint though.
clicktoseemyfetishes@reddit
My Tisas 2011 is RMSc cut so I’ve really had trouble deciding on what to do for a competition oriented dot lol
69420blazeit_org_edu@reddit
RMSMax or whatever? Or that Gideon judge? I think Vector also makes a big one now
kickzNblickz@reddit
I got the Gideon judge XL for my Tisas B9R it’s cool so far but I only have 1 range trip with it…also doesn’t fit out the box. I have a print a spacer. They sell a metal one which would be my preference for $15, but it’s sold out.
clicktoseemyfetishes@reddit
Not familiar with all the smaller brands of red dots either so I barely know what I’m looking at with all those. I might just have to show up to a match and see what everyone’s using besides the usual
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The Defender ST is the more appropriate size for the P-10C imo. That's what I use and it's great. I have an XL on my SP-01.
69420blazeit_org_edu@reddit
Yeah the full size EPS feels right on my P-10C
angrynoah@reddit
need that sweet sweet 8moa
CptMaxPower@reddit
If money is no object, this or a 507/407 Comp?
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I vastly prefer the (8moa) Defender XL to the 507Comp. I'm sure I'll like the 407Comp better, but I prefer big dots so the Defender still has the edge.
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I'm a competition shooter and I prefer the 2 MOA version so I've been passing on this deal (don't know where the "big MOA for competition" meme comes from, it's really just personal preference). Optically it's superior to the 507 Comp (don't know if the 407 Comp has any changes on that front). The biggest downside is that it seems to be way less durable. My fiance's XL died at a match about 1500 rounds in on a stock G47 and mine died after 4000 rounds total on a Shadow 2 with the most 1000 recent with arguably abusive springing (11 lbs with no shock buffer). You hear way more stories about XLs dying than 507 Comps. The warranty is stellar though and can get a new optic on your doorstep within a week.
I like them so much that I'll probably keep using them (...and especially since I'm kinda locked in since I direct milled my Shadow 2s), but I have to admit I've been eyeing the 507 Comps after my personal experiences.
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90% of the XL failures I've seen at stages was battery losing contact. The battery compartment is slightly oversized and over time the legs on the contact loose springiness and lose contact. A few layers of electric tape on the back of the battery to keep it more pressured down has solved all of mine issues.
Physically wise they are also the only large window dot that passed Sage Dymatic's drop tests, so I would say they are actually more durable with 507 comps.
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That's reassuring to hear. We tried that with my fiance's and it didn't work, but I didn't get the chance to try it on mine (which died last week) before sending it off.
I don't doubt the housing's durability, just wanted to note that the electronics seem to be Vortex's weak point.
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I had the loose battery contact issue on both my ST and COMPDOT that caused them to shut off. Others reported a flicker. I bought both during 2024 BF sales. I fixed both myself by gently prying up on the outer battery contacts.
Back in 2022 I read that some that shoot steel challenge like 8 MOA or larger dots. They claim the larger dot allows them to shoot faster. They just have to hit the steel while those shooting and needing to make some precise shots in other competitive shooting sports may prefer a much smaller dot. In some cases in the same competitive sport each person will have their own preference. At least Vortex eventually came out with the 3rd version with the smaller dot. Now we just need to see the same low price on it.
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Depends on usage. The Defenders are ridiculously nice to look through, especially for the price. Clarity and dot crispness is unbeaten IMO. That said, they are plagued with failure issues right now and seem to die fairly regularly at modest round counts. The good news is it is a Vortex so you will take care of you.
If you want an occasional shooter or a casual competition optic then this is really good but if you want a more serious optic with better reliability then I'd say Holosun.
Muth4741@reddit
Honestly, I like my defender xl and st better, it’s also nice to have a better warranty
D1g1talB0y@reddit
Same internal debate I am having for a competition pistol. I do like the idea of of the multi-reticle rings/dot on the 507Comp over just a dot.
Muth4741@reddit
i liked having the ring when i first started using dots cause it helped me find it easier, now i just use a regular dot all the time. the ring sorta clutters it up more
BboyTypeR@reddit
Great warranty, got a full refund because the night vision setting was still too bright (noticeable with naked eye) I know it’s a competition dot but still
Ninjaman427@reddit (OP)
I have 507comp a on both of my competition pistols, but that’s only because I purchased them prior to the first $199 sale on the compdots/XLs
Will say I’ve heard of the XLs failing in some situations but like Muth said vortex will take care of you every time and very quickly.
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I just got a practically new ST on new GAFS for $160, I don’t think you can find a better pistol dot that for money
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
I got in on a 2024 BF sale on the ST for $175 and got in on the COMPDOT sale at Scheels for $200. At most I may have seen the ST for $175 once or twice since.
APC9Proer@reddit
This man defends.
JustLurkingPCForums@reddit
I've converted everything over to Vortex just for the exemplary customer service. The last RMA I did with Holosun ran almost 2x their quoted lead time and when I politely asked for an update they got all pissy with me.
ARealHumanBeans@reddit
I like the XL glass. Its easier on my astigmatism, but its mostly the large moa that helps there. Had no issues with failures or anything.
jtj5002@reddit
I have both. The XL slightly better on lighter/higher recoil guns as it has a taller window.
The 407/507 comp is slightly better on heavier guns as the wider window helps with transitions with heavier guns.
And when I say slightly, I mean slightly.
StunningFig5624@reddit
507 comp just got obsoleted by the 407. The multi reticle stuff is a gimmick on a pistol and doesn't work well. You really either want a small dot (2-3 MOA) or a large dot (5-6 MOA) and that's all.
Between this and the 407 is probably going to be preference. Haven't looked through a 407 yet, but I have four 507 comps and three defender XLs on various guns. Other than the vortex dot being better than the Holosun reticle I don't really have a preference either way.
Electronic-Tea-3912@reddit
I love mine but it won't fit on any of my pistols. So now it just rides on my AR-10 diving board.
GavinNewsomsP365@reddit
Why not? I have 4 and they fit everything i have besides my direct cut for rmr pistols
Electronic-Tea-3912@reddit
They are RMR cut
100konmywristlifesux@reddit
vortex will send you an adapter under warranty, its sku is RDA-RMRDPP
RoyalSteele@reddit
What do you say to them to get a plate?
100konmywristlifesux@reddit
that it didn't fit my pistol due to it having a very tight cut specifically for the leupold dpp, that i saw social media reports of them giving out adapters, and that i needed two for two different pistols (all true btw)
ARealHumanBeans@reddit
Couldn't you just get an adapter plate?
GavinNewsomsP365@reddit
I wouldn’t, defenders are pretty tall decks already
Ninjaman427@reddit (OP)
These are DPP cut
Electronic-Tea-3912@reddit
Yes unfortunately, it is great on the ar10 though
yem68420@reddit
I think what he is saying is his personal pistol are rmr cut
D1g1talB0y@reddit
Went in just for this deal. Picked up the Venom Enclosed, Defender-XL, and a CZ Shadow 2 OR. Thanks OP!
mxguy762@reddit
Big spenda
Beneficial-Simple398@reddit
In for 1, thanks Op! Already have the Vortex Defender CCW, figured I'd get this knowing some day I'll shoot comp or put on nightstand gun.
DejaJaws@reddit
You're gonna love this dot if you already have the CCW. This one is crazy good for HD.
sbudbud@reddit
Capital One has 8% back for me, they had a 30% off but expired in February
SgtHop@reddit
Where's the 8% back? I just see 2% on the website
sbudbud@reddit
check the app
dottmatrix@reddit
In for one!
Muted_Goat4625@reddit
Waiting on ST
DefendWaifuWithRaifu@reddit
The defender XL is so choice. Shot a match with a borrowed gun that had the 8 MOA dot and I am half tempted to ditch my SRO for one.
daffydubs@reddit
Dumb question, but can I used this on a spitfire HD Gen II 5x?
Ninjaman427@reddit (OP)
I don't believe so.
daffydubs@reddit
That’s what I thought. Trying to find a piggyback for this that’s better than the viper/venom. I may still buy one and just throw it on a 45* picatinny if all else fails. Thank you!
oakleyman23@reddit
Crazy. I sign in to buy and it goes to $349.99 down from $599.99…
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
See other replies for the reason and work around.
gago_dre@reddit
Does anyone use this as a piggy back dot for their rifle optic?
Tempting but all my pistols have dots already but could use it as a piggy back. Not sure if it would be too large
Old_MI_Runner@reddit
Some recommended Defender ST for such an application so I went with it back during 2024 BF sales. Some thought the slighter smaller size of the ST was better for piggyback or offset mount.
I use a Leupold cantilever mount that I got for $70-some and found the ring that allows either top or offset mount for $50-some. Last I checked Deleonrxgunsandammo had the lowest price for both with shipping. One had to submit a request to get their lowest price.
SuperJonesy408@reddit
Not piggy back because vortex sells a 45 degree mounting plate for the defender XL. I run it on my 18” DMR because I use a MPVO.
Mr_Italiano4@reddit
I truly wish we could get this price for a green
Buttoshi@reddit
Are these comfortable to carry aiwb with?
TotalNegotiation1182@reddit
Yes, no issue on mine.
AwkwardSploosh@reddit
Yes
SuperJonesy408@reddit
I AIWB carry a Sig P211 with a defender XL very comfortably.
redditchuckk@reddit
They dont ship to Cali anymore
Historical-Trouble22@reddit
I don't need it... i don't need it.... I have the non XL version for my canik tp9sfx and I love it. If I do get it, it'll be for my shotgun....
HRslammR@reddit
did the link break?
Particular_Growth_67@reddit
Are you signed in? Someone was saying it didn't work if you were signed in so maybe try in a different browser or not signed in cause still works for me
Necessary_Sound8696@reddit
Yep. Not working for me now.
Lopsided-Library1119@reddit
Damn did y’all crash the website? 😂
DejaJaws@reddit
Was mad at myself for not ordering two a few months ago so I went ahead and grabbed another.
I have nothing to put it on yet. But this dot is on my S&W Carry Comp, the ST on my Walther PDP Pro and CCW on my Canik Prime. Having double astigmatism- these dots are perfect for my eyes. Holosun pistol dots look like fireballs. Eyes are weird.
ChairKillerYi@reddit
I just bought a venom enclosed the other day with a 30% cap one offer, do I return and buy this?
AwkwardSploosh@reddit
If you have use for two, buy both. I like carry enclosed just to keep lint and debris off the emitter, same thing for Tac games. I prefer large open emitters for competition and training.
SetStrict7455@reddit
Great deal. I bought one during the last night sale and now it sits on a lever gun. I am thinking about buying another one.
caterham09@reddit
Is this Bin?
Particular_Growth_67@reddit
Bin?
Ninjaman427@reddit (OP)
Haven’t seen them cheaper, they’ve run this the past 2 Black Fridays and maybe once or twice besides then. BIN for sure
Glum-Astronaut8529@reddit
Thanks for posting, I’ve been waiting for this to pop back up
Former_Power6209@reddit
In for one, thanks OP. Perfectly timed, I just ordered a Lage upper for my M11/9 MG and wasn't sure what optic to use lol
Error_506@reddit
Give a peak at the ammo too, 5.56 for 45 cpr delivered, most 12 ga target loads for 35 cpr delivered. Not BIN good but also not bad given the state of things.
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