LOL it actually is really weird that people tend to only use tin containers for sewing stuff. like they'll dissolve if stored in some other material. maybe they used to always come in tin? but like... i don't know that. and i bet you would use some tin container if i was making a sewing kit. people are weird lol

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iamunableto@reddit

it’s because it’s wide enough to fit larger sewing items like fabric scissors or the pin cushions, while also being big enough that you can mostly see all your supplies at once without having to take them out and sort them. those tins are also super easy to get in general as they’re everywhere during the holidays. at least that’s my theory

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jmonster097@reddit

well . it's a good theory, in light of the fact that i have zero others that are any better! hahahaha

you may be on to something. and no pin-punctures or scissor-poked holes. nice size. makes great ASMR when you're digging for something. I'm in. my next sewing kit (that i will never be able to find despite my swearing to myself that i JUST SAW IT THE OTHER DAY whilst looking for something else, ORA that i have had the same thought about like seven other places since i started looking two hours ago. then I'll give up, and talk someone into helping me and just doing it on barter. then, in another 13-15 months, I'll lose a button. and this process will repeat itself, into eternity. or at least the part of it that i am on earth and need a sewing kit for something lol.

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iamunableto@reddit

you should try a tool box!! they’re wonderful storage honestly, i’m considering getting one for my art supplies

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Aerycks2010@reddit

Absolutely! There are some products I buy over others specifically because they are in a tin rather than plastic or even cardboard.

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turdferguson3891@reddit

Doesn't have to be it just usually is. I very much grew up in a culture of using jam and jelly jars as glasses and reusing containers and stuffing bags in bags. We weren't poor but my granparents grew up that way and it just got passed down.

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RufusTheDeer@reddit

Same here. My family was poor and did those things because they had to. I now do them because I know how to and I like not being as wasteful.

jaker9319@reddit

Also, a lot of "Southern" stuff applies to the Midwest and/or rural areas in general. "Insert Place Hospitality", "slower pace of life", "we take care of our own", our city "effortleously combines the modern with tradition / is modern while respecting history".

I loved the SNL skit "Lake Beach", which is supposedly about the South but could easily have been about the Midwest.

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jmonster097@reddit

does anyone else think it's super weird that small town/sleepy suburbs are just... assumed... to be friendly, welcoming people???

dude I'm sorry but people from suburbs are the W O R S T. country people are slightly better but not great. being "polite" does not at all make you a good person lol. most city people i know are far and away less judgemental and capable of empathy. i don't understand why people WANT to raise their kids in suburbs. so they can ALSO be spared the character building of ever having to be fully aware of anyone on earth's existence but their own? lol

so they can close their front door and pretend they're in am episode of Wonder Years while the rest of the country suffers... whatever the hell happens?

this kinda turned into more of a rant than anything. but God the older i get the more convinced i am that suburbs are what ruined the people of this country

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AssistanceDry7123@reddit

Pretty sure the Midwest gets to own hot dish and calling things that are cold and mixed together salad even if there are no vegetables in sight. "It's marshmallow salad!"

No it is not. And I don't want any, regardless of what you called it.

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Bluecat72@reddit

The marshmallow type salads are a product of the post-WWII era, mostly created by food companies to promote their products. They were pretty common throughout the country until at least into the 80s, when different kinds of cuisine started to take hold.

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clearliquidclearjar@reddit

Ambrosia salad is the queen of these and it's as southern as it gets. Not to mention chicken salad, potato salad, pasta salad...

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RufusTheDeer@reddit

Maybe hot dish, but every family reunion, we had 30 salads without a veggie in sight and I'm Appalachia

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DJpuffinstuff@reddit

It does seem to me like the Midwest generally has a more robust middle class than other areas of the country. I'm in the Midwest now and grew up in the south.

Normally for the weddings I've been to, parents just leave early if they bring their kids and it gets late enough.

So all that to say, I do actually think there are some cultural things at play.

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kichwas@reddit

As a mixed race person something I've noticed is that different ethnic groups have a lot more in common than they think. Where they think they are different they are often similar, and where people thing "everyone agrees with [this idea] is where they usually differ."

Uncommon sense is often common, and common sense is anything but... :)

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daddy_fiasco@reddit

I, a white person, grew up in a lower lower/middle class area with majority black and Hispanic people, depending on which roads you were on. Went to a middle school literally in the projects where I was a minority.

Obviously the differences in black American and white American culture were clear. I feel confident I can speak with some authority when I say the difference is far more pronounced with first and second generation Hispanic immigrants.

But what I did notice a lot as someone who was otherwise a member of the racial majority when participating in society outside of my immediate surroundings, is that we all have so much more in common that it seems.

I think that the differences stand out so much exactly because of how much we have in common. Lower class white and black people have more similarities than differences, but the differences can pretty significant.

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huazzy@reddit

Asian as well.

Same goes for sewing supplies in a cookie tin.

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StuckinSuFu@reddit

Living in New England and being pretty use to paper bags or lots of "Bring your own" its always a shock to visit Florida and see the little plastic bags everywhere - not just at the store but in the trees, in fields, stuck under car tires etc.

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funklab@reddit

Lol, I was at an Indian persons house party in the southeast and she produced some plastic bags in a plastic bag to give people to take a to go container home in.

The only other Indian person at the party started joking that this was a very Indian thing to do.

CraftLass@reddit

Meanwhile, I live in NJ and have lost the habit of asking for no bag and it sucks because I never want a bag. I haven't left home without pocket totes in decades.

People get so weirdly pushy about making me take them, too! I quit the plastic bag habit about a decade before the ban.

I thought that was a black / white / Mexican thing.

Look in the cabinet under my kitchen sink. It's embarrassing how often I forget my bags.

My college had just a random classroom building that was supposedly sinking, apparently due to just really bad planning and construction. I was also given a crazy high speed of sinking either 4 inches or 4cm a year on my tour.

I mean we claim a lot more then 4 in Iowa and in other midwestern states:

Winter
Fool's Spring
Second Winter
Spring of Deception
Third Winter
Mud Season
Actual Spring
Summer
False Fall
Second Summer(1 week long)
Actual Fall

Winter

Fool’s Spring

2nd Winter

The Pollening

Mosquito Spring

Road Construction

California Summer (May 5th - 8th)

Satan’s Butthole

Spring 3: The Springening

First Wildfire

Ghost Pepper Summer

Second Wildfire

False Fall

Jalapeño Summer

Smoky Fall

This meme is so universal even the East Bay in CA will post this shit. And it's just 55 degrees during the "winter" days. Instead of 67 degrees on "summer" days.

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CTeam19@reddit

True, but Iowa can definitely claim it:

Windchills can get us to -40, which is where F and C are the same
The Frost Line in Iowa is 42 inches deep and as a result the soil could be frozen for months into May or June making it difficult to deal with Frost Heaves
Heat Index can get to 120F or more and that isn't a dry heat.
The Humidity comes during the peak growing season for the Midwest US corn belt, the region undergoes more photosynthesis activity than anywhere else on the planet -- with levels up to 40% greater than observed in the Amazon.
Blizzards and Tornados happening in the same week ain't too crazy of a thing as this was the warnings at the same time in April
Foot and Half of Snow in early May is possible.

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YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO@reddit

Those false seasons happen far too often here, I hear these all the time

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hypnoticbacon28@reddit

I grew up in Indiana and heard that we had four seasons, which are as follows:

Almost winter

Winter

Still winter

Road construction

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glorious_cheese@reddit

I just saw this exact thing posted about the San Francisco Bay Area.

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nous-vibrons@reddit

I see this for upstate NY all the time. Currently between third winter and mud season here lol

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lumpialarry@reddit

Texas version of the joke has "Hells Front Porch" after summer and no Mud Season. Not sure if other southern States do that as well.

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BoopleBun@reddit

Which is funny, because I lived in Iowa for a bit and I found the seasons more to be:

Jesus fuck it’s cold fucking wind I stg
Tornados and flooding
Jesus fuck it’s hot
Oh look, the corn is turning yellow (this is fall and only lasts for like two weeks.)

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iswearimalady@reddit

Here in ND and the other Northern states it's just:

winter
winter 2: electric boogalo
Schrodinger's winter
Spring winter
More winter
winter spring
spring
summer
fall winter
winter fall
winter but make it spooky
Christmas winter

winter

fool’s spring

second winter

spring of deception

third winter

The Pollening

actual spring

summer

hell’s front porch

false fall

second summer

Still winter

Construction

Deer

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silvermoonhowler@reddit

Yup, and call me crazy, but I can't recall any other winter we've had in recent years where there's still been a ton of construction even in the dead of winter

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Calm-Ad-7206@reddit

Deer season is under rated for highway danger. My mom got in a terrible wreck with a buck in Cambridge. There’s sooo many corn fed deer on my road I just drive like 30mph in November because I can’t afford to be dead. A snowstorm isn’t going to kill you with zero warning like the darn animals out here!

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ExhaustedHungryMe@reddit

Fun fact: more people in the US are killed by deer than any other animal.

Might be a bit depressing but a common saying I heard growing up was.

‘We have three seasons, hot, super hot, and school shootings.’

Growing up I thought it was a weird thing to say. Especially since it implied the latter had a season where it stopped.

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bannedsocks@reddit (OP)

it does seem most shootings take place in the last couple months of the school year.

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tychobrahesmoose@reddit

"Oh my God. has the WORST drivers."

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joeybriggs@reddit

Yeah in America we definitely have regional driving habits and when you cross over into another , it seems like everyone else is a bad driver. I grew up in the nyc area and I’m very accustomed to the everyone just goes mentality. When I drove around the virginia Maryland area I feel like everyone is dying to get in front of me but then slow down. I always had an easier time when I acknowledged this and just try to go with the flow where ever I drive.

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Agree that Utah has the worst drivers of the west (although my experience there is mostly limited to Nevada, Colorado, Idaho, and Arizona).

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ElDopio69@reddit

From what I've seen about Mormons, they're possibly the dumbest people in the country. That might have something to do with it

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msmartt@reddit

As a Virginian who sometimes has to drive into Maryland, Maryland drivers can't drive for s***. Lol

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Buckitrkergrl@reddit

The entirety of NE has the worst drivers, plain and simple. I've driven all over this country, and New England has the most rude, me first, horrible drivers in the nation

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SciFi_Wasabi999@reddit

I've lived in a couple states now and Maryland drivers are something else. Not bad drivers, but aggressive and a bit dangerous.

DC is bad for 2 reasons and it's not necessarily the drivers fault.

The road system is just bad. It can be really confusing and it's so easy to get lost if you aren't familiar with it.

jmonster097@reddit

wait what? do they not have to have insurance or something???

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kanyewesanderson@reddit

Nope. My understanding is that Virginia only requires people put a measly down payment in lieu of proof of insurance. There’s estimated to be close to 100,000 drivers in MD who register their cars in Virginia.

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jmonster097@reddit

that's fkn insane. so when one of these people who can't afford insurance hits someone, or whatever, that person better have MORE coverage they're paying for to be sure they don't get boned??

and their answer to people not being able to afford car insurance wasn't to help people get it. but just fuck everyone else on the road. cool.

i wonder whose pockets Virginians are lining with their tax dollars, instead of having programs like that.

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GandhiOwnsYou@reddit

Which, frankly, explains why Maryland drivers think VA drivers suck. The worst Maryland drivers are illegally rolling Virginia plates, and driving in Maryland.

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kanyewesanderson@reddit

That was exactly my point.

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Low-Ad-8269@reddit

Big-time in New England where the states are small and seeing multiple state plates is a daily occurance.

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the_urban_juror@reddit

I've lived in two cities near state lines and this is actually true, but people are drawing the wrong conclusion.

The border state drivers are from the suburbs or exurbs, people are observing that drivers from the suburbs are worse at driving in the city than drivers from that city but then drawing the wrong conclusion that people from X state can't drive.

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SterlingWalrus@reddit

You can tell you crossed into Illinois from Wisconsin when they start flying by you. The average driving speed difference is crazy

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Kalooeh@reddit

Their speed limits are so much higher than ours too on so many roads. I was just in shock at how many residential roads had a speed limit of 30 or 35 in so many places. I was like wtf do you mean you want me to go 35 through this residential area?! I barely feel comfortable doing 25 with these roads?! Then other roads are like 80 but everyone is doing 100 so you have to also speed because if you're not keeping up with traffic then you're technically considered a hazard and can be pulled over and told to go faster.

Wisconsin you shouldn't go more than 10 over or you're risking getting a ticket. Apparently 26 over there is considered aggravated speeding, but if it's to keep up with the rest of traffic, then if your care is ble to then you should, otherwise it's recommended to use a different road.

Yep. Went to grad school in Kansas City. All the “worst” drivers were from the Kansas side, specifically Johnson County.

And of course, to reinforce this bias, the only accident I got into while living there was a woman from Overland Park who turned into me while she was making a left while she had a red arrow

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StrangeLikeNormal@reddit

That’s funny cause all the Kansas side folk say MO has the worst drivers.

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CambrianKennis@reddit

Mackenzie: You're not from around here are you, Deandra? Deandra: I just transferred from Atchison. Mackenzie: Where the fuck is that? Deandra: North of Topeka, west of the 71! Mackenzie: Well, let me tell you how things work around here in Overland Park! Deandra: I already know how things work around here in Overland Park!

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jitasquatter2@reddit

One of my best friends from college was from OP and he was an awful driver. One of the worst I'd ever met. My other close friend was from Johnson county and was a fantastic driver, so personally think it's OP that's the problem, not JC as a whole.

As someone from well east of KC, I think KCMO and KCK need to grow up and get over themselves. They are the same city and the only thing that separates them is an imaginary line on a map.

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doc_skinner@reddit

And numerous different laws.

You can be arrested for smoking weed, while your neighbor across the street can do it right on their front porch (State Line Road has Kansas on one side and Missouri on the other).

Or that each state has distinct driving laws that drivers learn when they first get licenses and expect everyone nationwide to observe the same.

California's driver booklet literally emphasizes twice that 'left lane faster' is only a general rule, a guideline, and the speed limit is, explicitly, 'posted or flow of traffic, whichever is higher.' If you are in a group of drivers on a six lane freeway (3 each way, a norm here, though plenty of road miles in CA have 6 each way) driving 80 and you encounter a clump in the left and middle going 72 and 75, with 65 posted, there's absolutely no reason you should expect them to get to their right. In fact, the added lane changes, combined with your break lights waiting for them to sort themselves, with cause a net slowing of traffic systemwide. Better, and perfectly legal, for you and those around you to go around to the right.

What I've noticed after driving for a while now is that Illinois people like to speed and cut people off. People from Wisconsin are awful with blinkers, keeping a consistent speed and merging on to highways.

Then there's Iowa. Where they will literally merge into you on the highway instead of matching speed to get into an open spot.

It seems like all 3 states have no regard for vehicles on the side of the road until you get up near the UP.

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rezwrrd@reddit

I used to wonder why Illinois drivers had that reputation for driving fast and aggressively, then a few years ago I took the family on a vacation to Chicago. I tried driving like my usual laid-back Wisconsin self and soon find out you can't get anywhere without stepping on the gas and cutting people off. That's when I realized that fib driving isn't them being jerks, it's simply a survival skill you need to get through Chicago alive.

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WillDupage@reddit

The great problem is, Chicagolanders mostly don’t know when to turn off “Drive like maniac” mode. When is that you ask? “At the border” heading north, “welcome to DeKalb” when heading west, and “Kankakee: 15 miles” and/or “Holy sh*t we’re in Dwight already?!?” when heading south.

Leave your $, though? 😉

(From neither state, but I did live in WI for many years.)

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Inside-Run785@reddit

Money’s just a green!

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TheRealKingBorris@reddit

It’s a toss up between Illinois and Texas imo

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theragu40@reddit

You're right, but I think the popular narrative about it is all wrong. People talk about Illinois drivers like they drive crazy.

I've lived in Wisconsin my whole life and the Milwaukee area for 15 years. I'll take Illinois drivers all day every day.

Illinois drivers drive fast. I am sure this rankles feathers and is the source of most complaints. But in my experience a fast but predictable driver is not at all difficult to work around. Just move over.

Wisconsin drivers drive recklessly and erratically. Every time I get on the roads in the Milwaukee area I feel like I'm taking my life into my hands. There is such wanton disregard for road rules, written or unwritten. And no enforcement.

When we visit Chicago of course traffic is much heavier but I rarely see people swerving in and out of traffic, passing on the shoulder, running lights, etc. last time we visited was a few months back. Had a lovely trip. The usual heavy traffic, but incident free. 10 minutes after crossing back into Wisconsin I was almost sideswiped into the ditch on the highway by someone zig zagging across lanes. Wisconsin plates.

I love Wisconsin but SE Wisconsin drivers are absolutely horrible.

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ReasonableArea1108@reddit

I was just making a joke about what i feel like, is one of the biggest rivalries in the US

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theragu40@reddit

Oh I know. It's one of those things where it's a joke but also not, you know?

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ReasonableArea1108@reddit

I mean it's not a joke because everyone drives equally as bad as the bad drivers from other states. Just different kinds of bad.

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jorwyn@reddit

I live in Washington state now, but not far from the Idaho line. I hear Washington people saying about Idaho people, and I used to live in Idaho and I heard it about Washington people. The honest truth is, drivers suck everywhere. There's just some specific regional ways that they suck on top of general for driving, so state lines make that a little more obvious.

I might talk about how Spokane drivers suck, but I'm really including the North Idaho people, too. I talk about them because they're the ones I deal with every day. I'm sure that St Louis drivers also suck, but I've never been there. I can say that I found Washington DC to be less chaotic than Spokane, and I found Austin drivers to be downright polite. But if I lived in either of those places, I'd probably start noticing all the ways that they also drive like crap.

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GreenBeanTM@reddit

In Vermont, New Hampshire, and at least one other state in this area it’s Massachusetts with the bad drivers. When I was a kid going to dance competitions in Rhode Island if there was a bad driver they still usually had Mass plates. The nickname for bad drivers from Mass is “Massholes” 😂

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RupeThereItIs@reddit

If you live near a state border, people think the adjacent state has terrible drivers.

Don't even get me started on Canadians! ;-)

trexalou@reddit

Definitely true between KY and IL. I’m biased towards IL though because we have drivers Ed as part of the HS curriculum and KY (at least West KY) is an on-your-own situation so… bad drivers teaching bad drivers.

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pakrat1967@reddit

I grew up and learned to drive in Maryland. Moved back about a year ago. I've driven in Charlotte, NC, Atlanta, GA, NYC, NJ and a few other major cities. I can honestly say that Atlanta has the worst.

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YourAllHighToiletHog@reddit

And in my part of Virginia, everyone knows that every driver from North Carolina is going to cut your nose off when they pass you and get into your lane even if there's 5 miles of empty road ahead of you. 😂

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unbalancedcentrifuge@reddit

I have lived in a lot of states, and I feel like Maryland might deserve that win. The Maryland style merge was infuriating every day of my life while I lived there.

sepheffie@reddit

Pennsylvania here and we say the same about New Jersey

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ucbiker@reddit

My SO is from Maryland and admits that Maryland is worse. Although my opinion is that the entire DC area sucks at driving regardless of state, but the nature of the bad driving differs in character.

Well, a big one for Virginia people is being in Southeast Virginia near all the military bases. The common thought is, all these people come from all over the world to serve and get stationed there and half don't know how to handle snow, some have never driven in a tunnel etc etc

So all drivers in Southeast Virginia suck yeah lol

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DearDarlingDollies@reddit

That's kind of funny. I live in Southern Missouri and every time someone cuts me off and I see an Arkansas plate, I say "Go figure".

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MuscaMurum@reddit

Maryland drivers are demonstrably bad, according to Allstate and DOT records. DC is worse, though.

If you live near a state border, people think the adjacent state has terrible drivers

Ok, but Maryland drivers really are the worst.Virginians don't know what a yellow light means, but I'm convinced you aren't allowed a Maryland license if both eyes work.

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dubbins112@reddit

dubbins112@reddit

My friend, I drive a beetle. There is no amount of rhythm or experience that will get a masshole to let me merge into anything ever. They see my car and thinks a happy meal toy, and pretends I do not exist- except for that one person (which is scissor every person) that is hugging my bumper so hard, I’m sure they if I farted they’d be able to smell it.

I will take the bus and/or train in.

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WildMartin429@reddit

Predictability is key and the goal is for us to kind of be predictable to everyone all the time across the entire country so having like a microclimate of weird driving would be bad for anybody coming to that area.

I'm still traumatized from driving in Miami the one time I rented a car down there while visiting someone. I had to stop using my blinker because if I use my blinker the drivers in the other lane would accelerate and close the gap where I couldn't change lanes and then I would wind up on a stupid toll road I didn't want to be on. So if I wanted to change lanes I had to find a gap that was slightly larger than the car I was in kind of maintain position and then accelerate, whip over into the new lane and then brake before rear ending the person in front all because apparently Florida doesn't like turn signals. It was nerve-racking I never want to drive there again.

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WildMartin429@reddit

I have never driven in that region but you need more upvotes because that is so true of some drivers they're not bad drivers they just drive like assholes.

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Maxpowr9@reddit

Not to mention some of the lowest car insurance rates in the US. If we truly sucked at driving, our insurance rates would be closer to that of Michigan or New York. Why I roll my eyes at anyone that thinks Massholes are bad drivers.

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oatmealparty@reddit

Same with NJ

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dachjaw@reddit

I don’t live in Boston but I happened to see Love Story in a theater. Yes, a very long time ago. There is a scene where whatshisname shouts “$@%}+ Boston drivers!”

Everybody laughed because they knew the truth.

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awakeagain2@reddit

When I lived in Connecticut, we considered Massachusetts drivers to be frequent tailgaters.

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OpposumMyPossum@reddit

That sounds like a left lane camper.

I HATE when someone tailgates me so I am super aware of it.

Hey now, you’re most-improved in children’s reading efforts.

Since 2013 Mississippi students went from performing a full-grade level below the average US student to half a grade level above.

So far the places I've driven in, places I've hated driving the most are Green Bay (my own state), Chicago/greater Chicago area, San Francisco, and Denver.

I'd probably also hate NYC but I haven't been there. In general I'd probably hate anywhere with bigger cities because people from them seem to terrible.

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IzzybearThebestdog@reddit

I feel like Florida is just pure chaos when driving. Both times I drove there for a week It felt like there was an accident every other mile on I-95 and people just whatever they felt like.

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Jefffahfffah@reddit

Florida is chaos because you have tourists, old people, assholes in sports cars, and every other type of driver and its just chaos.

cashewclues@reddit

Nah, going from Alabama to Georgia is like night and day, especially as you near ATL. At least on that side of Georgia, they drive like bats out of Hell. Going 100 is nothing.🫣😬

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Catripruo@reddit

Idk. I’ve lived in a few states and driven few a lot more, and I gotta say, between Pennsylvania, NY, NJ, Maryland, New Hampshire, and the whole eastern seaboard — Florida drivers are the worst.

New York metropolitan area drivers are aggressive. You can’t be timid when merging. Pennsylvania drivers — the double yellow line is a suggestion. NJ drivers seem to be distracted. Who wouldn’t be when all the road signs say “You should have gotten off at the opening you just passed.”

Oh I hear you. My ex husband learned to drive in DC.

procrastinatorsuprem@reddit

100% agree. DC drivers are the absolute worst and their grid system of lights sucks too. In NY, you're expected to never block the box. In DC, everyone blocks the box and expects you to do so as well. In NY when the light turn green you can go a few blocks ahead, all the lights in front of you turn green as well. In DC, each light seems to be independent from those around it. And it doesn't matter because everyone has blocked the box so it's grid lock.

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wizardyourlifeforce@reddit

I've lived in NYC and Miami and Maryland/DC and been to Boston and a lot of other cities across the country.

Once they cross the border, though, it's like they've managed to defeat the Invisible Fence shock collars that keep them from driving like complete morons.

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Final-Guitar-3936@reddit

That has not been my experience, hence my fear of driving in Massachusetts.

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Zealousideal_Ad_8736@reddit

For the first time in like 25 years, I drove to Boston (to Fenway) - and traffic was crazy, but people were for the most part, pretty good about 'letting me in' if i had to change lanes

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I've lived in ME, KY, NC, TN, WA, WV, and more, and I used to think this applied to all states. Then I moved to Connecticut.

Here in FL it’s Florida Lets Old Retired Idiots Drive Around.

It’s beginning to hit a little harder now that I’m in my fifties and trying not to be one of them.

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xx2983xx@reddit

We used to say that in Wisconsin too 😆

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xiphoid77@reddit

We always said Idiots On Wheels Ahead :) From southern Minnesota here

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Doublestack00@reddit

Eh, my state it's actually true. We rate at some of the highest congestion, wreck and fatalities every year.

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WilcoHistBuff@reddit

This should really be changed to, “Oh my God, has the worst drivers outside of Massachusetts.”

Massachusetts holds a very strong statistical claim to that position and has for some time.

Mississippi, however, has been working hard to supplant the dominance of Massachusetts in this category for some time.

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timdr18@reddit

Worst roads too

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bridgidsbollix@reddit

I live in Massachusetts and we are excellent drivers..

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MikeLovesOutdoors23@reddit

Every state has the worst drivers. Get rid of cars, walk everywhere. Problem solved.🙂😂

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smurphy8536@reddit

It’s funny because in Massachusetts we think out of state drivers are too indecisive and slow. Other states think we’re too fast and crazy.

Substantial-Peak6624@reddit

I really don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to use turn signals! It’s always a good thing to let people know what you’re doing.

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BoringPrinciple2542@reddit

That’s because Nashville drivers immediately speed up and close the gap when they see your turn signal come on 😂.

Los Angeles is nipping at your heels

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Suppafly@reddit

Yeah but Chicago and Illinois have the conviction rates to prove it.

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goodsam2@reddit

The fastest weather change was Loma Montana or before that spearfish, south Dakota.

Oklahoma City had a drop of 20 degrees in 4 minutes.

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/extreme-short-duration-temperature-changes-us

But that's the flat and wind can whip through quicker. Mountains and water have a moderating effect on weather.

Also saranac NY was mentioned and that's nearly a rainforest in the Adirondacks.

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Spirited_Ingenuity89@reddit

Western South Dakota and much of Montana are both in a semiarid steppe region. Anything west of the 100th Meridian is dry.

Mountains and water have a moderating effect on weather.

Water changes temperature more slowly than air, which is why water has a moderating effect. That also means that the more water that’s in the air (aka humidity), the slower the temperature will change.

Mountains have a significant effect on weather, but I wouldn’t call it moderating.

Your example from New York happened in the winter, which is when the air is generally driest in a humid continental climate.

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Seelie_Mushroom@reddit

I hear that in CT which makes no sense bc the weather here is obnoxiously consistent. If you wake up and it's raining? It's a rainy day today. Snowy, cloudy, sunny, it's all the same

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Content-Dealers@reddit

North Dakota here, we'll back you guys up when you say that you have the worst drivers.

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notyogrannysgrandkid@reddit

Wyoming, too.

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Frodo34x@reddit

Not just humid subtropical places

waylon-strangct357@reddit

See, in Oregon, we have two seasons now too. Grey/ damp, or oh God oh God everything is on fire.

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DancesWithDawgz@reddit

Alaska, where the odds are good but the goods are odd.

There's weather changes and then there's WEATHER CHANGES. Loma MT went from -54 to +49 within 24 hours. I've seen snow and 90 degrees in the same weekend.

Much of the mountain west and upper Midwest is the same, but man we're not talking about "oh a thunderstorm rolled through and it was sunny but now it's raining" when we make that joke...

New England really doesn’t do a lot of meth. We definitely have tweakers but most addicts are into Heroin.

No-Contact6664@reddit

Minnesota nice is not Wisconsin nice.

One of them is sincere.

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silvermoonhowler@reddit

Ah, I beg to differ

As someone who was born and raised in Wisconsin and now lives in Minnesota, I respectfully disagree

Both of them are as sincere as I can be for the most part from my experiences

Every now and then you just get a few bad eggs

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Are you saying most of the reels on Instagram are AI?

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ScatterTheReeds@reddit

Are you saying that no Americans are ever polite?

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Mariposa510@reddit

Not at all. But I do observe that there are plenty of rude people. (I work in a public service role and see the whole range of humanity.)

I have traveled quite a bit and this is not a country I would consider especially polite. The people in Thailand, Nepal, Bali, Fiji, Peru, etc. were far more often kind, polite, and gracious when I visited than the people I see here.

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JBI1971@reddit

I've spent time in Singapore. The people there were noticeably cold and unfriendly.

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Mariposa510@reddit

That place is freakish.

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ScatterTheReeds@reddit

Then, you and I have had different experiences. I’ve traveled a lot, there are rude people everywhere. Many don’t even realize that they’re being rude. It’s just their culture to push in front of me or others. We’re more polite.

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Founders and Bells have a big national distributor, others are more regional. I've made comments to people about drinking Michigan beer who have a Bells and usually they don't know where it's from.

I think for the vast majority of folks it stops and ends with cars.

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Wrong_Work7193@reddit

Been in New England my entire life. Maine is famous for blueberries. Never heard the potato thing lol

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Not_an_okama@reddit

Yup, in MI we're generally famous for cars that are mostly not even being built here anymore.

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PureMitten@reddit

When I moved to Colorado someone I met was excited to "remind" me that Palisade peaches come from Colorado and then was dumbfounded that I didn't know what they were talking about. I'd had an extremely similar conversation with my college roommate who had just moved to Michigan about Mackinac Island fudge about a decade earlier so I tried to be empathetic.

Makes sense. I have a small orchard on my lot, and I understand sweet vs tart cherries and their application. I bet a lot of their cherries end up making pie filling. Yum.

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happygoth6370@reddit

I absolutely have heard about Michigan cherries and Idaho potatoes, as well as Maine potatoes. Also know about Wisconsin and Vermont cheeses, and Oregon cheese as well now that Tillamook has become plentiful here is New England.

I think there is some like timezone stuff here. Why would you get cherries from Michigan if Washington state has them and is definitely closer.

I feel like California, Colorado, Oregon, Michigan, and to a lesser extent, NC, New Hampshire, and Vermont get to lay claim to this.

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Biterbutterbutt@reddit

I don’t disagree with you about food culture, but that’s not what was stated. They said best food in the country. That belongs easily to Los Angeles for Latin American and Asian cuisines and New York for European and other worldly cuisines. New Orleans would be the food capital of the South and it seems I’ve greatly upset all of you.

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tu-vens-tu-vens@reddit

I don’t think there’s a difference between “best food in the country” and “best food culture” because food is a cultural product that should be evaluated in its cultural context, and that cultural context shapes how we experience and enjoy food.

Funny247365@reddit

California foes not say that about the weather. Nor does Florida or Hawaii or Arizona. Temps rarely fluctuate much in 24 hours like they do in the north.

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bigstinkypoopfart@reddit

'My state's weather is so bipolar like it could be hot one day and cold the next lol'

90% of the states I've visited have that same weather cliché. Every state has the worst drivers. At least half the people I know think their own city's crime rate is far worse than it is.

The older I get, the more I loathe hearing these same phrases from people who think it's the first time I'm hearing it.

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CharacterSchedule700@reddit

Yeah, the funny thing about the weather is that literally everyone says it. Here we've got people specifically saying it about the weather in subtropical / humid areas.

When I first moved to Montana at 18, I got defensive because they said it where I grew up (Oregon). They say the same thing where I live now (New Jersey).

Montana actually has some claim to it though, which I didnt realize until I was writing this. Loma, Montana holds the undesirable title of widest weather swing in the world when it swung 103°F (57.2°C) in a single day. They went from -54°F to 49°F.

One time I was in Great Falls, MT in late September. It was 70 degrees one day, overnight the temperature dropped to 10 degrees and it snowed like 2 feet. The next afternoon when the leaves thawed they all dropped. White snow covered in a thick blanket of green leaves, weirdest thing.

For anyone curious, Google says that high altitude and semi arid climates experience the widest swing in weather due to thin and dry air, which does not regulate temperature well.

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ChanFry@reddit

silvermoonhowler@reddit

Oh gosh, Indiana is just bad

The past few years I've gone to the Indy 500 with my brother, his wife and their son

I’ve lived in 5 states and this is basically true. Although Omaha has the motherload of potholes on an annual basis.

Having driven up and down the East coast many times, I agree! I can tell the moment I cross the border on I-95, even if we pretend no landmarks or signage exists.

I used to live about a mile or so across the Tennessee/Alabama state lines up a mountain. The bottom half of the mountain is Tennessee, and the top half is Alabama.

I don’t know what state has the worst roads, but I’m going to assume they have low taxes.

Poor Rhode Island

Exact same vein as what OP said about the weather. Weather does something weird “never know what the weather will be in ”.

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australopipicus@reddit

Lmao I first heard the “if you don’t like the weather, wait five minutes” thing in the Netherlands.

Also the “Michigan Air Force” (mosquitos) is another I’ve genuinely heard everywhere

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ThisIsItYouReady92@reddit

“We have the best food.” I live in California

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Amazing_Entrance_888@reddit

Best beer. Like craft been is literally everywhere it’s not really special anymore.

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vizard0@reddit

Keep weird!

Thanks! Interesting statistic!

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spookybatshoes@reddit

Just the summer? We're humid year round. (LA) Pretty sure Florida is too, and several other Gulf Coast states.

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Hell_of_a_Caucasian@reddit

The shoreline thing is actually something that can be used as an answer to the main post.

Here we say our state tree is a telephone pole

"There are two seasons in [location]: Winter, and Construction."

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Paramedickhead@reddit

I have experienced a 75° temperature shift in one day.

I was standing outside in a Tee Shirt watching snowplows put down brine preparing for a winter storm.

I have been under a blizzard warning and a tornado warning at the same time.

[State] police don’t mess around, especially once you get into/out of [city].

kittenpantzen@reddit

It is kind of wild to me the number of country profiles aimed at people moving there for a work visa I have read of European countries that includes some version of the advice that most people make their friends in grade school and don't really care to meet anyone new as adults.

I guess I still don't really grok how much more common it is for Americans to just up and move.

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mizuaqua@reddit

It's a very common saying in Seattle, a city of mostly transplants.

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lacunadelaluna@reddit

Transplant cities though are usually the easier ones to make friends in, since few are doing the aforementioned "I've had the same friends since middle school" thing. Friends I've known who have lived there for school and after said it was so extremely unfriendly and hard to make friends in, even though most people are transplants. General prevailing local culture of keeping to yourself?

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

A big reason we left seattle to go back to colorado was because of this. It's not like we didn't know anyone, but it was like pulling teeth to make friends that would actually hang out. But at the end of the day my husband was just deeply missing having strong friendships, and he just couldn't find that in Seattle.

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majinspy@reddit

I moved to a town of 15k. I'm an atheist as is my wife (though we did meet here). It's hard as hell to make close friends because everyone is hanging out with: their kids, their parents, their grand-parents, their siblings, and their church friends.

When you exit a highway if you want to turnaround normally you have to go to a light and wait to turn left, then under the overpass and wait at the next light to turn left again. In Texas there is a turnaround lane before the light that takes you under the bridge and back in the opposite direction, no waiting.

No, I learned it to drive in Virginia and my drivers instructor called it a California roll. And that was a 80s. I hear people here in West Virginia say it too.

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Suppafly@reddit

We call it a California rolling stop.

We call it that in IL too.

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sfdsquid@reddit

It's been a California stop in NH for at least my entire driving life which is nearly 40 years.

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huazzy@reddit

Curious if other states have the "Jersey slide"?

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PopcornyColonel@reddit

Oh, I don't doubt that. California has the worst drivers, just like every other state.

I was saying that we don't have to say that the weather is going to change in a few minutes.

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Yeah, I’m glad I was able to learn to drive in SoCal because I’m a much better driver for it tbh. Defensive driving (but willing to zoom ahead if that’s safer), having a bubble (Montanans are SO bad at this omg, they drive right next to you), merging at the speed of traffic, zipper merging in general, etc.

After seeing my stepmom getting frustrated trying to hook up her phone to her car, I’m glad she learned down there too and isn’t a transplant 😭 there’s no way she’d be safe driving otherwise at 73.

Nah I grew up in Virginia, Maryland has the worst drivers

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Archer-Saurus@reddit

But like half the time the reason is "oh people moved here from (insert state)"

Like growing up in the Phoenix area it was always "All these damn California drivers moving out here" and then when I was stationed in Cali I was like "Oh wow, maybe Phoenix drivers are just really shitty" lol

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CreepinJesusMalone@reddit

Tbf with this one there's usually a standard grouping at the top of that list lol.

"You're not in Vermont until you've left Burlington."

"You're not in New York until you're outside the 5 boroughs."

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No_Age_8414@reddit

And generally, “real America” is not in the cities. Which is complete nonsense.

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microbes_are_fun@reddit

Only a small minority of Americans actually live in rural areas (<20%) despite self identification would say otherwise.

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herehear12@reddit

Don’t like the weather just wait.

SqualorTrawler@reddit

I can say with some confidence that here in Arizona, no one ever says, "If you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes and it will change."

It is more like, if you don't like the weather, wait a few months and it will change.

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loud-tortoise-plant@reddit

“If you don’t like the weather just wait 5 minutes”

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Traditional_Brief867@reddit

Yeah, idk, it’s more an Ohio River Valley thing

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SnooPoems5888@reddit

People say that in Connecticut. And in the St. Louis metro lol. So yes, very universal.

Same here in CT with the “two seasons, winter and construction”. So silly.

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Old-Neat8900@reddit

I would say Pennsylvania gets the baddest rap for the rural part of the state. Every state I know of at least, maybe Rhode Island I am not sure, has a rural part of it. I have a cousin in Southern New Jersey who is essentially a redneck, and I know a person who moved to Conneticut in a very rural area and said he has seen confederate flags. I was born in California and grew up there for a while and Northern California might as well be part of the South.

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WeAreTheWobblies@reddit

North Carolua is"First in Flight"(BS).Wright Brothers of Ohio tested on our coast?Kitty Hawk) but claiming invention is compulsive horsesh×t.

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Prestigious-Toe9381@reddit

I’ve been to over thirty states in this country and the only one I can say definitely that’s true about the weather is Florida certain times of year. It’s like blue skies for miles, and five minutes later a monsoon, right back to sunshine.

I guess the one other place I saw that was Oklahoma but that was literally due to tornados so not sure it counts.

In Massachusetts everybody says this all the damn time in the coastal communities but it’s kind not really a thing.

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FoursGirl@reddit

The only place in America that is fucking up pizza consistently is Altoona, PA.

Fun fact: the quote. "If you don't like the weather wait five minutes" is originally from Mark Twain talking about New England.

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Confident-Yard1911@reddit

The wind is a product of the temp swings, hot/cold air gotta move around. Only gotten worse over time unfortunately

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stuck_behind_a_truck@reddit

We don’t say it in California. IRL, in our noncoastal areas, people aren’t prepared for the 30 degree temperature drop between day and night, but our weather does not change throughout the day.

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Wingnut2029@reddit

For the record:

10 U.S. Cities With Record-Breaking Temperature Swings — Daily Passport

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Secure-Reporter-5647@reddit

Basically anything midwesterners claim. Bonus points for New York City thinking they're the only city that has anything.

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9inez@reddit

“In Texas we measure distance in time (hours).”

veditafri@reddit

We have four seasons but sometimes they all happen in one week. You get used to it.

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otetrapodqueen@reddit

I've lived in 8 states. They all think they have the most changing weather, worst drivers, and the most mundane (but usually trashy) shit is just sooo insert state. It cracks me up, but also annoys me bc I want people to realize one place is very much like another

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Great_Value_Trucker@reddit

"There's nothing to do here" heard this for just about every state except NY, FL, IL, and cali. Like wtf do you mean?

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FuckIPLaw@reddit

"We measure distance in miles, not minutes" is one I always heard about my state growing up and then noticed it was on every "you know you live in X if..." list no matter what state it was for. Surprised nobody seems to have mentioned it.

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Select-Ad7146@reddit

I mean other states can say that about the weather. But the record in the US for largest temperature difference in a 12 hr time and also in a 24 hr time both occurred in Montana.

Also the record for fastest temperature change occurred on the boarder of Montana and South Dakota when the temperature changed 49 degrees in two minutes. It when from below -4 to 45 degrees in just two minutes.

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Approval of Congress as a body is almost always terrible. It currently sits around 15-30% in any given poll. There are few if any bodies in America seen as more incompetent and useless than Congress and this is across party lines.

However, if you ask people how they think THEIR members of Congress are doing, they poll much higher. The average approval rating for any individual Senator is about 52% which still isn't amazing, but vastly better than even the top end rating the full Congress gets.

Kevin7650@reddit

“We have the most unique nature/sunsets/mountains/beaches/etc.”

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In Pennsylvania if you don't like the weather, you better just get over it, because that weather will be around for 5-7 business days.

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kayak_rolling@reddit

"We really love our food in __ city".

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Scare_Implement_n14@reddit

Louisiana haste worst drivers.

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toastedmarsh7@reddit

It is absolutely obnoxious how severely the weather shifts in the Midwest. It was 72 and beautiful on Friday and Sunday it was 36 with a windchill of 24 and hailing. It’s so hard to handle the cold after being warm so recently. I wish it would just stay cold and then gradually warm up. I grew up in California and severe weather fluctuations just aren’t like that there.

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GrouchyAssignment696@reddit

In California the saying is 'drive ten minutes and it will change'.

With the weather ones, it’s said in the northern states too. We sometimes get all four seasons in a week or even a day.

Yeah, worst drivers, worst roads, worst traffic…

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goatinstein@reddit

“We measure driving in time instead of distance”

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Kaurifish@reddit

There’s a song called “Your State’s Name Here” that riffs on this.

“My grandfather’d go and put on the game

And fall asleep drinking

While grandma would sing in the garden for hours

Street_Pause_6224@reddit

I can't think of a single Midwestern state that would claim their state has the best food. Specific cities might make a claim (like Chicago or Kansas City).

I think most of the rocky mountain states would also not brag about their cuisine.

Also, while southern states have very good food, but I think most of them know they can't hold a candle to Louisiana, since Louisiana has multiple delicious cuisines done well including the southern one.

I think the list of states where I'd expect people to brag that their food is the best is maybe 10.

Louisiana, Cali, Texas, New York (by seeing the city as the state), Maryland?, Virginia??, Massachusetts???, Florida, maybe PA?

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Heraghty07@reddit

New Mexico!

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tiggipi@reddit

dogatthewheel@reddit

Ok but can we all admit Florida drivers are genuinely terrifying?

My theory is that in other states the percentage of elderly drivers who probably shouldn’t still have a license is like .1%. The rest of the drivers can kinda compensate and things are generally safe enough.

In Florida it’s like 5 maybe 10% of drivers, add in all the tourists from other countries who are still allowed to drive (despite zero experience driving on the right side of the road) and it’s honestly shocking how anyone manages to get to their destination at all

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SubUrbanMess2021@reddit

.In Kentucky, people say "if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes and it will change."

That’s one thing you can’t say about California.

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latin220@reddit

I have family who work in insurance and people complaining about rates going up and costs for their insurances. My family keeps telling them, “It’s not you personally, it’s the rates are set by your state government and the history of claims in your area and a review of your area’s risks.”

You guys either drive too fast in auto insurance policies, are “sue happy” and you haven’t taken appropriate action to protect yourselves and even if you as an individual have taken such measures most of your neighbors have not thus your risks as a whole has gone up. Also your states tend to favor the interests of big business owners and insurance corporations. Thus your costs will go up in deference to their interests. Talk to your local representative. This is always the story for home insurance in most states and same with business insurance policies. You guys should mitigate, migrate and take all measures to reduce risk failing that? Accept higher costs.

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The is the anywhere.

No place is all that special, we just tell ourselves this fantasy because... reasons. We are all just bags of meat trying to get through life.

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life-uh-finds-a-way_@reddit

The "wait five minutes" thing drives me crazy because they really do say that in most states. My husband says it unironically about both our home state and the state his parents moved to, and seems to think it's only true for those two states (which are very far apart and have entirely different climates).

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boragur@reddit

“We have the most bipolar weather” like yeah bro, the whole concept of weather is that it changes regularly

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AmazingAd2765@reddit

known for their barbecue

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IainwithanI@reddit

Similar to your example-all four seasons in a day.

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tres-vip@reddit

In Kentucky, people say "if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes and it will change." I feel like this is a cliche that almost any state - especially the humid-subtropical ones

In Florida you can have it go from sunny, to a biblical downpour you can barely see your hand in front of your face through and with constant lightning strikes, back to sunny again in a matter of actual, literal minutes.

This happens daily in the Summer.

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Santosp3@reddit

In a few minutes weather doesn't change usually in the vast majority of the US. It can change in hours though, pretty much anywhere in the world. In Florida, it literally changes in minutes, and any flat peninsula for that matter

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tracefact@reddit

Tangentially related but Denver is the only place I’ve ever been where it was somehow well above freezing and yet snowing flurries.

And I get it - FL weather probably does win out on the extreme meter but you’re right - we all like to complain about weather and weather changes aren’t inherently unique. It’s possibly going to snow here today. And be 80 in a couple days.

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Santosp3@reddit

I'm in VA rn, a couple weeks ago it was snowing. 40 degrees outside. Crazy.

On a similar note, it's snowing today here in VA, and it will be 72 Thursday.

Sounds like my time in Oregon.

Joke I was told by a native Oregonian:

A Russian, a Cuban, an Oregonian, and a California are on a train talking about what their homes are known for. The Russia takes a swig of vodka and tosses the bottle out the window. "In Russia we have so much good vodka I can get more for almost nothing." The Cuban takes a puff from a cigar and then tosses the rest of the box out the window. "In Cuba we have so many amazing cigars that I don't care what happens to that box." The Oregonian takes a drinks a microbrew and tosses the Californian out the window. Setting the beer down, he says, "We have too many of them in Oregon. But we also know how to recycle."

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casapantalones@reddit

Growing up in Texas, they also say that thing about the weather ALL THE TIME.

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Immediate-Grand8403@reddit

"(pick a neighboring state)'s drivers are trash. Worst I've ever seen."

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Still_a_skeptic@reddit

The quote about the weather is a Will Rogers quote about Oklahoma and while the weather may change quickly where you live it’s probably not as big of a change as Okies deal with on a regular basis.

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ComesInAnOldBox@reddit

"if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes and it will change."

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heyheypaula1963@reddit

As a South Carolina native who has been a Tennessee resident for 39 years, both states have this one, and I believe a lot of other states could, too.

“Thank goodness for Mississippi or we would be on the bottom”!

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jh789-2@reddit

strong.

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WithASackOfAlmonds@reddit

"if you don't like the weather just wait 5 minutes"

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Blahkbustuh@reddit

One that’s gone away is everyone saying their town was #2 on the Soviet nuclear war target list.

The traffic here is so bad.

I live in a touristy area so the traffic is abysmal. But the traffic is also bad when I go to any touristy area, or big city.

Most Americans have never been outside of their home state. Most have absolutely no reference for what is a local, regional, or national phenomena.

For weather, it's the North Western states, particularly Montana. Loma, MT has the record for the largest positive temperature swing in one day. Browning, MT has the record for the largest negative temperature swing in one day. There's just more people in the humid-subtropical states complaining, but they don't know what they're talking about.

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hollylettuce@reddit

No one thinks to ask why the midwest states west of the Mississippi have so few people compared to East of the river, the great lakes region, and the coasts.

That reason is the weather. It will make you shut up about your own weather.

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It was an old picture from Wisconsin.

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Terrible-Image9368@reddit

People in Oklahoma also say “if you don’t like the weather wait 5 minutes it’ll change”

Only in insert state here

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rh681@reddit

It's a great place to live.

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TapTheForwardAssist@reddit

For any small city or large town with nothing going on:

“It’s a great place to raise a family!”

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