Warning issued as 5 million people told to stay inside for 34 hours
Posted by JA17MVP@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 166 comments
The National Weather Service is urging people to stay indoors during the hottest parts of the day as an unusually early-season heat event pushes temperatures into the 90s across much of Southern California. Forecasters say the 34‑hour advisory, which covers San Diego, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, Los Angeles and Ventura counties, could lead to heat-related illnesses, especially for people without access to air conditioning or those who must spend time outdoors. “This is very anomalous heat for the month of March,” NWS meteorologist Sebastian Westerink told Newsweek. “We typically don’t see upper 90s or 100s until June.”
This is collapse related because the speed of global warming is tangible now where parts of California is already hitting 90s in March during an El Nino year.
darweth@reddit
Yeah. I am in Los Angeles and I am not looking forward to it.
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
There are imbeciles in the Los Angeles subreddit trying to make out like this is normal.
They’re cherry picking a handful of years in the past when there were 1 to 3 anomalously very hot days in a month that was otherwise high fifties to low seventies, with many overcast days and some rain.
We’re going to have at least a solid week of nearly 90 to 100 degree days, it’s probably not really going to cool off after this (unless someone does some cloud seeding). But these people are like, ‘well akshually, 1879, 2007 and 2015 each had one day in the 90’s so this is pretty normal 🤤”
dolphone@reddit
There's nothing to be gained by insulting people. You and I weren't aware of this issue at some point too.
People cling on to false hope all the time. It's healthy to have some hope, so you could exercise a bit of empathy.
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
Yeah I wasn’t aware of this when I was maybe like 12 or something. These people are grown adults being willfully and persistently ignorant and/or deliberately trying to obfuscate the truth out of self-interest. And this is the type of willful stupidity and dishonesty that is responsible for wrecking our one and only planetary biosphere, the sixth mass extinction and billions in mass human casualties yet to come. We are well past the point where “empathy”, or rather coddling, of such people is itself just stupid and suicidal.
TheArcticFox444@reddit
And this is the type of willful* stupidity and dishonesty that is responsible for wrecking our one and only planetary biosphere, the sixth mass extinction and billions in mass human casualties yet to come.
Self-deception is the price we pay for having such a big brain. We are all capable of flim-flaming ourselves. We just SD about different things. Ours won't be the first civilization to fail because of it...civilizations have been rising and falling for thousands of years. It's a problem humanity just can't lick.
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
Maybe. But, do you respond in a similar way when people are criticizing, say, Trump voters? Or ICE, or The Epstein Class, or Israel? They’re all just flim-flaming themselves, bro, it’s an unavoidable part of being human.
TheArcticFox444@reddit
Self-deception is unique to the human species. It's our fatal flaw. Denial, rationalization, projection, willful ignorance...all are manifestations of self-deception. "That can't happen to me/us/here," etc. We can all fall victim to fooling ourselfs and have no recognition we have done so. Too bad this flaw got missed, overlooked, or ignored.
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
Replying over twenty days later and you still can’t even answer the question, just reiterate.
TheArcticFox444@reddit
After all this time, what was your question?
GiftToTheUniverse@reddit
Yeah, in LA there aren’t a lot of cues indicating the passing of the seasons, so upcoming 90-100s temps doesn’t sound insane. I have to stop and remember what season it is to consider that it’s bad.
Bunny_Boy_Auditor@reddit
Covid has fucked with people's brain.
a_dance_with_fire@reddit
Denial is also a hell of a drug
TheArcticFox444@reddit
Ah, yes. One of self-deception's manifestations. Yawn. Humanity's fatal flaw strikes again.
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
They were just as stupid way before Covid. Stop giving people a medical excuse for idiocy.
GalaxyPatio@reddit
Exactly. Part of why covid went (and is going) the way it dod is because people were already stupid about normalizing disaster.
Da12khawk@reddit
Winter and rain used to last months, I joked how now it was a couple of weeks. This year it lasted like 2 days.
kfish5050@reddit
Same in AZ. Usually the winter months get frosty at night. This year I think only 2 lows dropped below freezing. And now we too will hit 100 in March.
Mission_Context_8079@reddit
I don’t think their imbeciles, at least not how you mean. They’re likely bots or paid propagandists.
pacheckyourself@reddit
I feel like the recent February heat wave was fairly normal. There’s always a few days it warms up February or early March. But this next one is ridiculous and haven’t seen it in the 10 winters I’ve been here
darkpsychicenergy@reddit
I’ve been here fifty and it’s absolutely abnormal to spend nearly all “winter” comfortable in t-shirts, hoodies and flip-flops like it has been lately. 20 years ago I had enough use for wool sweaters, boots and leather coats to have an actual winter wardrobe. To have prolonged, miserable sweltering heat in March is terrifying. It’s only normal in the sense that this is what’s to be expected with climate change. And it’s only going to get worse.
AggravatingMark1367@reddit
I’m also terrified 😰
Dramatic-Club-6196@reddit
I am in northern California and they are spraying chemtrails like crazy
diederich@reddit
Oh come on, y'all have ACs, it's ok to run the air in winter, right?
Shortly after we arrived in western Washington state, this arrived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_North_America_heat_wave and the therometer on our heavily shaded front porch reached 114F. And no, we didn't have any air conditioning.
"This is fine."
Funtsy_Muntsy@reddit
Yo I lived most my life by the LA coast and would take the handful of 90s+ weeks there a million times over the humid nasty ass southern summers with no escape out here lmao
Take advantage of being able to swim, sponge or do whatever in the ocean if you have it
AntiBoATX@reddit
Socal is used to heat… why the “stay indoors” order?
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useless_rejoinder@reddit
Because the air quality will literally cause people to lose fucking iq points.
BarknuckleBill@reddit
Oh no! A stupider populace
sm04d@reddit
Right there with you, friend
ven-dake@reddit
Gtfo out of that area. Sell everything asap ,gather everyone you care for and move up north. Go! Now you still can. This is just the beginning for way worse. Stay ahead of the masses
TheUpbeatCrow@reddit
It does not ultimately matter where you go unless you are very rich and can afford a fully stocked bunker with guards in New Zealand.
The difference between living in Phoenix and living in, say, Colorado is that you might die of thirst rather than heat. Or fire. Or food systems collapse. We are interdependent on each other, and climate change is coming for us all.
When your grocery store is no longer getting stocked, what do you think you'll eat? You'll go out with your pistol and compete with the other 100,000 desperate people in your county for the last ten deer?
0-60_now_what@reddit
In VA yesterday it was 88F and today it snowed. Not f'n normal anywhere anymore. That's a seriously violent shift.
leoyoung1@reddit
33˚+ for the rest of us.
Icedtangoblast@reddit
I hate anything over 25
leoyoung1@reddit
My dad started complaining at 20˚ and stopped at 25˚. The suffering was real.
Trick-Bench-4122@reddit
We’re not protecting our lands enough from renewable energy that’s why we need to protect them more nimby please otherwise it will keep getting hotter
shivaswrath@reddit
AMOC and El Niño = bad summer ahead
ItsokImtheDr@reddit
Don’t forget about the expected Blue Ocean Event (BOE)!!!
baycenters@reddit
That trend will be reversed when the Amoc collapses.
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
An AMOC collapse would only warm European summers. In fact, the only correlation that a colder North Atlantic has in terms to European temperature are just warmer summers, and strangely no drop in temperatures in winter in Western Europe
baycenters@reddit
That does not in any way align with paleoclimate records from the last time this happened.
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
The last time was the Younger Dryas. European summers warmed, but winters also massively cooled. This isn’t a good paleoclimate comparison as CO2 concentration was far below pre-industrial, there was a lack of extremely rapid global warming like in this century, and there was far more ice in this hemisphere. This all amplified cooling feedbacks, so this summer warming would only be much stronger today. If you’re going to use the Younger Dryas, a situation where background factors much more heavily favoured cooling than today (yet still warmed summers), we may as-well also notice that the Early Eocene, where Europe has a tropical climate, didn’t have an AMOC, and it isn’t impossible for us to reach such CO2 concentrations, given disruption of carbon sinks and climate tipping points
baycenters@reddit
That seems like a massive stretch to imply Europe could become tropical. I think it's safe to say that in the near future, winters won't cool as much as compared to the Younger Dryas.
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
Europe becoming tropical seems like a worst case scenario that isn’t even achievable this century, but I’m simply using the Eocene to show that an AMOC collapse doesn’t necessarily lead to a huge cooling. Looking at present day climate change, a weaker AMOC actually has no imprint on Western European temperatures, but instead only warms summers. The only areas that I’m convinced would likely cool would be Iceland and southern Greenland, as the lack of a cooling over the rest of Europe is dependent on the strengthening Icelandic low
baycenters@reddit
Do you agree or disagree that a weakened, or collapsed Amoc will reduce northward heat transfer across the equator?
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
It would reduce ocean heat transport, but you’d also see changes to wind driven gyres, and atmospheric heat transport. The absence of sea ice feedbacks in modern climates would mean that an AMOC collapse won’t take heat away from the surface, but instead just redistribute global warming away from the warming hole, so you wouldn’t see a net cooling over much of Europe. [Orbe et al. 2023] shows this, where an AMOC collapse leads to a northward shift, and strengthening of both the Hadley Cell and Jet stream. [Oltmanns et al. 2024] shows that in practice, this warming hole actually contributed to the warming of European summers, and [Yamamoto et al. 2016] shows that it has no impact on the winter temperature on Western Europe.
In summary, you’d see other feedbacks compensating for the reduction in the AMOC, such as the subtropical gyre shifting north, and atmospheric and wind patterns changing
baycenters@reddit
Interesting. I appreciate your detailed reply. I'll see if I can wrap my head around all that.
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
No problem. I’m happy to answer any questions you have :)
baycenters@reddit
Well...Okay:) I come at this stuff from the perspective of a west coast surfer/snowboarder with roots in Oregon and southern California.
My understanding is that the result of a diminished Amoc would be that of a somewhat permanent La Nina condition for the west coast, which might point to robust winter storm activity in the northern pacific.
While down under, the southern ocean would conceivably absorb more heat, amplifying winter storm systems - in addition to the westerly wind belt shifting pole-ward and intensifying.
If the latter were occur in the southern hemisphere, that increased storm activity in my imagination translates to some seriously good days at Malibu in the summer.
Additionally, my family is involved with rye grass farming in the Willamette Valley, so I'm always wondering what's in store for all that as the temperature inexorably increases - tipping points notwithstanding.
Lucky-Opportunity395@reddit
I’ve not researched into the potential impacts outside of Europe, so I can’t really answer about the ENSO, and I don’t know how this sort of farming works.
The winter storm activity could be moved north by the Hadley Cell Shifting north, with high SST anomalies in the South Atlantic and in the subtropical gyre moving further north than most models suggest.
I am going to be working on a new research project that focuses on the whole world, not just Europe which may be useful in the future
obaban@reddit
There is an easy way to refurbish AMOC
shivaswrath@reddit
JFC it’s a triple witching summer
ItilityMSP@reddit
My bingo card is gonna be full this year.. what do I win.. heat stroke?
DranktheWater@reddit
Wet bulb event incoming?
theQVwriter@reddit
I’m central valley and oooohh boy, it’s been tshirt weather for a bit now and we’ve had stuff blooming since mid feb that isn’t supposed to til April, this summer is going to SUCK
youngbeezy88@reddit
I’m in Buffalo NY and I wore a t shirt on my walk. Been about 65* the last few days
blakezilla@reddit
Rochester here. It was really nice for a few days, and this news from California is horrible and anomalous, but a few days in the 60s in March isn’t that unusual for us. It’s going to be in the 30s and 40s again for the foreseeable future.
chronaloid@reddit
Very different weather patterns in the Northeast vs West right now
roblewk@reddit
Has the snow melted? I’ll bet there are still a few dirty piles?
youngbeezy88@reddit
I think there might be a pile of gravel and ice where they dump it at the park lol
5RussianSpaceMonkeys@reddit
I’m in MT and it’s been T-shirt weather all winter. We’ve had 4 days with snow, thanksgiving weekend, a day in January, one in February, and today. Thanksgiving’s snow lasted 2-3 days before it melted, the rest was gone by the next day. This week the forecast says it’s supposed to snow all week, so at least we’ll have that.
I_madeusay_underwear@reddit
I live in nebraska, in the extreme north east, and it was above 60 degrees for almost a week at the end of last month. We’ve only had like two major snows and it all melted within a couple weeks both times. We’re not even getting ice storms. It’s not great
abeeeeeach@reddit
I don’t think people understand just how dire of an issue the lack of snow pack in large parts of the Rockies is.
SavingsDimensions74@reddit
I suspect people that live there are soon to find out.
I recently bought a property in France. One of the criteria was it not be dependent on ice or snowpack melt.
Also with low flood risk.
Guess I’ll get done by wet bulb instead (semi-joking: the 39-42C for weeks on end in August with zero wind was tortuous [and I’ve lived in Egypt and Australia]. And that was with low humidity. We just got hit by heatwave after heatwave).
beardfordshire@reddit
The blooms are already dying off in some of the parks. Scary early.
pacheckyourself@reddit
All the plants are hella confused.
Active-Pudding9855@reddit
Are there people in these areas that don't have access to AC? Poor folks. 😧
Original_Chapter3028@reddit
I'm in San Diego and don't have AC, pretty common for older buildings around here
Active-Pudding9855@reddit
I would literally die I think. I feel it gets too hot when the temperature goes over 25 C in the sun. 🌞
kingfofthepoors@reddit
I basically require a somewhat constant 67 - 70 degrees I can handle 100 degree for short periods of time but I overheat very easy
Napnnovator@reddit
I think this has also happened to me. Last summer the first really hot day my body went haywire. I thought I was dying.
Active-Pudding9855@reddit
69 F sounds good.😆 20.5 C. A 100 F, no way! I would melt. 😧
Gon_777@reddit
I'm the same after my third covid infection a couple of years ago. If I get too hot my body starts malfunctioning really badly. I wake up absolutely freezing but once I move around a little too much I get a hot flash, instant sweats and my blood pressure goes wacky.
Active-Pudding9855@reddit
You had covid three times? Unlucky! 😔
Sea_Ambition_9536@reddit
Not even a window unit? That's typically what we use in New England
Original_Chapter3028@reddit
No, I'm one of those weird people who loves hot weather. And it usually only gets above 80°F a few days of the year. If that's changing though, I may need to get a window unit
smarmy1625@reddit
If you live less than 5 miles to the ocean it usually doesn't get hot enough to need AC.
myshtree@reddit
Is this 32 -37 degrees Celsius? 32 degrees is a nice summer day in Australia.
Blackstar1401@reddit
I just did the conversion. It would be 37.7 Celsius.
Captain_Nugget@reddit
It’s 32°. Why the fuss?!
ndilegid@reddit
No mention of climate change or the up and coming super El Niño.
mudslags@reddit
Didn’t Texas just have 100+ degree heat a week or two ago?
timesuck47@reddit
Ignore texass
michaltee@reddit
Man. I say this a lot lately in this sub but, we are FUCKED.
yinsotheakuma@reddit
(It's because we are fucked.)
ArcticBlaster@reddit
We aren't that far from the Twilight Zone episode The Midnight Sun, but without the twist ending.
refusemouth@reddit
You just made up my mind on what to watch tonight. Was this one of the original Rod Serling episodes? Oh, wait. Is it that one where the woman is stuck in her New York apartment with an elderly neighbor lady while everyone evacuates and drives north to try to get out of the heat? Anyway. I can't remember how it ends.
lucas9204@reddit
Yes. That’s the one.
AlwaysPissedOff59@reddit
FYI Tubi has the entire Twilight Zone series for free, but with ads.
ArcticBlaster@reddit
Yup, original series, episode 75. Half-way through myself, needed a re-watch.
ohsnapattack@reddit
Always been my favorite episode of all time. Now becoming a bit too real as time goes by.
GiraffeExternal803@reddit
That episode always really stuck with me 😭
extinction6@reddit
I'm not going to watch "Planet of the Apes" episodes, we're living it.
SavingsDimensions74@reddit
Gonna watch it myself now!
Repulsive-Theory-477@reddit
Makes me feel like a huge buzzkill pointing out it shouldn’t be this warm in winter in California. Have to trick my brain into enjoying a wonderfully pleasant hot winter day.
RichieLT@reddit
This is totally normal for this time of year :/
nikdia@reddit
Except it's not. It's March. Early March, at that.
Sword-of-Akasha@reddit
Section of the Earth will be rendered uninhabitable soon. The Wet Bulb temperature means our bodies natural way of cooling by sweating fails upon a certain threshold of heat and humidity. Climate refugees will overwhelm already broken and flooded systems. The response of our ruling elite is to simply sacrifice these regions and people.
Estuans@reddit
My parents leave near the Phoenix, and they have said it has been abnormally hot this month. If google is to believe the avg for March should be in the 70s, but looking at the weather, it's pushing 90 already.
disharmony-hellride@reddit
The winter here barely got cool at all. It is going to be 106 next week. Our cool, crisp winter window is so small now. When I first moved to Scottsdale in 2003 our cool season was oct-mid april. Now it's mid November to about now. I have had the a/c on almost every day this winter for at least part of the day.
camoure@reddit
Heatwaves in California, tornadoes in Michigan, rain in Alberta, and it’s fucking March. MARCH! Shit’s weird yo
tfaboo@reddit
We had a tornado warning a year ago in mid February in Tennessee. And the 2020 tornado in Nashville was March 3.
QueefBeefCletus@reddit
Yeah. In Tennessee. Bot different climate than MICHIGAN.
LightBeerOnIce@reddit
Not that unusual for Tn.
camoure@reddit
So it’s a whole ass pattern of weirdness indicating, perhaps, a change in climate… gasp!
253Tacoman@reddit
And 5 feet of snow in the cascades by this weekend (Seattle WA). Def weird yo
IM_NOT_BALD_YET@reddit
This summer is going to get real ugly between actual health concerns, crop failures, and tempers/discontent.
FungusRespecter@reddit
And war
QueefBeefCletus@reddit
I heard something about four horsemen.
pacheckyourself@reddit
What is it good for?
ThadiusCuntright_III@reddit
~~distracting from the Epstein files and ensuring a fascist dictatorship further entrenches itself ~~ ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
jadelink88@reddit
Don't forget those bonus unearned profits for oil barons, they count too.
ThadiusCuntright_III@reddit
Say it again, y'all!
WhitePantherXP@reddit
Had a guy try to fight me in San Diego and apologized after and said sorry man "it's hot out and I've been frustrated" 😂. It was like 86, at a dog event. 90's? bullets might fly...
michaltee@reddit
And fires. Don’t forget about the fires!
Locoman7@reddit
It’s gonna be a hot summer.
Fun_Union9542@reddit
Yeah??!
QueefBeefCletus@reddit
Who's this bozo?
hybridfrost@reddit
Heat warnings is mid-February is insane. I guess it just be:
On repeat for ever
Oc34ne@reddit
What if I said you'll probably just skip to hot summer from now on? Every time I see "hottest year on record" every year, my brain auto completes "so far."
BarknuckleBill@reddit
Each new summer is the coolest summer for the rest of your life
Oc34ne@reddit
I see what you did there.
BarknuckleBill@reddit
I would love to claim it but there is a Simpson meme of it floating around
Arctic_Chilean@reddit
And dry...
...and I am afraid smokey too
SupHowWeDo@reddit
Northern Michigan here, yesterday was seventy five and sunny. This is not normal.
jbond23@reddit
What's the expected wet bulb temperature?
Nathan-Stubblefield@reddit
TV weather never mentions Wet Bulb when they warn about a heat wave, just the “feels like” temperature.
isUKexactlyTsameasUS@reddit
huh...??? 68 78 88???
https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-diego/92101/march-weather/347628
olsollivinginanuworl@reddit
Buy some bags of ice to melt. I used to bike ride with one and dump it on me. And drink some too.
AggravatingMark1367@reddit
Sucking ice is really helpful
Stoplookinatmeswaan@reddit
I’m in Vegas and we’ve got the same heat. It usually doesn’t get this hot till June. I’m terrified.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
I'd say lots of sickness and death. 😕
extinction6@reddit
And all the children that will suffer and die that don't need to if people were smart enough to stop having kids.
Tofuzzle@reddit
The rest of the world reading this: how hot is 90?
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
Man... good thing climate change is only a liberal myth... 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
🤷🙄
hiways@reddit
This summer is going to be hells everywhere. And living in the PNW, I'm dreading the heat and the wildfires coming.
CoderJoe1@reddit
The captioning on the video in the article says the heat should abate by the end of the week of Sept. 2nd...
WTF, is this a warning that summer is coming?
niborddreab@reddit
NYC 77 degrees and sunny. There’s still snow melting from blizzard a few weeks ago.
littlepup26@reddit
I'm in Chicago and we just had a 70 degree yesterday, today was hail and a thunderstorm watch. In early March.
full98LionBRB@reddit
As a Michigander, I envy them
Dazzling_Dig4416@reddit
The Venus Experience
After_Resource5224@reddit
90s!? There's a heat advisory for 90's!!? We eat that for breakfest in a trench coat and shit it out for lunch.
- A Texan
TheJewBakka@reddit
chaotiquefractal@reddit
Here in Quebec, we are expecting 35 ml freezing rain in 12 hours with 40km wind. 5 million people are urged to stay inside and plan for power outages.
Bipogram@reddit
And Vancouver's just had a few cm of snow - today. None at all for the rest of this winter.
An anomalously small amount.
Oops.
jack_porter@reddit
So basically stay inside and plan for eventual re-opening of Vancouver Lolol
TudSpudly@reddit
The chances of Halifax having a white Christmas has gone from 70% in the past to 35% today. Things are changing faster than most people realize.
25272916@reddit
In new Zealand we often get 120-140km winds
chaotiquefractal@reddit
It is actually 70 to 90 km wind. We can get stronger winds here too but why even a 70km wind is bad after a freezing rain storm? All the trees and structures weighted down with the icy rain all break like twigs when the wind picks up, falling on powerlines and rooftops and cars, lots of damage.
RealAd4308@reddit
I looked and it doesn’t seem it’s going to be that hot?
jabrollox@reddit
Temperatures aren't that crazy, it's just happening a couple months earlier than usual. Title of this post seems over the top / fear mongering.
RealAd4308@reddit
Okay it makes more sense! Why would they advise people to stay indoors but i think nowadays they sensationalize a lot. As if breaking heat records is not enough already!
izzidora@reddit
Wtf it's like March 😭 I'm so sorry guys. This is awful
AzulDuo@reddit
Great username, go bills.
Planet is fucked
JA17MVP@reddit (OP)
I just want 1 Superbowl before it all goes to hell.
grimsb@reddit
I'm in a NYC suburb and it hit 80 today. It's not completely unheard of for this time of year, but it's a good 30° above the average high temp, and within a few degrees of the record high.
terrierhead@reddit
Imma fuck off to collapse support now.
No-Leg-3747@reddit
Climate change be like
mcjthrow@reddit
Thanks for the chuckle.
andykekomi@reddit
Damn and in Canada we're gearing up for the worst ice rain storm since '98, wish we could balance both out 😩
GingerTea69@reddit
Damn not even I had "literally this year" on my apocalypse bingo card
ApprenticeWrangler@reddit
We had snow in Vancouver today for the first time this winter
panicswing@reddit
I'm reading this warning of 90+ in OC, while it's currently overcast and 65 right now. Sounds so unimaginable.
DissolveToFade@reddit
The World Cup games are going to be brutal on the players.
August2_8x2@reddit
I've been in tshirts and maybe a hoodie in the mornings and evenings most of this winter. When we moved to this town a few years ago it was actual coats and winter wear with snow almost the whole season... I dont remember seeing any snowplows or "salt" trucks standing by this year
iskin@reddit
Yeah,this winter was pretty warm. So far, I don't think healthy people have much to worry about with this heartache if they can handle summer. It looks like there is still a bit of cool off at night. Kind of like this past fall heatwave. But, summer is gonna be brutal with energy prices skyrocketing.