ULPT to avoid a DUI
Posted by BeaverPup@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 642 comments
I overheard this conversation at the bar the other day and it was too good not to share. Not sure if itd work or not and im not gonna find out but here goes. Bartender said if you ever crash or run off the road while drunk, if nobody else is involved immediately walk to the nearest bar. When cops show up, any alcohol claim is irrelevant because you can say "yes I drove off the road and I was so shaken up I needed a drink.
Maximum_Concern_9627@reddit
I knew a drunkard lawyer in a small dunk town. The cops hated him and they followed him home from the bar one night. They hit their lights just as he drove into his driveway. He went inside and when they knocked on the door to confront him. He opened the drank a 12 oz glass of scotch in front of them
shankmyflank@reddit
In Canada, apparently the cops can test you up to 2 hours after getting home.
khampang@reddit
Jokes on them, I’m married and have two teen daughters, I’m blowing over the limit any time I’ve been home for two hours!!
ClintEastwont@reddit
The DUI laws in Canada are ridiculous. You can be charged for having unopened alcohol in your car if it’s within arms reach (so the front seat AND the back seat.) Alcohol has to go in the trunk.
You can be charged with ‘care and control’ if you have your keys in your pocket and the cops think you are walking to your car with the intention to drive. Same goes if you sleep in your car, and you had consumed alcohol, even if the car hadn’t moved in days, which sucks if you’re homeless and living in a car.
Odd_Willingness_9234@reddit
Same here in Virginia if you try to just sleep it off, not moving, they'll charge you if you have the keys in your possession. Impound your vehicle too
weggaan_weggaat@reddit
People here in America do get DUIs for trying to sleep it off, even if they're not in a drive thru.
bmanley620@reddit
My friend got one because he was sitting in his car listening to music. Instead of driving home his sister was coming to pick him up. He tried to do the responsible thing and it backfired
InevitableBug7@reddit
Ive had this happen to an acquaintance before, also. I was told by someone else, if you have to do that dont sit in the driver's seat and don't have your keys on your person. This is all bar lore, so idk if it will work or not.
Julie_Brenda@reddit
I spent 11 months in my 4Runner. I installed a solar panel on the roof and never connected. It’s wiring to Toyotas. I had multiple USB power ports, so I was able to listen to music and other things with the keys back in the trunk area.
I know that that’s where they were cause I threw them there . So I got a knock at 4 o’clock in the morning…. By a police officer who thought that his patrol included any private property he wanted to trespass into. And he’s thinking he’s gonna make points by taking me for being in control of a vehicle.
I asked him if his camera was on , and I made sure mine was on when he said yes. And then I said well, let’s see… you wanna tell me how I’m allegedly in control of a vehicle?
Before we were done, the sergeant was sorting him out … they ordered me to move along, off the private property… which is really cute when they’re accusing me of being inebriated. Now I’ve got one particular point I’m past my 20 years sober chip. I know that this story occurred after I was 15 years sober. So this whole, I smell alcohol and you’re not willing to do my field exam…. Is circumstantial.
I told the sergeant I’d be willing to accept a blood draw done by a qualified medical facility, providing they provided transportation in both directions regardless of the results
He asked me what I meant by that and I told him it means when I pass the exam I get returned to my car, not dumped at the hospital . He thinks about it a bit. Decides he’s gonna order me to move my car off the private property.
I told him point-blank you don’t have the authority to do that , this is private property, and I have not been observed driving, so this is not a traffic stop…. You are standing on private property and your cruisers are parked on private property without owners permission.
But I won’t pursue that against you because I don’t have standing (the right to sue on that)
Also, because I know the owners public statements are that their parking lot can be used to politely by the public , as long as we don’t litter urinate or defecate in their parking lot, which I assume would also preclude the deployment of piss discs…. In any event., that permission was granted to the public conditionally, six days a week. The church preserved Sunday and today’s Wednesday.
So you have admitted that you’ve come under private property and disturbed my sleep while I’m peaceably staying here in my spot easily seen because I’m directly under the security lighting
There is nothing suspicious about what I’m doing , but there’s plenty suspicious about what you’re doing by coming onto this property and waking me up in the first place. And my right to privacy has to have some weight here because I have disability law and civil rights, plus 4A rights pertaining to searches.
And let’s make sure your body cameras record this it is my opinion that knocking on my window to determine whether or not I’m awake is a tort action , because I need my sleep and if you truly thought I was deceased, you could observe whether or not I have movement with within any 12 hour period even if all you observed was whether or not I moved the Toyota
rico0195@reddit
Yeah they never wanna listen, like on one hand you need to stay warm so you’ll probably turn your car in while waiting. But they basically expect you to have the car off, keys outside the vehicle on the drivers side while you’re sittin your drunk ass in shotgun
weggaan_weggaat@reddit
Then with all the anti-homeless laws that cities are passing these days, they get you for public sleeping and/or drunk in public.
compman007@reddit
Exactly, and then it becomes the problem that now they figure if they gotta wait in their car and risk a cop rolling up they may as well just take their risk and try to get home quicker and risk less :/
morosco@reddit
A lot of people claim this to their friends and family after they get charged, but every state as their own specific definitions of "driving" in DUI statute, and I don't know any where sleeping in a car is enough.
In my state, you have to be in actual physical control of the vehicle, which is defined in the statute as "in the driver’s position of the motor vehicle with the motor running or with the motor vehicle moving."
Lopsided-Extreme9562@reddit
Only if the keys are in the ignition as far as I’m aware
atatassault47@reddit
Where the fuck else are your keys "supposed" to be?
Julie_Brenda@reddit
I’ve thrown my keys into the backseat, or pass the backseat into the trunk area, but my Toyota had a trunk release that would allow me to activate it and walk around the car to get to them
The point is that if the keys are back there then they’re not in the ignition and you’re not trying to drive . It kills the control argument.
And I’ve used this one so that I don’t have to argue with them about whether or not I’ve even been drinking, which I haven’t
I’ve been sober 20 years , but even after I was sober 12+ years I’ve had officers ask me if I’ve been drinking and get very upset when I talk about hydration, as a separate topic from alcohol
rico0195@reddit
They pretty much expect you to toss your keys out your window, and be in any seat other than the drivers, otherwise they’ll get ya on a dui
atatassault47@reddit
According to person I replied to, they can arrest you walking with your keys in possession.
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
In canada.
atatassault47@reddit
Which is irrelevant to the question I asked.
shankmyflank@reddit
You put them in your gas cap if you’re sleeping it off or sitting in there. My friend got a dui while fully parked.
Pkmn_Gold@reddit
I read a story here on Reddit where a dude buried his keys behind a bush, slept in his car, and still got charged with a DUI 🙃
KaiserKid85@reddit
Jokes okn them, I have t rex arms
ClintEastwont@reddit
I have to say I clicked on your profile just to see if you were for real
AnOblongBox@reddit
You can have unopened alcohol anywhere in your vehicle in Ontario. Just not opened alcohol.
ClintEastwont@reddit
You are probably right about this. I was always told if you had a sixer on the passenger seat next to you, it can be an issue, because it’s in reach of the driver. But I can’t find anything to support that with a quick google search. All the better anyway, I don’t think a person should be charged with an offence because something might happen.
AggravatingSpread837@reddit
The DUI laws in Canada should be emulated by the United States.
DaftPump@reddit
A gf from 30 years ago got a DUI in Quebec. She was drunk but fell asleep in the back seat of her car. Didn't matter. A few years later she ran into him in a bar and he tried to pick her up.
spread_panic@reddit
I'm not sure if they're still as strict as they were a decade ago, but one thing that caught a lot of Americans off guard was how strict Canada was with having DUI charges on your record.
A lot of people got them right before ride sharing apps became common, because the US was rightfully cracking down on the social acceptance of driving buzzed/tipsy.
Canada would turn your ass around at the border if you had one from even 5 years prior on your record. This surprised a lot of people because in the US, a DUI was still viewed as a little oopsie to a lot of people.
DaftPump@reddit
Has this ever been used, enforced?
ClintEastwont@reddit
It’s not super often, like I don’t know anyone this has happened to personally. But it’s well documented, and talked about. My step father was a cop, and he always told me, if you’ve been drinking, don’t go to your car to get your jacket (or whatever) before you catch a cab home from the bar because we get people on that sometimes.
happykgo89@reddit
So you’re saying if I’m at the bar and I’ve parked my car there and realize I’ve forgotten my jacket on my front seat, if I go out to my car, open the door, grab the jacket, and go back inside, I’m getting a DUI? How well does that actually hold up?
ClintEastwont@reddit
It’s a whole other country. I believe ‘care and control’ is a separate charge from DUI, but if they think you had the intent to drive, there’s a charge to be had. It’s encoded in the Criminal Code of Canada is how it holds up.
happykgo89@reddit
I am Canadian lol
ClintEastwont@reddit
Ah. Well now you know. If you’re over the limit, don’t even approach your car.
happykgo89@reddit
I rarely ever drink these days, but that’s good to know. I just feel like in a lot of cases it wouldn’t hold up well in court (obviously that scenario isn’t the only one). You’d have to get a cop in a bad mood to arrest you after watching you grab a jacket out of a vehicle - there’s always a chance you’re not drinking, that’s not your car, lol I dunno. I don’t think it happens very often.
ClintEastwont@reddit
Agreed. A good lawyer could get you off. I just read a whole bit about a guy who refused to ID himself for being pulled over. Tried to walk away inside his house. Cops wrestled him and it ended in him being tasered. He got charged with like 5 things, resisting arrest, etc. The judge threw it out because the original reason for pulling him over was he failed to signal. There was no other cars around and the signal had no bearing on anything.
So cops can pull their bullshit but it may not amount to a damn thing.
DaftPump@reddit
I don't drink much so I am not coming from a defensive pov. Scenario.
Suppose the police show up at my door and I would blow over .08 if tested. But I don't want to answer the door and I ignore them. I can't see them breaking down the door over it, idk.
simplebutstrange@reddit
That wouldn’t work here. The cops have the right to breathalyze you for up to 2 hours after driving. Then they do math to see how drunk you were while driving
apokrif1@reddit
To do the math, they need to know how much you drank after driving.
s3v3ralattemptsmade@reddit
That’s how I didn’t get out of my DUI in 2009. I was at a .384 and had only been home for 20 minutes.
simplebutstrange@reddit
DrTripesandTumours@reddit
How do you open a glass!?
duebxiweowpfbi@reddit
He opened the door.
Maximum_Concern_9627@reddit
He poured a bottle of scotch into a water cup… 12 ounces
saltling@reddit
Waste of scotch tbh
Godzirrraaa@reddit
I bet the puke after felt like victory.
FeableZerg@reddit
Some places in the world can charge you if you start drinking for X hours after a crash.
Ok-Priority-2105@reddit
This will not work and you will get a much worse set of charges than your base DUI
Jolly-Response-9452@reddit
don't drink & drive
tewblantsnew@reddit
A buddy of mine told me that if you are def DUI and talking to police, do not do a breathalyzer make them do a a blood test. They need a warrant for that and by then you will have hopefully sobered up enough. Not sure if this will work but just what a buddy told me.
cosmo-8806@reddit
I heard of someone having a factory sealed bottle of liquor in his car and when he drunk crashed his car, waited for the popo to show up and as soon as the cop saw him, he took the bottle, unsealed and opened it and drank a big gulp in front of the cop's body cam. He escaped the DUI cause the cop couldn't prove the gui was not drunk before the crash because of it. I thought it was a clever idea...
k1jblanco@reddit
I have several duis and I watch the faithful sheriff
Cute-Class3624@reddit
I was with a couple friends when the driver tipped the truck into the ditch. Upon crawling out good Samaritans had already called for help. My buddy immediately cracked a beer plopped in a lawn chair from the back while we waited stating we knew it would be awhile and obviously we won't be driving anymore today the trucks gonna need a tow. It actually worked I was so blown away at the cleverness if it
ObjectiveTea@reddit
Criminal defense attorney here....it works if they can't prove that you were driving while under the influence but it's still a hit and run.
ObjectiveTea@reddit
If they can't prove you were driving under the influence, it's not a DUI. But it's still a hit and run.
drone-on-and-on@reddit
I saw a girl do this trick. She pulled into a strip mall that had two bars. One at either end. She struck the karaoke djs car at one end of the parking lot. Then parked. Got in her wheelchair, rolled into the other bar and started drinking. That’s where she was when the cops came. Lots of people witnessed. She dodged the dui but got a ton of other tickets (leaving the scene of an accident, etc) cause the cop was not amused.
brainhack3r@reddit
I get that the cop was not amused, leaving the scene of an accident is less severe than a DUI.
I just researched it, and yes, that is correct. In many states, a DUI can be a felony where leaving the scene of the crime is often just a misdemeanor.
CallmeMefford@reddit
Fun fact: your first DWI isn’t a felony in Wisconsin. It’s a civil forfeiture, and while there are fines ($300) and repercussions (alcolhol assessment & lose your license for a few months), theres not even any jail time unless certain factors are present at the time.
x1009@reddit
I'm not aware of anywhere in the US in which your first DWI is a felony unless you have prior convictions for DWI
mssleepyhead73@reddit
Here in IL, a first DUI is a misdemeanor unless somebody was severely hurt/died, you were driving without a license/insurance, or you were driving with a child in the car.
ray_ruex@reddit
Most states have a 3 time loser, where the 3rd DUI is a felony
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
Unless you have a good lawyer.
ray_ruex@reddit
If you had a good lawyer you wouldn't have gotten the first two
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
True.
I am not a drinker, so don't think about it enough...but you're absolutely right.
I have known folks to get 1/2 & not hire an attorney until the 2nd/3rd(when it wohld matter) 🤷♀️
ray_ruex@reddit
IDK about where you're from but I knew a guy in Texas that thought since DWI is a misdemeanor for the first 2 he didn't get one. In Texas a lawyer is not required for a misdemeanor. But in the case of DWIs the system is designed to cost you money. The judge throw the book at him and sentenced him to the maximum he served 5 years in the state penitentiary with no parole. Sounds crazy I know but it did happen
Love_my_chihuahua@reddit
You have to get to your fourth in a ten year period for it to qualify as a felony in Ohio (unless you’ve already had a felony DUI, in which case, every DUI after that is also a felony).
Grumac@reddit
Same in Utah but it's 3 DUIs in 10 years.
Raveofthe90s@reddit
My old roommate got 6 in utah in 10 years. 3 4 5 6 were all felonies. He had 3 at the same time. They punished him the same as if he had just 1. Didn't even do prison time. Guess what he's back in jail again for number 7.
Edit. And 3 of them were car accidents. 3 totaled cars, 2 where he send the other driver to the hospital.
x1009@reddit
I'm surprised Utah is that lax when it comes to DWI's.
Flaky_Yam5313@reddit
Utah is the easiest state to get a DUI in. The threshold for drunk driving is 0.05 instead of 0.08 everywhere else.
DixonHerbox@reddit
LDS missionary status will get you out of a lot of trouble
Grumac@reddit
The felonies DUIs only have a mandatory jail time of 60 days in jail. Anything more than that and it's the judge's discretion.
simpson227@reddit
Close. 3rd in 10 is felony in Ohio. Source coworker with bad habits.
Love_my_chihuahua@reddit
Per section 4511.19 of the Ohio Revised Code, you are correct. A 3rd DUI can be considered a felony. It’s extremely rare unless the person is being charged with another felony as well. As a paralegal for a defense attorney, I’ve never seen it happen for a 3rd DUI alone but, again, you’re not wrong.
robbixcx@reddit
Literally was about to comment the Ohio law, it’s insane how normalized and tolerated it is.
slump_lord@reddit
It is in PA if they don't give you ARD
Nissehamp@reddit
How could it be your first, if you have a prior conviction for it?
cick-nobb@reddit
Fun fact. Thats not unique
CallmeMefford@reddit
I was amazed after doing more research. The first one isn’t a felony anywhere in the US. Only a misdemeanor or a “civil forfeiture”. That surprised me.
YimmyGhey@reddit
Yeah it's basically a traffic ticket you spend a few hours sobering up in the drunk tank for. DMV still reports it on your driver's record for 55 years, I believe.
I don't have any but I know some shockingly normal people with 2-3 (I'm sure you do fo, we all do here). Granted, the more normal ones are usually those who wrapped up their salad days, especially before the penalties were tightened up like 15 years ago.
On the other end of the spectrum, I once worked with a guy who had to finally go away for a decade after his (idr, but:) 15/16th(!!)
False-Challenge5429@reddit
Did you mean to type 55 years? That seems like a strange interval of time
Love_my_chihuahua@reddit
Definitely agree with the shockingly normal people thing. I was a paralegal for a defense attorney that handled a lot of DUIs (more or less because they’re so quick and easy from an attorney’s standpoint) and was very surprised when my friend from high schools mom called. Super strait laced, 62 and never even had a speeding ticket but got a DUI.
googier526@reddit
My boyfriend has 2 - both occurred before we met, he was 2 years sober when we started seeing each other - if he hadn't told me, well the background check I ran on him would have (we met online, can't be too safe) but just meeting him, you'd have no idea
CptnHnryAvry@reddit
I think a lot of people underestimate how easy it is to get a dui. You go over faster and go under slower than you think- I'd bet the vast majority of people who regularly drink have driven over the limit before.
azdcaz@reddit
Oddly Wisconsin doesn’t seem to report DUI’s to other states, one of only 2 I believe. I got one in college after being juuuust over the limit. When I tried to apply for global entry like a decade later and living in another state I got denied because I said I had a DUI on my record, but the government couldn’t find it so they said they couldn’t approve it unless I got some proof from the city I got it in. I was too lazy to do that so I went for a few years without it, then reapplied and was approved.
PuzzleheadedHouse872@reddit
First three in Wisconsin are only misdemeanors. The fourth is the felony.
SquishTheProgrammer@reddit
I got one in Georgia back in 2016. It isn’t a felony here (I think it’s 3 in 5 years or something?). I had drank earlier in the day but had not had anything in three to four hours. Crucially I didn’t really eat much that day which is why I think I blew over the limit. I didn’t feel drunk (I wouldn’t intentionally drive drunk) and didn’t look drunk (my friends won’t let anyone drive drunk we literally have taken peoples keys before).
It’s a lot easier to get a DUI than people think. They’ve been running these ads over the last year saying buzzed driving is drunk driving and I think it’s a great idea. Now I don’t drive if I’ve had anything more than a beer. The consequences of the DUI really weren’t nearly as bad as people make them out to be (spend 24h in county jail, 20 hours community service, DUI class, and ~$3000 all together) but I still don’t recommend.
Jail food is ass but I swear to god they had the best water I’ve ever drank in my entire life. I actually took a styrofoam cup full of it home with me when I was released. 😂
CallmeMefford@reddit
After doing research, it turns out that if it’s your first DUI, it’s not a felony ANYWHERE in America. It’s just a misdemeanor or a “civil forfeiture”. How crazy is that?
bkn95@reddit
NJ is the only state that a dui is not a criminal offense ( i think)
CallmeMefford@reddit
You’re not gonna believe this: the first one is a misdemeanor or a civil matter in ALL 50 states. That blew me away after doing further research. You’ve gotta get a second DUI before the felony kicks in. That’s fuckin’ wild. I thought it was just the Tavern League in Wisconsin that was lobbying it down to a misdemeanor, but no. Crazy, eh?
yukichigai@reddit
Yep, that used to be the case in Nevada. That loophole has been closed and it's now a criminal misdemeanor at a minimum, which means 6 points on your license (more than a DUI) and prison time. If someone died it's a felony for each person who died.
People still try to pull that trick though.
brainhack3r@reddit
Yeah, I think a DUI is one of the things that is easy to judge someone over.
By all means, drink. Just don't drive afterwards.
yukichigai@reddit
DUI isn't that far off from "torturing small animals for fun" in terms of revealing what kind of person someone is.
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
I am in the disagree camp.
I will preface this with the fact that I do not drink, ever.
However some states DUI limit is incredibly low-lower than it probably should be, basically creating a zero tolerance policy....which may not always be appropriate. Having a drink or 2 & driving is likely fine for most people with average body composition-yet may be against the law depending on how your body processes alcohol(&you wouldnt know unless youve been through this before). 10 people could have 2 drinks. All feel the same. 9 legal, 1 illegal.
So I do take issue with some of the barely illegal DUIs. Some may be unfair.
Torturing animals requires a special type of psychopath, so for me, after decades of rescue, that is in a camp of evil all its own.
yukichigai@reddit
In 49 out of 50 states the BAC limit is 0.08. Utah is the only exception with a limit of 0.05, which... yeah, is too low. But it's Utah, they would outlaw Alcohol entirely if they could.
Outside of that though the only lower limits are if you're a Commercial Truck Driver (reasonable) or if you're underage and shouldn't be drinking in the first place (legally anyway, ethically is a different conversation).
The biggest problem are the states where either BAC from breath tests are considered infallible (they aren't) or cops can just up and charge you with DUI even if you blew under because in their "expert" opinion you were drunk.
None of that is what I'm talking about though. I'm not up in arms about people who have a drink or two with dinner and then drive home. It's the people who go to the bar, get trashed, wait some trivial amount of time and then drive home at top speed because if they go faster it's less likely a cop will spot them swerving all over the road and pop them for DUI. That is a real thing and depressingly way more common than you might like to think.
raspberrih@reddit
I think DUIs are insanely bad because you're literally trying to kill innocent people on the road
But you are using the wrong comparison because DUIs are stupid and thoughtless with severe consequences, whereas torturing animals is very evil but has basically no consequences
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
The animals would disagree
yukichigai@reddit
Sir this is UnethicalLifeProTips, not RuinMyEveningWithFacts
raspberrih@reddit
Huh? What's the relevance? You're not really making any point
ponyboy3@reddit
The sarcasm went over your head. They’re telling you that you make valid points.
raspberrih@reddit
It really did lmao
ponyboy3@reddit
It happens to the best of us )
pellakins33@reddit
Yeah, people with addictions and psychopaths are totally the same thing
yukichigai@reddit
When your addiction has a high risk of killing uninvolved people... yeah, it kind of is.
The right to swing your fist ends at the tip of someone else's nose.
pellakins33@reddit
Never said that they had the right to endanger anyone, only that your characterization is wrong. There’s a world of difference between someone being ruled by their addiction and people who are intentionally cruel because they lack the neurological components for guilt and remorse
yukichigai@reddit
They're knowingly taking actions which will harm others. There really isn't.
RidesByPinochet@reddit
Nah man, with all the available alternatives to getting behind the wheel, drunk driving is one of the most selfish crimes. "Fuck all y'all, I'm the main character" type thinking. Zero regard for anybody or anything.
BirdFragrant6018@reddit
What a stupid take. You never drove home high or tipsy after a night out with friends? Literally pretty much everybody does it. There’s no intent to kill anyone in an accident. Torturing animals is an intent to harm.
NahNahNonner@reddit
If you can’t uber or leave your car you just don’t drink more than one drink. There are other choices
RefrigeratorKey8156@reddit
Let's not forget that alcohol is a legal drug that impairs your decision making. Judging someone on the decisions they make when under the influence isn't really fair. "Drink responsibly" is an oxymoron
dombro99@reddit
now this is just an awful take, get fucked mate
trying to play off potentially slaughtering innocent lives on and off the road because it’s too hard to what, not drink or get high?
this is the dumbest take in existence and is honestly worse than toruring animals, cause atleast some who does that can get the help they need and are probably fucked up as it is
you’re just selfish and think it’s okay to take other people’s lives into your hands whenever you feel like it
ponyboy3@reddit
Looking for the I drive better drunk/high comment
metamorphomo@reddit
My friend, as someone who has been charged with a DUI, equating that incredibly stupid mistake I was severely punished for with torturing animals shows me you have a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature.
Plus_Attitude8610@reddit
I agree but did you ever stop and wonder if drinking and driving is illegal why are there parking spaces at bars? 🥴
brainhack3r@reddit
Because you can sober up and then drive. Or you can just drink less than the legal limit.
Plus_Attitude8610@reddit
Here you go dumbasses... , you can still get a DUI (Driving Under the Influence) or OVI (Operating a Vehicle Impaired) even if your blood alcohol content (BAC) is below the "per se" limit of 0.08%. While 0.08% is the threshold for an automatic presumption of guilt, law enforcement can still arrest and charge you if they have evidence that you are "noticeably impaired".
Reasonable-Draw1221@reddit
State troopers have been arresting drivers in Tennessee for DWI with BAC of 0.00 %. Just another thing to be proud of living here. (Goes to have a good cry.)
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
Or have a DD with you. Or leave your car there and taxi/rideshare home.
RefrigeratorKey8156@reddit
Hahaha same or they say drink responsibly and it's a drug that impairs your decision making.
bluegreenindigo@reddit
You still have time to delete this
SignatureCreepy503@reddit
well, that’s taking the fun of it
nysecret@reddit
i feel like the felony should be for the person who caused the people to die. giving a felony to dead people just feels like adding insult to injury.
theasphalt@reddit
If you’re that much of a drunk that you have to have this planned, just keep an unopened bottle of booze in the car. If you crash just stay on scene, throw your keys as far as you can throw them so you can’t potentially drive, then drink up. No leaving the scene, no dui, and people seeing you drinking.
purdinpopo@reddit
In my state leaving the scene of an accident is a felony. So you would trade up from a misdemeanor to a felony.
247world@reddit
It used to be you didn't get dui's, the cops would take your keys, then come back in a couple of hours after they thought you might have slept it off
MADD changed all that in just a few years.
Hennes4800@reddit
In the US at least. Drunk driving in Germany for example may be much less severe than leaving the scene of an accident.
LucyDominique2@reddit
Leaving the scene in MO is a felony
Tlr321@reddit
My sister’s car got hit a few years ago while headed home from the store. She got into a confrontation with the lady & could tell she was drunk. Next thing she knew, lady was back in her car & drove off. There were a few witnesses & even another person said that she looked drunk & smelled like alcohol. But she made it home, so the cops could only charge her with Hit & Run.
The cops basically said “yeah, she was more than likely drunk when she hit you. But we can’t prove it & she was drinking at home when we showed up, so we can’t charge her with it.”
Shurubles@reddit
Not only that, but there are countries (such as Canada) where you cannot even enter if you have a DUI. It has waaaay bigger implications than leaving the scene.
brainhack3r@reddit
Man, I didn't even know that. It's crazy how much these things impact your life.
berniemax@reddit
Something similar to that 😅 whenever there was no parking i checked once what was a cheaper ticket. Parking on red $80, parking where street sweeper passes $72, or parking next to the fire hydrant $80. Usually only seen people get tickets on sweeper days.
Also I normally park blocking my driveway but not the sidewalk and online says I should be fine.
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
Leaving a note on the other car with your info in a situation like this can go a long way too, cop might not hit you with the leaving the scene.
throwawayursafety@reddit
Why is no one mentioning the wheelchair
SuspiciousStress1@reddit
No different than if the color of her shoes were mentioned...it doesn't matter!
a-beeb@reddit
Honestly? It's irrelevant.
People with wheelchairs most often have some use of their legs, but even if they didn't, it's possible to get a car fitted with hand controls so you can still drive. People with wheelchairs also have the house and drink alcohol. The wheelchair is really just not a relevant factor here.
discipleofchrist69@reddit
why would they? some people use wheelchairs, it's not a noteworthy part of the story
SaneIsOverrated@reddit
What do you say? Girl used a wheelchair. Disabled people can't be alcoholics?
ChestNok@reddit
Leaving the scene yourself whilst the vehicle the instrumentality of the offense is at the scene.. not necessarily going to be charged?
Ashjaeger_MAIN@reddit
In Germany driving drunk is only an administrative offense up until a certain threshold, while fleeing the scene of an accident is always a criminal charge.
Also im not sure whether they do this i the US but if they know how many drinks you had after the accident and what your BAC was after the accident, they can absolutely calculate what it would've been at the time of the accident.
False-Challenge5429@reddit
lol what?? No. You could literally take 10 shots in 2 minutes after crashing the vehicle. There’s no way to calculate what bac was. You’re dead wrong here lol
BeaverPup@reddit (OP)
Yeah thats a way better procedure because here its better to hit and run than it is to take the DUI. Especially if you only hit a parked car or light pole or sum and didnt hit a person.
bubbleteabob@reddit
A guy I used to work with did a similar thing. He was drunk, got into a car accident, rolled out of the car and just ran off into the night. He slept it off in a hedge somewhere and the next morning he went to the police station, handed himself in, and said he didn’t remember anything from the night before and he’d woken up in a hedge. He didn’t SAY he’d been mugged and his car stolen, but he didn’t NOT say it either.
He got away with it, too. That time.
frankydie69@reddit
“Got in wheelchair” Excuse me?
drone-on-and-on@reddit
She was in a wheelchair from a childhood car accident which paralyzed her from the waist down.
247world@reddit
Depending on circumstances, a good attorney could argue that she had not left the scene of the accident since she was still on the property where it occurred, she just didn't wait outside.
I think fleeing the scene means that you have left and you're trying not to be found, not that you're at a business in the same parking lot.
jimbojones2345@reddit
The trick is get someone to bring you a drink so you're not leaving, or have a closed container of alcohol in your car your get out of the car and open and consume. Or your know don't drink and drive
Moron-Whisperer@reddit
She should have left a note.
EhMapleMoose@reddit
One thing I heard from a friend was that their coworker bragged about being arrested for drunk driving. He refused to answer any questions or submit to any test beyond identifying himself. They arrested him, he asked for a lawyer. It was 2am, it took a half hour to get his lawyer on the phone and another three until his lawyer got there (it was his daddy’s lawyer). He downed water and by the time the lawyer got there he was under the legal limit.
This was over a decade ago. And again, I heard it from a friend who heard his nepo baby coworker brag about it. So take it with a truckload of salt.
overturned_mushroom@reddit
At least in my state that would be a gamble, you can refuse to answer questions and maybe the roadside walk in a line type tests, but refusal to submit blood or breath carries an automatic 1 year suspension compared to just 4 months if you blow and fail. You sign a thing when you get your license agreeing to submit one of those two things if you ever get pulled over and asked. Your best chance then is a DMV hearing where the lawyer proves there was no probable cause for the stop, because the DMV suspension is automatic if you don't fight it and the criminal proceeding is separate.
ray_ruex@reddit
This does unless you're really plastered
ray_ruex@reddit
In Texas leaving the scene of an injury accident is a felony failure to stop and render aid
bars2021@reddit
The one i heard was to always have a clean liquer bottle available in the trunk and crack it open if you hit another car or once the cop arrives then drink.
emilybg78@reddit
It’s Florida, Girl
Best_Market4204@reddit
Just trade information & handle it in the morning.
No cops needed. You can go in person next day if you need a report
Best_Market4204@reddit
I got you
Step 1 go to the bar
Step 2 drink all you want
Step 3 download Uber
Step 4 tell manager you be back tomorrow for your car
ray_ruex@reddit
Around here most parking lot have a towing service that will impound vehicles that are left in the parking lot. If you do this make sure they won't tow your car. I know a guy who drank too many and had the bar tender order a cab, bar tender said it'd be ok but for some reason he still got towed it cost him a lot of money. Still cheaper than a DUI.
Brickster000@reddit
Step 1 go to the bar via an Uber.
https://i.imgur.com/Z8WMYRY.jpeg
Oddballfew@reddit
I got you....
No_Nick89@reddit
I got even better solution, take public transportation or walk to the bar but that requires you not to live un murica
Oddballfew@reddit
False
Roboomer@reddit
That's what I've always done. Can't drive home drunk if your car's home
swallowsnest87@reddit
Been drinking at bars for 10 years at this point, and I’ve never heard of a bar towing cars for being left overnight. If you leave the car there 24 hours maybe, but not just until the next morning.
weggaan_weggaat@reddit
It probably wouldn't be the bar calling the tow truck, but many are in places with various laws/policies such as parking being for customers only, no parking longer than X hours, no overnight parking, etc. so once the person leaves the property or whatever, the tow truck will show up.
FauxmingAtTheMouth@reddit
It only happened to me once, but I got towed late at night while having a pint waiting for a to go order, it took about ten minutes for my car to be towed and then $250 to get it out of the yard
ray_ruex@reddit
It's not the bar actually. It's a towing company contracted to tow unwanted cars from the parking lots. Around here almost every parking lot have signs up XYZ towing will tow unauthorized vehicles. Sometimes the business does it sometimes It's the property owner. It's intended to clear the parking lot at night so they can clean it, either for street sweeper or snow plowing. These tow trucks unscrupulous and hoover a round like buzzards looking to pray on unsuspecting folks to park where they shouldn't. Many skirt the law but it's legal. There is legit reasoning for this service and it does get abused.
Interesting story there was a business that had a large volume of customers and didn't have enough parking. People would resort to finding alternative parking there was a business across the road that had lots of extra parking. Over flow customers attempt to park there. The tow trucks swoop in and tow there car sometimes in less than 2 minutes of them leaving the property. The funny part was the business next door after watching this happen dozens of times everyday. Put up a sign warning people and if that wasn't enough he would verbally warn them. The towing company got pissed and tried to sue him from trying to stop people from being swooped up in their trap, lol. And, it's all legal.
frosty95@reddit
Should literally be illegal. Local college town near me will tow ANY vehicle left on its main street overnight.... The main street covered in bars. In a college town. They have a serious DUI problem. Can't imagine why.
BeaverPup@reddit (OP)
Doesn't work if you live so far in the middle of bum fuck that there is no Uber, is no train, and are no busses or taxis.
Phidelt257@reddit
They will tie your car tho
makingburritos@reddit
I was in the service industry for ten years and have never seen or even heard of this happening. No bartender wants to see you drink and drive.
cjw7x@reddit
Towing definitely happens. My restaurant will give a copy of the receipt to put in the window and the tow company for the privately owned shopping center won't tow.
makingburritos@reddit
I didn’t say it didn’t happen, I’ve just never seen it in my experience 🤷♀️ I imagine if it does happen it probably isn’t your bartender calling lol
cjw7x@reddit
Here it's the predatory row companies sitting in the lot waiting to hook up the leftover cars.
SkoilerDaaaaan@reddit
Bartenders no, bar owners on the other hand...
happykgo89@reddit
Most bar owners won’t do this either, because it’s not in their best interest to tow the vehicles of paying customers who clearly spent enough money in their establishment to make the decision not to drive home.
Obviously if it’s excessive it might be a different story, but I think in most cases, they would prefer you don’t drive drunk from their bar (I believe in some places businesses that are found to have served customers who then get into an accident or something while drunk can be potentially liable as well). Towing cars = losing business.
sunflower280105@reddit
$200 to get your car out of the impound lot sure beats a $10,000+ DUI.
Phidelt257@reddit
DUIs won't cost $10k for your first offense. It's more like 1k. For a DUI to cost 10k were talking about your 5th
sunflower280105@reddit
Would you like to speak to my father whose first DUI cost $12,000?
Phidelt257@reddit
Did he not go thru the first offender program? Or was his BAC that high? Usually that's jail time like 30 days. Your father extremely overpaid
sunflower280105@reddit
Lawyers. It was a doozy. Which can happen to anyone.
TheDonger_@reddit
Alright, WHICH clown turned my CAR into a fucking GIRAFFE
Fuzzy_Syrup_6898@reddit
If they turned it into a giraffe, maybe they were really a WITCH clown 😅
CptnHnryAvry@reddit
Teeheehee! Gotcha!
NotAsuspiciousNamee@reddit
Could just Uber to the bar
CaptainPunisher@reddit
That's not unethical.
insolent_kiwi@reddit
Then steal the managers car.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
That's more en pointe.
Pryml710@reddit
And leave a piss disk on the dash before you ditch it
Fuzzy_Syrup_6898@reddit
CaptainPunisher@reddit
Not unethical enough. Better make it a diarrhea disc.
Pryml710@reddit
Piss disks are a staple of this community, my good sir/madam. But I do like the suggestion.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
At this point, they're almost expected and passe. If I want meat and potatoes I'll stick my head up my butcher's ass.
Best_Market4204@reddit
Yah it is... dodging a dui.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
That's not unethical. If you're not driving, there's no DUI to forge and no unethical behavior.
DeReversaMamiii@reddit
Step 4.5: Punch bartender in the face
There, unethical
Veeman9@reddit
This seems like a comment not really in line with the nature of the sub or the post…
Scottyb911@reddit
I was on a jury where a guy that had done the drinking and driving with a trail of damage caused. When cops showed up he claimed to have hit the bottle when he got home. No evidence was shown that he had drank beforehand; it was his recorded statement at the station that was damning.
The police didn’t have anything to prove he had drank beforehand. Dude sank his own ship. So if you’re going to do this, keep your mouth shut.
JMT1996@reddit
Horrible advice but a coworker of mine hit a telephone pole while drunk driving and when the cop showed up she claimed she was depressed and attempting to take her own life. 72 hour hospital hold was better than a DUI, I guess?
JMT1996@reddit
Horrible advice but a coworker of mine hit a telephone while drunk driving and when the cop showed up she claimed she was depressed and attempting to take her own life. 72 hour hospital hold was better than a DUI, I guess?
Granadafan@reddit
Don’t fucking drive drunk. Period
CaptainPunisher@reddit
You're on the wing subreddit for that.
Nheea@reddit
At this point, why not give murder advice. This is not jist unethical, it's illegal.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
OK. If you want the Best chance to get away with murder, literally, SHUT THE FUCK UP! People get into trouble because they tell someone and then it gets out.
Nheea@reddit
FBI? Hey, this dude right here.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
Pshhh... I actually got that advice from a sheriff's deputy. You think the FBI doesn't know?
Granadafan@reddit
I don’t care about the “proper” threads. Drunk driving is bullshit and no one should be giving tips to excuse this terrible action
nestoryirankunda@reddit
Thank you noble redditor for saving this sub
unreelectable@reddit
lmao
enNova@reddit
what sub is this
nabiku@reddit
K
AaltoSax@reddit
Fuck that, you can be as unethical as you want without being a liable to the lives of everybody around you
CaptainPunisher@reddit
But, you could be even MORE unethical!
mildorf@reddit
I like to drink and drive while blind firing a revolver out my window and blowing vape smoke in my nephews breathing tube.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
Is it back up?! I can see it.
mildorf@reddit
Yeah I won my appeal
CaptainPunisher@reddit
Hell yeah! Congrats!
CaptainPunisher@reddit
That's fucking stupid. Actual tobacco or go home!
mildorf@reddit
Few_Ad_7613@reddit
They got on you quick! Take it as a badge of honor.
CaptainPunisher@reddit
Yeah I saw your comment. The removal is dumb.
idonotknowwhototrust@reddit
But that's really what ethics is, right? Society? Morals is different.
Comprehensive_Cut179@reddit
Im usually against most rules but yes. F driving drunk.
nestoryirankunda@reddit
Thank you noble redditor for saving this sub
RealLokiLaufeyson@reddit
Whoosh
Valuable_Pomelo9772@reddit
But I'm good at it, not like all these other drunk idiots. I actually drive better when I drink.
Atworkwasalreadytake@reddit
You tell them, that should do the trick.
lilbithippie@reddit
Look at this nerd on ULPT. Go on law. Com or something
Iamherecumtome@reddit
This
Selmanella@reddit
A shady friend of mine got out of THREE DUI’s by faking a seizure when he was pulled over. THREE!
nutcracker_78@reddit
A dodgy acquaintance of mine can cry on cue. She'd been out for a work drinks thing, and had a couple too many, got pulled over for speeding. She immediately burst into hysterical sobs so that by the time the cop walked up to her car, she had snot and tears flying. Told him she'd started a new job, went to the drinks thing, got propositioned by her supervisor so she panicked and left the bar to get home which is why she may have been slightly over the speed limit. Because of her acting skills, the cops never breathalysed her, and felt bad for her after supposedly getting harassed, so they just gave her a caution for speeding and left her.
She thought it was absolutely hilarious, and said she was so glad she could get away with anything by turning on the waterworks, and that she'd keep doing it whenever she could get away with it.
dsm5lovechild@reddit
Is she a white woman? I feel like this trick probably wouldn’t work for most POC.
ultrahateful@reddit
As it shouldn’t.
simpson227@reddit
There is a you tube video I watched that has multiple privileged women getting busted. Sooo satisfying. I am a white man btw.
Trick_Horse_13@reddit
The irony of this comment is overwhelming.
bigboyboozerrr@reddit
I like watching women like this try to do this and get busted and then just embarrass themselves. As a woman, this is what gives us that stereotype and it’s really shitty. Whiny rich bottle blonde (yes they’re rich that’s costs $500+ a month just to bleach the shit.) my daddy will save me if my tears don’t work!1! I’ve never been in trouble! My friend is right here! I am going through a break up!1!1! I’m wearing Gucci!1!1
Like stfu and get in the cuffs. Satisfying bodycams when they’re like “we can smell the liquor.”
rockhounded5221@reddit
I no longer participate in shady activities, but can confirm this works. You have to trust fall on the ground convincingly.
OmNomSandvich@reddit
doesn't the state pull your license if you have unmanaged seizure disorders?
Selmanella@reddit
I’m in Canada. And shady friend didn’t care. He’d drive without a license if he needed.
BeaverPup@reddit (OP)
Haha yeah thats how my uncle is. Never had a license in his life and he doesnt care to get one, he drives, and when he got a dui it wasn't like he had a license to suspend so he just got off scot free.
CandidPhilosopher877@reddit
Can confirm, yes you do at least in Ca. To get your license back you need a doctor's note and 60 days without a seizure.
The shitty part is insurance companies treat this like a DUI so prices skyrocket for a few years.
auntvic11@reddit
No, you are supposed to surrender it at the DMV. At least in Maine. But I’d think if you get into an accident they’d pull it
Falafel_Fondler@reddit
A shady friend of mine wrecked his car into a ditch off of the highway and he avoided the DUI by going home and reporting his car stolen. The cops and the insurance knew he was lying but they had no proof lol.
its_edamame@reddit
Aren't they supposed to take your license away if you have seizures? I know they do in California
tamponinja@reddit
Elaborate
Warm-Gift-7741@reddit
No do not try this
cpo109@reddit
Taking drinks AFTER the wreck would nullify any blood alcohol tests. Im just sayin'
myassishaunted@reddit
Nah, this is easier
RikkiLostMyNumber@reddit
This happens, and it happened to me, except I was the bartender. A woman came in, seemed ok (place was loud), orders a beer and a shot of Jaeger, then another shot, then the cops show up. They took her outside and then one cop came in to talk to me and I related as per above, emphasizing that I had no idea if she was in trouble or anything.
Turns out she drunkenly hit a telephone pole about a block away and did a number on her car, then ran right into my place. I was told later that they dropped the DUI charge but got her on some other stuff.
linderlady@reddit
Any consequences for serving her? We always hear about things like this in n alcohol awareness classes. Absolutely no shade, but was the business affected by this at all?
not-bread@reddit
How could there be? There is no evidence that she was drunk
linderlady@reddit
I’m asking about third party liability laws, something that people not in the hospitality industry are probably unaware of. It’s complicated, but I can explain more if you’re interested.
makingburritos@reddit
The law wouldn’t apply because there was no evidence she was drunk when she committed the crime. There was no evidence the bartender knew she was fleeing the scene of a crime. Those laws are in place so that if a bartender knowingly overserves someone and they commit an alcohol-related crime, they could be held liable (incredibly rare). This would not apply in this scenario, in any capacity.
RikkiLostMyNumber@reddit
I worked in a place that was sued for this in the 90s. A bartender served a visibly intoxicated guy who then got in a car and hit a bridge abutment. DOA. The estate sued, and our insurance company just wrote them a check, not as much as you would think as there were mitigating circumstances plus the dead guy may have been drinking in his car anyway. Very sad.
linderlady@reddit
Exactly what I’m talking about. In a busy, loud bar you may not see the signs, but I guarantee they were there.
WearyCarrot@reddit
I am interested, enlighten me!
RikkiLostMyNumber@reddit
None at all either to me or the business.
randonumero@reddit
There's a chance the charges got dropped because she had the right lawyer and not because she found some loophole. I'm NAL but I feel like people who get away with this likely don't live in states that have you forfeit your license if you don't take a breathalyzer on scene.
ericisatwork@reddit
They can't breathalyze you on scene if you flee the scene. A "leaving the scene of an accident" charge is substantially less of penalty than a DUI, at least in California. I got a DUI about 9yrs ago and my police officer best friend told me I should have ran home (I was about 5 blocks away when I hit a curb and destroyed my front suspension) and hung out until the cops found me. I would have gotten a few hundred dollar fine and slap on the wrist as opposed to a lawyer, a $3,700 fine, mandatory classes, and raised insurance premiums.
shankthedog@reddit
Just crack a beer or whatever if you have one and get out of the vehicle. Best they can get is open container.
alek_hiddel@reddit
I mean this way overly complicated. Keep a 5th of vodka in your trunk. No need to drive away. Hop out, get it out, and chug that bad boy because you’re so shook up and needed to calm your nerves.
Of course breathalyzers don’t actually smell your breath, they detect alcohol that has been processed by your body and exhaled, which takes time, so you’re still kind of screwed.
Ok-Equivalent8260@reddit
You have to be the shittiest type of person to drive drunk.
AngryCrotchCrickets@reddit
I bought a breathalyzer just for shits and was floored when I realized what .08bac felt like. I thought the feeling at .04 was for sure legally impaired. You gotta be a real asshole to be .08 and still drive. For me it’s not just a few beers.
Respond-Dapper@reddit
Depends on the person. I had one drink, felt fine and when I got breathalyzed 3 hrs and a full meal later I was at a 0.102. Drink was a vodka cran but still, I wouldn’t have expected it to get my BAC that high, esp bc I rly didn’t feel that drunk. I only drink once a month so my tolerance isn’t that high either
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
Having a good breathalyzer is an excellent idea for anyone who drinks alcohol and who also drives.
In my drinking days mine let me know I needed to avoid driving the morning after a night of heavy drinking quite a few times.
Those morning after DUIs are far more common than many people realize.
KingKookus@reddit
I would have a hard time trusting that to be accurate. Even the cops portable one isn’t perfect.
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
First of all, I had a good one, a model actually used by some LEO. It came calibrated from the factory. Not some cheap keychain that can’t tell the difference between alcohol and ketones.
But more importantly I experimented with mine a lot.
I had it for a few years and took over 450 readings on it before eventually quitting drinking altogether.
I used it to test what factors affected how fast the reading went up and down.
I found it to perform with remarkable consistency and predictability.
No matter what my “BAC” peaked at it ALWAYS went down at the exact same consistent rate of 0.015 per hour.
I once even rode a bike 17 miles to see if I could burn it faster than if I let it wear off on its own. Nope! That made no difference!
I’m glad not to be drinking anymore but anyone in my life who I care about gets the same good quality breathalyzer from me as a gift.
Stray1_cat@reddit
Can you tell me what brand you bought? I’d like to gift one to a few friends
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
“BACtrack S80 Breathalyzer”
Stray1_cat@reddit
Thank you!!
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
I gotchoo.
DarkmatterHypernovae@reddit
Straight up thought of him reading this. “Just a little drinky poo.”
Smash_Shop@reddit
Funny thing is, doing a hard workout should actually slow down the recovery. Your liver processes both alcohol and lactic acid. If it's busy processing lactic acid, it can't process alcohol as quick. The opposite is also true. If you go on a hard ride then drink a beer, that alcohol is impairing how quick you'll recover from the hard ride.
Killin-some-thyme@reddit
That’s so interesting
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
I’m now letting my liver recover… that’s why I don’t work out anymore! 😎
Killin-some-thyme@reddit
This is so interesting. And also…SCIENCE! The liver is pretty predictable so it seems. But did you ever try anything silly like sucking on a penny or wearing a trash bag to try to sweat it out or drinking a shit ton of water? I need to hear more of the experiments you did 😂
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
Sure! I tried all the stuff “they” say works but health class says doesn’t. Showers. Coffee. Empty/full stomach.
I think the highest I ever tested myself at was .240 or something close to that.
After a hard night of drinking and “sleeping it off” I’d often blow around 0.09 and have to decide whether to Uber to work and hideout where I would hopefully not run into anyone or call in sick.
It was interesting to start sober and take a shot and watch how the reading spiked immediately because of the alcohol in your mouth and then go down for the next half hour to what your reading “really” was at that point. If you drink a lot fast and then wait that first half hour and then test a bunch you can see the alcohol blood level rise to it’s peak before it starts going down again, so slowly, lol.
I really do think everyone who drinks alcohol should have one.
Thank God I never got a DUI or anything. Thank you Baby Jesus!!!
Killin-some-thyme@reddit
That’s a pretty high BAC. Somebody we know got a DUI about a year or so ago and if I recall he blew around a .30. I wondered at the time what I would feel like with that much alcohol in my system. I’m not even sure I’d have the ability not to totally black out/pass out at that point since I’m not a heavy or habitual drinker. His mug shot was pretty rough… at the time he was drinking a ton. He’s turned things around a lot since then.
Good for you for taking control of your life!
Silent_Loquat_6057@reddit
Ugh I love data. Thank you for sharing
MXXlV@reddit
I think the science behind metabolizing alcohol in your liver is all based on enzymes. Hard alcoholics have an increase in a different enzyme over normal people. Has nothing to do with how much exercise or calories you burn. Most decent breathalyzers are quite accurate, The main difference is how alcohol makes people feel. Some feel drunk at 0.04, others might need 0.16 to 'feel' similar
ThunderCorg@reddit
A park ranger once asked me if I was planning to drive soon, I said no, I’d had a few beers and was chilling.
Offered me a breathalyzer if I was curious, damn it felt like a trap but I thought “well I already said I’m not driving anytime soon and if I decline I don’t know what his next step is.” So I did it and despite feeling buzzed it barely registered anything. So weird.
Responsible_Dentist3@reddit
Same here! I would think "this is 0.8" and then the breathalyzer said 0.5 and I'm like ????? I completely understand why WA is changing the limit to match UT now!
Salt_Medicine2459@reddit
Either of those BACs would be serious alcohol poisoning.
Responsible_Dentist3@reddit
Ahhh oops lol, I think you know what I meant though
pnutbutterandjerky@reddit
One coors is litterally .02. You drink 4 of those and you are now over the legal limit. That’s absolutely nothing
AngryCrotchCrickets@reddit
I am 6’6 220lbs brother
bcocoloco@reddit
.04 is like 2 beers in one hour…
musicgray@reddit
I had a friend who routinely bought a case on the way home drink from 4 to midnight and finish the case before he went to sleep. Big Dave would go to work the next day and buy another case on the way home again.
BIkerAC@reddit
Is Big Dave from Southern California?
AngryCrotchCrickets@reddit
Im a bigger guy. It would be closer to 3 for me. If Im in a situation where Im drinking more than 3-4 beers over the course of a few hours, Im not driving anyway.
Gen_JohnsonJameson@reddit
I tried this also At .08 I had trouble getting my key into the car door lock (this was before the key fobs on your keychain) so it's definitely not something you can say you didn't realize you were drunk.
spencerAF@reddit
For me it was the other way. My ex gf had an intoxilock because of a dui. We had dinner and I had two beers, thought I was completely fine, ended up having to wait 45 minutes before I could blow low enough to start the car.
BrightWubs22@reddit
I'm curious if the one you bought is reliable.
ninefortysix@reddit
I bought one. You have to get it calibrated somewhat regular, I think once a year. You have to pay to mail it in and have the company do it.
kalikid01@reddit
Yes I am, and that’s why I drink…cheers 🍻
Calm-Ad-7928@reddit
Especially with how easy it is to get rides now with Uber and all the different apps. Crazy to me that people still drive drunk
zeaor@reddit
Are you a teenager or something? According to studies, 20% of all drivers drove after having a drink within the last year. That figure is much higher is college towns.
So not sure what rock you live under, but everyone does it, and your sad little "I'm so pure I don't know how people can break the lawwww" post is mostly just awkward.
Calm-Ad-7928@reddit
No I used to drive drunk all the time, 20 years ago, and thankful that I never killed anyone. Uber and lift made it so easy to not be a dumbass that I havent driven after a drink in years
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govadeal@reddit
Some would say unethical.
SavageCaveman13@reddit
It works. I keep a sealed bottle of liquor in my saddle bag when I ride. Crashing sucks, alcohol makes the pain less painful. I can't get in trouble for drinking the pain away.
ChestNok@reddit
People in other countries just flee the scene then claim they had a panic attack or were experiencing shock.
QWERTY-111@reddit
nope. they will ask you where you are coming from then pull videos. dont lie
rico0195@reddit
Well I mean it’s risky but if no one saw ya there’s a chance it works, I’ve seen dumber plans work
Fresh-Astronaut3648@reddit
What if you just park and crack open a beer in your trunk?
Catbitchoverlord@reddit
There’s nothing more lame than drunk driving. Ethics aside, don’t be a fucking loser.
AmputeeBoy6983@reddit
Honesty youre much better off just disappearing for the night. Do not get caught sitting on your front porch, theyre coming to your house that night.
Ignore the door! Don't answer or get spotted.
Next day, walk into police station, say you were scared so you ran, adrenaline wore off and you fell asleep. But youre there to report it now.
You'll get a weak charge, but infinitely better/cheaper to defend than DUI!
They'll know youre full of shit but cant do anything. Youre just there to report it. And learn
"At this time im not answering any questions"
Say it over and over, ask for attorney if youre being held. DONT ANSWER QUESTIONS, but be polite
Tight_Dot_2982@reddit
An acquaintance did this years ago. Drunk driving, clipped off a telephone pole and hit a tree. No injuries. Got a ride home and left the scene before the police came. They tracked him down at home where he was drinking a beer. They cited him for leaving the scene of an accident and property damage. No DUI. I think that’s why you see so many hit and run accidents now. The penalties for hit and run are less than a DUI with injuries.
pichael288@reddit
This actually worked in I think Peru last year, the guy pulled out a bottle of whisky and started chugging it and they actually couldn't charge him. This was always a myth when I was a kid and the people who reported it couldn't find any other cases of it working out.
Chrome1230@reddit
Cant they just ask the bar to pull up the cameras?
charms75@reddit
If you're still alive
DaisyChainsandLaffs@reddit
Remember: a ticket for leaving the scene of an accident is always going to be easier to deal with than a dui. If you wreck, leave the scene until you're sober, then turn yourself in.
YouDontLookSpiritual@reddit
I have a family member who would remove the license plate and then go to the police the next day when he was sober. They couldn't prove that he was drunk. Did it at least 3 times successfully
Smogz_@reddit
Can’t they run the vin?
cjw7x@reddit
Easy to hide that
YouDontLookSpiritual@reddit
The last time he did this was in the 2000s, im sure things have changed.
i-am-foxymoron@reddit
This sounds like a really stupid idea.
BeaverPup@reddit (OP)
I didnt say it was a good idea, and ultimately it was just something I overheard at the bar, but it seemed like enough of an unethical pro tip to share it
PolarSquirrelBear@reddit
It’s not stupid if it works. I had a drunk of a friend with rich-ish parents in highschool that would wreck his cars often. Always kept a bottle of booze in the car that he could start drinking on the side of the road afterwards.
Cops know what’s going on. But can’t really prove if they were drunk before or after.
PuddleOfHamster@reddit
If this is a known criminal gotcha, how come they haven't added another law specifically forbidding doing that?
TheRoyalUmi@reddit
Depends on jurisdiction. In Canada, you can be charged with impaired driving if you are over the legal limit for a period of time after an incident (if you have reason to believe you might be tested—such as a hit and run or if you interact with cops and run away to drink).
Technically this means that a person could drive sober and then have a drink afterwards, and get charged with impaired driving. The justice system decided that the extremely rare odds that someone is caught under this rule is worth cracking down on people using this ULPT.
PolarSquirrelBear@reddit
There is, it’s called open liquor. But it beats a DUI.
There’s simply no way to prove they were drunk before if they’re openly chugging a bottle of liquor when cops arrive. Anything else is speculation whether they know it or not, and that’s the justice system.
PuddleOfHamster@reddit
Yeah, but they could make a law specifically saying "If you have a car accident and drink any alcohol between the time of the accident and being breathalysed, it will be considered a DUI and you will be charged accordingly." Couldn't they? You'd need to finesse the wording, but it'd be on the right track.
The_Troyminator@reddit
It depends. If the police show up quickly and their BAC is high enough, they can prove that they must have been drunk prior to the accident since it couldn’t have risen that quickly.
They also can get eyewitness testimony proving they were impaired before they started drinking.
It definitely makes a conviction more difficult, but not impossible. If
randonumero@reddit
If there's a blood draw or a breathalyzer they can make an estimate on how much you had and when you started. You said rich-ish so I'm guessing as with many cases, your friend's result came from having the right lawyer
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
You’d have to plan to have accidents near bars. I mean, we don’t all live in Wisconsin.
But even if you did try to pull this, they can still take you in for blood testing for other drugs.
atomicspin@reddit
That's why you keep mini's in your car!
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
I live in Wisconsin, this is viable almost anywhere in the state.
Kiltmanenator@reddit
And the places where it isn't are too rural to even really get a DUI.
Also, we get like 5 of em before jail time.
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
1 or 2 actually.
Kiltmanenator@reddit
Sorry, I should have said Prison. It's only a Felony at 4.
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
Mandatory at 3, sometimes at 2.
Kiltmanenator@reddit
Really? This WIDOT doc says it only becomes a Class H Felony on the 4th OWI
https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/safety/education/drunk-drv/owi-penchrt.pdf
Cuneus-Maximus@reddit
I was talking jail time.
Fuzzy_Syrup_6898@reddit
How would one ingest a “non substance”? Do you just try and think about it?
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
Driving while sleepy or angry or distracted.
Thuggish_Coffee@reddit
I live in WI. And I live next to a bar.
Uranus_Hz@reddit
It’s hard not to
Thuggish_Coffee@reddit
Truth. When I moved to St. Louis, I had a WTF moment when the bar was far away from my house (half mile). I'm back now tho, so that's a relief.
spank_the_tank@reddit
This pro tips only works in Wisconsin because no matter where you are there’s always at least 1 bar within eyesight.
OsamaBinWhiskers@reddit
I know someone that successfully pulled this off. They were very stupid yes. But it worked
RockHardSalami@reddit
Literally every comment ITT is a bot just posting old timey memes that never actually worked
jollygreengrowery@reddit
It is. Just call a local tow company as soon as you crash. They will beat any police to the scene if noone else called. Then walk home
yoosernaam@reddit
It is. But also, you’re already fucked. May as well roll the dice and have a chance at a reduced shitstorm
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
The United States is a really stupid country.
DankAshMemes@reddit
I'm aware this is a joke sub, but if you're genuinely serious maybe get help instead. Alcoholism isn't fun and games anymore once you start putting people around you in danger. I was hospitalized because of someone that was under the influence, and my uncle was dead on impact with a drunk driver. He didn't even make it past 17. Do what you want to your own body, just don't involve others.
RichardBeertails@reddit
I once knew someone who's entire argument was that the fire dept/paramedics placed empty booze containers in his vehicle post accident....
Went exactly as you'd have guessed. 😂
Arctic_Africa7305@reddit
Knew a guy who disabled his car at a bar, called a tow truck to tow his vehicle home, rode with the tow truck guy, costs $70. The next morning he fixed whatever he disabled and went to work. He had the peace of mind of knowing his car was home and though it cost twice as much as a taxi, way cheaper than a DUI.
DaftPump@reddit
This trick no longer works where I live. Customers are no longer permitted to ride with the tow driver. Insurance reason maybe idk.
I had friends who used to 'sabotage' their car(pull a sparkplug wire, etc) in order to get home this way years ago.
Arctic_Africa7305@reddit
Yes, you are probably right. Insurance has constricted my bosses business greatly too. This occurred at least fifteen years ago also.
MrsTaco18@reddit
Does a tow truck care if the car is actually broken down?
YimmyGhey@reddit
Most likely not. I've never had to resort to it but I'd have no shame trying it if I were to have no business behind a wheel.
Perhaps a neutral PLT: AAA roadside assistance has a reasonably priced tier with something like 3 local (up to 50-ish miles) a year. The tow truck companies don't give a shit, they're in it for the paycheck. They're generally not going to be a Good Samaritan mechanic; they've got a work order to fulfill and that's basically the extent of their shits being given. Probably wouldn't bat an eye if you said "I ran out of blinker fluid and I think the Johnson rod also broke again"
On_the_hook@reddit
When I worked for AAA I would try to get the car going because we had a "go rate" metric. But if they wanted the tow for whatever reason I didn't care. Load and go. When I worked for a tow company I really didn't care, I was commission based and got 35% of the call.. Give me keys and money and off I go.
Arctic_Africa7305@reddit
I honestly don’t know. But I do know all logical thinking goes out the window with the first sip of an alcohol.
yowen2000@reddit
We need the service in Japan (I think), where they show up to wherever you are on a foldable moped, they put it in your trunk, and they drive you home.
cjw7x@reddit
Depending on where and time of day you may have to wait hours for the tow.
AnOblongBox@reddit
Or you just drive away and get a failure to remain charge instead of a dui. Have heard of a few people doing that here in Canada.
A_Kazur@reddit
Normal post on ULPT: Buy an Uber so you don’t crash into a family of five!
Actual UNETHICAL life pro tip: Start drinking after the crash so it muddies if you were drunk driving.
Also this really does work, but critically it has to happen very soon after the accident, and if you’ve been drinking heavily for the whole day they could probably get you if they seriously wanted to.
I hate drunk drivers, but this is exactly the type of post for this sub tbh
urinesain@reddit
Yep. Happened to a coworker buddy of mine last year. Left the bar and ended up driving his car into a ditch. A fellow patron of the same bar that left shortly after he did happened to see his car in the ditch, and stopped by. My buddy hopped in his car, and they went to another bar.
I can't remember if he said the cops called the bar he had left, or the bar he then went to... or both. But these are small-town local bars... none of the bartenders ratted him out.
In the morning he had a voicemail from the police saying he needed to come by the station to pick up his ticket. He said they absolutely knew what was up, but there was nothing they could do about it. Then he had to pay to get it out of the impound lot, then towed to a shop. All still cheaper than a DUI. Lucky prick.
SquirrelBowl@reddit
You walk away and then claim you had no idea someone took your car
Fantastic-Chip125@reddit
This is absolutely true. As a bartender a group of my regulars were defensive attorneys as basically they said out a bottle of booze in your glove compartment and jug it in front of the cop outside if you get pulled over
Born-Value-779@reddit
Thesis literally sassy-pants af, but i like it.
VSVNASA@reddit
You could also not drive drunk.
updogg18@reddit
If you can afford a drink, you can afford a taxi. Yeah, I know what this sub is about
freakthezeke@reddit
I get the sub but if you drink and drive you’re a real pos. So stupid and selfish. If you wanna drink and not drive just stay home and drink by yourself, don’t risk everyone else’s life bc you can’t be fucked to get a ride home and you wanna be social.
FakeAsFakeCanBe@reddit
A Vancouver Police officer did this. I think he got off easy but I can't remember much and a search just says he did it.
atharakhan@reddit
This was the plot of an episode of The Practice. Just had a flashback.
HausWife88@reddit
I just left my car and had someone pick me up. Cops showed up at my door about 20 minutes later (i have a door camera) but i wasn’t even there. Lol highway patrol sent me an accident report in the mail and i never filled it out. Nothing ever came of it lolol
Charlie_Alpha_Zulu@reddit
You’ll be charged with leaving the scene of an accident but I guess it might work
pjmorin20@reddit
How about just not drink and drive. ffs
Shits not funny and people's mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters are killed because youre too stupid to just NOT DRIVE.
This is not a cool 'ulpt' . At all.
Uglyangel74@reddit
I had a client who was totally drunk. He called AAA and said he needed to get his car home. It worked.
Scareltt@reddit
This one is also interesting (I’m from a family of Lawyers)
Keep a 5th in your glove box. If you’ve been drinking and get pulled over. Normal procedure is the cop will tell you why they stopped you. You’ll give him your documents.
In Missouri they’ll take the documents and run you through the system.
While they’re gone, get that bottle and start drinking.. when the cop comes back and asks “what the hell you’re doing “
“I just started drinking.”
Technically you’re already in their custody… that will create a ton of confusion.. keep drinking
jdehjdeh@reddit
If they want you enough, it's provable that you're lying via blood test.
Depends on how much time and effort they want to put into it.
CurtisRichardson@reddit
This… and if they want you bad enough…. Nothing matter pd
tacocat978@reddit
The man I was supposed to marry was killed by a drunk driver. Same summer a family friend’s 17 year old daughter. Anyone who chooses to drive drunk can kindly fuck themselves.
4-ton-mantis@reddit
Yes I'm so with this. One took my daddy away when i was 5. I don't understand why this post has 1.1k "upvotes". I don't even drink period mostly as a result of that.
People who have not lost important people in this way really don't seem to get it.
tacocat978@reddit
I’m so sorry for your loss. Horrifically unfair. 💜
4-ton-mantis@reddit
Thank you so much for your compassion
rodr3357@reddit
Anyone that chooses to drive drunk can kindly run off the road and into the first sturdy tree they find.
Hit it hard so you don’t walk away
idonotknowwhototrust@reddit
Or not kindly
tacocat978@reddit
Very well, I accept that.
BrightWubs22@reddit
Same sentiment. My grandpa died from an impaired driver.
Drunk drivers can unkindly fuck themselves.
DragonChaserBTH@reddit
A cop once told me he pulled someone over, and the driver immediately opened his door, tossed his keys into a field on the side of the road, then cracked the seal on a fifth and chugged it right there in full view of the dashcam. No idea how it ended for him, but I could see plausible deniability there
CubesTheGamer@reddit
/r/illegallifeprotips
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
It’s not even that hard. If you’re in any accident while drunk the first thing you do is leave the scene. Far and fast. Doesn’t matter if people see you, you want to be nowhere near your vehicle.
Even if it’s your car, the prosecution will have a hell of a time proving you were drunk and culpable.
Blueballs2130@reddit
Had a buddy do that about 20 years ago. Hit a telephone pole at 3 am, no one else involved. He wasn’t hurt so he walked to the closest house and called his mom who came and got him. Police showed up at their house the next day but couldn’t prove he was drunk when he wrecked. He just told them he hit his head and couldn’t remember the crash
We were pissed that he never called his friends the next day bc we spent all morning calling every hospital and jail within 50 miles looking for him. And no we didn’t send him on his way drunk af, he was sleeping in the car waiting for the driver and woke up and decided he would just drive himself home
TeamCro88@reddit
In Germany, they force you to take your blood if you resist
Blueballs2130@reddit
Doesn’t matter if they would’ve taken his blood. It was 12 hours later
bocaciega@reddit
Had a friend do something similar. But he ended up lying, saying someone stole his car from the party and crashed it. He got away with it. Weird.
kellyoohh@reddit
Knew someone who did this too. No evidence to the contrary and his insurance paid him out. Made me so mad.
Educational-Bad4992@reddit
Also had a friend do this except insurance called him and told him he had one chance to rescind the claim or they were turning it over to the police for insurance fraud.
explicittv@reddit
Lol I know someone who went through something similar. Difference is he went home and went to bed and was planning to call the car in as stolen the next day. Only problem was the cops found the car first and went to his house, wife answers the door and he comes down to talk to them with no shirt on. Unbeknownst to him he had a steering wheel shaped bruise on his chest.
SirSamuelVimes83@reddit
Had a buddy crash into someone's porch. Somehow his car was still functional despite damage to the radiator and front end, and he made it home to park in his garage. Except he left his bumper with license plate at the scene. Cops came knocking at 5am. Still tons of legal trouble, but intoxication at the time of the crash couldn't be proven
bigboyboozerrr@reddit
Don’t you automatically get a suspended license for a year for refusing the breathalyzer at the station? They can just get a warrant for your blood and draw it if they want your BAC
DaftPump@reddit
Depends where you live.
ChillyPhilly27@reddit
Aren't hit and runs offences in their own right in most jurisdictions?
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
Yeah this won’t work for you if you hit another person. But for scenery, this is the play.
EmptyNametag@reddit
To be fair the vast majority of DUIs I’ve seen have arisen from a traffic stop, not an accident.
heyitscory@reddit
Be sure to turn off your phone at the crash site and not turn it on until you get home, so there's no evidence you went home from there.
MeAndDuke@reddit
I read a post on X (yeah grain of salt or something) that said they were pulled over obviously drunk.
Person got out and chugged vodka bottle. Said couldn't prove that they were impaired while driving or impaired once stopped and pounded the vodka.
Prob never happened but interesting concept.
Something_McGee@reddit
I read a post on here not too long ago about a supposedly real way that someone avoided a DUI. The guy claimed to have stabbed himself in the leg. He said he got pulled over while driving drunk and was so afraid at the thought of going to jail, so he stabbed himself. He told the cop some psycho attacked him outside of a bar and he used his car to get away. He might've said the guy was still following him or he was trying to get to a hospital. The story was a little more elaborative than simply stabbing himself and saying he was trying to get away from an attacker. He claimed his excuse worked. lol
siraly533@reddit
Don't America haver chauffeur service? We haver it in Hungary: a car (usually a beater, since no taxi licence required) has 2 workers, one sits to your car and driver you home, the other picks her/him up after. It's a little bit more expensive, but worth it.
DaftPump@reddit
Sure they do. Many celebrities get nailed with DUI while they can easily afford this service. Much of the public can afford it too.
cjw7x@reddit
I was a driver for a service like this in my area in the US for a few years. It shut down because they couldn't keep enough drivers on call.
4-ton-mantis@reddit
Wow a lot of people supporting drunk driving, over 1k likes.
I know you say "not involving anyone else" but some of us can do a clearer risk analysis. When i was five the drunk driver Geraldine Dunlap killed my father as a passenger in his car and it was in the police reports and interviews she had been drinking, but not a single charge not even a ticket.
Down vote me as you will but i guess i can't understand the lack of weighing risks, or maybe apathy towards risks of others. He was the only family i ever had so it kinda ruined my life and I'm sorry everyone that in this i cannot see outside my own view. I try to in order to understand but i can't. I'm sorry.
DaftPump@reddit
Keep in mind the sub you are on and set your incredulity aside. I won't downvote you.
atowntommy@reddit
Why isn't "just don't drive "drunk" in this thread?
DaftPump@reddit
They dominate the post. Con is it is not answering OP and some replies teeter on breaking sub rules.
simpson227@reddit
Wisconsin if the Florida of the Midwest!
pinkdiscolemonade@reddit
Couldn't you just say that your car was stolen and crashed while you were at the bar? They can't prove that you were in the car if there are no witnesses.
jrgman42@reddit
I heard this as always having a six-pack in your trunk.
beantoes1610@reddit
I work for an attorney and he's told me about early client (this would've been in the 70's/80's) of his who was driving drunk and still actively drinking while driving. He got pulled over and immediately started chugging whiskey when the cop got to his window and, yeah, he got out of the DUI but got hit with a myriad of other charges
A00087945@reddit
lol I saw a body cam footage of a guy who wakes up from blackout crash, and claims he was so shaken up he began to immediately drink and tossed some of the empty shooters in the back. Funny thing is they have footage of the guy waking up from the crash disoriented as hell and a grocery bag full of empties in his back seat lol needless to say, in this situation the ULPT did not work lol
Suck_it_Cheeto_Luvrs@reddit
Take a Lyft or Uber and stop trying to put people's lives at risk. That's messed up!
SJPop@reddit
It's true. You don't have to take a walk even. Take an Uber. Idk how my brother got away with this, but he lost consciousness while driving after taking drugs. He hit a jersey barrier and when he woke up there were cops and EMTs around them. He told them he was diabetic and it worked. How in the world he convinced them of that, and without consequences idk.
mickeyaaaa@reddit
this is kinda infringing on rule 14. anyone who does this is a dick. don't drink and drive ffs.
hotwateronwool_@reddit
I always thought best way if you crash while drunk and no one else is involved just go home and report your car as stolen the next day
recigar@reddit
If you’re getting pulled over to get breathalysed, hyperventilated as hard as you can immediately for as long as you can until they breathalyse you. You breathe off the latent alcohol in your lungs and show a lower level than your blood alcohol truly is.
luckymountain@reddit
I was on a jury where the defendant was driving erratically and someone reported him to the police. Before a unit could track him down, the police helicopter was following him using a night vision camera and we viewed the footage. The patrol car got to his house a few minutes after he got home and knocked on his door. He was inebriated, but claimed that he drank a bunch of liquor after he got there, not before driving. The video, and other testimony, was enough for us to find him guilty.
Upper-Season1090@reddit
Yes this is absolutely the case. You could also keep a bottle of liquor in your trunk and pull it out and start drinking it immediately if there are other people on scene. “I’m an alcoholic and this is how I deal with stress” You’ll probably end up in rehab but it’s cheaper than a dui/dwi
Few_Membership_4563@reddit
Guy I worked with rolled his mk1 golf gti in Norfolk, uk, went back to his hotel, police came an hour later, he said he panicked, went home and drank. Got away with it.
Old-Description7219@reddit
Loser behaviour.
spartynole4life@reddit
“Relevant time after driving.” Timing of the drinking can create reasonable doubt. However, every states DWI laws vary drastically. Better option…don’t drink and drive.
TrojanVP@reddit
Or if you get pulled over, start chugging a bottle of vodka. Can’t prove you were drunk before.
bella_lucky7@reddit
You're consuming alcohol while in a motor vehicle, this won't help lol
LSDelivery@reddit
They might get you for open container but that's way better than a DUI
Healter-Skelter@reddit
I think they’re the same charge in many states
realDespond@reddit
the key part this guy is missing is you toss the keys into the woods before chugging as much as possible
LILLYSAP@reddit
And behind the wheel with the keys in the ignition.
Material-Drawer-7419@reddit
This is a myth. The district attorney will bring in a criminalist to testify in court. The criminalist will bust out a calculator on the stand and explain for the jury that the .15 BAC (using that # as an example) in conjunction with the person’s gender, height & weight meant that the person had X number of drinks prior to their police encounter and that based on said factors above, the person likely has an uptake and clearance rate that could not suddenly equate to a .15 BAC right after the person chugged vodka.
I’ve seen this play out in court many times with those that have tried this defense. Jury’s don’t buy the sudden drinking defense after a criminalist has testified.
PandaRaper@reddit
That’s a pint of vodka. Easily achievable for an alcoholic. A district attorney for a dui? A JURY for a dui?! What the ever moving fuck are you make believing.
Material-Drawer-7419@reddit
Tell me you’ve never spent time in a courtroom without telling me. And not just traffic court. Real courtrooms where misdemeanor and felony cases are prosecuted.
It may come as a shock to you but DA’s do in fact prosecute DUI’s, especially when people play games like this..especially when they play games like this on their second and third DUI, thinking they can outsmart the judicial system. In my county, the DA’a office has a misdemeanor trial team that only does misdemeanor trials like this.
And yes, these trials are quick. Jury selection takes longer to conduct than the actual evidence portion of the trial, which is when the criminologist is brought in to testify as an expert witness.
And yes, I’m a bailiff…
PandaRaper@reddit
DAs are in the courtroom but they rarely do any actual judicial work. They take a police report and hear the testimony of the police and (hopefully for the defendant) a testimony from a lawyer. It’s the judge that does the prosecution. Mr “bailiff”.
Material-Drawer-7419@reddit
Ha! You really don’t know shit about the judicial system do you? Judges do absolutely zero prosecution in DUI trials (or any trial for that matter) and only act as the referee between the prosecution and defense during court trials. Judges are responsible for upholding the law inside their courtroom and ensuring that both the prosecution and defense receive a fair trial, using the criminal code and case law as their guide.
The fact that you believe DA’s take testimony from other lawyers demonstrates to me that you’ve never actually sat through a trial before, especially a DUI trial. Had you done so, you would know that among the many instruction a judge reads to a jury is “you are not to consider anything the lawyers say. Nothing they say is evidence. None of their questions are evidence. Only the witnesses answers are considered evidence.”
You should learn about the court system and actually attend a trial from start to finish before talking out of your ass.
PandaRaper@reddit
I don’t think you understood my comment at all.
Material-Drawer-7419@reddit
“DA’s are in the courtroom but they rarely do any actual judicial work.”
This couldn’t be any further from the truth. DA’s work their asses off to prepare for trials and also do a shit ton throughout the trial. Who do you think does all the contacting of the witnesses, schedules the witnesses for court, and preparation for questioning during direct examination? Who do think has to come up with strategic and targeted questions for cross examination of defense witnesses?
“They take a police report and hear the testimony of the police and (hopefully for the defendant) a testimony from a lawyer.”
Your words, not mine. You clearly stated that a lawyer testifies for his defendant client. You were wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it.
“It’s the judge that does the prosecution.”
This is the most laughable statement of them all. It’s the DA that files charges against the defendant, NOT the judge. It’s the DA that has the power to drop charges at any point in time during the pre-trial process, NOT the judge.
I didn’t misunderstand anything about your comment. It was clear what you wrote and it was clear that you don’t know shit about the judicial system. Like I said previously, you should educate yourself about the judicial system and even go view a trial from start to finish. Until then, you’re just talking out of your ass and debating a topic of which you clearly lack knowledge.
PandaRaper@reddit
This is a wild amount of words for clearly misunderstanding a comment. Shouldn’t you be doing your job as a bailiff?
I assure you I have been very present for DUI cases start to finish.
EmptyNametag@reddit
I’m not sure what you’re talking about. DUI’s, DWI’s, OWI’s, etc. are almost universally misdemeanor to felony charges prosecuted by an assistant district attorney or assistant state’s attorney at trials, some of those being by the bench and others by a jury. Hell, I’ve seen jury trials for speeding tickets when the defendant filed a demand.
PandaRaper@reddit
Over 90% of them don’t go to trial. Also if they do it’s because of a unique situation.
What the hell is your experience where you think this?
EmptyNametag@reddit
An ADA would still handle the plea deal. I am an ADA who prosecuted DUIs, I ought to know.
PandaRaper@reddit
They get denied. Almost every time.
RurouniRinku@reddit
I've had multiple family members do something similar. Any time they've ran off the road, they abandoned the vehicle and went home. They usually get charged with leaving the scene of an accident, but that's better than catching a DUI.
Also, though I don't condone drinking and driving, the reality is there's plenty of places in America where if you didn't go with a sober friend, then that's the only way you're getting home. Uber isn't a guarantee, especially at midnight in the boonies and your house is 30 minutes in the opposite direction from town, which is another 15 minutes away because they had to put the bar on the county line since the nearest town is in a dry county
senorbuzz@reddit
Or hear me out… you go out and don’t drink if you know you have no other way home
RurouniRinku@reddit
That would be too ethical for this sub
JohnyStringCheese@reddit
A guy I went to high school tried almost exactly this. He hit and killed a kid while drunk. He left the scene, went to his apartment and continued drinking. This happened at like 3:00PM, broad daylight, on a main road in a busy town. Police showed up within 2 hours and arrested him. I guess it kind of worked as he was not ultimately charged with a DUI but when you run someone down and leave the scene, a DUI is just icing on the cake at that point. You don't need a licence in jail. He told the police he thought he hit a dog and was upset so he started drinking. He was released on bond and the charges were evading responsibility, some bullshit traffic violations, etc. He probably could have gotten away without any actual prison time but this absolute moron goes out and gets an actual DUI on the 1 year anniversary of the incident which was like a few weeks before sentencing. It's almost poetic. The judge went and gave him the maximum on every guilty charge, so it was almost like the universe corrected itself.
milllosz@reddit
in Poland they introduced the law to resolve this issue, that states that if you are drunk after the accident, you are automatically charged of DUI accident
stonedsand-_-@reddit
My buddy once drove drunk and crashed into a small tree next to a wall. His car was newer so it detected the crash and called the cops. He couldn't figure out how to hang up on the lady so he just turned his car off and then got out to check the crash out. The cops then rolled up and went straight into a DUI test but since they weren't called about DUI, they were called for a single vehicle crash his lawyer talked it down. Homie has said he deserved more and hasn't driven drunk since.
MolassesDry333@reddit
Leaving scene of accident can be linked to Owi/Dui if reasonably suspected. Level of impairment is based on time passes since first drink, so breath sample would still be valid. And if denied then back to square 1 anyway
lcdroundsystem@reddit
This is the Kevin O’Leary (Mr wonderful) wife’s guide to killing ppl in a boat
simplebutstrange@reddit
How about just dont be a pos drunk driver?
Baboulas666@reddit
We have laws to counter this in Canada. If you are involved in something like an collision and police have a reason to come looking for you, AND you have high blood alcohol content then you can be charged.
sysop2600@reddit
I'm an absolute degenerate and even I don't drink and drive.
Rx_Diva@reddit
Degens gotta represent. Now how do we feel about driving on weed?
GrandMasterPopPop@reddit
Better than driving drunk but probably not great still
vxtmh@reddit
ngl I drive better when high, as long as the music's off
sysop2600@reddit
I smoke a lot of weed, but only at home.
TheLittleBobRol@reddit
Doesn't work in Canada, you can be charged with a DUI if you are intoxiciated within 2 or 3 (don't remember whichl hours of driving
Elegant-Expert7575@reddit
I know a cop that used this sort of excuse after he killed a young man. He said he was so shaken, he went home and had a couple drinks.
No drunk driving charges. A year conditional sentence for obstruction.
Sickly unjust
TheHancock@reddit
A (potentially) better ULPT is to NEVER let them test you on site if you really have been drinking. You’re getting arrested no matter what, but you’ll be less drunk in 30 minutes to an hour when they can forcibly test you back at the station. Hold out as long as possible for better results.
But also, just don’t drink and drive. I don’t care about you, but a lot of innocent bystanders get hurt and killed by DUIs…
hivernageprofond@reddit
I think this belongs in the r/DiabolicalUnAliveProTips
CBus-Eagle@reddit
I had a lawyer tell me this. He got into a car accident and he had been drinking, but wasn’t sure if he was over the limit. As they were waiting for the police, he excused himself and went into the bar across the street and took a shot. When the cop asked why he left the scene, he said he needed a drink to calm his nerves.
green91791@reddit
My uncle did something similar. He totaled his car and walked like 5 miles home. Avoided the dui. Got charged with leaving the scene of an accident, driving with out a license, (lost becasue of multiple duis). And a couple other things. Still got 5 years though for all the other charges.
Signal-Self-353@reddit
Great tip but please don’t drive drunk
Zmiller247@reddit
Back in my day… the legend was that after you get pulled over, you open a brand new bottle of liquor in front of the cop and take a few big drinks. Then they can’t prove if you were intoxicated prior or after. Still getting arrested either way.
guycoastal@reddit
I’ll only share this. If you think you’re anywhere close to blowing over, tell the PO you just finished a drink. This’ll mean they have to wait 20 minutes before administering the test. That’s 20 minutes your body has to eliminate alcohol from your system. When it gets close to blowing, start hyperventilating to slow your heart rate and subsequently slowing the rate of blood passing through your lungs. When you then blow, take the biggest and fastest breath possible and blow as fast and hard as you can. This will increase the amount of air and decrease the amount of alcohol that can go from alveoli to oxygen and can shave a couple points of the final result.
Dry_Patience9849@reddit
Can this strategy be improved by just having airplane bottles in the car, that way you don’t even need to leave the scene?
Cricket_Piss@reddit
I’ve heard someone insist that if you get pulled over driving drunk, you can quickly snort a line of cocaine before the officer gets to your window and you’ll blow a zero. I have absolutely no idea if that’s true, and I sincerely doubt it, but I don’t intend to find out - best solution is to never drink and drive.
Due-Ad-8743@reddit
I was in traffic court in NJ and watched another case while waiting. Truck driver ran off the road because of snow on the exit ramp. Walked down to a Holiday Inn to call for help. He got arrested there. Failed 2 Breathalizers, passed the 3rd. His attorney was trying to get him off on that basis. This would have been the perfect time to have a drink before the cops showed up. I think they still would have suspended his CDL but not for as long as a DUI
KingVape@reddit
My girlfriend’s uncle did this but they still gave him the DUI lmao
Ok_Shirt_129@reddit
I can attest to this. Guy comes in, orders Jack on the rocks. Sucks it down and reorders. Insists on a written tab with credit card. Goes for three and four before I say he needs to slow it down that I can’t keep serving him like that. He goes on to tell me he is just trying to calm his nerves he just flipped his truck on the adjacent highway. It was cold and wet out, he just zipped his jacket and said he was going back to wait for the police. Was visited by two officers to confirm his story and see his tab. Smart enough drunk to make sure he had his drinks written down.
an_ephemeral_life@reddit
And if you do get pulled over while driving (and not crashing your car), don't agree to any of the tests. Don't agree to a breathalyzer, walking the line, blood tests, etc. The less info you give the police, the better. You'll probably get arrested, and once you get out after bail is made, you find the best DUI lawyer you can afford (stay away from public defenders). You'll go to court and, if your lawyer is worth what you're paying him for, the case will get extended. If it keeps getting extended, the chances increase that the cop won't show up. And if that happens, and if the judge is lenient enough, the lawyer will ask for a dismissal, and your case is history. No DUI on record.
revets@reddit
Don’t agree to the preliminary breath test. The little roadside handheld ones most cops carry. But if you’ve been arrested it’s generally a poor idea to refuse the big boy breathalyzer at the station. In most states you consent to submitting to those when you get your license.
an_ephemeral_life@reddit
I suppose it varies state to state, but in my state, it is not mandatory to do the breathalyzer test at the station. You're just giving more ammunition to the prosecutor -- if you blow over the limit, you're pretty much dead to rights. But if you don't blow, the lawyer can mount a plausible defense.
pnutbutterandjerky@reddit
If you refuse a chemical test the dmv will automatically suspend your license for a year
an_ephemeral_life@reddit
If you lose the case, yes. If it's dismissed, then everything's given back: license and bail money (at least that's how it is in my state; can't speak for other states)
pnutbutterandjerky@reddit
In mine the court and the dmv are seperate. The dmv will uphold the license suspension. Also the cops will warrant your blood which is a very fast process so you refuse the test, they get your blood anyways, and then you lose your license by the dmv.
MrCuzz@reddit
I’ve had a conversation about this before with a LEO. They will arrest your ass and do a blood draw; apparently that can tell how long the alcohol has been in your system.
They will add a hit-and-run to your DUI for their trouble.
randonumero@reddit
A blood draw and/or a breathlyzer can help to provide an estimate about how much and how long you've been drinking. A decent lawyer will often challenge the results. A well connected lawyer may get the results thrown out or they may be able to have the jury instructed to ignore speculation about how much or when you started.
I don't think many cops would not arrest you for DUI in this case. The case may not move forward but I'm pretty sure you'll 9/10 be arrested unless you take a breathalyzer and blow under the legal limit. The closest actual loophole I've found in my state is if you're passed out since AFAIK my state doesn't allow the blood draw without consent.
pnutbutterandjerky@reddit
Yup they can and will get a warrant for your blood. It is very fast, and when they do you will be guilty and the dmv will also automatically suspend your license instead of giving you a hearing
andycairns@reddit
Policeman told me once just leave the scene. Don't go home as they can find you. Report it next day when sober and claim concussion.
myloveisajoke@reddit
Saw this work IRL. Friend crashed car near to house we were partying at. Walked back to party. Walked back to car...police were there. Told police he didn't drink until he got to house after the crash.
randonumero@reddit
I wouldn't rely on this. Depending on how drunk you are, the bar may refuse to serve you. The bartender may also tell the cops that you arrived with the smell of alcohol on you. You're probably also going to have to reject the breathalyzer and stall for time.
thrulim123@reddit
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/woman-fined-for-passing-gin-to-driver-after-car-crash-to-interfere-with-breathalyser-test?ref=top-stories
Happened in Singapore
thermal_shock@reddit
No, fuck drunk drivers.
4-ton-mantis@reddit
Why are thete no longer groups against drunk drivers like madd and sadd? I couldn't even find a sub reddit for it.
CoolBakedBean@reddit
r/stopdrinking
cash77cash@reddit
No one will believe me but me and two friends were all in a car together, driving home drunk from a bar at 2am. We were speeding around corners, went off the road and into a house. We panicked and ran. When the police finally got a hold of us (the next day), they brought us in separately and questioned us seperately. None of us admitted we were the one who was driving. None of us were charged.
Capable_Victory_7807@reddit
I heard a similar story but the guy pulled out a previously unopened bottle of vodka and started chugging it. Says they couldn't prove he was drunk when he crashed or after. I also don't know how effective this would be.
tranquilrage73@reddit
Drinking in a car, even if it isn't moving, is also against the law.
rlander@reddit
So chug it ousltside
Capable_Victory_7807@reddit
exactly, I forgot to mention that he (allegedly) stepped out of the car first
Savet@reddit
Fleeing the scene of an accident is a pro tip?
DanfromCalgary@reddit
I remember that heir to the red bull empire struck a cop while racing through a street and dragged him ten miles before he died . He than drove home and “drank” so was able to get off saying he didn’t know he had hit and dragged the cop. Last I remember they kept offering money to the family to fuck off
dollyducky@reddit
This exact hack was pulled off publicly and to success by Joe Guidice, the husband of the most infamous Real Housewife of New Jersey.
User_Many_Errors@reddit
Yea it’s better to get the wrap for fleeing a scene over a dui
say592@reddit
Many years ago an acquaintance hit a tree while drunk. He walked the remaining 1.5 miles home, had a few more drinks, then the next afternoon went to look for his car. It had been towed, and he said the cops seemed like they understood what happened but couldn't really do anything about it.
ohdope2000@reddit
You can avoid a DUI by not driving drunk like a degenerate piece of shit. Been doing it for years and years.
Timmerdogg@reddit
I met a guy at a party that told me that he got drunk and crashed his truck into a tree. He got out, walked home, went to sleep and the cops started knocking on his door. He told them his truck must have gotten stolen in the middle of the night. Dude never got pinched for it to the best of my knowledge
cjw7x@reddit
Not sure how well this works if there are cameras in the vicinity.
CloudBitter5295@reddit
My coworker did this. Crashed his car, fled the scene and reported it stolen. Got the insurance money and bought a Cadillac
BadFez@reddit
This sounds like advice from folks who self represent in court and sell their own homes.
Whizzymontana@reddit
I've won in court representing myself and used to drink and drive. My DUI is why I now represent myself in court. I wasted 3k and could've just did what I paid the lawyer to do. No mentions of the BS reason for getting pulled over. No mention of the slope the sobriety test was given on. Nothing to defend me. Just, we'll take the plea your honor. Long story long. Don't drink and drive. 6 years sober and much longer not D&D. In today's age, theres no excuse. Get a fucking Uber!
cjw7x@reddit
Those dui lawyers do the least amount possible for their fee.
PadmesBabyDaddy@reddit
I know 2 different people who crashed their cars while driving drunk and just walked away and played dumb. Not sure what the consequences were, but I do know neither got a DUI.
Rx_Diva@reddit
Exactly. Those that believe they are sovereign as shit. r/confidentialityincorrect crowd.
green_prepper@reddit
If you get pulled over: Roll up your windows and lock your car. Wait for the officer to come over to your car where he can see you. Pull a bottle of liquor out from under your seat. Show the officer that the bottle is sealed. Break the seal in front of him and start chugging. By the time they get you out of the car you will be drunk but there’s no way to prove you were already drunk when they pulled you over.
dsm5lovechild@reddit
Not cooperating with police and then reaching under your seat is a very easy way to get shot.
green_prepper@reddit
Okay maybe not under the seat
j3rdog@reddit
It even easier than that. Just get an uber home and the next day when you’re sober call a wrecker to get your car. If the cops show up just take the fifth and don’t answer their questions. They don’t know who was driving and they would have the burden to prove it was you.
whitecollarpizzaman@reddit
A lot of times if the crash is bad enough they don’t even focus on the alcohol aspect. My friend was hanging out with one of his (former) friends and they crashed into a convention center in my city, driver was taken to the hospital and was never checked, my friend was driven home in a cop car.
ljanus245@reddit
Extrapolation theory leaves a wide margin of error for this strategy to fail.
Fluffy-Study-659@reddit
this post is promoting drunk driving. please remove it or I will report it as self-harm
Entire_Cheetah_7878@reddit
If you crash then you just leave the scene and go home, pretend you're not home if the cops come and then report your car stolen in the morning
hundreddollar@reddit
It doesn't work. At least in the UK it doesn't work. A bloke near me crashed at 7am in the morning into three cars on my street, he was still drunk from the night before so went in the house, poured himself a big glass of wine and stood drinking it in full view of all the witnesses etc. Apparently it was to "steady his nerves". Police were rung, they breathalyzed the bloke on the spot and took him away. The Police were having none of the "I only just got drunk NOW officer" defense. I watched the whole thing from my doorstep in my PJs.
yanontherun77@reddit
This is a very old ‘trick’ the popo are well aware of. Do not expect it to work without some serious convincing.
alee0224@reddit
Become the judge of a small town for many years. This happened in my home town. My dad worked for the city. He went out to eat with my mom that night (he was DD). See. The judge was drinking heavily. Judge is a toolbox, is rude to everyone, and would beats his wife and kids.
My dad offered to drive him home on his way out of the restaurant. But he refused. My dad stayed back waiting for him and he got in his car and the judge started driving off. My dad followed him and called the police. They weren’t going to do anything because I guess that it wasn’t the first time (the officer admitted).
My dad said that he would go to the media if something wasn’t done. The judge left and my dad stopped working for the city.
Offramp182@reddit
Commit murder. No one will care about your DUI if the cops are digging up bodies from under your patio
Iamdrasnia@reddit
I guess in theory this could work.
You would need to be a stone cold liar to pull it but shizzzzz....
Highly plausible.
Iamdrasnia@reddit
..only problem is that any DA worth their salt would question the time.
fanglazy@reddit
This is exactly why politicians have pushed for mandatory sentences for hit and run.
lensiky@reddit
Just like getting pulled over then turning car off stepping out and immediately cracking your hard liquor of choice and taking some swigs. Have to find a ride after/tow but no dui
NikolitRistissa@reddit
Or just don’t be a fucking moron who endangers everyone around them. Take a taxi or walk.
Miggidy_mike@reddit
I saw this on an episode of Cops. Dude ran off the road into a part of the construction zone. He went into a bar that was next to the road and called the wrecker and "had a couple of drinks while he waited". You could tell the officer wasn't buying it but what could he do?
Shigglyboo@reddit
An old guy who rented a room in my house crashed his car. He got my GF to pick him up. Reported it stolen. Got away with it. Had to move back in with his parents. Guy was an absolute train wreck. Alcoholic and not cool. Just call a taxi.
litux@reddit
Some countries have specific rules for this. Anything you drink between an accident and the administration of the alcohol test is considered to already have been in your system at the time of the accident. Or there is a rule that says that drinking after an accident is the same level of illegal as drunk driving or refusing a test.
Packagedpackage@reddit
My city has cams on nearly every street that cops will pull footage from for even red light runners. I don’t see this workin in my area.
SnooPandas1899@reddit
the risk of injury or leaving blood trail is too high.
but lets say there was miraculous no injuries.
they can check surveillance to see if car's driving behavior was erratic and unsafe prior to crash.
they can test BAC and adjust timeline, so buying a single beer won't register over .08 right away.
(unless someone gulped down multiple hard liquor shots right away).
IAmFacinatedByYou@reddit
The actual trick is to step out of the car, throw your keys into the grass, and then down a bottle quick right in front of them
The REAL trick is to not drive when you're drunk
bogan_hippy@reddit
I had a mate do this. Blind as fuck, overshot the corner and drove into someone's fence. His house was a block away so he legged it home and kept drinking. Cops showed up shortly after, breathalysed and blew 3x the legal limit, but because he'd fled the scene they had no way of determining if he was drunk when he'd crashed into the fence.
He went to court for the damaged fence and fleeing the scene. His vehicle was marked as "high risk" and was forever getting pulled over/breathalysed for years afterwards.
lilonionforager@reddit
I saw a bodycam video where the dude claimed he was so drunk when they got there because he was stressed from the crash and drank a bunch of mini bottles he had in his emergency kit. He got a DUI lmao
migsmcgee2019@reddit
technically your right and running from a scene of accident is better than a dui so there will be some charges but least not that and as above don’t drink and drive
HomersDonuts@reddit
Saw this on an episode of COPS.
Drunk driver crashes car. IMMEDIATELY started pounding booze at the accident scene. Cops got there and he claimed to have started drinking at the scene because of anxiety. They couldn’t prove that he was drunk before the crash.
Godzirrraaa@reddit
Let’s all just not drive drunk, ya?
Unless you really need cigarettes /s /s /s
jrm2003@reddit
I’ve also heard of the the phantom driver defense. The drunk crawls in the passenger seat after the accident. The drunk says he had one too many earlier and asked a person he just met to drive because they were sober. When police ask where the driver went, he says that the driver got out and ran away after the accident. He doesn’t know anything about this phantom driver other than his very common first name.
Can’t say that it would work again, but I know of at least one person that got away with it.
MrsTaco18@reddit
Someone in Canada tried this after killing a family. It didn’t work.
4-ton-mantis@reddit
Good.
pizza_the_mutt@reddit
In British Columbia (Canada) they solved this by making it a DUI to be drunk up to 2 hours AFTER you drove. They made this law after an RCMP officer ran over a motorcyclist then chugged a bunch of booze to avoid a charge. The same officer was part of a group that famously killed a Polish immigrant at the Vancouver airport.
ray_ruex@reddit
I know a that had an accident and was pretty drunk and caused an injury he got out and started drinking from his whiskey bottle and avoided a DWI he didn't get off scot free but didn't get a DWI
A friend said a deer run out in front of him and run off the road and rolled his truck. He got out threw his keys on the passenger side floor board and we walking around when the cops showed up. Got no charges
Another time friend was out camping and hunting with a friend. His friend got drunk and violent and beat the shit out of him. He knew he needed medical aid. He had to drive several miles to find a phone while on the verge of blacking out. Deputy show they take him to the hospital. Deputy charged him with a PI public intoxication Deputy said he would have charged him with DWI since he didn't see him driving he didn't
ButterBaconBallz@reddit
I don't think that would work. You have a finite amount of time to justify that high of a BAC. This is coming from a recovered alcoholic.
LowlowLoki@reddit
I have a friend that did this. He had a few after work and sideswiped a parked car 2 blocks from home. He told the car owner to call the police while he walked home "to get his insurance card." He walked back with a beer in hand. The cop was annoyed but never even suggested a breathalyzer test. He got a slap on the wrist.
darklord1981@reddit
Not in Victoria Australia. If consume alcohol after a collision and end up being XPCA within 3 hrs of the collision the onus is on you to prove that your BAC when recorded was SOLELY because if your post collision consumption.
The trick is to go to ground for 3 hrs
Manderelli@reddit
If you're gonna go to the trouble, why not feign surprise and say you parked at the bar and it sounds like someone stole it and then crashed it?
plotikai@reddit
i dont think so, pretty sure you can get a dui even after you get home and have a drink an hour after you get home and you're tested (at least in canada)
inn0cent-bystander@reddit
It's very easy to avoid, there's an app on your phone that takes care of it. Uber
newton_surrey@reddit
A pig in canada did it successfully.
"A former RCMP officer who used his police training to avoid a drunk driving charge following a fatal crash in Tsawwassen won't serve any jail time. Benjamin "Monty" Robinson was handed a 12-month conditional sentence in B.C."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-mountie-drank-to-calm-nerves-after-fatal-crash-1.1283884
https://www.delta-optimist.com/local-news/former-rcmp-officer-avoids-jail-time-2944242
SvenTropics@reddit
In San Diego, I read about this woman who was college age and came from an affluent family. She was driving home drunk and hit a homeless person killing him. Rather than stay and wait for emergency services, she just drove home. The next day she got a lawyer and turned herself in.
She alleged that she wasnt drunk at all despite witnesses at the bar claiming she drank a lot. She said the only reason she didn't stay there was because she was scared. They ended up charging her with felony leaving the scene of an accident where somebody was injured. If somebody isn't seriously injured in california, it's just a misdemeanor. However because someone died it was a felony. It still doesn't count as manslaughter though because they can't prove she was drunk. Iirc she just got probation. In the end, it really did work out in her favor.
Pleasant-Minute6066@reddit
If you drive drunk you deserve prison though
jhurst919@reddit
Had a roommate who did this. Like others have said, they got plenty of extra tickets but no DUI.
Any_Vacation8988@reddit
Pro tip to avoid dui- don’t drive drunk
ReleventReference@reddit
How else are those kids supposed to get to school smart guy? (It ruins the joke but obviously I don’t support dui)
Thare187@reddit
I was a Criminal Justice major in college. I had a professor, who was also a defense attorney, tell us the same thing.
CookiesAndRope@reddit
My uncle did that. Someone called in his plate so the cops showed up at his door. He knew they likely would show up so he answered the door drinking a beer saying he was so shook up that he needed a drink to calm his nerves.
SPL15@reddit
Former highschool friend got his 3rd DWI by doing this and sat in jail for 2 years because of it. Went off the road during a snow storm up north, happened to be right in front of a bar, went inside and got shitfaced while waiting forever for the tow truck, tow truck driver finally arrived & yanked his truck out but refused to give him his keys then called the police. Claimed he was dead sober before going into the ditch. Seems like a competent lawyer could’ve gotten things sorted; however, I’m guessing he couldn’t come up with the $10K+ needed for a competent lawyer.
Sweet-Lifeguard-5966@reddit
You don't need to go to a bar. Just leave the scene. You can even come back later to turn yourself in if you want. You can only be charged with leaving the scene of an accident. There's no proof that you didn't consume alcohol because you were shaken up from the accident. I know from personal experience. Btw, I've been sober over a decade now.
filtersweep@reddit
Where I live, you can get a DUI if you were stone cold sober at the time of an accident, but you ‘run’— get caught at a bar or home after drinking.
earthwulf@reddit
Isn't that in a law and order episode
van_isle_dude@reddit
An off duty cop in my city did this. Left the scene of an accident and went to a bar and started drinking IIRC they tried to show he was too drunk for the amount of alcohol he was served in the bar, but he got away with it. Of course there were other consequences, but no dui
Suitable_Shallot4183@reddit
Joe Giudice (husband of Teresa) tried this. Didn’t work out great, I don’t think.
bigboyboozerrr@reddit
Screaming omg, of course he’d be mentioned in the sub.
Haven’t gotten around to RHONJ but the legal/financial controversies in RHOSLC, RHONY, and Atlanta are crazyyy in themselves
EhMapleMoose@reddit
One thing I’ve heard is that allegedly, if you get pulled over or crash and have the wherewithal to, switch seats, toss the keys and then down a mickey of whiskey. You will be in the car and you will be drunk, but without the keys readily available they can’t say you were trying to drive under the influence and because you downed so much alcohol the prosecutor would have a hard time arguing if the breathalyzer results are from before or after you chugged a mickey of whiskey.
Onefoot199@reddit
I crashed my car a couple blocks from my house. I walked home, called the police to report the accident and requested an ambulance, I broke my hand. When the cops showed up to my house they asked how much I'd had to drink, I said several shots I'm pretty sure my hand is broken and it sucks a lot.
At the hospital I was charged with leaving the scene and reckless driving. I plead not guilty and when I spoke to the prosecutor they dropped the charges because there were no witnesses to the reckless driving and I left the scene to seek medical attention.
ThatCanadianViking@reddit
I know im late to the party but my uncle wuit drinking after he went to a bar in the 70s or 80s. Drsbk to much drove his car off the road into the woods.. walked home from there... would have been a min 45 min walk sober. And went to bed. Woke up in the morning to cops knocking on his door asking if he knew where his car was. In the driveway, wait what? Wheres my car?? (He had no memory of it) got away with it and didnt touch a drink until about 10 years ago. He'd sit on his back deck with his wife and enjoy a glass of wine once or twice a week
66NickS@reddit
Don’t drive drunk. But this does work. Low-grade science below:
When you’re tested for alcohol, there is a reading done that says what percentage of your blood is alcohol. BAC = Blood Alcohol Content/Concentration. Your body metabolizes alcohol at a rate that can be measured over time. Using this science/math, you can reasonably estimate a person’s BAC back in time.
But, when that person suddenly adds new alcohol to their system, the downward slope of BAC is interrupted and the levels climb. This new introduction of alcohol makes it difficult or impossible to calculate the previous BAC over time.
bluebird--4133@reddit
RHONJ - Joe tried this, got in an accident, walked to his brothers house, when cops showed up he said he was so shocked from the accident that he needed a couple of shots of Whiskey with his brother.
ReactionJifs@reddit
"Head to the nearest bar" is a solution for a lot of things 🍺
Klutzy_Yam_343@reddit
I watch DUI bodycam footage on YouTube almost obsessively (I know…I know…).
In the case of an accident (where the officer becomes aware of the potential for DUI after the fact) they always ask “have you had anything to drink since the accident occurred?”
Human nature is to respond “no, of course not”, but the smart answer (if you’d been drinking) would be to say something like “yes…the stress of the accident led me to open the bottle of wine/can of beer I just bought at the store to drink later and consume it”.
NullGWard@reddit
Or, if you are a drunk San Francisco firefighter involved in an on-duty crash, go into a bar and start chugging pitchers of water.
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Former-SF-firefighter-gets-probation-after-12819416.php
ggoldd@reddit
So truthful of you ever drink a sip and drive you should ALWAYS drive with your daytime running lights on. The #1 probable cause that someone gets pulled over for a DUI is driving with their headlights off. A little drinking and people forget.
reddituserperson1122@reddit
I love the idea that morons drunk enough to DUI are then going to carry off this brilliant deception (that involves “walking to the nearest bar” after crashing their vehicle).
Marlboromatt324@reddit
I’m finding it funny a bartender told someone this, when where I’m from they can go to jail for letting someone they underserved drive away.
i_suckatjavascript@reddit
This is what the cops actually told me when I asked why people flee the scene and leave their cars abandoned. It’s because when they get caught later, their BAC level will either go down or disappear by then, and it’ll be harder to prove their BAC level at the time of the accident or if they were driving under the influence.
ruthlessrg@reddit
My buddy did that in the 90s
whomda@reddit
I talked to a juror in a similar bizarre case.
A guy was pulled over for a DUI, and the cops found an open vodka bottle below the front seat. The cops placed him in handcuffs, and momentarily put the vodka bottle on the hood of the car. The guy ran over to the front of the car, and grabbed the vodka bottle with his mouth and started chugging it.
His lawyer argued obviously that any alcohol detected was due to the client's post-driving chug and he was dry before the traffic stop. I believe he got off due to a hung jury.
Individual_Profile90@reddit
I work in prosecution, is this when I remind you that even a completely sober and accidental car accident can still land you a misdemeanor? Doesn’t matter if they can’t charge you with a DUI, you’re still gonna land yourself a hit and run charge. Never leave the scene of an accident, and don’t be a selfish asshole who drunk drives. Sometimes work feels like an endless sea of DUI cases, it’s out of control.
Shark_skin_suit88@reddit
This works but u have to open a brand new bottle in front of the police dash cam when they pull up. Get out of ur car Crack the seal on the bottle chug away. Some people throw the keys 1st but that makes u look drunk and dumb.this makes u drunk but no proof u were driving drunk.
trixtah@reddit
If you drive drunk fuck you you stupid ass bitch
becca0wnz@reddit
I mean if no one else is involved and you run off the road, you’d probably be better off reporting it stolen.
boardgamejoe@reddit
I heard a story once of a guy who was stopped by a cop and he had been drinking heavily and when the cop got out of the car the guy threw his keys out the window and jumped out of the car and opened a sealed bottle of vodka and chugged it all on dashcam.
Now they cannot prove he was intoxicated before.
As weird as it is he can claim that he stopped the car, deleted the keys and then decided to start drinking heavily.
gellis12@reddit
Where I live, a cop ran over and killed someone while driving drunk, then continued driving home and drank a bunch more to try this tactic. Iirc it worked because at the time, nobody had done something so stupid before. Shortly after, the laws were changed so that if you drank after an accident and before first responders showed up, you could be charged with drunk driving.
eljp@reddit
That's how Kevin O'Leary's wife played her hand after their fatal boating accident in the Muskokas. She had a strong drink on her dock after the accident before breathalizers were administered.
MrsTaco18@reddit
The real UPLT: say your wife was the one driving
ModiKaBeta@reddit
Oh I got a better tip for you: if you can’t use public transport or afford Uber, you shouldn’t be going out to bring. Putting other people’s lives at risk to save $20 bucks is not just unethical but some vile shit.
BirdFragrant6018@reddit
Where is uber $20?
SnooPeppers2417@reddit
I witnessed the opposite happen to my mom’s best friend when I was in high school. Ran off the road near our house. Walked up to our house and split a bottle of wine while waiting for a tow truck. Neighbors called the cops saying there was a car in the ditch. Mom’s friend walked down to meet them. She was drunk at this point. Slapped her with a DUI.
2WheelR1der@reddit
The old Premier of BC loves this simple trick!
Nickbronline@reddit
Special place in hell for drunk drivers
fultonchain@reddit
This kinda works, sometimes.
If you can delay the inevitable arrest long enough to sober up, they can't establish drunk driving. The time in between is critical, it's longer than you think and if you time it wrong there are a multitude of charges they can cook up.
That still leaves you on the hook for leaving the scene and rules out an insurance claim, but that's usually a lesser charge.
FrogPosse84@reddit
John Goodman (Florida) tried this when he ran a teenager off the road into a canal because he was drunk and coked out of his mind.
Instead of trying to save the kid’s life, he ran to the nearest equestrian mobile home and took shots of Jack Daniel’s and waited for the police to find his Bentley on the side of the road…
CommunicationFar4085@reddit
The move is to keep a pint in the trunk of your car. And pound it at the scene of the accident
e11spark@reddit
Back in the day, this joke/really bad idea was to keep a few airplane bottles in your glove box, throw your keys 50 feet away, and you can drink those bottles in front of the cops. Not open container, not intending to drive, just "nervous from being pulled over"
But the real tip is don't be a fucking asshole by drinking and driving
soggysocks6123@reddit
You’d just get charged with a different crime
jdubbly19@reddit
Don’t take a breathalyzer, dont take a sobriety test. You are drunk you are gonna lose your license and spend the night in jail anyways. Refusal is always easier than a dui.
kiblick@reddit
They make you blow twice. They can tell how long you've been drinking. Just had two shots, it takes like an hour to level out in your system. If you just started drinking and you blow, it will be on the rise. Then you blow again 15 minutes, still on the rise? You just started drinking. But I if it starts to go down or levels out you've been drinking for a longer period.
Ayooooga@reddit
I’m living a version of this right now. Got a DUI a few minutes after I got home from picking up my kids. Goes to trial in April.
govunah@reddit
I'm pretty sure an old boss of mine tried this. Her story was someone side swiped her coming home, possibly from work so she would have clocked out. She called the police and went home, I'm not sure of the order of those. Police show up to do a report and she had a beer waiting and they could smell it. They gave her a dui. It's a college town and cops there were not great. She very well may have been driving drunk.
BisonHungry2049@reddit
You know it's a really unethical when the post has zero up votes 😂
ArcherInPosition@reddit
And most of the comments being upset about it lmao
TakingOfMe123@reddit
I’ve also heard to get out of the driver seat, get rid of the keys, and when the cops show up, say someone you met at a bar drove your car and ran.
Temperature-Savings@reddit
This doesnt work. There's literally a mathematical equation to predict how much and when the alcohol was drank based on BAC. Learned how to do it in my forensics toxicology class during my masters degree.
yoosernaam@reddit
I’ll bet this works all the time on CSI
A_Kazur@reddit
Scientifically you may believe this, but legally it absolutely does work. Seen it too much working at a hospital with cops and paramedics complaining about it. Local drunk heads ALWAYS got no DUI charges.
Winterheart786@reddit
i saw off duty cops do this int he same situation
slamminhole@reddit
Just don’t help them build a case by providing them a breathalyzer or field sobriety test. They’ll threaten that your license will be suspended for 6 months but that’s going bye bye anyways more than likely. You can still get a license that allows you to go to work/ get groceries or w/e (as long as you’re not driving for “fun”). If you’re lucky (which you probably will be) no charges will stick and you will have your normal license and no DUI 6 months later. This is all assuming you just got pulled over and didn’t wreck or cause damage of some other kind. Good luck out there!
biglovetravis@reddit
No tips for asshole, POS drinks who choose to drive. Too many years working ER/ICU and seeing the results.
Fuck off.
AlwaysBullishAYYY@reddit
Sir you are thinking like an ethical person, i’ll kindly remind you that this sub is for unethical people….
rodr3357@reddit
Ok, if you find a drunk pos that crashed their car, beat the piss disk out of them so they can’t leave
berrylakin@reddit
My buddy did this. He told the cops he crashed bc he was too tired and he walked home to call the police but he was so tired he fell asleep before he could call. Got some tickets but no DUI.
Unfortunately, drinking and driving is not an approved unethical activity so you're going to get a lot of ethical advice on this one.
rodr3357@reddit
I’ll give some (maybe) unethical advice: if you find a drunk driver walking away from a wreck, beat the ever loving shit out of them so they can’t walk home. They don’t deserve it
Hplant489@reddit
In many US jurisdictions including the one I was an ADA in if you're not behind the wheel if/when police showed up you wouldn't get charged because they can't "wheel" you. Just call a tow and uber home. If you get pried about it just say your friend was driving and bolted and stop talking to them.
Smash_Shop@reddit
Another easy trick for this one is don't drink and drive. Works 100% of the time.
Puzzleheaded-Cup-854@reddit
Just get a tesla with FSD in advance.
Coconut975@reddit
IIRC this is what Joe Giudice tried on Real Housewives of New Jersey.
sprout92@reddit
This is a thing, according to relatives that are police, specifically some that ran DUI squads.
One even told me a guy one drove off from a traffic stop and to his house, threw the bitch in park on the front lawn, and ran inside and housed a pint of vodka.
Cops ran in And he was just laughing.
Yea, you get other tickets. But less severe.
TheOnesWithin@reddit
Yeah, a doctor did this when he hit my mom and ran from the scene. Talked to his lawyer brother. His brother told him to open the door with a beer in his hand, and admit to the hit and run.
NoContextCarl@reddit
Its incredibly stupid to drink and drive and you wouldn't necessarily always be in the vicinity of a bar at the time. Even so, you still have to walk or manage a way to the bar, which, especially on foot still leaves you susceptible to police contact.
Now, if you suddenly arent in possession of your keys and a way to operate said car, they likely would have a harder time charging you when someone else may have been driving.
everythingistakenrly@reddit
I was actually a part of this one some time ago and I just now realized. A few years back I was drunk and got in the car with another guy who was also not sober. We just got out of town in his car when he side scraped the oncoming semi-truck. He crossed into his lane in a turn and we were lucky we did not collide head on. The guy just continued driving thinking he would get away with it like nothing happened. We stopped at the nearest gas station where he parked his car away from the road so it wouldn't be seen (it was night) and he called someone he knew with a tow truck. While we were waiting for them to come he bought a bottle of booze at the gas station and started drinking it. Guess what? 10 minutes later a police car shows up and 2 officers come right to us. Turns out the driver of the semi got a flat tyre from the impact and called the police immidiately seeing that we fled the scene. The police called all nearby gas stations and did not have to look for long. The guy got his license taken away and spent 2 days in detention. Fuck that guy I only later realized he could have got me killed.
YetiSteady@reddit
I’ve heard this too but the way I heard it was to keep a can of beer in your car and if pulled over immediately get out and start chugging the beer in front of the cop and camera. Since they can’t prove that the one beer you drank didn’t cause all of the BAC they find when they test you.
karasu_zoku@reddit
Probably don’t have RHONJ fans in here but I’m pretty sure that’s what Joe Giudice tried to pull and it didn’t work out too well for him
Goobygoodra@reddit
Why don't you just act like there is a swarm of bees in the car
spankybacon@reddit
The only add is that someone stole the car you were fleeing from a carjacking.
AladeenModaFuqa@reddit
My coworker was hammered driving, no seat belt, split his car in half and it landed on him, someone eventually found him and he’s somehow alive. No one else involved, no DUI.
SleepyCupcakeDreams@reddit
Please don't drive drunk or drinking you can seriously hurt yourself or someone else. It's not worth all the money you lose and everything. I blew a 09 in 09 l was so embarrassed. It took me YEARS to afford to get my license back even though it was only gone a year. I couldn't work. It was bad! My cousin kept pestering me and I am fully grown and should have just said no. But it was like 1:30 in the morning no one out. It was supposed to be a quick. Nope! They followed me from the gas station and popped me. Not even a short distance. My POS ex lied and told people I had my daughter in the car which was of course a bald faced lie because they would hav taken her away from me. Even if you a V think you're that drunk people have even got popped the next morning sleeping it off. Please don't drink at all Uber or DD is so much safer and more cheaper. It was so humiliating. Don't do something stupid.
JerrySenderson69@reddit
The "Pot Brothers at Law" on YouTube have some great tips for dealing with the police when high or drunk.
SDSUAZTECS@reddit
Don’t DRINK and DRIVE
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SamMeowAdams@reddit
Always run away.
Leaving the scene is a nothing charge vs a DUI.
Angel_in_the_snow@reddit
This was almost the exact advice my grandfather gave me on my 16th birthday. He said to always keep a handle of vodka in your car so if you ever drive drunk and crash you could pour a little out and say “I was so shook up I sat on the curb and started drinking” he also said “they won’t believe you but they won’t be able to prove it”
OwlFindYou86@reddit
My friend kinda did this yesterday. Except... she smashed the side mirror off another car on her way home. She didnt stop, went home a few miles away, had a drink immediately and called the police. She told them she was super panicked and didn't know what to do so she drove home and called. They totally believed her, no ticket, no trouble... exchanged insurance and went on with her day.
crash866@reddit
Years ago by a bar by me there was a 2 vehicle crash right in front of a bar. This was before cell phones and I told the 2 drivers there was a pay phone in the bar. They went in and ordered beers while they waited for the police and tow trucks.
When the police arrived they walked out with their beers in hand.
The police could not charge them with DUI as it took them over an hour to show up and they also had to Thales them inside to settle their bills.
Flyboy2020@reddit
If no one else is involved and you're not injured, report the car stolen. Can confirm, will work. When they ask how it was stolen you say I thought you would figure that out?
OreganoOfTheEarth@reddit
Had a boss do this. He actually ran from the cops after the crash. The cops chased him to his friend's place, where he opened the door with a bottle in his hand, claiming he just now took a bunch of swigs.
SomeBroOnTheInternet@reddit
This is from Ted. If you really want to take advice from Peter Griffin, that's on you
tom_yum@reddit
I remember seeing this on a TV show in the 90s
Count-per-minute@reddit
Grab the bottle out of your glove box. Slide over to the passenger seat and say the driver went for help.
emccann115@reddit
Isn't this literally a joke in the Ted TV series.
thor421@reddit
Don't try to justify driving drunk you fucking mouth breather.
ThePiachu@reddit
Sounds like a perfect way to get maximum blame put on you by default.
Miserable_Concert219@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/alcoholic-rcmp-officer-who-fled-collision-denies-charges-1.1169358
ForceGhostBuster@reddit
This worked for him. He only ended up with 1 month of house arrest and 11 months of probation.
SoggyGrayDuck@reddit
You can also run away (mostly if it's at night) and report it stolen in the morning. Just don't get caught lol
RudeOrSarcasticPt2@reddit
Well, every thing works once. After that, its up to the Universe. 😄🤔