NVIDIA reportedly brings GeForce RTX 3060 back to Samsung 8nm production
Posted by InsaneSnow45@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 58 comments
Posted by InsaneSnow45@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 58 comments
trmetroidmaniac@reddit
Surprising if true ever since the DRAM crisis. Maybe it'll be the gimped 8GB model?
Darrelc@reddit
It'll be 16GB* don't worry
*Interpolated
jocnews@reddit
Well, they already used "effective bandwith" numbers for memory bandwidth in the past, perhaps their next cheeky move will be "effective memory capacity" because muh DLSS upscaling magic.
Now that I wrote it, I'm afraid they will and it will work on the buyers. RIP.
Darrelc@reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1sc9hmj/nvidia_shows_neural_texture_compression_cutting/
Didn't take long lmaoooooooooo
Darrelc@reddit
We can have a sad laugh together in six month
jenny_905@reddit
I don't think so, that went out of stock while the 12GB was still available.
I think that 8GB model was very limited run to use up some defective dies because it seemed to disappear fast, RTX 3060 12GB models were still available from distributors until last year so it was assumed they just kept production going due to the demand.
Little_Obligation_90@reddit
They can use full fat 192bit dies and make a 6GB model. IE the 12GB model except half size memory chips.
zakats@reddit
Why would Nvidia just leave money on the table and make their newer offering lookbad from having less available vram?
Little_Obligation_90@reddit
BOM cost of 1GB vs 2GB ram chips. Back when the 3060 was released they considered a 6GB version.
zakats@reddit
There's nothing stopping them from making an 8gb version.
jenny_905@reddit
Yeah they could.
That is actually an interesting possibility, just wondering if leas desirable 1GB modules are easier to source right now than 2GB.
Strazdas1@reddit
Noone is manufacturing 1GB GDDR chips anymore, though.
jocnews@reddit
RTX 3060 used slower GDDR6 speeds, It's possible that this will enable them to make cards from pool of chips that were not suitable for currently produced newer GPUs, so it would be helpful, although the architecture is 5-6 years old and performance is obviously low for today.
goldcakes@reddit
Turing has been a very forward-looking architecture. It’s actually not that outdated, and has lots of stuff RDNA3 doesn’t have.
jenny_905@reddit
It's really not far off an RTX 5050 in raw performance, obviously it supports a lot less features though.
Little_Obligation_90@reddit
6GB model.
Logical-Database4510@reddit
This is my guess too. It'll be the 8GB model much to everyone's chagrin at this point.
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Is the 3060 the GTX 1080Ti of the 2020's?
digital_n01se_@reddit
is the 1060 6 GB
Yearlaren@reddit
The 1060 used a lot less power (170W vs 120W)
tmchn@reddit
Given the current situation, this is great news
The 3060 is already so popular that it could become a minimum standard for devs to target
It's still a great card for 1080p and with dlss it can handle 1440p
Caffdy@reddit
I mean, the 3060 is equivalent to a 2070S, which is equivalent to a PS5. Pretty good target for game devs if you ask me
Ok-Equipment-9966@reddit
That’s not really how it works, like at all. A PC containing a 3060 had a completely different architecture than a PS5.
JGCoolfella@reddit
still have a 12 gb 3060 lying around, did not expect it to be this relevant in 2026
DshadoW10@reddit
This could be excellent news if the price is right.
samsung's 8nm maturity must be off the charts, and I reckon nvidia can get a hefty discount on them as well.
R&D costs are already out of the picture. Nvidia could sell this even at 150 at still make a profit.
They won't though.
Sevastous-of-Caria@reddit
Tsmc cutting edge nodes too expensive. Gddr7 too expensive.
Amazon front page's favorite will dominate the 2020s start to its end lol
N2-Ainz@reddit
We definitely will get Samsung as the foundry for the 6000 series
TSMC is highly limited and as long as these companies keep buying a lot of data-center stuff, the already limited capacity that TSMC holds will become even more limited. NVIDIA loves to sell gaming GPU's and data-centre GPU's but that simply won't be possible with TSMC. Samsung also has nice improvements with their latest tech and Exynos 2600 is actually a nice chip this time so it is very likely that they will move their gaming division towards Samsung
Also one of the reasons why the 3000 series in general was cheaper because Samsung charges less than TSMC because the best clients always go to TSMC
wiredbombshell@reddit
Absolutely not. Samsung has worse yields and objectively less advanced and worse process nodes. Their competitor is going to use TSMC on the most advanced process nodes available and has a pattern of having slam dunk generations when accompanied by console generations. Nvidia is a petty company and will never give up even a .1% of ground to Radeon or Instinct. They will use TSMC and if I’m wrong I’ll eat my shorts.
N2-Ainz@reddit
Samsung's 2nm reportedly achieves 60% and TSMC at the moment achieves 70%
Also what you shouldn't forget is that TSMC does charge a lot because they know their companys position while Samsung gives great deals because they have trouble finding huge customers.
E.g. the 3070 was better than the 6700 series while the 30 series was fabbed with Samsung instead of TSMC. It also won't be helpful when to AMD when NVIDIA has to pay less for their production than what AMD would pay at TSMC.
AMD is already fucking over their customers with the lack of FSR4 support for RDNA2/3 and FSR Redstone being a huge let down while third-party modders make FSR4 for Vulkan possible. I personally own a 9070 XT but I'll definitely get a NVIDIA card after how AMD treated their older and even newer customers.
They would need to do a lot in the next 1-2 years to make their customers keep with AMD but NVIDIA getting competitive pricing + their good software support would easily make up even for the option that AMD would have slightly better raster than NVIDIA even though I don't believe that
Different_Lab_813@reddit
We don't know the size of chips foundries report yields so these numbers aren't comparable.
III-V@reddit
Yields don't matter if the pricee is right and there's sufficient wafer volume to make up for the lower yields. That's how things were when TSMC was struggling with 40nm - AMD got lots of crappy wafers at a steep discount.
Strazdas1@reddit
Nvidia very rarely use most advanced nodes.
M4rshmall0wMan@reddit
Geez, I hope not. TSMC 2nm could’ve given us a 40-level performance jump.
EnglishBrekkie_1604@reddit
Yeah and another 40-level price jump too lmao.
KaptainSaki@reddit
Sadly all the nodes are reserved for Nvidia AI Slop Accelerators™
Different_Lab_813@reddit
Who is TSMC manufacturing chips for at recent 2N node?
M4rshmall0wMan@reddit
Yeah, N2 will not be cheap :(
venfare64@reddit
Even TSMC N3P would give decent step up ppa from TSMC N4.
SirMaster@reddit
Why not Intel 18A?
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
Kinda seems like they might go to Intel, seeing as they'll already be fabbing graphics tiles for Intel's mobile lineup at Intel in a few years anyway
Exist50@reddit
I don't think they've confirmed where those tiles will be fabbed.
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
I believe that's correct, it's speculation ATM.
EndlessZone123@reddit
It's got plenty of VRAM to never have it be an issue and enough power to play any game at 1080p. I'm surprised that this is the chip to be brought back rather than 3060ti which has less VRAM. But maybe there is excess of some older chips?
hackenclaw@reddit
yeah, it doesnt make sense, 3060 is slower and it doesnt replace 5060.
The 3060Ti/3070 uses slower 256bit 14gbps GDDR6.
if Nvidia use 2Gb chips, 6 of them at 12GB 192bit 18gbps will still be about equal bandwidth vs 256bit 14gbps GDDR6. Using those 3060Ti/3070 can easily replaces 5050/5060, freeing up GDDR7 for higher end model.
reddit_equals_censor@reddit
nvidia could actually have done a less evil thing and bought back the ga104 die (3070/ti for example) and put the fastest gddr6 or gddr6x, that they can still get rightnow. (if gddr6x may not be gettable anymore, then just gddr6 of course) AND
put 16 GB vram on it.
so sth between a 3070/ti (between in case it gets more cores enabled, but no gddr6x bandwidth)
and enough vram to be ok for rightnow and of course dirt cheap, because the shity samsung node is dirt cheap.
but a working amount of vram for the public? nah that's not the nvidia way. PAY UP PLEB! and eat your 12 GB only old af generation slop instead.
kwirky88@reddit
Are they going to fix the 3000 series drivers bugs gamers nexus replicated?
yyytobyyy@reddit
3060 12GB is very similar in relative performance to 1080Ti.
Which makes 1080Ti still relevant. Insane.
Gooniesred@reddit
Lossless scaling will be required 😅😅😅
ActOfThrowingAway@reddit
People buying budget/entry level GPUs are not targetting anything beyond 1080p.
Own_Mix_3755@reddit
In the end it might be a big win for lots of with 30XX series or 40XX series cards. This means they will support those possibly for longer period and (hopefully) try to backport as many new software possibilities to it too.
TheBraveGallade@reddit
Of note, these are the same node as switch 2, so samsung, nvidia, and nintendo all stand to benefit from this.
jocnews@reddit
Not Nintendo, but the other two, sure.
At least it's beneficial that Samsung foundry has orders and cashflow. Nvidia is fat and arrogant enough already vOv.
TrantaLocked@reddit
The Return of the King
jenny_905@reddit
3060 12GB has been in stock for the entirety of the 40 series and 50 series, no interruptions.
Assumption was either Samsung were still making it (most likely) or they produced a giant stockpile of dies but it has always been available from distributors and still sells pretty well.
PhantomWolf83@reddit
I mean, I might pick one up if it's the 12GB model and the price is right. I already have a 5060 Ti 16GB (bought at MSRP before the prices went crazy) and I want a larger VRAM pool to run more local LLMs. I could buy another 5060 Ti, but in my country those now cost a freaking US$800. From the benchmarks I've seen, running a 5060 Ti + 3060 is only about 20% slower than twin 5060 Tis and 28GB is still pretty good.
tukatu0@reddit
It never left in the first place. A switch 2 is just a 3060 split in half. Maybe shipments to aibs are restarting.
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