[Accessories] HELIOS-T Thermal Overlay System $689.99 No code needed
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We’ve been developing a compact thermal overlay system designed to integrate with common night-vision platforms like the PVS-14, RNVG, BNVD, and other dovetail housings. The goal was simple: provide the functional advantages of a thermal overlay in a lightweight, practical package without the price barrier of systems like ECOTI.
The result is the HELIOS-T (Helios Thermal Overlay System).
Before getting into the details, one thing needs to be clear because it will likely come up:
This is not a BCOTI clone or rip-off.
BCOTI is a great open-source project and deserves credit for helping prove what is possible with accessible components. However, the HELIOS-T is a ground-up hardware and firmware design intended to be a complete, field-ready product, not a DIY electronics project.
Yes — the HELIOS-T uses the same thermal camera module and Micro-OLED display used in BCOTI builds. Those components are commercially available and widely used in the thermal hobbyist community.
Everything else is our own design, including:
• Custom integrated PCB architecture
• Non-open-source firmware developed specifically for this system
• Simplified single-button user interface
• Quick-release mounting interface for rapid install/removal
• One-time image alignment process (no constant fiddling with overlays)
• Integrated connectors and internal layout designed for durability
BCOTI is awesome if you want to build something yourself. But realistically, building one requires:
• Micro-soldering skills
• Embedded electronics knowledge
• Firmware configuration
• Access to tools and test equipment
• 3D printing capability
• A fair amount of time troubleshooting and tuning
For many people that’s part of the fun.
For others, it’s not practical.
HELIOS-T exists for users who want a ready-to-run thermal overlay system without having to build and debug it themselves.
Key highlights:
• 256 thermal core for reliable heat detection
• 1280×800 Micro-OLED overlay display
• Approx. 85g total system weight
• 30% smaller than early prototypes
• USB-C powered
• White Hot / Black Hot / Outline / Fusion modes
• Single 5-position control button
• Quick-detach mounting system
• Simple one-time IIT alignment
The unit injects thermal data directly into the night-vision optical path, giving users improved detection capability in low-light, obscured, or complex environments.
The focus of the design has been:
• Reliability
• Simplicity of use
• Compact size
• Practical field operation
This project is still evolving and we’ll share more development details as things progress.
If you enjoy building electronics and experimenting with firmware, BCOTI remains an awesome project and we absolutely encourage that community.
If you want a fully integrated system designed to just work, that’s where HELIOS-T comes in.
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ChillyAleman@reddit
Will this fit on a tanto?
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Yes
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7echa@reddit
So you're offering zero to no improvements over the already open source BCOTI, which is $450 for the kit itself, or can be found assembled for $600?
This is just a continuation of the SCOTI debacle.
phanomstrikegamer@reddit
Btw for anyone looking at this its a straight rip off clone of B-coti open source project
as linked below
https://github.com/Jacob-OTW/BCOTI
you can make your own or find one for sale cheaper
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You are wrong. Thanks though.
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Impressive_Meet_1168@reddit
I would buy if printed with PPA-CF.
Will not buy printed with PETG-CF.
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
I hope it's clear to them that there's a market for higher quality stuff, but having something available for the poors is also great
grimduck17@reddit
Unless they had an unconditional warrant on the printed parts I wouldn’t settle for FDM. They can have these mjf printed which would be far superior
Standard-Ad2669@reddit
Is this MJF printed?
Standard-Ad2669@reddit
Also what made you go with PETG-CF?
PutridDropBear@reddit
400% cost difference for raw material.
JohnnyBoy11@reddit
But how much raw material is being used? I mean, are we talking like 400% of $10 or 400% of $100?
paint3all@reddit
What is the range for detection?
I assume the shaky image is an artifact of the camera you're recording with and appears more stable in use?
Will you offer this with higher quality 3D printed material in the future?
memearms@reddit
First, awesome product video. Second, how does this compare in cost to building a BCOTI?
DragonfruitSucks87@reddit
I put together a quick estimate and its looking like $330ish. That doesn't include filament, 3d printer if you don't have it, etc
I feel like $690 is a decent price here. You get something guaranteed to work, and you don't have to have the skills and knowledge to create the BCOTI. I accidentally broke my OLED working on a similar project so that added another $100 to that project cost real quick lol
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
Be sure to include another $150 in tariffs.
Ok-Mycologist-4039@reddit
No one ordering from Aliexpress is paying tariffs. You probably are though as a large importer.
That being said, the build kit including everything for the BCOTI is $450 shipped and assembly is another $150 so youre not far off. The down side is that yours is not open source, meaning failed components cant be repaired by the user. I appreciate what you're going for here but unless you're offering something over the BCOTI it's a bit pricey.
Does it offer any waterproofing or anything? Is there a menu internal to the system rather than the wifi site on the BCOTI?
These are things that would justify it for me. Without even offering the printable files or a lifetime warranty you're asking for a cracked housing.
All of the night vision housing manufacturers are offering that at the minimum.
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
There is no wifi on this unit, thats nonsense imo for everyday use. This is purely electromechanical for modes etc. We have a user manual i can share that may help explain the usage.
You are paying for tariffs, shipping on single units is 150 ea. You might not be paying the tariff directly, but they aren't eating that for free.
Ok-Mycologist-4039@reddit
Id be interested in seeing the interface. You guys have a video of it? Or the manual would be cool.
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
Send me an email at sales@wtcarms.com and I'll send it to you. Still working on better photos/videos. Marketing isnt our strong suit.
Ok-Mycologist-4039@reddit
Just add it as a download to the product page. Why treat it like IP? Just make a video if you want people to spend an extra $100 on an item they won't be able to repair themselves like a BCOTI
PutridDropBear@reddit
Why not throw it up here -- since you're advertising
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
Considering if you are a first timer, and you attempted acquire on your own, as well as depending on how many tools you already have; you will be already over our list price.
Not to mention time for assembly etc.
We are basically breaking even but are willing to for the community.
DragonfruitSucks87@reddit
What filament are you using for the housing?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
PETG-CF
DragonfruitSucks87@reddit
Oof. Would have liked to see PA6 or something like PPA-CF (even if you had to bump up price for material costs). Any warranty on the housing or would you be willing to provide STLs in the event it broke?
PETG sketches me out a bit because it’s fairly brittle so if this takes an impact it’s probably going to snap.
Could even offer a variety of options for housings 👀👀
LinechargeII@reddit
farther down they said "We will support and guarantee any reasonable wear and tear, including faulty components" but if it's as brittle as you say, along with the comment below yours saying it naturally weakens over time, then that's not very confidence inspiring.
racistpuffs@reddit
Agreed, PPA-CF would be a solid upgrade
RegardedDipshit@reddit
It also absorbs moisture out of the air and weakens over time.
Sonoflopez@reddit
For something this expensive, and assuming you can swing the (substantial) cost, formlabs with their new resin that’s as strong as injection molding could be a cool material for this. Awesome job on this. Serious product development.
NewbRedditer@reddit
Whats the detection distance on these? At what point can you start discerning what the thermal blob is?
NewbRedditer@reddit
Also, why is the video of the dog so shaky, like the thermal is moving separetly of the pvs?
Knee_High_Cat_Beef@reddit
I too have used NV to watch my dog take a shit, but now zi can see it using thermal too?
JKBRM0242@reddit
Is the mount compatible with DTNVS?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
We are working with some customers on mounts for all models. It is not yet, but by the time your unit will be ready to ship it will be. Purchasing only speeds that process up since we have a reason to adjust the current mount.
hewhoovercomes@reddit
Honestly this seems like a solid deal. Would love to see some reviews of these
grahampositive@reddit
The night vision sub has pretty mixed opinions about it. I don't have a horse in this race
https://www.reddit.com/r/NightVision/s/eWJS9jmcYp
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
A lot of people see this and think it's a 1:1 copy of the BCOTI. It's not.
I understand the hesitation, but it is very different internally/electrically/software then the BCOTI
grimduck17@reddit
What’s the warranty
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
We will support and guarantee any reasonable wear and tear, including faulty components etc. If you drop it from a plane probably not.
These claims should be very minimal as we test each unit before shipping.
merc08@reddit
Is there a non-warranty (ie paid) option for replacement parts if we do crack or break something?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
We would be happy to work out an at cost replacement depending on the situation. We've attempted to make it as cheap as possible to make as we don't have hardly any margin in the first place, while also retaining quality and durability.
Ie if your screen becomes faulty, we replace the screen at cost etc.
radaleno@reddit
I also enjoy the product video. Is that thermal overlay shaking as bad as I perceived watching the video? What’s causing the shaking
Beerbeard123@reddit
Was wondering that too
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
My hand in 10 degree weather, wasn't mounted to helmet.
followupquestion@reddit
I’m ordering hoping the answer is positive. Does this play nicely with green NVG and not WP?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
Yes!
followupquestion@reddit
Yay! My wife is going to kill me in my sleep…
But it would have to be in my sleep because otherwise I’d see her coming a mile away with fusion vision.
GooseMcGooseFace@reddit
The thermal video of a dog taking a shit caught me off guard.
1378CRC@reddit
What’s the runtime average on a full charge?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
Currently usbc powered, for use with small pack on back of helmet.
Fat-Necrosis@reddit
Looks pretty sweet. Is there any kind of warranty?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
We will support and guarantee any reasonable wear and tear, including faulty components etc. If you drop it from a plane probably not.
These claims should be very minimal as we test each unit before shipping.
Bambinorino@reddit
this would go great on my PVS-14!
IF I HAD ONE
Psychological-Drive4@reddit
Can you make a version to go in front of a scope?
WTC-ARMS@reddit (OP)
It is on our agenda, if you buy one of these and support the mission! ;)
Psychological-Drive4@reddit
👌🏻
sonofsandhill@reddit
This work with a 14?
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