[Shotgun] BL-18 Shotgun, $126.50 shipped to TX
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Seems to be the best price, after ship and tax.
Posted by Temporary_Traffic622@reddit | gundeals | View on Reddit | 159 comments
Seems to be the best price, after ship and tax.
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SerialWasher@reddit
Has anyone actually gotten a shipped confirmation yet? Mine still in review.
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
My ffl called me yesterday saying it was in
SerialWasher@reddit
Nice! When did you order? I ordered Saturday. Did they send you an email/notification when they shipped it?
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
I picked mine up, everything looks good. Pretty crazy that they can sell this for 126$, fit and finish is solid.
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
Yes. Ordered sat, conformation sat, shipped Tuesday. I was the first of likely 100+ orders so obviously ymmv.
castorjay@reddit
Ordered Saturday morning, mine still says processing :(
SerialWasher@reddit
Same. I emailed them yesterday asking for an update. I wonder if they ran out and are waiting for a new shipment. I’ll update my initial comment if I hear a response back.
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My ffl received mine yesterday
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For those who have their order stuck in “processing”, like me, I sent an email for status and got a reply:
“Hello, Thank you for reaching out to KYGUNCO. Your order # [REDACTED] is currently being prepared. Since this item is a pre‑order, it’s scheduled to ship around 1 week. As soon as it leaves our facility, you’ll receive a confirmation email with full tracking details. Please feel free to contact us for any further assistance. Thank you, KYGUNCO Customer”
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BushWookie693@reddit
How easy would it be to turn one of these into a super shorty?
firearmresearch00@reddit
Same amount of difficulty as an 870
Buttoshi@reddit
Talk me out of this. What's wrong with it
firearmresearch00@reddit
Literally nothing other than potentially supporting the ccp through a couple shell companies. These are norinco 870s made for the Chinese police and military that they rebrand for import. The price is criminally low for the product quality
DuvalFE@reddit
Nothing for $130. I took a chance based on the overwhelming positive reviews it has.
madeformarch@reddit
Damn what a great price, i paid a hair over $150 shipped from Classic a couple of weeks ago, I got antsy waiting for a restock
firearmresearch00@reddit
Honestly even for that it's a great price. If it was a more well known name/model I'm confident they could still move them at $250
i_am_replaceable@reddit
Y'all convinced me, in for 1
firearmresearch00@reddit
Only 1? I've got 3. They're perfect for filling a barrel as loaner guns for a 4th of july party or the like
Competitive_Use7847@reddit
We need James to do a 500rd burn down on one of these
firearmresearch00@reddit
For real. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy or something because I'm plenty confident that this would blast everything else out of the water
Vic_the_Dick@reddit
I don’t think James could handle a $130 shotgun passing the test. If any el cheapo shotgun can do it, it’s this one.
the_rev_28@reddit
Why not? They did one with the maverick, that’s not too much more expensive.
Competitive_Use7847@reddit
This is half the price of the mav 88
Sesemebun@reddit
I’d love to know your guys FFL, because most around here have a fee of at least half the cost of this gun.
Upbeat-Local-836@reddit
Everywhere is a little different of course but all my gun shops are like $50-$75 per gun, but half my gun friendly pawn shops will do $15-$25 or so. Just an idea of you haven’t asked around
firearmresearch00@reddit
Pawn shops beat big box and gun specific stores 90% of the time in my experience
firearmresearch00@reddit
I became good buddies with a garage ffl. I pay him in meat, 9mm or $15. I recommend getting out and checking everywhere. I've also had good luck with pawn shops. Make friends with whoever owns the shop and often they'll cut a deal if you're a consistent or high volume buyer
madeformarch@reddit
$15 cash but the guy was a total asshole. There's another shop closer to me that's $20, or $15/gun for 2+, that I plan to pop into the next time I'm at the grocery store
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
10 bucks, but I have to drive 45 min. The close ones are closer to 30. Not really worth the drive but this FFL is in every search and no surprises.
Yeet0rBeYote@reddit
These seem perfect to SBS and give to my local homeless population. Anyone have bad experiences with them?
firearmresearch00@reddit
The only problem with SBS is you can only really chop an inch or 2 before you're level with the extended mag tube. If you're willing to really get into the weeds and chop everything to make a serbu clone, then it is in fact a very good donor gun
nobodysbeach@reddit
Quit doin that thx
Yeet0rBeYote@reddit
No 🥀🥀🥀
jtrobs@reddit
Not that i care but prjce is coming up as 133 and change for me in PA.
firearmresearch00@reddit
Keep your eyes out and check gun deals website. They seem to arbitrarily fluctuate by about $40. Last August I bought 3 for $112
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
They raised the price since I posted. Still cheaper than any other store after tax and ship…
jtrobs@reddit
All good my man. Saw my chance to be that guy and took it. I will be buying one and this is like $10 cheaper than dahlonega, which is usually the best
More-Psychology1827@reddit
These shotguns are great and this is the lowest price I’ve seen since shipping is included. Anyone on the fence should go for it, you’ll be amazed at the quality and how well made these are. These are definitely not cheaply made Chinesium shotguns and are league’s above Turkish made shotguns. I’ve bought several of these over the years and will probably get another one today at this price point! Once in a while someone will throw a Pardner Pump (same shotgun made by Norinco subsidiary) hunting barrel on eBay if you want to hunt with the 18 Blue Line. Otherwise you can make a spacer to fit a Remington 24”-28” barrel.
firearmresearch00@reddit
I bought 3 from dahlonega for $112. Crazy price for a pump, much less one this good. Honestly I'd consider it a worthwhile price in the high $200 low $300 range especially considering how dookie some generations of Remingtons are
Dragonnuttz@reddit
Made in China by Hawk Industries 870 clone
https://blueline-us.com/blue-line-pump/
TubeSockLover87@reddit
I'm honestly FLOORED there is a website.
firearmresearch00@reddit
Considering that the instruction manual was printed on a single folded up sheet of printer paper, and looked to either be ai written or written by a non English speaking secretary I am too
bebes24@reddit
Cool, I bought one of the hawk pardner pumps back in the day.
assistant_managers@reddit
Bought one of these a few months ago.
Pros:
•It's gone 1200 rounds without the slightest hiccup. •Recoil is mild compared to a Mav/aluminum 500. •I'm pretty sure it would survive being tossed from the roof of the average apartment complex.
Cons:
•It weighs more than the girl you went home with after clearing a 30 rack yourself. •The fit/finish are inferior to that of a Wingmaster/police mag. •The capacity is lackluster. •The furniture weighs as much as the magpul garbage with inferior ergos/quality. •It's not a true 1:1 870 clone, most parts are compatible, but not all.
I wouldn't trust the QC as much as a Mav but anything that could be wrong with it will show itself quickly and is easily fixable yourself. If you're willing to tinker, I'd take it over a Maverick, if you want it g2g out of the box, just buy the Mav.
I replaced the shell follower, most of the springs and the extractor immediately. As of now, I'd trust it as much as my 590A1.
castorjay@reddit
Does it only take 3'' shells?
firearmresearch00@reddit
It can take mini shells but I can just about guarantee that it's not going to like more than single loading unless you get an 870 mini shell adapter
elitedlarss@reddit
I just got this shotgun but from my research I think it was a yes. Not certain, haven't tried.
TruckYea12345@reddit
Is there any reason (especially at this price) to not SBS one?
ImDukeCaboom@reddit
There's only about 1.5" before you run into the magazine tube.
Jolly_One_7420@reddit
So chop the tube too and have a 3 rd. proper sbs 🫠 I’m thinking about it
firearmresearch00@reddit
For the price it definitely is a good contender for making a serbu super shorty out of especially if you had to chop the tube and action bars anyway
Certain_Cable_1439@reddit
Easier said than done, just buy a Shockwave at that point to sbs
throwaway2819234@reddit
Shame really. I'd buy more of them for fun projects if the mag tube was a more universal standard.
Still a nice 18.5 incher tho.
hot4neeper@reddit
Are the internal parts 1:1 with a 870? Do you have a good source for parts? I'm not an armorer, but I agree the shell follower and spring parts seem like they would be the first to go. The bolt and other internals seem robust albeit crude in finish
Certain_Cable_1439@reddit
The only things different is the mag tube is a few thousandths wider than the 870 making a little work for new foreends, and the barrel attachment is a little different and you need a bushing to put a 870 barrel on one if these (can't remember the specifics on the barrel)
firearmresearch00@reddit
The spacer should be 3.220-3.250" and 1" ID per my measurements. Barrel fits and functions fine
assistant_managers@reddit
Internal parts are all 1:1, Brownells had everything I needed.
cyclorphan@reddit
That's good to know, I had read otherwise but would love to run 870 performance parts in mine.
firearmresearch00@reddit
The only incompatible part I've found is the barrel. It has 1 extra rd in the tube so the band is in a further forward location. This is easily solved with a chunk of plumbing pipe as a spacer if you want an 870 field barrel on it for example
throwaway2819234@reddit
Nearly all the weight comes from the furniture. I personally find mine has fitment superior to my 90s Remington. The Magpul forend needed to be bashed on as I think the forend tube was ever so slightly larger than spec.
I'm probably 5000 rounds through mine. It just keeps working. I did get one of the early imports around 2020 or 2021 though, so maybe the later ones are clapped out but I doubt it.
These have been in Chinese military service for awhile, so I'd imagine China does know how to make them and the pitfalls.
perfes@reddit
Am I not just hitting it hard enough? I can’t get the magpul forend down the last inch or two.
firearmresearch00@reddit
Wrap a dowel in sandpaper and rub the inside. That's how I fit a wood handguard
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
I used light thin oil in the tube first
throwaway2819234@reddit
I know what you mean. It's gotta be aligned right. Once aligned right on the tube, I pounded it in place with a 24mm socket 1/2 deep socket.
perfes@reddit
I’m assuming you mean aligning it right with the transfer bar? Did you have to heat or cool any of the parts to expand or shrink it? Or once you aligned it perfectly you were able to slam it down?
MikeLMP@reddit
I didn't have to heat mine at all, just pounded it on with a rubber mallet. Make absolutely sure it's aligned right, though. I wasn't paying attention and mine rotated maybe 30 degrees off while I was pounding it into place, and 90% of the total effort was getting it twisted back into the right spot.
perfes@reddit
Did you just smack it on its side when trying to rotate back off 30 degrees? It just really hard to smack it since there is so little surface area to interact with.
throwaway2819234@reddit
There are some spots where the action bars are welded to the tube that you can wail on with a flat screwdriver to realign it a bit.
I really didn't find it difficult.
MikeLMP@reddit
I kind of undersold what a pain in the ass it was. I had to put it in a vise, which I then gripped with pliers and rotated while standing on the shotgun itself to keep it from also moving.
merc08@reddit
Put another brick in your purse and hit it again.
ImDukeCaboom@reddit
Put the metal parts in the freezer and heat gun for the fore end is. Or dremel put a tiny amount.
Beernuts69@reddit
+1 for Dremel.
assistant_managers@reddit
Agreed, some of the new ones are coming in with out of spec extractors but other than that and the shitty followers, they are very solid guns.
TubeSockLover87@reddit
You talking about the follower in the magazine?
assistant_managers@reddit
Yes, the plastic ones are known to be brittle on the hawks, it's worth the $15 to replace it with an aluminum or steel one.
TubeSockLover87@reddit
Good to know. Same size as 870?
Vic_the_Dick@reddit
BlackfootFollowers on eBay has really nice delrin followers for $10 (plus shipping), they’re some of the smoothest followers I’ve used.
TubeSockLover87@reddit
Delrin. Love it. Will find. Thanks!
assistant_managers@reddit
Yep, I bought the Brownells branded on and it works great but any of them should work fine.
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
Got a link ?
Callsign_Poopjeet@reddit
5k rounds on a pump shotty is impressive
madeformarch@reddit
Any suggestions on furniture upgrade, or no? I added a shell holder and I'm curious about what springs you replaced the stock ones with, but I'm having trouble slapping $130 worth of furniture on a $150 gun
Powerlifter1@reddit
I have 4 of these, I run the magpul 870 furniture.
madeformarch@reddit
That seems to be the consensus, yeah. I bought the upgraded magazine spring, follower and extractor today, along with a shell holder and 100 high velocity buckshot shells. I'll get it nice and broken in and hope the magpul furniture goes on sale for easter.
For anyone reading along, I've spent $260 on hardware and upgrades so far after tax, shipping, and FFL fees and this link is $24 cheaper than what I paid for the gun.
For comparison, Maverick 88s are $259 + tax and fees(?) at my local academy
Powerlifter1@reddit
Dude once you take it apart you'll see, its a solid shotgun.
assistant_managers@reddit
I have no idea what furniture would work, I'm not throwing my spare set of walnut on a $120 gun.
madeformarch@reddit
Totally fair, I thought by your magpul comment that there were better options that won't run $140. I'm right there with you, I bought the gun because it was cheap and incredibly functional.
Eliminating plastic and upgrading the springs are my only real interests
Mateo4183@reddit
I’m about to swap my buttstock on mine for a collapsible AR tube adapter. Takes AR grips too so I’m excited to have my favorite DAC grip on every damn gun lol. I’ll report back if it feels like an improvement.
elitedlarss@reddit
Can you link the adapter taking?
Mateo4183@reddit
https://www.riflegear.com/p-7405-ergo-tactical-stock-adapter-remington-870.aspx
It’s polymer so not as nice as the aluminum ones, but just wanted to see if I even like ar furniture on it. If I do, I’ll use this one til it breaks then upgrade.
elitedlarss@reddit
Interesting... Can get this and ar furniture a bunch cheaper than $200 for Magpul 870 furniture, but I'm not sure how much I like pistol grip on a shotgun? Will you shoot me a message when you try it out?
madeformarch@reddit
Hey, just FYI I've seen Magpul 870 furniture as low as $109 at Brownells before tax and shipping
elitedlarss@reddit
I'll keep an eye out thanks! It's definitely not worth dropping $200 upgrading a $100 shotgun haha
Jolly_One_7420@reddit
What Better options are there?
Havokk@reddit
thanks for the play by play.
Appropriate_Rip339@reddit
Thank you for the detailed review but I don’t see how this could weight roughly 300lbs.
hellzraven7@reddit
Where did you find the parts to change out
assistant_managers@reddit
Mostly Brownells, there's a lot of information on the forums on pardner pumps which these are practically identical to.
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Red_Shrinp556@reddit
After fees and taxes this is going to be about $300 in CA. Man this place sucks.
chicknfly@reddit
It’ll be cheaper to FFL to AZ and bring across state lines. Not sure if that’s illegal, but so are the fees. Damn.
Red_Shrinp556@reddit
Nah, buying out of state and bringing it back isn’t allowed. They thought of everything.
Historical_Golf9521@reddit
Sucks to live in CA.
doshdoshdoshdosh@reddit
I dunno, there wasn't much of a winter storm here that the other states got hit with
Then again, it's a guarantee there will eventually be another awful wildfire/earthquake/stupid gun law
Chewbacca_The_Wookie@reddit
After fees and taxes your average grocery trip is $300 in California.
Wu_tang_dan@reddit
After fees (my wife) and taxes (my two sons) everything is $300 in Texas.
SuperbBody5089@reddit
Price jumped 5 bucks.
This links cheaper now.
https://yellowstone-armory.com/blue-line-solutions-blue-line-pd18sb-12ga-185-bead-61-rd-525252
Jackburtonsk@reddit
Got one of the older ones stamped H&R. Got as a beater for the price.. it’s heavy but solid.. mine has lots of finish wear now and has been treated rough. It’s all steel even the trigger guard on mine. It now serves as home defense. I also have 2 Remington 870s. I have come to trust it.. it’s a tank and in my opinion it’s built better than my 870s.
illhaveanotherplease@reddit
In for one! Going to cap this in a length of 6” PVC, pack the remaining space full of shells & desiccant packs, and bury it in my backyard.
elitedlarss@reddit
Really? Why your backyard? If your property gets compromised wouldn't you want it to be buried somewhere else? IDK
high_drag_low_speed@reddit
Are these drilled and tapped if i want to add a vortex optic?
elitedlarss@reddit
There is a pic rail mount that uses the trigger pin holes
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
No
radaleno@reddit
$190 to Hawaii
Temporary_Traffic622@reddit (OP)
/Gundeals single handedly caused a price increase smh
PizzaPastaRigatoni@reddit
If you’re someone who likes to test different whacky and weird shotgun loads this is a great “sure whatever” gun.
MDlynette@reddit
This or the Dickinson Tac4 st?
Beerbeard123@reddit
This
TheNinthDoc@reddit
Nostalgic! My buddy has a Pardner pump and that thing was a beast.
Status_Mousse6933@reddit
Actually kinda love mine. Even after owning an 807, 500 and a mav. It fits the same role nicely.
ImDukeCaboom@reddit
Same. It's beastly and works. Prefer the heavier weight myself.
DuvalFE@reddit
Sure why not. In for one
BestMillimeter18@reddit
It's only $2, but is there any way to disable their automatic shipping insurance?
Red_Shrinp556@reddit
These any good?
flyingsailor@reddit
Sure, in for one. Costs less than what I spent on a sling and .22 ammo today.
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