Ryanair are probably one of the few airlines who actually land their 737s how Boeing recommend.
Pilot on this plane seems to think he was skimming a pebble across the pond by the looks of it however
Sure, but that’s not what broke the nosewheel. They landed hard, bounced, didn’t do a bounce recovery and hit nose first the second time.
You can plant a 737 really, really hard and not break it, but you can’t plant it on its face.
Yes. There was no flare. The hard landing was the cause of the lost front wheel and the nose gear being embedded in the runway due to the bounce the aircraft did. This was shitty piloting 100% of the way.
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There's no way. Either the video skips ahead, the fire crew had a heads up, or the fire crew just happened to be driving along the runway when the saw this go down. That's too fast.
Just curious, have you been on many Ryanair flights?
It seems to be the in joke of this sub that their pilots are terrible but Im yet to have an issue as a British based traveller who utilises their services somewhat regularly.
They don't make memes about hard landings.
How many hard landings have your experienced on a Ryanair flight?
I'm not Michael O'Leary, btw, "jokes" without any basis in reality just grate after a while.
Wow. I mean, wow. Best pun of the year. It was a way homer for me. I had to read the title again to get it and now I can’t stop laughing. Standing ovation!👏
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All things aside, I have always noticed landings to be a little rougher on 737 maxes than other planes. I have no idea why and other people I know say the same thing.
TBF it's a bitch of a runway to land on.. it slopes down toward the middle from both ends so the visual aspect ratio of the runway as you're landing looks odd. You're also trying to land downhill which can lead to floating and a desire to just get the wheels touched down which may have happened here. Still, it's easier than landing from the other direction where you've got an steeper offset approach. Also professional pilots should be compensating for all of the above.
This is a remarkably similar landing to when I took Air India from New Delhi to Kolkata. Hard initial landing followed by braking so hard I could hear the tires screeching on the runway. Never flying Air India again.
Well akshually.......
You shouldn't have been able to hear the tires screeching as the 737 has anti-skid protection so whatever screeching you heard was something else.
what does that even mean. FOs do a lot of landings too specially in india given the short haul nature of the market plus this is AIX which is also a short haul airline. its not like it was their first time landing a plane.
I'm not religious but monotheistic, abrahamic religions are quite different to Hinduism.
I take your general point but not all religions are the same. Anyway this is a sub about aviation
Pilot induced oscillation. Bounced off the read wheels and planted the weight on the nose gear which broke the wheels off and embedded it in the runway.
A landing gear engineer systems person somewhere in France (?) earned his paycheck. (The gear failed, not the mount or the strut, which is almost certainly deliberate)
The 737 MAX 8 tends to land relatively flat. If not handled properly, this can lead to touchdown on the nose wheel. To help mitigate this to some degree, the aircraft is equipped with the Landing Attitude Modifier (LAM) system. LAM slightly deploys the flight spoilers during landing, reducing lift and encouraging a higher angle of attack.
Essentially, yes. It is because the nose gear is longer than the other 737 models so this system helps keep the nose off the ground. Boeing's way of incorporating some fly-by-wire technology into a system that still has cable-driven components.
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I've heard it said that any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
And a landing where you can actually reuse the plane afterward? That's an excellent one.
Hmm.... let's analyze that idea. The aircraft touched down hard enough to destroy the front gear and left itself stuck on the runway. I still say too much speed on approach was the primary cause. The pilot flying got behind the aircraft, which will hopefully result in them being fired.
Hard touchdowns don't only result from high speed on approach. There are numerous factors that can cause a high impact landing. One of those factors is low speed on approach—the exact opposite of your uneducated guess.
Interestingly had a pretty rough landing back to Phuket a few weeks ago, sounded even worse than on this video 😆 https://youtube.com/shorts/aUVhHWt2m60?si=l5299FsoDAVLje2i
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This is why when I hear people joke “any landing you can walk away from is a good landing” I always disagree. Everyone walked away from this, but it was NOT a good landing!
What a poor opinion from a non-pilot. I bet the people in the plane were glad they weren't hurt. Same for the pilot.
When you're flying a gas tank around with people onboard, there's always a worse-case scenario lurking right around the corner.
Be glad this is all it was, even if it's operator error!
Evacuations generally result in some minor injuries and adds unnecessary risk, confusion/chaos, and added expense. Without a fire or immediate threat it is better to use stairs to deplane normally.
Tower/fire fighters/flight attendants will look for signs of a fire and communicate that. A hard landing like this is more likely to result in damage to the gear and airframe and less likely to result in fire. If signs of a fire are present then an evacuation is likely. It’s a dynamic situation and many people are communicating to assess ongoing threats.
Evacuations from a 737 are no joke. Over wing exits for example have no slide. Pilots extend the flaps and that IS the side. If the exits get opened before flaps are extended then they remain retracted and people are jumping off the wing. Not ideal. This is why it is crucial to follow instructions and not start an evacuation until instructed.
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