Dimensity 9500s might be the best chip for creators and gamers who dont have flagship budget
Posted by NecessaryPrinciple63@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 37 comments
Mediatek dimensity 9500s is expected to come out in phones soon and it does look pretty promising... key things that stood out for me -
- Built on TSMC N3E
- X925 ultra core + multiple X4 cores
- Immortalis-G925 GPU with ray tracing
- LPDDR5X + UFS 4.0 support
- strong on-device AI focus
It sits just below the top flagship chips but the architecture looks very close to them. If brands like Xiaomi, realme, or Oppo use it in their performance phones, this could end up being one of the most interesting chips for gaming and heavy multitasking.
Front_Expression_367@reddit
Dimensity 9500s is basically a rebranded 9400+, which is pretty decent and is going to be featured on the Poco X8 Pro Max/Redmi Turbo 5 Max. However, Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 is a stiff competition, and things like emulators are certainly much nicer on the latter.
Legitimate_Throat282@reddit
battery + thermals matter more for most people, and mediatek has been doing well there
Front_Expression_367@reddit
I mean I don't think Snapdragon has been failing on those fronts either, so at most Mediatek is offering similar things to Snapdragon at cheaper price (to OEMs).
ChefRich962@reddit
ngl this is where mediatek is getting scary good. you are getting flagship grade architecture, ray tracing GPU, and strong AI without flagship pricing. for creators and gamers, this means more about sustained performance - and dimensity 9500s chip looks built exactly for that
Proud_Trade63@reddit
from what i’m seeing, dimensity 9500s looks like a smart balance, almost flagship-level performance with better efficiency, making it a really practical choice overall
BudgetOk6050@reddit
yeah, dimensity 9500s shaping up really strong, near flagship performance with better efficiency and pricing could make it a sweet spot for gamers and creators alike
BenchImaginary6241@reddit
after using phones that lag with multitasking, mediatek dimensity 9500s feels like a relief, smoother switching and less frustration daily
BrilliantBarracuda15@reddit
just read about mediatek dimensity 9500 and npu 990, seems like ai stuff should work faster without needing internet all the time
LastChancellor@reddit
isnt D9500s just a D9400?
TheyCallMeSkyFX@reddit
D9500s is worse as it has one less GPU core (MP11 vs MP12) Everyone seems to gloss over that fact. It's a bin of a binned SoC.
Holiday-Feedback-750@reddit
Raw core count isn’t everything, even with mp11, the dimensity 9500s can still deliver better sustained performance if clocks, thermals and optimization are improved over the higher core variant
AjrAlves2021@reddit
GPU performance is still the same and sometimes a little bit better (due to higher GPU clocks) though
spacerays86@reddit
The 9500s is a 9400+ but with a new name.
DoNotWantTobeHere0@reddit
If only these chips are good for emulation.
AddressFit1037@reddit
big bangers for those who don't even know what emulation is with mobile devices
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
Not just 9400, they tend to downgrade features which make soc flagship like Memory speed, modem etc. if you can find 9400 phone would be better all around than 9500S one.
AjrAlves2021@reddit
9500s is a 9400+ with voltage optimizations, 100MHz higher CPU clocks, ~138MHz higher GPU clocks (1750 vs 1612MHz) and one less GPU core (G925 MP11).
Performance should be the same to a tiny bit better than the 9400+ due to the better voltage curve.
Stennan@reddit
Can it emulate PC games and can the open source community create their own drivers?
Eying a new Samsung Tablet and I doubt they will go back to Qualcomm for the Tab S12 line.
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
Emulators like Winlator ludashi give support for missing features like BCN but still Mediatek is bad for high-end Emulation.
slickstar08@reddit
What about Nintendo Switch, NDS/3DS, PS1, PS2 emulation? Would the 9500s have any issues? Or is it another win for Snapdragon? I'm new to understanding this since I'm interested in playing some childhood games on-the-go.
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
Anything up to psp any modern phone can run them.
PS2, and GameCube/Wii they are fine with Mediatek, 3ds is fine with mediatek but run better with Snapdragon.
Switch you need Snapdragon phone, most games wont even boot with Mediatek based soc.
slickstar08@reddit
Thanks so much for the clarification!
Building off of that, I'm currently running a SD6 Gen 1 on my daily driver and a SD 7+ Gen 3 on a tablet, would they in this case be better than the Mediatek 9500s in terms of the PS2/Gamecube/Wii tier of emulation?
Also when you mentioned any modern phone can run up to PSP, would it be considered running "well" as in improved graphics over the native settings of the game? (I saw Duck Station was able to upscale/improve graphics)
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
No up to PS2 D9500 will be better or at least match 7+ gen 3, especially when upscaling, SD 6 gen 1 don't have full turnip support so it's not that good for emulation, 7+ gen 3 should be good.
Even low-end devices can run ps1 at X5 resolution (1080P), D9500 should easily run those games at 4K or more.
Essteethree@reddit
Bad how? Are you able to elaborate?
Lord_Muddbutter@reddit
Aw yeah the heaviest of multi tasking. Got to make sure that swap from Camera to Message to Contacts is just seamless
NecessaryPrinciple63@reddit (OP)
dimensity 9500 left behind apple a18 chip in benchmarks... i think its about time we stop picking bias
isekai_cheese@reddit
cant touch apple's performance per watt though. unmatched efficiency.
land_deprecation@reddit
What exactly does the average user do on their phone thats limited by multiple threads? Like what heavy multitasking? Gaming is also single thread limited most of the time. Additionally, all those cores are gonna be a nightmare for the android scheduler to effectively use, thats gonna be alot of overhead. Man Dimensity is making the same mistakes as Samsung back in 2018...
Kryohi@reddit
Android and the most commonly used apps there have been very effectively using many cores since at least 10 years ago, probably more. That's why some very old SoCs already had ridiculous number of cores (e.g. 10) already back in the day
szank@reddit
Are people doing cfd simulations on their phones or am I missing something?
busdriver69_@reddit
The per core performance is very different from desktops and laptops. 10years ago laptop core it's were dual core will android was still 8 core they are very different cores to each other
Kryohi@reddit
Chrome alone can fully use say 4 threads while loading a heavy website, and here we're talking about 2 to 4 big cores, not 16. Small/mid cores will be relegated to background tasks by the OS.
nidorancxo@reddit
The Android HMP scheduler is actually very elegantly made and is quite agnostic to core architecture. It literally just allocates tasks based on the power curves of the different cores, so it would theoretically be able to handle well even 10 completely different cores in one CPU.
beneficiarioinss@reddit
If you made the same post about snapdragon 8 gen 5 it would still have the same points but would probably get upvoted because branding is strong here
NecessaryPrinciple63@reddit (OP)
thats why i care more about the truth and not upvotes :)
iZiilch@reddit
snapdragon 8 gen 5 is N3P .
Ok-Affect-1406@reddit
at least i can get steady 120+fps gaming with dimensity 9500s MAGT 3.0...