RTX 4070 vs RX 9070
Posted by Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Hello,
I'm currently building my gaming pc (only gaming). I have a rysen 7 7700 and 16g ram. I currently have an offer for a RTX 4070 and 2 year warrenty for 400 euros (im in Europe), and a rx 9070 for 540. I saw some benchmark and there is a difference between 10 to 20 fps for the rx 9070. Is it worth to buy the RX for this price or the RTX ? I play on a 2K monitor.
If you have any recommandations other than those GPU i'm open to it.
I will continue to play at 2K resolution, maybe 3440*1440. I dont really play competitive games so what i'm looking for, is to play at high resolution in good conditions for single player games (only multiplayer games i play is Hunt Showdown and Space Marine 2).
There are other topics i have read regarding power comparison, but here I am thinking in terms of price and long-term use.
Tks a lot for your time and advices
ankit_saiyan@reddit
12 GB of VRAM vs 16 GB... This is something that never gets better. If you are going to play at 2k/4k then don't even think much just get 9070... It runs cooler and can undervolt with 99% stock performance and even less power consumption. Scale better with AMD systems too. Missing out on FSR4 is a big disadvantage in my opinion.
Key_Article_3065@reddit
Get the 9070 , the 12gb VRAM on rtx 4070 won't last long , games are already consuming more on high settings , also if you want to use Ray tracing , 12gb isn't sufficient
Primus_is_OK_I_guess@reddit
They are both great options, so I don't think you would be disappointed with either, but at those prices, the 4070 is the better value.
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
tks for your advice, the time i spend to make my choice, both options have been sold. But if i see again a RTX 4070 for 400 euros with a warranty i will go to it
Primus_is_OK_I_guess@reddit
Good luck! What does a 5070 go for there, out of curiosity?
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
Dont know if my comment was alloud by Reddit, I chose a 4070 Super for 450. Currently, the best offer for a 5070 is 600 with RE Requiem included. Of course, it's new technology, but it works pretty much the same as the 4070 Super. I don't know if it's the right choice, the 5070 has a 3-year warranty and a fresh new game offer, this 4070 Super only has 1 year.
Primus_is_OK_I_guess@reddit
Nice! The 4070 super is a great choice.
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VadimDash1337@reddit
Half a year ago I'd suggest a 9070, IF it was cheaper
AMD had shown an incredible lack of support on their GPUs. My 7800xt still isn't getting FSR4 (even though it should) and I think that sets a precedent for future GPUs to miss out on easily implementable features, like a 9070 not getting FSR5 because AMD will want to sell you their new thing. So I recommend you get a 4070, it's cheaper, and in your case will honestly be great in terms of longevity.
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
I just bought a 4070 super for 450 euros, i'm just waiting 1 day hoping the seller will not cancel
windowpuncher@reddit
https://www.techspot.com/article/3040-amd-fsr4-upscaling-older-radeon-gpu/
https://www.guru3d.com/story/enabling-fsr-4-upscaling-on-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-using-mesa-driver-looks-better-but-not/
You can install FSR4 manually on the 7900 XTX cards. Maybe on the 7800's?
It's not supported because it runs worse than 3 on anything not 9000 series.
VadimDash1337@reddit
That's the issue. It CAN run fsr4, but AMD doesn't want to properly implement it. People have shown it again and again to work on rdna3 but amd refuses to act at all while Nvidia have 20 series dlss 4.5, even if it doesn't work as well as on newer cards - the choice for the consumer is still present
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
Hello, realy nice of you for answering, i'm also considering the rx 7800Xt cause i often see it around 380 euros, but the lack of FSR4 is craying me. Does is enough powerfull for 1400 gaming ? Also It consummes lot more power than the rtx 4070, do you currently have an undervolting setting ?
KFC_Junior@reddit
no. just get the 4070, buying any rdna 3 card now when theres alternatives is incredibly stupid
VadimDash1337@reddit
I recommend not getting a 7800xt because you have a much safer option for the same price.
I bought mine two years ago used for ~20.000 UAH which is 393 euro. It is an amazing card and handles things well, but AMD's unwillingness to add new features to it is a VERY big red flag for longetivity. I normally play 1080p 144fps with no upscalers and have zero issues. It is marketed as a 1440p card and 16gb of vram is more than capable of handling anything non-rt (and rt if you're willing to adjust settings) thrown at it.
Solely because you'll miss FSR4 and probably other newer features I recommend a skip. My 2060 can use dlss4 and i got that card six years ago before upgrading. Shows a lot which manufacturer is currently more favorable for the consumer
Kamishini_No_Yari_@reddit
Don't listen to the parrots. I have a 4070 and never had any issues with VRAM on any recent AAA game. The software side is incredibly better than anything AMD can attempt to catch-up on. AMD is always on the back foot on everything GPU related.
Others claiming that games use over 12gb don't realise how badly games are programmed and some games will eat up any available resources. It doesn't automatically mean that the game breaks because their GPU uses more. It's a very dumb conclusion to come to and it's very obvious they have no idea what they're talking about.
Remember when every cpu was a bottleneck? VRAM is the current boogeyman to these ignorant parrots.
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
I'm pretty agree with you, the much VRAM you have the much the computer will use. It took me too long to decide to get the 4070 so it has been sold, i just buy a 4070 super for 450 and 1 year warranty, i hope the seller will not cancel it
HESCphoto@reddit
So... you're considering a card for 400 and one for 550ish... what other options do you have in your upper price range?
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
Between 400 et 500, i could have a rtx 4070 Super but maybe with no warranty, rx 9060 xt or rtx 5060ti
SieqwardZwiebelbrudi@reddit
ngl, those 12gb are a limiting factor already for the 4070.
playing requiem was all about managing vram
SAHD292929@reddit
Games will adjust to your system. Like for example your GPU only has 8gb games will still run but with less detail.
SieqwardZwiebelbrudi@reddit
nice
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
Hum, im a bit disagree. I currently play with a rtx 3060ti laptop, it can handle everything, just not in high resolution or at high framerate in 2k
MrToxicTaco@reddit
Source? At 1440p that is just false info. There are like 3 games that will use more than 12GB, and RE is not one. TechPowerUp reported 10.5GB usage max.
SieqwardZwiebelbrudi@reddit
1440p path tracing will in some scenes use more than 12GB and absolutely tank performance
MrToxicTaco@reddit
Yes if you are using path tracing, I said that. But it’s not like the 9070 is going to handle that any better. It’s rough on every card but the 5090.
SieqwardZwiebelbrudi@reddit
> Yes if you are using path tracing, I said that.
you didn't though and you even got your facts wrong. playing CP2077 with PT on a 4070 is a far better experience, compared to Requiem and this is just going to get worse.
You definitely have a point with 9070 still being a bit behing for RT in general, but honestly VRAM issues for the 4070 are getting worse with every new AAA Title
BestSmile1907@reddit
Can 4070 run your games fine? Then go for it because it's cheaper. Don't try to future-proof your build. Does the 2 year warranty work exactly as if you had bought it from any other shop or does it come with extra limitations? That's the only thing i'd factor in this decision. Discard older gen, even in those price ranges.
Whole-Buffalo6129@reddit (OP)
Tks for your comment, what do you mean about " old generation "? Before the 5000 ? Or everything before 4000 ? For the warranty, its a legal european one by PNY so its very good for a second hand GPU. I think the 4070 can handle everything, im just confuse about the difference with the super model, cause everyone is talkinh about it on the net and not the 4070 classic
RedLimes@reddit
It's 35% more money for like 25% more performance, 4GB more VRAM, but you lose Nvidia feature support which is hard to put a number on.
Hard to pick because they are in different performance tiers. I have a 9070 at 3440x1440p and I'm pretty happy with, couldn't imagine knocking off 20% performance though since ultra wide already costs like 15% performance compared to regular 1440p
whiskey8888@reddit
It's a great price for 540. I got mine for 630 xfx white edition,can't be happier paired with ryzen 7800x3d.
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MEIZOMEGA@reddit
if you know you are considering 3440 x 1440 i’d definitely say the 9070 for its 16gb of vram.
i have a 34 inch 3440 x 1440 monitor(with 9070xt) and i play a small group of games, like since i’ve built my pc a few months ago it’s only been cyberpunk, pubg, warthunder and battlefield 6 but i see 12-15gb of VRAM usage in pubg and cyberpunk(think battlefield is close at like 10/11gb). so i can imagine other games probably being about the same, especially more single player titles but that’s just an assumption based on what i’ve seen myself
EdoTheOnlyOne@reddit
The 4070 is fine enough