The Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Is Edmunds' Best Vehicle of 2026

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ikilledtupac@reddit

I have a 2025 Palisade hybrid as a rental car right now and its very nice, but has a few stupid flaws. No pause button on the steering wheel, and you can barely see the HVAC readout on the center console.

Other than that, it is a really nice car and I was very surprised.

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NCSUGrad2012@reddit

I’ve never had a car with a pause button on the steering wheel. Who has that?

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ikilledtupac@reddit

Tesla BMW Mercedes

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thedrivingcat@reddit

My Model 3 has a pause button on the steering wheel - you press the left wheel in when listening to audio (scrolling up & down is volume)

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anapoe@reddit

Me neither, but I'd really appreciate having one...

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KentuckyFriedChingon@reddit

If you have Android Auto and are listening to Spotify, hitting mute on the steering wheel will actually pause your music

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Full-Contest-1942@reddit

Didn't think they made a hybrid until 2026.

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AnonUserAccount@reddit

Sure, until 2027 when it’s their worst used car in America due to engine, transmission, and infotainment problems.

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jbb897@reddit

So many Hyundai and Kia haters on here that feel Hyundai and Kia are still building vehicles like they did in the early 80s and 90s. Hyundai is now one of the top 10 most reliable vehicle brands......Toyota and Lexus are #5 and #6. Hyundai is #8.

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AnonUserAccount@reddit

What? Not according to Consumer Reports: CR. Hyundai is 12th, just after Ford and before Audi. That is NOT good company.

My neighbor has a 2023 Santa Fe and it’s on its 3rd transmission in 2 years. The joke is on him because his previous 2018 Santa Fe went thru 3 engines. So yeah, rock solid!

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jbb897@reddit

Car salesperson for another brand, I assume.

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AnonUserAccount@reddit

No, just a car enthusiast.

Fun fact, my parents bought a 1986 Hyundai Excel new off the lot and I learned to drive in that car. It was the very first model imported to America. I also owned a 1993 Scoupe in College. Those were the days! 😂

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DJMagicHandz@reddit

And God forbid you have a recall because they will fight you tooth and nail to get it fixed.

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Forrest319@reddit

Who is going to fight you tooth and nail? Dealers make money off warranty work. If your car is eligible for warranty repair it's a free sale for the dealer. No dealer is fighting you to complete legit warranty work.

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DJMagicHandz@reddit

Tell that to the fucking KIA dealership that I had to fight to get warranty work done.

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Forrest319@reddit

Dealers don't get to do warranty work based on a customer demanding it. They still have to go through the process of documenting the customer complaint, diagnosis of the complaint by the Kia Tech (not the customer), and then determining the correction. If at the end of that process your problem is covered by warranty then the dealer will do the work happily.

Not following that process can lead to warranty audits from the OEM and a failed warranty audits can lead to chargebacks where everyone (tech, advisor, dealership) all get the money clawed back by the OEM.

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DJMagicHandz@reddit

That's cool and all but I'm telling you what I went through, your point is moot.

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Forrest319@reddit

This is how it works for all OEMs. My comments aren't specific to Hyundai. This shit is enshrined in law. Your personal experience is cool and all but it doesn't dictate how things work 99% of the time.

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DJMagicHandz@reddit

It's so bad that's there's FB groups and forums to talk about recalls or lack thereof...

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Forrest319@reddit

It's the internet. There's groups to complain about everything and anything.

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Bld556@reddit

No, you're just out of touch. Kia/Hyundai have a long history of complaints from current/former vehicle owners in regards to shady business practices, which includes deceptive in warranty repair denials.

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TunaOnWytNoCrust@reddit

I mean, some are. I don't know if it's because they don't want their parking lots clogged up with 2,000 cars sitting around for a fix and then parts for 1 to 6+ months, or it clogs up their normal workflow, or I don't know maybe it doesn't pay out well enough. I mean if you have a dealership with like 6 bays do you really necessarily want to be doing multi-day transmission replacement jobs for hundreds and hundreds of cars?

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Forrest319@reddit

You're acting like dealers don't understand how to schedule things

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NitroLada@reddit

ya, they schedule much more profitable jobs/routine maintenance than warranty rate tedious jobs. so they don't do the warranty work via scheduling . you got it

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Forrest319@reddit

🤡🤡🤡

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TunaOnWytNoCrust@reddit

I mean it's hard to schedule hundreds of recall jobs. I don't know man, I worked for a major car rental company and there are definitely dealerships that just do not give a shit about even trying to order recall parts, and I don't think it's because they enjoy doing recalls.

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nondescriptzombie@reddit

Dealers make money off warranty work.

Then why has every dealer fought me on every piece of warranty work for the last 30 years?

Literally the only simple recall was the Takata airbag one. Even if I did have to wait 8 months for the parts to come in.

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Forrest319@reddit

I'm guessing it's you. I used to do marketing for Toyota dealers and we actively marketed to customers with open recalls because it was free money. There are multiple companies that specialize in this type of recall marketing because it's free money for a dealer (BizzyCar, AutoRecalls).

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EWDnutz@reddit

I'm guessing it's you.

Straight to the unfounded accusation, fantastic. You've had multiple people tell you similar horror stories but your dismissive rebuttals remains pathetically the same.

I used to do marketing for Toyota dealers and we actively marketed to customers with open recalls because it was free money.

Not surprised. You did marketing, you didn't deal with how actual customer experiences went.

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absolute_imperial@reddit

Speaking from personal experience Hyundai Corporate America will absolutely try some shady stunts to try to weasel out of honoring their warranty.

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Forrest319@reddit

Sure, that's the OEM not the dealer. Those are two different companies.

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absolute_imperial@reddit

They all represent the same brand to the consumer, fair or not.

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PossumImposter2@reddit

Hi, if a car has a recall there shouldn’t be a fight for you to get it fixed. The dealers get paid to do it. That’s why dealers will send their own reminder letters if they notice you haven’t already come in on your own to fix the recall.

They want you to come in and get the recall work done.

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CharacterMedium558@reddit

None of their torque converters in recent years have had issues (can't say the same about Toyota and it's 8 speed and other issues)

None of their recent engines have had any major issues (can't say the same about Toyotas and it's turbo 6 failures and replacements)

Hmm I think I'll take a chance with Hyundai/KIA. Maybe not there EVs with ICCU issues though lol. Also their DCT non performance cars are questionable.

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JPowJunior@reddit

None of their recent engines have had any major issues

This is patently false but ok champ

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nondescriptzombie@reddit

for some reason

Chaebol

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theteg@reddit

Sure but the coolant systems are having issues in the hybrids, so are the 12 volt systems with the batteries swelling and since that is non serviceable it's a pain in the ass to replace if you are out of warranty

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CharacterMedium558@reddit

Still better than Toyota replacing turbo 6 engines and 8 speed transmissions and GM replacing hundreds of thousands of V8s lol (including my 6th Camaro V8)

I'll happily take a chance with Hyundai. Plus you can get the palisade with the V6 which has port and direct injection, timing chain, and no cylinder deactivation. Almost certainly will be more reliable and less costly to maintain than both of my older V6 Hondas.

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DJMagicHandz@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/s/3GLVEN1mZL

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theteg@reddit

I think this guy really likes Hyundais

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04limited@reddit

That Hyundai hybrid 12v systems are neat but agreed non serviceable item will be a headache down the road. But hey atleast it fan self jump start it every time it dies lol.

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theteg@reddit

Yeah it's a neat piece of tech but batteries still need to advance. It's not so fun when you're hitting that 12v reset several times a day and a Hyundai dealer tries to say it's normal

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hehechibby@reddit

none of the Toyota's competitor to the palisade hybrid uses the turbo 6 cylinder or the 8 speed (6 speed 2.4l turbo if hybrid max GH or 2.5l NA eCVT if regular hybrid)

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TunakTun633@reddit

I’ve seen quite a few early complaints about the 6-speed auto in Hybrid Max cars.

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CharacterMedium558@reddit

Umm the Grand Highlander does use the 8 speed automatic dubbed under the UA80 transmissions. It's being involved in the latest lawsuit from Toyota: https://www.autoblog.com/news/toyota-transmission-lawsuit-new-jersey

Also i was speaking about the brands because you are assuming Hyundai will have issues even though since COVID their new smartstream engines and torque converters have had basically no major issues.

The 2.5T engine has been used for years now in Hyundai/KIA cars. Basically no issues. The 8 speed unit they use is also quite old and reliable at this point. All the latest iterations of the 1.6L hybrid, 1.6T hybrid, and 2.0L Hybrid from Hyundai have all been reliable and used a 6 speed DCT or torque converter. It's unlikely the new 2.5T hybrid will have issues but we will see! I may be wrong.

Also Hyundai/KIAs 3.5L V6 is very robust. Only V6 in the segment that uses direct and port injection, uses a chain driven belt, and does not have cylinder deactivation tech. Will certainly be cheaper to own than my two previous Honda V6s with their dumb belt design and cylinder deactivation tech.

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hehechibby@reddit

Umm the Grand Highlander does use the 8 speed automatic dubbed under the UA80 transmissions. It's being involved in the latest lawsuit from Toyota: https://www.autoblog.com/news/toyota-transmission-lawsuit-new-jersey

yes the regular GH, I was speaking more like for like hybrid to hybrid

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jemlinus@reddit

I have had 6 Hyundai and Genesis products and I haven't had any issues with them. I guess I'm just lucky like that.

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coolmanjack@reddit

Modern Hyundais and Kias are extremely reliable.

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epihocic@reddit

Maybe compared to old Hyundais and Kia’s, but they’re pretty bad compared to almost anything else other than something from Stellantis.

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epihocic@reddit

You get bonus hybrid problems now too!

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12-34@reddit

Yes, we all need a car the size of a mountain.

"I might have to haul something in 2029. What's the biggest 'car' on the lot?"

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jbb897@reddit

Yep! I want the biggest-ass vehicle on the road. Safer, and more "American". :-)

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Spine_Compromised@reddit

Buy a small car then?

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gumol@reddit

A lot of families have kids. Child seat requirements make it harder to fit everybody in a small car.

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12-34@reddit

Oh, I'm absolutely sure everyone buying this car has five or more small children. We all know people only buy gigantic SUVs and trucks because they super need them.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

Do you enjoy being sarcastic and bitter all the time?

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12-34@reddit

These huge mountains of unnecessary car waste precious resources, ruin the earth, block people's views, make driving much more dangerous for others, raise gas prices, etc.

What an asshole I am for thinking of others! People like me should be jailed!

I addressed your silly "capabilities" argument elsewhere in this thread.

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SAR_89@reddit

There it is. You’re a tree hugger with limited funds lurking in the Cars sub. Now all your dumbass takes are starting to make sense.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

I still don't see you telling us what car you drive. Are you ashamed, embarrassed, or afraid we might think less of you for it?

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gumol@reddit

We all know people only buy gigantic SUVs and trucks because they super need them.

and we know all people buying sports cars go to the track every weekend.

The only reasonable car to buy is a Prius /s

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12-34@reddit

False equivalency, and it's the usual silly response to this fact.

Sports cars' traits are partially felt at road speed. Sharp handling, responsive throttle, flat cornering, etc. That's enjoyable at 40 mph. In fact, I drive a small car absolutely perfect for enjoying road driving, spirited or not.

All that wasted Canyonero size is not at all a benefit when not actively utilized, which it only is if hauling an elementary school or fitting my car in the back. In fact, it's a very active liability to daily driving in handling, steering, cornering, responsiveness, MPG, etc.

The Canyonero fans need to think of a new argument.

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gumol@reddit

All that wasted Canyonero size is not at all a benefit when not actively utilized

People like how big cars drive.

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12-34@reddit

LOL, they drive like shit. Laws of physics don't change because of personal preference.

I suspect they simply want to be a big boy and ride high on a huge pile of metal.

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Fun_Driver_5566@reddit

Laws of physics don't change because of personal preference

and the laws of physics say that when a truck frame is absorbing the impacts of the road instead of the vehicle's body, it is a more comfortable experience. Especially on a IRS/coils setup pretty much all the "canyonero"s of today run. People like that experience.

I suspect they simply want to be a big boy and ride high on a huge pile of metal.

I suspect people spend their hard earned money on things that they like. I also suspect people don't take the opinions of randos on Reddit into consideration when shopping for cars.

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ShiftyOtter@reddit

You're 100% correct. I should really just rent a car every week for the costco trip with the family instead of keeping a three row crossover in the house.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

In fact, I drive a small car absolutely perfect for enjoying road driving, spirited or not.

And what car is that?

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joeislandstranded@reddit

Track cars are for tracks. Js

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SAR_89@reddit

What does this comment have to do with anything?

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12-34@reddit

Congrats! You win today's Irony Award!

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aPerson39001C9@reddit

I looked up the dimensions. It’s shorter in length than all the minivans and similar height and width. Do you consider minivans mini-mountains?

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xXEliteEater500Xx@reddit

Of course they don’t

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xXEliteEater500Xx@reddit

How do you feel about vans?

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PreacherSquat@reddit

canyonero

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bullet50000@reddit

Ah yes, nothing triggers /r/cars like people saying Hyundai is good

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jbb897@reddit

Yup. I have had a 2011 Hyundai Sonata GLS that has had zero issues. I'ts been more reliable than my 2013 Toyota Sienna.

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Illbe10-7@reddit

They'll screech about recalls meanwhile ignoring every American car company.

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TTTBeekman@reddit

Nah, we hate American brands too. But don’t you dare touch Mazda and it’s excellent….oh wait… CX-90 plug in.

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billythygoat@reddit

I mean, my 2018 Tucson is burning oil pretty badly and we’ve owned it since 2018 with good oil changes from now and the carfax had good changes too. Also had one engine coil go bad, one rear passenger bearing go bad, wiper arms kept hitting A pillar, side mirrors don’t work anymore, the tailgate paint is peeling, and all of that happened under 70k miles and under 6 years old.

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bullet50000@reddit

I mean, I purchased a brand new 2023 Corvette in June 2022 (model year stuff). I ended up selling it in March 2025 because my experience with owning it made me realize it would be an absolute disaster to own out of warranty. Notably there were 2(!) engine replacements, a transmission replacement, and multiple build quality issues. I have also had /r/cars say that somehow owning my Ioniq 5 will be worse.... and yeah I can't really say with a straight face that it was

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billythygoat@reddit

I mean the Ioniq 5 only majorly sucks from the iccu issue

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EWDnutz@reddit

Same with the 6. I love the look of it, just really the major deal breaker is unfortunately the thing that is literally functioning about the car.

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nondescriptzombie@reddit

You're the one that bought the car built and designed during COVID.

They didn't even have enough parts to build the E-rays for like, five years.

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bullet50000@reddit

designed during COVID.

You do realize the C8 was fully engineered and even released pre-COVID, right?

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TunaOnWytNoCrust@reddit

Yeah and pineapple on pizza paired with malort is delicious, why is that such a controversial take??

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Shmokesshweed@reddit

With its high Edmunds Rating of 8.3 out of 10, there's no better new vehicle on sale today than the Hyundai Palisade Hybrid.

Press X to doubt.

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krazy4001@reddit

Why doubt? I mean “the best vehicle” is a very subjective phrase and will likely be different for different folks/needs. But if you (Edmunds) must pick 1 “best vehicle”, doesn’t that automatically imply it is the best per that rating?

Also, the palisade is a solid choice for many people. Even if you don’t think it’s “THE best”, most would agree that it’s one of the best.

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5GCovidInjection@reddit

At the LA and DC auto shows, the Palisade and Telluride routinely gathered the largest crowds of real people.

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SophistXIII@reddit

Ok, but which vehicle gathered the largest crowds of fake people?

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Lancer876@reddit

If by fake people you mean enthusiasts who were never going to buy a new car, probably all the hot hatches and coupes

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bazbloom@reddit

Range Rover

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ShadowNick@reddit

The only time I ever went to the NYC auto show, every person I met at the Range Rover booth was a unbearable DICK

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xlb250@reddit

Chevrolet Malibu

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5213@reddit

Barbie's real to me, dagnabbit!

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HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit

Margot Robbie is for sure 😁 Now Mattel can we PLEASE have a Harley Quinn Barbie for.....reasons.....

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OprahFtwphrey@reddit

Wtf

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Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir@reddit

Pretty sure that's a BMW, the lines are really nice

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Holiday_Parsnip_9841@reddit

The 2 million people who pre-ordered the Cybertruck.

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5GCovidInjection@reddit

lol the Range Rover, actually. It did gather the cringiest influencers and people who spent more time taking pictures of the car than checking it out

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willpc14@reddit

The brown diesel manual Miata wagon

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I_amnotanonion@reddit

You can’t display a used car at an auto show /s

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global_indifference@reddit

That just tells me every other new car must be real forgettable if a car that ranked 8.3 was deemed the best.

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Live-Habit-6115@reddit

Maybe it's scored out of 8.5?

What a meaningless statement lol

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gumol@reddit

or maybe the scale doesn't suffer from score inflation

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hi_im_bored13@reddit

I don't think it's controversial to say best for the money but best regardless is a bit much. Only so far you can take the platform

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DM725@reddit

Because "there's no better vehicle on sale" is a pretty crazy thing to say.

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buickregalgs18@reddit

May want to get your recalls addressed.

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Shmokesshweed@reddit

I'm current thx for checking

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seeyam14@reddit

The 2026 Toyota Grand Highlander actually ranked higher based on aggregated reviews across popular car sites.

Source: AutosArena

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Bld556@reddit

Another annoying Toyota fanboy. Who cares.

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5GCovidInjection@reddit

It’s the better car, but it’s also more expensive (on dealer lots) vs the Palisade.

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SophistXIII@reddit

I don't think Palisade pricing is out yet, but the Telluride is priced almost dollar for dollar with the Grand Highlander.

I don't buy the "on dealer lots" caveat because that varies dealer to dealer. Lots of H/K dealers marked up the previous gen Palisade/Telluride.

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Ziakel@reddit

Palisade been out since last year. Bought my v6 Calligraphy for $53k OTD before TTL.

People have gotten hybrid Calligraphy for around $56-58.

I can barely get any off GH Limited and local Toyota dealers would not budge below $59k. That wasn’t even the highest trim before added dealer accessories.

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peakdecline@reddit

I just don't agree. You'd have to lean very hard on "projected reliability" to edge the GH over the Palisade IMO.

These are family haulers and the GH for its exterior dimensions is cramped and lacks cargo room. The Palisade interior feels nicer and is far roomier. They get close enough MPG wise I think its a wash.

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Threather19@reddit

You get what you pay for. If they’re both brand new, with the same features, material quality, etc., the money you save on a Kia instead of a Toyota you will pay in repairs later. The automotive industry is fully matured and you get what you pay for, do you pay now or later.

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5GCovidInjection@reddit

Oh I fully agree, I wouldn’t actually buy any Korean car for that reason. Now, some Toyota are better than others, but they all hold their value well for a reason

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Anchor_Aways@reddit (OP)

Edmunds gave the current Hybrid Grand Highlander a 7.8. knocking it for bad acceleration on the base model, interior noise, and the Hybrid Max losing efficiency.

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FledglingNonCon@reddit

These sorts of awards tend to focus on new or refreshed models for the model year. Pretty sure the grand highlander has been out for a few years and didn't get a refresh unless I missed something.

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blr1g@reddit

Yeah, but if you look at the score distribution from their sources, of course the highlander is going to score higher:

Car & Driver 9.50 CarEdge Value 9.50 KBB Consumer 9.20 KBB Expert 9.20 TrueCar Consumer 10.00 TrueCar Expert 10.00

vs palisade:

Car & Driver 9.50 CarEdge Value 6.00 Carfax Consumer 9.80 Carfax Expert 8.00 CarGurus Expert 8.80 Cars.com 9.00 JD Power 8.20 KBB Consumer 10.00 KBB Expert 9.40 TrueCar Consumer 10.00 TrueCar Expert 10.00

There's just way more reviews for the Palisade, and that one outlier, CarEdge Value knocked the rating down. I would say that the Palisade should be the clear winner here.

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Scazitar@reddit

People try to argue so hard on shit like this but like by current review metrics it makes total sense.

Like we're talking about rating based on a 1-4 week reviews usually and what their offering for the money.

Hyundai/Kia give you luxury car level shit for cheap. That's literally their whole thing. Their great at first impressions.

It's not like they can just say "were not rating it high because they aren't reliable and won't last long". They can't magically claim that, their the first ones driving the cars lol.

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xt1nct@reddit

I drove the 2026 palisade and it felt a bit unrefined to me. There was a lot of vibration transferred to the steering.

I chose the pilot over the palisade as it had heated windshield, rear door handle sensors and it drove better.

The pilot definitely has cheaper interior but the touch points felt plushier.

Also, Palisade has better build quality than Honda which is crazy. Honda really needs to get their shit together at the Alabama plant.

As far as reliability goes I think the proven Honda v6 will be more reliable in the long run but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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OptionsSniper3000@reddit

That v6 is new. It ain’t the proven j35

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mrshickadance412@reddit

My 2012 Sonata has aged…remarkably well. Feels new, outside of not having Car Play…nothing in new cars I’m lacking.

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joeislandstranded@reddit

That makes sense to me. I’ve never been in one of these cars, yet.

Here’s a first impression about a vehicle I got recently: Yesterday, a salesperson from my work gave me a ride in their brand new BMW M5 and I was completely blown away about how shitty the interior of that car was for the money. Capacitive touch bullshit everywhere (penny pinching) and plastics that feel no better than my Subaru. The screens for the gauges also looked ghetto af

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WordWithinTheWord@reddit

BMW gets a lot of grace on enthusiast forums because they are one of the few brands that every vehicle has some level of focus on driving dynamics.

But I agree. Both my parents at one point had midlevel trimmed X3 and 5-series and they were just OK interiors. Absolutely nothing special.

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AdmirableRadio5921@reddit

See, your problem is thinking that better than a Subaru can be had. I think my 2015 outback is GOAT at what we use it for: family (5) hauler, ski car, long distance cruiser. I’ve rented a bunch of other cars and only lately has a new car had anything I liked better (lane assist in the 2026 Hyundai sonata).

I’d call my Subaru reliable, it’s needed wheel bearings, and drivers seat cover. A couple new batteries, and both rear wheel bearings. It also drinks a quart of oil between changes.

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india2wallst@reddit

The interior is incredibly well done compared to its peers.

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CurveSudden1104@reddit

I can't get over how ugly it looks like in person. The older Palisade design was SOOO much better.

The back in particular looks AWFUL.

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TunaOnWytNoCrust@reddit

Yeah it's pretty bad. Its headlights look fake like a NASCAR cars headlights. They also look like they're decorative instead of actually doing anything. The whole thing looks like it was drawn by a kid.

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Blaze4G@reddit

So when I saw the pictures released I really liked it. But you're right, in person it looks terrible. I wonder if the telluride will be the same because I currently like what I see in pictures.

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pcmraaaaace@reddit

Odd choice by Kia to not offer real leather on the new telluride at the top trim level. Another odd choice, Palisade doesn't offer motorized adjusting steering wheel while the telluride does.

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CurveSudden1104@reddit

Telluride in my opinion has always looked way nicer than palisade. I love every gen of the telluride

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Blaze4G@reddit

I agree on the first gen but I loved the palisade last refresh before this new gen, even more than the telluride.

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Nicktyelor@reddit

Complete opposite here. I love the way the new one looks, especially how the DRLs and taillights mimic each other.

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global_indifference@reddit

It looks like a Temu Range Rover. When I see it, I see people who wish they could afford something nice, but can’t.

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PyrexPicasso85@reddit

Wait until you see the new Telluride....

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CurveSudden1104@reddit

So to be clear I like the mockups and photos. However have you seen one in person?

The lights in person are honestly awful. The diffuser is right until the shell so the lights have zero depth. It makes it look like a cheap paper lantern in person.

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Nicktyelor@reddit

Yeah I’ve seen a few around me. I don’t mind the lack of depth. The light is pretty evenly diffused and a creates some nice bold figures.

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3d_extra@reddit

I love the new Palisade design. Makes Range Rover designs a TEMU Palisade.

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CharacterMedium558@reddit

You just have really poor taste

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CurveSudden1104@reddit

and like, that's your opinion man.

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CharacterMedium558@reddit

Agreed and I'm voicing it!

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DK4E2XFpbETJrj@reddit

I thought it looked like a wal mart version of a range rover. Like it's really nice at a quick glance and it will impress a lot of people, but it wouldn't hold up under scrutiny. But this is just my opinion, and I acknowledge it will be subjective. Even then, I suspect a lot of people will be quite happy with their purchase. I've been there before when I bought my Stinger back in 2018. The car is good, but it's not a brand I have any desire to jump back into ever again.

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nostyleguide@reddit

It's crazy how nice the modern Hyundai/Kia cars feel. But I also just saw something about vans becoming popular again, and I kinda hope these massive SUVs give way to vans. The Carnival is really nice, but it looks like Edmunds doesn't give an award for "best van." Too bad!

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manilove__frogs@reddit

I want a van work an off road trim like the passport trailsport, and can tow 5000lbs

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familyguy20@reddit

They should bring over their global vans I feel like they would sell. Also just make the carnival awd finally please

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Drzhivago138@reddit

The main problem with global vans is that they're too narrow for US buyer preferences.

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niftyjack@reddit

Bring on the Staria, well-sized for North America

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Drzhivago138@reddit

I originally said "all too narrow" then I remembered that one.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

But I also just saw something about vans becoming popular again,

What, the article about the "massive" sales surge? They're still less than 2.5% of the US market.

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nostyleguide@reddit

Hey, a surge is a surge! Next let's get wagons up to that kind of market penetration!

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Drzhivago138@reddit

Kinda like when Dodge in the '70s and '80s touted themselves as the "fastest growing" truck brand.

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nostyleguide@reddit

Remember when they'd do "the number 1 movie in America" and it's like, yeah, you released your movie in mid-January with no competition. It's gonna be like 40th place by next week.

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absolute_imperial@reddit

Literally any show coming on after a football game on network tv is America's #1 New Show™

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Arbiter51x@reddit

I'll credit their initial quality is great, but their long term quality is not.

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PabloIceCreamBar@reddit

Did they make the driver seat any roomier? For such a big vehicle I’ve felt very cramped in the ones I’ve had as rentals.

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PerfectlyBoosted@reddit

What do you mean by that? I’m a pretty tall person and had no issue with the palisade or the telluride seats. (The now previous generation)

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StonedBooty@reddit

No other way to say it: they’re fat. Whenever I hear anyone complain about roominess in a vehicle, especially a truck or SUV, they are 50+ lbs overweight. Been in the industry for a long time, seen it time and time again

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Drzhivago138@reddit

And as we all know, being fat is morally reprehensible.

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Domtux@reddit

Nobody said that.

But you have to expect that you will not fit in things if you choose to eat far more calories than necessary. The world doesn't need to change to accommodate people making unhealthy choices, we need to do our best to encourage healthy choices.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

Nobody said that.

It's heavily implied.

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StonedBooty@reddit

No, only fitting in trucks and SUVs because you’re overweight is something that you have to acknowledge when you talk about interior roominess. I’m 5’10” and 220lbs I’m not skinny but the interior of a Pallasade is a cavern of room. Saying it isn’t roomy but leaving out the fact that you’re enormously overweight is incredibly misleading

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PabloIceCreamBar@reddit

I have long legs, particularly between my hips and knees. It’s an issue in a lot of modern vehicles because my knee always impacts the dash / transmission tunnel area.

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sri_peeta@reddit

So for the average person, it doesn't feel crampier or less roomy then?

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PabloIceCreamBar@reddit

I wouldn’t know. But if I can sit comfortably in my Kia Soul rental this week, I feel like I should be able to in a vehicle twice the size.

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JiffyParker@reddit

Are these expensive to insure?

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Dragonasaur@reddit

Not as bad as reliable cars cuz the reliable ones are getting stolen in major cities

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Drum_Eatenton@reddit

Nobody has ever stolen a Hyundai or Kia, that’s for certain!

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Dragonasaur@reddit

Not to the scale of Toyotas/Hondas, that's for sure

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Drum_Eatenton@reddit

Are you aware of the “Kia boy” debacle?

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Dragonasaur@reddit

US is just built different I guess

In Canada, the past 5 years don't see a Hyundai/Kia in the top 10 list

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ICE-are-pedos@reddit

costs me about $50/mo in Oregon to insure.

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Trades46@reddit

Thanks to the Kia Boyz. Korean cars have gotten astronomical insurance premiums.

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WordWithinTheWord@reddit

Not for the models that were never affected by it. Our Telluride insurance stayed the same.

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J-ShaZzle@reddit

My 2022 Kona N is like $15 month more to insure than a 19 Corolla LE. Not really astronomical at all compared to one being worth a lot more.

The myths around Korean cars are ridiculous at this point. Every brand has issues. Harp on the resale value, that's at least valid.

Even the golden staple of muh reliability is being shaken with Toyota's latest truck offerings.

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epihocic@reddit

Hybrids, so hot right now.

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Noisyrussinators@reddit

Pretty sure Edmunds is bought and paid for by Hyundai at this point.

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peakdecline@reddit

Or maybe they're just producing good products? At least in terms of how media outlets review them. The Palisade is an absolute home run. The only question is long term reliability, which is a very valid question, but not something a media outlet can test on a new vehicle.

I can't think of a single media outlet that hasn't heaped praise on the new Palisade. It does a lot better than the majority of its competitors and does so at a relatively aggressive price.

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Noisyrussinators@reddit

Yes, Hyundai products do make an excellent first impression. This helps them sell cars and gets the media outlets on their side.

What they don't do is hold up, from a materials or mechanical standpoint. That light grey interior on that Palisade will be jacked in a matter of years.

They also have a rather rich history of recalls, like many manufacturers do. Plus, their resale value just sucks.

Plus, at 50k..there are several competing options for better or cheaper.

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peakdecline@reddit

First, the Palisade has black, brown and grey interior palette options. Don't want to risk staining a grey interior? Buy the black one, easy.

Resale value is a tricky stat. Its based on MSRP, which isn't useful given many cars sell before below MSRP, and doesn't given the total story. Its not a true TCO representative. Its the favorite stat of Toyota-only buyers though in my experience.

The reason the Palisade is reviewing extremely well and attracting increasing buyers into its second generation are straight forward. Its priced aggressively for the segment. It matches or beats all the competitors feature-for-feature. It now has an efficient hybrid option (which most of its competitors don't, or in the case of Toyota charge a far higher premium for). And its interior is just better packaged than most of its competitors.

No, there isn't "several competing options" that are better and cheaper. This just isn't reality. Right now really the only reason you wouldn't choose the Palisade in its category is reliability concerns. And I'd have them. But well its also got the best powertrain warranty out of all its competition too.

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