Asus launches Panther Lake-powered NUC 16 Pro mini PC with 128GB RAM support
Posted by 1FNn4@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 33 comments
Posted by 1FNn4@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 33 comments
Rufusthe13thapostol@reddit
Any experience of quality of components and support for Asus over GMK? : https://www.gmktec.com/products/intel-core-ultra-x7-358h-x9-388h-evo-t2-ai-mini-pc?srsltid=AfmBOooKKWoUDoU5vH-yeMD9xacd1CTMiRq6J67QKMI-UtBIIqzGWelS
Hour_Firefighter_707@reddit
The 128GB is only for the Ultra 7 356 and Ultra 5 325. The X9 and X7 versions with the B390 can only be configured with up to 96GB of LPDDR5X 9600.
One thing that really irks me about these non-Apple mini PCs is that they very conveniently miss out on mentioning that their external power supplies are generally about the same size as the PC itself. Kinda disingenuous in my mind. Only the Mac mini has an internal 150W power supply and is truly mini. Just goes to show how much either lower their costs are, how little the profit margin might be on the $600 base model, or simply just how much better their engineering is. Probably a mixture of all three
Fit-Produce420@reddit
The Framework desktop has a built in PSU.
Dontdoitagain69@reddit
Huh, I’ve had tons of mini pcs and most had tiny wall adapters
Shadow647@reddit
At least some of those mini PC's can be powered through USB-C with a relatively compact GaN bricks, but yeah, internal is still a much better way to go.
YourVelourFog@reddit
Why spend $8 on a PSU brick that has GaN when you can spend $3 and pocket the rest? Most companies don't give a shit about ascetics if it's something that's hiding under your desk and they can save a few bucks.
Shadow647@reddit
Where you can get a $3 USB-C power supply that has real CE and UL certifications?
Cheapest ones that I have bought myself were €3 20W SJOSS chargers from IKEA, but that's nowhere near enough to run a mini-PC. 65W SJOSS is €12, and that's the cheapest 65W power supply that I would risk plugging into mains at my own home.
YourVelourFog@reddit
Never suggested a USB-C PSU, I was thinking of those ugly PSU units that come with a mini PC where the unit was as large as the computer itself.
Here's a 65W PSU from China's Taobao that's listed for 21.9 RMB or about $3.20 USD.
why_are_you_rannin@reddit
it is true but not completely true
gan adapters usually have more than 1 usb socket and more than 1 power mode
gan adapters renegotiate power levels when more supply required or when consumers get connected/disconnected
cpu (+igpu) may require more or less power, depending on tasks running, lets say browsing and gaming require different levels of power
when i powered my minipc with usb-c gan adapter and launched a game - minipc switched off, because there was power loss for a 1 second (or less), caused by negotiations, but it was working stable while i was just browsing interwebs
so, in theory - yes, you could power a minipc with gan adapter, but in real world - you need a stable power source without this "switching" logic
Shadow647@reddit
I am powering my N355 NUC with €12 65W GaN brick from IKEA without any of those issues :-) but depends on the brick, indeed, I guess
the__storm@reddit
I do appreciate the flexibility to run off a battery (without running the power through an inverter and then back through the internal rectifier) if I need to. Would definitely be nice if they shipped with GaN bricks though.
Confident_Casanova@reddit
Many Chinese ones are really compact with type c chargers
atape_1@reddit
Does the B390 have access to all or at least most of the system RAM? Will these be good LLM inference machines?
Hour_Firefighter_707@reddit
It can, but the memory bandwidth isn't very high and the GPU itself is also pretty slow so it wouldn't do amazing
Hytht@reddit
The GPU has almost twice the INT8 AI TOPs of Strix halo 8060s or about as much as a RX 7900 XTX.
duidui232323@reddit
Yes but even with LPDDR5X or LPCAMM2, the bandwidht is about half of 8060s
Hytht@reddit
You're almost repeating what the previous comment said. Also it's more than half due to faster RAM and panther lake uses memory side compression for more effective bandwidth st the same RAM speed.
duidui232323@reddit
It still sucks
Hytht@reddit
Wider memory bus comes at it's own cost, it's just going to be more expensive.
duidui232323@reddit
No shit
jenny_905@reddit
This doesn't have the B390.
The B390 equipped models need to use LPCAMM or soldered RAM, as far as I know.
kyleleblanc@reddit
Cool I guess but I’ll stick to Apple Silicon.
iJeff@reddit
There's nothing like Proxmox for those atm, is there?
kyleleblanc@reddit
No idea. I don’t use Proxmox.
Le_Olmos@reddit
I was actually waiting for this NUC Panther Lake release as upgrade for my home lab!
Jolly_Equivalent6918@reddit
Same but at $1000 barebones? Probably need to wait longer
cscholl20@reddit
$1000 for a barebones, non-flagship is bonkers
BartBM@reddit
If you go to the specs sheet it says '2xHDMI or 2xDP' .. They are selling 2 different configurations? I need DisplayPort 2.1 for my G9 57. Also curious about the fan noise!
alabasterskim@reddit
Yikes.
Quatro_Leches@reddit
PC vendors selling hardware with no RAM be like
Appropriate_Ad8734@reddit
asus does it too. they do it in taiwan, and yes, i’m referring to these mini pc models as well, and prices are often worse than what they sell internationally…
1FNn4@reddit (OP)
Barebone kit is not new for nucs. But I understand what you mean.
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