[Other Gun] Tortort VZ61 Skorpion Receiver - $249.99 + Free Shipping
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Are there plans to restock at this price, or should I look elsewhere?
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We've ordered more, but unsure when they're coming in. Hopefully in the next month or so.
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Is there any update at this time?
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hello guys can someone help me to shipp the kits parts to Europa?
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FredThePlumber@reddit
I keep seeing the VZ61 kits. I'm really debating it. Someone talk me into or out of it.
CenterfireSystems@reddit (OP)
We're going to have some dropping soon!
FredThePlumber@reddit
I got one of the parts kits, but the lower was sold out. I'll have to get one of the next batches you get in.
FadingFX@reddit
If you get an upper with the barrel already installed it’s as easy as building an AR
hellowiththepudding@reddit
Installing the barrel is easy as can be. Use the bolt to send it home until the pin lines up.
You may need to polish the lug on the barrel.
Kookaburra2@reddit
I was hesitant to build one as I have no real experience with building but this is just a touch more complicated than an ar. Hardest part is getting the barrel in the proper place and pinned. Everything else is super easy. You do need a Dremel to file down the disconnector
JumpKP@reddit
Fun build. Free stamp. Do it.
FredThePlumber@reddit
Is the Tortort the preferred receiver?
juggarjew@reddit
Yes, because you can easily use a factory VZ61 stock. And now that SBR is $0 stamp.... it just makes way more sense to go with a TorTort receiver.
These are so much fun, and you can bump fire them easily, I had lots of people at the range coming over asking if what I had was a post sample/transferable or FRT.
$0 stamps, TorTort Receivers and cheap steel core non corrosive 80's Czech surplus 7.65 Browning loaded hot makes the VZ-61 a great buy right now. Mine absolutely loves this ammo and never once had an issue with it in over 1000 rounds.
possum-fucker@reddit
Wait, i thought steel core pistol ammo was banned? Where ya finding it?
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
AP pistol ammo is banned. Steel core is usually just used because it's cheaper than last.
Steel core is banned from import as being AP though so it's still strange.
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I thought so too, and it is banned. I honestly think someone got one over on the ATF with this stuff:
https://centerfiresystems.com/sellier-bellot-32-acp-7-65-browning-73gr-fmj/
RTI also had some and claimed it wasnt steel core. But I promise you, it 100% is either steel or iron core, I dont know which but I literally took my snipes and dissected a bullet.... there was a large magnetic core present. It was either mild steel or iron. Both of which would make it illegal for import.
I think it slipped by because its .32 ACP and looks like commercial production so you'd think it was lead core but its straight up not. Someone lied for sure on the ATF import permit.
Check my post here proving it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOneTrueCaliber/comments/1ns9u02/sb_surplus_red_box_steel_core_pictures/
Hisetic@reddit
I wish I would have bought more. I have 1500 rounds but I am not going to shoot it anymore, I just ended up buying a die set for .32 acp, it is annoying to reload but atleast I can get it done for about 15 cpr. Even the S&B surplus isn't a deal anymore as everyone is selling it for .35+ cpr now. I don't know if it is drying up or if RTI is getting greedy + tariffs when they import it for everyone.
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Def drying up , the crate I got from Centerfire seemed to be one of their last and was not sealed, it had been repacked but all the ammo was there as expected.
It was just too good of a deal, I think I got it for like 24.7 cents a round and there was no sales tax either. For .32 ACP you just cant beat that and then add the fact that its the original 80's surplus ammo loaded to Euro/mil pressure spec with steel cores and non corrosive? Shesh, I can only get so hard. Plus my Skorpion loves this stuff, never any issue.
possum-fucker@reddit
Oh hell yeah! Thanks for the links and info. I need to snag some too.
I think its a bullshit law, like the chicken tax for trucks i feel like it was just to protect American manufacturers. Cause id love some cheap ass 9mm luger too
EtowahFirearms@reddit
It's fine if you want a semi-auto :/
Mjblount95@reddit
If you want to use the surplus stock and sbr it, yes. They are easy to build, and fun shooting guns. Just watch out for the tolerances on the magazine release and bolt hold open areas. My mag release and bolt hold open both got really stuck and I had to drill and tap the mag release button to be able to pull it out. I sanded these areas in the receiver, and it works perfectly now.
qazaqwert@reddit
I like it because it has the dovetail in the back for the original stock instead of a blank or having tapped holes for brace/stock adapters.
VZ61 USA makes a dovetail to picatinny adapter so you can still use a modern brace or stock if you want but if you go the SBR route with the wire stock it’ll be a lot closer to the OG with the tortort
Hisetic@reddit
It is a fun build and a fun gun but the ammo is starting to getting pricey since the Czech surplus isn't cheap anymore.
sadoproject@reddit
It is a very fun build, a very fun gun, and I sorely regret trading mine off.
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ArmFun4566@reddit
How do these compare to the Czechpoint ones?
Orcinus-Orcat@reddit
Czechpoint ones need adapter for wire stock, and because of the gap, the wire stock will not fully sit against receiver.
ArmFun4566@reddit
But it still will latch in place in the closed position right?
lehan1212@reddit
Dang it I'm too late
Takemepoqhs@reddit
are y’all completely out of the surp ammo?
TheIncredibleMrE64@reddit
Royal Tiger Imports is the only place I know of that still has the surplus S&B in stock.
Takemepoqhs@reddit
Heck yeah. Aim and allarms has it too but for a higher price.
KeyAcanthocephala881@reddit
In for 1
Prettayyprettaygood@reddit
I got one from them and they did ship to Colorado for what it's worth.
KeyAcanthocephala881@reddit
They canceled my order yesterday wand sent a screen shot with the policy saying no receivers to Colorado
Prettayyprettaygood@reddit
When I ordered mine they had canceled some others prior but still sent mine, email them and remind them that this receiver is still perfectly legal. If your FFL you go with isn't in their system try inputting one that is as well.
BobBBobbington@reddit
Expect it from more vendors, we are going to be as bad or worse than California in a year
LostPrimer@reddit
I bought one of these as a reference for my rewelds and these are CLEAN. Tortort does amazing work as always, I just wish they put the mfg markings on the bottom instead of the billboard on the side.
BestMillimeter18@reddit
Mine was good except the way they milled out the groove at the rear of the receiver that the upper sits it. The material is paper thin at one corner due to the way they milled it.
FadingFX@reddit
My only complaint is mine still had material left over from sand blasting or something in the holes for the plate on the bottom, however that was an easy fix, the stock indexes against the lower correctly which was a huge must have for me as I’m SBRing mine.
TXParkRanger@reddit
I 3d printed a receiver that's working fine but I still get tempted to buy one of these just for durability
spank_the_tank@reddit
In for 1!
Anybody know where to find a parts kit? I can’t find any in stock.
Crossroads46@reddit
Max Arms
neuralpluto884@reddit
For some reason these have exploded in popularity in the last 3-4 months. Gunbroker occasionally has parts kits
spank_the_tank@reddit
I think those 0$ tax stamps have something to do with it
juggarjew@reddit
Absolutely, that along with the availability of the TorTort receivers over the past year.
TheIncredibleMrE64@reddit
Does anyone know if these now have the 0, 10, 20 markings on them for the safety, instead of the S and F? The last batch of Tortorts sold at Atlantic had the correct, numbered safety engravings, so I am suspecting that Centerfire just hasn't updated the listing pictures.
Hisetic@reddit
Mine has S and F but I bought mine before the last sale's batch.
LostPrimer@reddit
Mine in the last batch had numbered markings.
JumpKP@reddit
The last sale from centerfire had the 0, 10, 20 markings
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