[Optics] Primary Arms PLx HTX-1 Enclosed Reflex Sight - ACSS Vulcan Dot Reticle $799.99 + taxes + shipping [In stock notification]
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I personally know this thing is always out of stock, and the order wait times are months. So this is for anyone who is looking for it. I've seen a lot of good testing on it, but l'm personally not interested in it because I feel the price is too much compared to the $ 650 | believe they announced it at. But l'm sure someone is looking for it.
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Xray5018@reddit
Not paying more for a pistol dot than a pistol. This applies to the htx, rmrhd, acro....all of them.
You literally cannot tell me it costs more to mfg and sell a red dot made in americ, than say, a beretta 92 made in Tennessee.
Guilty-Difference-86@reddit
imagine chargin a micro t-2 price for a primary arms pistol optic
Xray5018@reddit
And the t2 is a hilarious overpriced pos itself.
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Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
That price is insane period. What exactly does it bring to the table to command that price versus “established” high end brands?
jhendricks31@reddit
Compared to an RCR it’s not a whole lot more expensive
bloodcoffee@reddit
It's not insane IMO. RMR HD is 1K.
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
RMR HD typical street price is 650-774
bloodcoffee@reddit
Ok, and maybe the street price on these will come down if/when people stop buying them out of stock within minutes.
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
Fair. Doesn’t bode well that PA increased MSRP after it was officially released though.
BickenBackk@reddit
I think the fully made in America is a seller for a lot of people. If that's a big thing for you and you have the cash, I'm sure it's a great optic.
SpiveyXIII@reddit
I don't think it's fully made in America, I believe the emitter is sourced from Germany.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
The emitter crystal is the only piece sourced from Germany. The crystal is potted and soldered here in Houston, Tx.
SpiveyXIII@reddit
Thanks for the clarification. As a US manufacturer who sources to the dod I can appreciate the level of detail and clarity you provide to keep things in the US.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
We're aware of the price being less than satisfying to the general customer base. This is our flagship pistol dot, all materials (minus the crystal which is grown in 2 places in the world) are sourced and produced here in the states. We understand that it's not the first choice for everyone, hence why we offer a few other budget optics that people have the option to purchase. But, the HTX-1 IS the first enclosed pistol dot made in Houston, and that means a lot to us. It must mean a lot to other people because we're dropping them monthly and they usually sell out in minutes or hours. Thank you for the kind reply; we're glad someone gets it.
StylesBitchley@reddit
It does mean a lot! I can only imagine what kind of gamble this was for PA, and not to mention just a lot more work. I am always willing to pay more to support American manufacturing back and hope to pick one of these up.
Excavator83@reddit
Did you guys get rid of the Premier Savings Program?
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
It's still a program we support for Primary Arms Optics.
spidercider@reddit
And this is why I'm willing to spend a little more to buy from you guys instead of some dropshipper.
You make good stuff! Also, we're practically neighbors, ha!
KingRansom@reddit
Those buyers better open their eyes. Everybody is fat and stupid these days and those are the people putting together your optic for $800
It's a freaking dot. Go spend $200 on a holosun and use the other 600 to pay for a training course
SPL15@reddit
Yup… I’ve worked with US manufacturers & overseas manufacturers for consumer products electronics assembly. The issue for US competitiveness is a general lack of enough competent people who are willing to do, & can actually do skilled labor on the production floor. There is an insurmountable gap in basic competency between a typical Chinese hourly production worker vs a typical US hourly production worker. In the US, due to a general lack of available talent in hourly manufacturing labor, if you show a modicum of competency on the production floor, you’ll almost certainly find yourself promoted off the production floor in quick order, & then likely backfilled by someone who is fat & stupid.
RedWhiteAndJew@reddit
We spent two entire generations offshoring manufacturing and training everyone to be officer drones or tradespeople. There’s no pool of manufacturing labor just sitting around waiting to be put to work and employers are also impatient when it comes to training. Folks are rushed through a PowerPoint, an online HR course, and put to work building your products.
SPL15@reddit
Yes, I agree. Globalism & giving the CCP access to our IP for cheap goods produced by slave labor had a hidden cost that the US will be paying for many generations to come, if not forever. Some argue it was simply market forces playing out, others argue it was consciously & intentionally done… I say it was a bit of both.
Motampd@reddit
Yea agree with you!
I have to lean more towards more conscious and intentional - considering us (average morons) can understand and see how relying on foreign adversaries for manufacturing with only profit in mind is strategically a bad idea!
The hidden cost we will pay you speak about is 100% intentional- its literally as simple as certain people are cashing in to the tune of millions/billions now....because who cares?! that's for future generations to deal with....
I mean just imagine if everyone was offered a $XXX,XXX dollar loan, and their future heirs/family members would be on the hook for it.........there would be SO many people fucking over their future family because who cares right......not their problem!
RedWhiteAndJew@reddit
Every company that chose to offshore manufacturing was making a conscious decision to chase profits. Whether or not there was a conspiracy at play, I do not know. But I always follow the money.
lobstibb@reddit
Supporting China is gay
TheLawlessMan@reddit
Supporting American companies that don't give a shit about me, don't even need to be loyal to their own employees, overcharge me and the government (also my tax money) for archaic products they probably make for less than a quarter of what they sell for, etc for the simple fact that they are in America and make a few things in America is fucking dumb.
I have an HTX because it sits low, I wanted the ACSS reticle, and I wanted a reliable warranty on an $800 item. I have had zero issues with buying from Holosun in the past and if they ever make a holographic sight and they don't betray their current pricing I'm all in.
There is ZERO excuse for eotech to only just now provide shake-awake as an option. I also think many of you are clowns for spending as much as you do on nerfed lasers.
Technically_Tactical@reddit
Have you seen some of the American-made clothing? Sewing is sewing, I'll gladly take a Vietnamese lifer seamstress than an American doomscrolling on the clock.
Other Southeast Asia countires have a huge base of highly skilled garment workers with deep experience vs the USA who could care less. It's not the stereotypical sweatshop labor of old.
RyAllDaddy69@reddit
I’m in the apparel industry(was with Carhartt, Adidas, Hanesbrands, Supreme, etc…).
All the best shit comes from SE Asia in this industry…I’ve been to their factory floors…and what you describe in Vietnam is so accurate that I simply can’t believe you haven’t seen it yourself.
lobstibb@reddit
This is Wendy's
RyAllDaddy69@reddit
I got downvoted to oblivion for supporting buying American made shit in this very sub like 3 weeks ago, and it wasn’t even a $800 optic.
lobstibb@reddit
It's the nature of this sub. Most users want to compare prices to used options or the cheapest Chinese option
swagfarts12@reddit
Unfortunately American labor for manufacturing is somehow even worse quality than the cheapest Chinese option half the time because the workers don't give a shit
Technically_Tactical@reddit
Have you seen some of the American-made clothing? Sewing is sewing, I'll gladly take a Vietnamese lifer seamstress than an American doomscrolling on the clock.
BickenBackk@reddit
Don't shoot the messenger I was just doing my best to answer the question.
KingRansom@reddit
I'm sorry bro. None of that was meant for you. I was just quoting what you wrote.
NewbRedditer@reddit
Arent trijicon, eotech, aimpoints, and leupolds made in the USA? And all are cheaper, proven options
Technically_Tactical@reddit
Aimpoint is Swedish.
Trijicon uses German glas for their ACOGs and Japanese glass in their variable optics.
Leupold uses an embarrassing amount of sourced mats all up and down their product chain.
Eotech uses Japanese glass in their variable optics.
BBQSauce61@reddit
German and Japanese glass is the best in the world. I don't know exactly how the .mil contracts function in this regard, but in some cases, unfortunately, it's best to not have 100% made in the US...
Technically_Tactical@reddit
FCC (or whatever body determines it) says X% of product must be supplied and assembled by a country for the "Made In..." designation. So, some % can be sourced elsewhere.
medicalboa@reddit
Aimpoint is Swedish, eotechs are mostly made in michigan and the vudus in japan, only leupolds high end stuff is made in Oregon the rest is japan and china, trijicon is almost entirely made in US with some parts for lower end lines coming from japan and being assembled here.
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
If that’s it’s only selling point for $800 then lol
RyAllDaddy69@reddit
I want that Japanese glass.
Don’t nobody won’t no funky American glass.
Technically_Tactical@reddit
ACOGMasterRace
Or anything that uses Schott glass.
Next_Emphasis_9424@reddit
Its USA made and berry compliance opens lots of US government sales options. Imagine it’s more so priced for those folk with everyday people as a secondary.
possum-fucker@reddit
100% this, its not for joe blow “i only buy american” its for those sweet sweet government contracts
BickenBackk@reddit
I'm not snagging it either, I was just trying to share what I know lol
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
It is a sweet optic. Checks a lot of boxes for me, especially with the footprint adaptability.
As much as I like it, the $800 is steep. It was $700 and that felt like a lot.
Foxxy__Cleopatra@reddit
Real answer because it's the lowest deck height on the market.
Agreed.
CamelJ0key@reddit
i honestly thought it was a typo, seriously primary arms wtf
Technically_Tactical@reddit
Guntuber endorsement.
GrouchTheMongolian@reddit
I would never, but the question for you would be what would make you spend 8hundo on it? other than lmao this is what they marked it up to
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
Idk but it’d have to be something significantly different or better that really sets it apart versus a P2 or Steiner to be command nearly double in price. I can’t think of what that feature set would be
jhendricks31@reddit
These are leaps and bounds better than the EPS for anyone looking. If you’re mil/first responder the price comes down to around $700 which is still steep, but you’re getting one of the only enclosed optics that fits the RMR pattern (and ZEV style RMR cut) and has an insanely low deck height. Standard iron sights cowitness well and the reticle is great (even though I wanted a regular dot initially). Love the setup.
https://imgur.com/gallery/v07n8iu#btJr5TV
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Fearless-Jeweler-318@reddit
the optic this thing is trying to copy isn't even worth it at a lower price than this
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Not sure which optic we would be copying because nothing else comes close lol
Mindless-Arm4185@reddit
COA?
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
The COA and HTX-1 aren't even remotely close to being similar outside of them both being Enclosed dots.
Mindless-Arm4185@reddit
Why is that ? Seems to be the two closest on the market.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Why? COA is only compatible with the A-Cut (so if you want a COA you have to purchase the Glock with it) \~ HTX-1 is compatible with MOS, RMR-A, and RMR-B (a wide range of handguns already exist with these cuts). COA is made abroad \~ HTX-1 is Made in USA. Both have different housings and reticle designs, however, both achieve co-witness with stock iron sights (Glock) due to the low mounting solutions. COA uses 2 mounting screws and only the A-Cut \~ HTX-1 uses our chassis system to adapt the optic to the slide with 4 screws (all hardware included)
I'm just confused on how it's copying something when they're not even close to being the same.
hitemlow@reddit
$800, the size of a USPS regulation mailbox, and doesn't natively fit COA?
Houstonaut@reddit
Bro, the only thing that natively fits the COA… is the COA. That’s… dumb.
vkbrian@reddit
Everyone wants “Made in USA” until they see how much it costs to make stuff in the USA
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
Yall always say this stupid ass shit as justification/validation for American companies fucking you in the ass raw, when it’s means nothing. It’s just another internet buzzword to make you feel better about being taken through the mattress.
This optic was marketed at $650 for like 2 years. Literally 2-3 people got it and they couldn’t get it in the hands of anyone at that price. Now they want $800 for an optic with zero track record and still being limited. That ain’t cool.
BloodyRimhole@reddit
I mean, Made in the US means whoever made it was paid at least minimum wage, usually accompanied with some sort of insurance/benefits. Not saying it justifies adding whatever they want to the price, but it definitely adds more to the equation when calculating cost.
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
I know what it means, but I can guarantee you the person who made it despite all of those upsides, STILL can hardly afford their rent if they can at all. Still can’t afford basic necessities and still won’t see the benefits that the upcharge on this optic supposedly will assist with. If this optic is made in Texas, on the low end the person who put this together makes $7.25 an hour. That’s a whole other conversation, but something to think about though.
Fundamentally we agree and I support “buying American”, but the execution is poor every time and the greed always secretes out of the pores of these companies. Regardless, these will be a tough sell at $800 no matter how we feel.
StylesBitchley@reddit
You understand there is more to an optic than assembly, right? Like machining, PCB manufacture, etc. And all those jobs have support staff like engineers and accountants. It's not just minimum wage.
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
No shit. You can read where I said “at the low end the person who puts these together makes $7.25 an hour”.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
$7.25/hr is ridiculous. We pay our employees better than Mcdonalds lol
BloodyRimhole@reddit
Yea I definitely agree on all points there
scantily_chad@reddit
Had to scroll too far to see a non retarded take. Thank you.
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
Something so surface level impressing you when there’s deeper issues with that is, concerning.
scantily_chad@reddit
Aha a retard!!
Yes, I was waiting for some asshole with a basic empathy for the American worker not getting blessed with slave wages, and some basic measure of basic ass health insurance. Instead of slave labor China (until proven otherwise). And then this patriot above me shows that he will spend money for such a company that rewards its workers.
You simple retard. Stay concerned
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
Your stupidity is so mind blowing that I cannot believe you’re even allowed cell phone access. You need to be locked in a psychiatric ward.
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
“No bro, I’ll pay $4,000 for a NGAL because it’s American made and L3 Harris made this for freedom loving muricans even though it took them $300 to manufacture. Who cares if they’ll tell me to fuck off if it has issues, it won’t need repair.”
/s
RyAllDaddy69@reddit
$240 HFXC ftw.
TheLawlessMan@reddit
The SMSLaser Trinity is the most expensive laser I have ever bought at $350.00 and I am proud of that. It has everything but a visible light. Most of these companies should be ashamed of themselves.
We would expect an American company to sell a more reliable (and probably lower power) version for $600-$700 but they would actually sell it for $1500+. No. I'm not supporting them screwing me.
EnvironmentalClue362@reddit
I’ve been entertaining the thought of getting one of those SMS Trinity lasers. Have you ran into any issues?
TheLawlessMan@reddit
Not yet but I am not a serious user. I'm never going to put 2K+ rounds through it.
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
“Made in USA” doesn’t mean shit just like any other country of origin. Have yall seen a lot of the new constructions homes? Made in USA btw for obvious reasons.
QA and QC are what make a good product not origin. Strict standards can be applied to any manufacturer of origin.
DonnerPartyPicnic@reddit
My house was built in 2021, awful construction. Wait times because lumber shortages turned into "we need to finish this NOW". So the builders did the bare minimum on fit and finish so they can move onto the next one. Faster funnier is the name of the game now.
officialbronut21@reddit
Companies think they can slap "made in America" and charge triple. Yes, things are more expensive to make in the US, but not 3x as much. It would be reasonable if it was a 30-50% markup
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
Does it really cost that much or are the companies just greedy as fuck? Or is it the tariffs?
More at 8
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
I’m also very curious about the $150 price increase. At first, I thought $650 was high but reasonable, but $800 is too high for me for a single dot, personally.
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
PA mentioned in AR15's forum that they adjusted the price after "realizing the true cost of made in America." [paraphrased]
Brilliant-Bat7063@reddit
Sure PA. 🤣 release the files (the accounting trail)
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
It did seem like a lackluster justification - perhaps struggling to retain help in Houston, TX...?
I'd love to see the actual breakdown for why this costs so much. P2s are \~$500, Steiners MPS are even less.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Neither of those optics are made in USA. They're sourced at the lowest price possible made by people paid at the lowest price possible. At least compare it to something similar like the RCR at 1,019.00
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
Well, in the case of the RCR, it's $699.99 on your own website and that's prior to any discount. I'd take another HTX-1 for the sale price of a RCR. Still bummed I missed the blems in the $500s.
I thought Steiner MPS was Made in Germany, but perhaps their sourcing is not all EU / Germany products. Or the cost for an American employee is much, much different.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
I'm sure we'll have another blem sale in the future. We're doing our best to promote here on reddit and also on social to give everyone a chance to get them before they're out.
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
Fair. I think the upside & form factor to the HTX-1 is really good, at least for me, but the price hike really turned me off despite really enjoying mine.
Clifton1979@reddit
To: Jeevacation@gmaildotcom
“I loved the torture (test) video”….
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
I think people are confused about the price. There are 2 models, ACSS Vulcan Dot \~ originally 749.99, and Dot only \~ originally 699.99. The increase was only $50.
charsons@reddit
It costs significantly more to produce in the States than China. We basically shipped all of our manufacturing capability overseas, letting them build massive factories and a competent workforce for corporate profits. Not to mention a Chinese worker will be paid several times less than the equivalent American worker.
I would be willing to bet that PA’s profit on this optic would be similar to Holosun’s profit on a $300 red dot. It’s cheaper to buy all your raw materials, ship it overseas, have it manufactured, and shipped back to your warehouse than it would just paying a company in your state to produce it.
swagfarts12@reddit
Honestly even if we didn't ship all of our manufacturing overseas, American goods would still be significantly more expensive due to higher labor and regulatory costs. This would be made worse with unions too
vkbrian@reddit
Gun Jesus did a video with PA where they detailed how and why it’s so expensive to produce.
Technically_Tactical@reddit
CNC is CNC.
Chinese 8th graders can code in Python, America has to pay Shaniqua $17.50/hr to not care about making customers' burritos.
Accurate-Side-8697@reddit
Makes you wonder when our service/hospitality/medical based industry is going to come crashing down. Corporations, with the aid of the government, are importing H-1B's as indentured servants with ICE as a smokescreen, bloating the labor pool, lying about "skill gaps", and forcing the middle class taxpayer to compensate for dogshit wages with a third of our incomes... what happens when all the boomers are dead and nobody has money for vacations?
Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit
AGI and fusion will create a post capitalist/post scarcity society and we all win
/s
Or here’s to hoping
vkbrian@reddit
You can’t CNC the crystals they use for the LEDs, unfortunately.
BrownFoldingChair@reddit
That and everyone wants stuff to be as cheap as possible until they’re the ones trying to run a business.
GildSkiss@reddit
Love getting wallet raped by fellow patriots because "America"
Conscious_Reality419@reddit
I don't think I can justify 800 for a pistol optic.
ricepharmacy@reddit
Is the deal in the room with us?
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
It’s an in stock post and it sold out after I posted it so someone must’ve wanted it lol
TheMilkmanRidesAgain@reddit
I really hope that’s not what this place is turning into
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Guys, this is ONE of hundreds of products we offer. It's really not that deep.
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
It’s not that deep
Resident_Two_1679@reddit
Bought it this morning for its low cowitness, Goanna put it on my Glock 20 gen 5
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
That's going to look rad on a Glock 20!
Resident_Two_1679@reddit
ayy thanks! Love the optics from you guys when can I expect it to be shipped out?
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
You should see it ship this week. If you don't, shoot me a comment here or DM and I'll personally see that it does.
TheRenownWolf@reddit
Idk I guess I’ll stick to acros. Even an Rcr isn’t this much.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
RCR is 1,019.00 retail...... but nobody seems to care about that?
TheRenownWolf@reddit
Msrp yes, but on your own site it sells for 699.
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Fair point. Ya got me. Personally, I've shot with both and the chassis system on the HTX-1 is worlds better than the holed screws on the RCR (which I've had backout on me even with loctite applied). HTX-1 also sits much lower, meaning I don't need to spend that extra on raised iron sights for cowitness. The HTX-1 chassis system adapts our optic to your slide, vs every other optic plate system which adapts the slide to the optic. There are more benefits to this optic than people are willing to admit.
TheMilkmanRidesAgain@reddit
It could be made on mars for all I care I’m not paying 800 dollars for a pistol dot
ExoticGeologist@reddit
Does Primary Arms make it themselves or is it contracted out?
PrimaryArmsOnline@reddit
Made right here in our Optics facility in Houston, Tx.
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
This is the MiUSA optic that PA is producing now. Allegedly everything outside of the fiber (?) itself is a USA product too. The fiber is grown in Germany, apparently one of only two places that produces that fiber.
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SantasAinolElf@reddit
What a beefcake. Huge price for a PA optic, and I'm a fan of their stuff. Hard to justify a dot that's probably the same price as the pistol it'll get mounted on.
atlhawks1@reddit
$800 for a RDS?!?!?!?! Beam me up Scotty!
renegadeGDI@reddit
This or three EPS and some ammo?
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
Three eps and ammo 😂😂😂
OrtnerSkor@reddit
Have an EPS. It's just fin thanks.
prudiisten@reddit
Are we really gatekeeping an metal plate behind mil/le credentals?
TheMorningDove@reddit
I love Primary Arms, they are Texas based, have exceptional service, run deep sales, and have some great optics. Their SLX 1-6 NOVA is the best LPVO under $500. But…
This optic sucks for that price. Why would anyone buy this for $800 when you can get the excellent Holosun 509t for HALF that price. I much prefer a direct mount, I don’t want plates of any sort. And then they make it worse with this in the description:
SIG M17/M18 plate available for MIL/LE only
Like, seriously? You are going to do a dumb plate system and then lock out people who have bought their M17/M18’s legitimately, ironically some of those models were sold by Primary Arms themselves. So that’s a lame move on multiple levels.
Do not buy this optic. But also do not judge other Primary Arms optics by this.
lobstibb@reddit
This is for a back order and it should ship for free being a primary arms optic unless that's changed
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
It actually sold out lol it’s on back order now
Triggerz777@reddit
That price is awful. They can keep it
unforgiverii@reddit
Almost the same price as the damn plx lpvo lol
jtj5002@reddit
I'm gonna have to pass on a $800 small window dot.
Ok_Storm_282@reddit
Yea and Sig Loc is only $550 if you can overlook the sig p320's shortcoming and thats made all in america with better glass.
oakleyman23@reddit
Even at my qualified price of $719, that's steep as hell. I like what they're doing, but this one ain't for me...
FrostyBit7602@reddit
Nahhh.. This ain’t it boss 😂😂
tylizzle69@reddit
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is the only closed emitter with the ACSS Vulcan that has the center dot and not the chevron. That’s exactly what I want on my pistol. But this price is just way too high so it ain’t gonna happen.
Lenfried@reddit
Low deck height + 2032 battery is a nice combo. Need more companies to copy their homework.
HuLaTin@reddit
It’d be a maybe at 400 but even $719 is crazy
Tiny_Dancer87@reddit
Holosun is your jam.
ultramarioihaz@reddit
Hard enough to stomach rmr hd prices, not taking this from PA
GildSkiss@reddit
I would love it if PA would take this exact design and farm it out to their normal Chinese child slave factories.
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
This in SLx with glass clarity comparable to EPS/509T would probably make me replace a few dots in the collection.
I yearn for one more of these to run as a full-time offset dot, but for $800 I can get a new P2 (or MPS), Badger mounts, and take the wife out for a very nice dinner to help justify the purchase.
Huge-Two-3358@reddit (OP)
I was just talking to my buddy about this
SmoothJ1mmyApollo@reddit
This is the one Hop really liked in his review I think. Not dropping 800 bones on a pistol dot though..
Radiant_Eagle7634@reddit
You're correct. One of the rare optics to pass Hop's approval, but he sold it to go back to an EPS based on price point, IIRC. lol
BurnerAcctThuggin@reddit
He said he couldn’t justify keeping it at the price point when his Holosuns do the exact same for fractions of the cost. So yeah, on par.
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