Game crashes with new mobo and Intel 14th gen CPU
Posted by BestGirlNat@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 20 comments
Hello,
Last week I upgraded my i7-9700k to an i5-14600kf and in turn, also needed a new LGA1700 mobo. I got the MSI b760m-p DDR4.
Since upgrading, Deadlock (the only real game I play rn) keeps crashing. I have probably tried every possible fix under the sun. BIOs update, DDU'd Graphics drivers, undervolted my CPU, verify game files, tried no XMP, turn off turbo boost in BIOs, etc. Nothing works.
Im thinking its just a faulty CPU now. Could this be the case? Ive contacted AWD-it to get a full refund for the CPU, im just hoping im right. Ive seen so many others online have crashing issues with 13th and 14th gen CPUs. Do you think im correct its the issue? thanks
Mental-Medicine-7035@reddit
have you find the perfect config? i have your same build literally, and crashing on games. Even when undervolting (cpu lite load 5, cep disabled, pl1 125W and pl2 180W, loadline calibration mode 3) i crash on games, with spikes of 1.35V.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
I found out it was the combo of my RAM and motherboard. The motherboard didn't like my RAM. Returned it and bought a better motherboard
deTombe@reddit
Make sure you are on the latest BIOS. Set CPU lite load mode 3 and DigitalALL load line level 3. Test for stability if it crashes you can keep moving lite load by one. You will also get IA VR voltage with the latest BIOS set to 1.4V. You might also want to set intel power limits until you see what temps are like. I was able to step up to the next level MSI performance. Use the app OCCT to do a stability test of the memory and power. Cinebench is great for testing CPU stability.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
thank you. Ive already done latest BIOS, CPU lite load testing with different modes, I also set Intel power limits but no luck with any of those. I can try OCCT later today and see what happens. Regardless though, im kinda of happy Im getting a 12th gen instead because of what ive heard with oxidisation issues and damage overtime from the 13th and 14th gen voltage issues
deTombe@reddit
No it's your motherboard it's designed for 75 watt CPUs. I looked up the wrong board and thought you had a PRO version. The 14600K under full load can draw up to 200 watts. Your VRMs don't have a heatsink and will overheat. Likely what is happening when the CPU is running full bore. You will need to get a fan blowing on them and limit PL2 power in the BIOS. If you download Hwinfo64 sensors only find out the VRM temps you can monitor.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
Hi sorry, I do have the Pro version: MSI PRO B760M-P DDR4 Intel Micro ATX
I know it doesnt have a heatsink on the VRMs but I have 6 case fans total and a Noctua chromax.black CPU cooler which should be enough right? In game it only ever got up to 60c max
deTombe@reddit
Use the app OCCT it's great for narrowing down potential issues. If you are using the same PSU from the previous build it might be time to replace. Pick up a new unit from somewhere you can return and easily to rule it out.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
Great thank you, will try it later today :) I did also think it could be my PSU as ive had it since 2021. Its a corsair RM750. Really annoying to narrow down the issue as it happened only as I upgrade mobo and CPU lol. Thank you for your help
deTombe@reddit
Yeah that's a pretty decent unit and I honestly don't think it is degradation issues. Hopefully with some tests you can narrow down. Did you install a fresh copy of Windows after upgrading?
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
That's the one thing I haven't done yet lol and I know its very important on a new mobo. I was reluctant because of hassle to download everything again lol. I will do it if it persists with the 12700k. Also would give me a chance to upgrade from sata SSDs to m.2
deTombe@reddit
Nothing wrong with sata SSDs but a good app is Crystaldiskinfo for checking health. Also try to keep under 80% full they misbehave if close to full.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
ok will try it thank you
deTombe@reddit
Nevermind you fine disregard that comment.
deTombe@reddit
You should download Hwinfo64 select sensors only mode. Watch for CPU min/max temps also look at MOS, VRM or system.
No-Actuator-6245@reddit
Did you do a fresh install of Windows? Full wipe and reinstall.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
I haven't yet as don't want to lose all my files and downloaded programs as I have very slow internet and dont want to redownload everything lol
I have purchased an i7-12700k for a good price so will try that CPU first and if that fails, will do a windows reinstall.
No-Actuator-6245@reddit
You have switched motherboards, a full reinstall is highly recommended and may be essential to resolve these issues.
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
Yeah I will definitely do it if the 12700k doesnt work either
LosMechanicos@reddit
Undervolting certainly doesn't help with stability, more like the opposite
BestGirlNat@reddit (OP)
But that's what is recommend because the 13th ans 14th gen issues are with overvolting on stock settings. Before undervolting, my CPU would spike to 1.48v during games