[Optics] Holosun EPS Reflex Sight 6MOA Red Dot - $253.63 shipped with code PRESDAY26
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They cancelled my EPS order after a week. Heard not the best things about botach and guess I'm being proven correct.
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I purchased mine before the 12pm deadline for 2 day shipping and received mine in 2 days. Sorry about your order, I bet it won't be long before Botach gets blacklisted again.
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Ordered with another item and only got the eps. Other item wasn’t in package when it said it would be. Contacted customer service by email and phone/VM and still haven’t heard back.
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ForsakenRepublic1776@reddit
Tempted... I need something for my new glock 19 gen 5 mos that's coming my way. EPS or EPS carry for a little more?
Interesting-Win6219@reddit
Did you get the parros deal too? Lol
Electronic-Funny-475@reddit
Did I miss a parros deal? Damn i need to remind him night shift sucks.
Interesting-Win6219@reddit
They had g19 gen 4s for like 309 I think and then g19 gen 5 mos for 399 with 3 mags.
nygiant213@reddit
You saw that deal on here?
ForsakenRepublic1776@reddit
Yes, it was posted here. I just picked mine up today from my FFL and it is in phenomenal condition!
Interesting-Win6219@reddit
I don't recall if it was posted here or not. I may of seen it after it went live.
ForsakenRepublic1776@reddit
Yessir! lol
DrNinjaPandaManEsq@reddit
Same here, he works fast lol
Interesting-Win6219@reddit
I got a label a few days ago but says awaiting carrier. I'll have to check it out. Parros is so goated
3girls1cat@reddit
Eps imo for the bigger window, eps carry is better for glock 43x but will be flush with slide on glock 19
No_Artichoke_5670@reddit
Definitely the full-size. The Carry is for thin micro-compacts, like the P365 series, etc.
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Or the 509t they have too
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Too everyone saying they are a shotty company I ordered mine last night and fedex had it by noon today.
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Shoots, feel days late 😓
Bluejay0@reddit
Are the larger mos dots better for those with astigmatism?
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CptMaxPower@reddit
You will get conflicting answers. For me personally, smaller dots tend to starburst. I would recommend looking for yourself if possible.
QuiteFrankly13@reddit
Already got mine delivered, crazy.
Micho_Rizzo51@reddit
The EPS is a fantastic red dot. Amd at this price, definitely beats the RMR for 99% of end users.
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I thought Botach was black listed. Is it not?
_HottoDogu_@reddit
I think they got amnestied off the list a while ago. I've bought from them a few times in the past two years and have had no issues.
D_S_1988@reddit
Yeah, I've bought from them recently. December I think, and they shipped next day. No issues. USPS St. Louis distribution center however, can eternally fuck off. Most things I order just sit up there for weeks on end.
DrNinjaPandaManEsq@reddit
What, you don’t like your stuff hanging out in Earth City, MO for forever?
D_S_1988@reddit
Heh, UPS usually moves their shit pretty quick.
DrNinjaPandaManEsq@reddit
I’m in south STL and it’s even more fun seeing stuff hang out there for a while and then go to IL or something before getting to me. Like bro I’d rather drive up there and get it at that point
D_S_1988@reddit
I hear you. It’s entirely frustrating. I think the STL distro center is probably the worst managed of them all.
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Same experience. Had to deal with them during covid, wild that they're still that bad. The thing is I don't even live around there, and the item I ordered didn't originate from there either. After it sat for weeks it finally moved to my state, but was then shipped back to St Louis distribution center to sit for another week. Mind blowing
heretobuyandsell@reddit
Complete opposite experience with them in my case
Placed that order about 9 days ago now. That kynshot also appears to be in stock with \~139 quantity as of this comment.
Insult to injury I even paid additional shipping fee to coincide with my day off because recent CA laws require us to sign for our firearm parts now.
D_S_1988@reddit
Cope
nubbinator@reddit
I bought from them recently and it was a fucking nightmare. They marked my order as shipped, them several days later told me that half my order (60% of the cost of it) was out of stock with no restock date. When I tried to cancel the order within hours of the out of stock notice, they told me they couldn't. The tracking number didn't become active until almost a week later. Their customer service was terrible and never answered questions, instead ignoring me when I repeatedly pointed out they were refunding me too little and that my item still was not shipped, so they could cancel the order. It took weeks for them to process my refund and when they did, they still didn't refund me the full amount.
CakeRobot365@reddit
I'll never purchase from them again myself. I had a couple of successful buys back in the day before I learned my lesson.
Jamalismail@reddit
I've purchased magazines and multiple optics from them over the past 2 years. Never had a problem. Pretty decent shipping too
yeeeeeeeeeeeters@reddit
I hope not since I love botach, great site
0samaismyMama@reddit
Nah
thesisterfister69@reddit
OOS
Ernie_McCracken88@reddit
barrgghhh
fullautohotdog@reddit
Have one of these on my huntin’ Glock (20).
Alpha_Team_@reddit
I was thinking of doing the same but came too late. OOO
goslinlookalike@reddit
Green dot eps 6 moa is same price and in stock
Alpha_Team_@reddit
I don’t do well with green… my scs looks like a giant burst 💥
WhatTheFuckOver17@reddit
Well. It was in my cart for an hour. And then it sold out. Why do I hesitate.
goslinlookalike@reddit
The green is still in stock
D_S_1988@reddit
Not a bad deal tbh. 6 moa is a little bit for me, but again, not bad.
mtbmaniac12@reddit
6 moa eps is the best red dot for people with astigmatism. FYI
LengthinessWestern64@reddit
Not for me. Too fat of a dot. It doesn't blur, so I'll give you that. I'd still rather have a tiny green dot that blurs a bit over a fat dot.
mtbmaniac12@reddit
You disagree with yourself. I said it’s best for astigmatism. Then you say no, but actually yes it eliminates blur.
55thParallel@reddit
I think the point is making is “less blurry =/= better for astigmatism”
I would rather a clear 6moa over a blurry 3, but I have heard plenty of people say the opposite
LengthinessWestern64@reddit
This
mtbmaniac12@reddit
I’m objectively correct. Showing less blur is better for astigmatism. Whether or not people prefer blurry 2 moa dots over crisp 6, is preference.
55thParallel@reddit
Good for you, this is a conversation about preference you fucking dork
Designer_Beginning_6@reddit
Oh man, don't be "that" guy. "I'm objectively correct" just makes you sound whiny. Let your words, which were clear and factual, stand for themselves. People are allowed to disagree on PERSONAL PREFERENCE, no need to tell yourself that you're right.
cosmos7@reddit
You shoot better than a 6 inch plate at a 100 yards?
D_S_1988@reddit
I can hit an 8 inch plate at 100 yards with a 9mm consistently enough. So to answer your question, pretty much yes.
cosmos7@reddit
So 8 MOA? You're missing the point... 6 MOA would work great for what you just described. Of course everyone has their own preference but generally you want the largest pistol dot you can, up until 6-8 MOA.
1-2 MOA is more rifle dot... if you're regularly engaging at 100 yards it's time for a PCC.
Significant-Ad-8241@reddit (OP)
Why are you only thinking about 100yd performance? A 6moa dot covers half the 6in target at 50yd.
D_S_1988@reddit
This guy gets it.
cosmos7@reddit
Only because that 100 yard number usually puts things in perspective for people of how silly it is to go smaller.
Significant-Ad-8241@reddit (OP)
Maybe for your own POU. Maybe a guy wants to run draw-from-the-hip squirrel-acorn hostage drills. Neither of us know the fellers POU and therefore it's a moot argument.
Significant-Ad-8241@reddit (OP)
The 2MOA is in stock at the same price
tjcarbon9@reddit
Couldn’t find the 2moa. Ordered the green version for $9 more
bigfatbeancan@reddit
I did the same. Not usually into the green dots, hopefully I don't regret it.
Significant-Ad-8241@reddit (OP)
Looks like they went OOS and Botach removed the OOS listings.
Longjumping_Item_722@reddit
Shoot, had it in my cart debating on snagging it. Should of pulled the trigger
tjcarbon9@reddit
Not completely disappointed. Just wondering how a green dot will look with co-witnessed green tritium sights. Guess I’ll find out! Thanks OP
goddamn_birds@reddit
6 moa is best moa
RebirthResurgence@reddit
I've purchased from botach as early as 2011. If it's a hot popular product they keep in stock, you're OK. For the rest, it's dropshipped, good luck on getting your order. They will mark shipped and if you contact they'll just offer a cancellation.
Also, watch the movie war dogs.
OsmosisChrohns@reddit
hmmm 6MOA for $269 or MRS for $335?
Baby’s first optic, looking at green. Mild astigmatism. Seems like the latter would be the best choice even if the middle reticle was splotchy? Would be going on a CZ P09F SR
Mahlegos@reddit
I have both the 6moa GR and the MRS GR, both Carry versions rather than this (the regular EPS will overhang your slide a little bit, but it also has a bigger window). Started with the 6 on my p10c and then grabbed an MRS when I saw it on a similar sale to this. I currently have the 6moa on my SP-01 and have the MRS on the p10 which is my EDC. Some will say it’s a gimmick, but I will say the solar adaptive brightness is convenient, automatically the brightest setting when I’m outside at the range or anything, and auto adjusts lower when it’s not as bright which keeps it from flaring out on me. I’ll also say I’ve been running just the outer circle because I find it quicker to acquire and it’s going to do the job at most reasonable self defense distances. If their center of mass is within the circle, you’re going to get good hits. I also have an astigmatism, but they’re well controlled with my glasses/contacts.
With this being your first optic, I think the bigger circle (with or without the center dot) would be beneficial, and as you become more proficient, you can switch to the center dot only down the road if you want. I will say, if you are going to run center dot only, I personally prefer 6moa on a pistol over 2moa, but that’s preference and both are usable.
OsmosisChrohns@reddit
I appreciate that! I actually just pulled the proverbial trigger on a 6MOA red, the price was great and I figure if it works for me I haven’t spent unnecessary dollars. That said, just using the outer circle sounds really cool and I’d love to check that out at some point.
Mahlegos@reddit
Right on, I hope it works well with your eyes. 6moa is a great all around size, good for acquisition and is precise enough for what you’re realistically going to be needing to do with a pistol. Work on your acquisition with dry fire drills and get that muscle memory down and enjoy.
radar1225S@reddit
I have a decently bad astigmatism and green has never worked for me in Holosuns. I’ve had a green 403, red 507 comp, and red 407k. Also a green Gideon Omega. Probably just my eyes, but much I prefer the red 6 moa in the 407k to all the others. Green was total opposite for me to what everyone else says. Burts worse than red.
Something to think about.
OsmosisChrohns@reddit
Damn. I’ve been researching and it seemed like green was unequivocally the way to go. I appreciate your input though! I’m still thinking MRS as my insurance policy, the 32MOA could at least help me find center I would think.
Red MRS shipped is $27 cheaper than green, maybe I’ll sit on it until this goes OOS lol
Mahlegos@reddit
Everyone’s eyes are different. As I just mentioned in my other reply to you, I have astigmatisms, but they’re controlled with my glasses/contacts. If you don’t have corrective lenses, or they don’t do a good job correcting your astigmatism (talk to you optometrist if the latter is true) then you will have to look and see what works best for you. Holosun also has a gold dot option (they just released in the EPS) that some folks like too. Personally I like green because my eye picks it up faster than red or gold. But again, everyone’s different.
CptMaxPower@reddit
I have not once seen everyone agree on what is best for astigmatism. I’ve found you have to look at it yourself. No one else has your eyes. You have special eyes, you might say,
MarlinMaverick@reddit
Same here, green dots suck for me
MarlinMaverick@reddit
MRS is incredibly overrated
OsmosisChrohns@reddit
What makes you say that?
MarlinMaverick@reddit
It’s completely subjective but I found the idea of having the dot/ring cooler than actually using it. I ended up just using the dot on my pistols.
mttwrrn@reddit
Busy reticle, it’s not necessary and not worth the extra cost.
NE30something@reddit
This is the best deal for brand new EPS I've ever seen openly advertised.
Recently bought both red & green 2MOA EPS full sizes from Primary Arms as "open box" deals (both ended up flawless on initial inspection) - would've rather paid roughly the same price here for brand new sealed from the factory.
QuiteFrankly13@reddit
Was trying to decide between this or a 507 Comp recently. This just made my choice for me.
TheBoogBear@reddit
Damn, really been wanting red 2 MOA
HRslammR@reddit
Can't decide on the EPS or EPS carry for my echelon 4.0c comp
Mahlegos@reddit
I have a carry on my p10c that is my EDC, I like it because it’s flush with the slide so doesnt add any width just height. According to handgun hero the echelon is .06” narrower than my p10 so it should hold true for you too. If you’re not worried about that or prioritize window size over that then do the EPS.
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EPS
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I truly recommended doing business with just about any other company.. Botach SUCKS
Airbus320Driver@reddit
Picture shown is the solar model, is that what’s being offered?
0samaismyMama@reddit
Pic is incorrect. The model number is for the standard EPS.
Airbus320Driver@reddit
Pic is wrong, description is wrong. No wonder this vendor has a low rating. Pass.
nubbinator@reddit
They'll probably sell it to you, then tell you it's out of stock and take a month to refund your money.
_That_One_Guy_@reddit
Damn, are they as bad as DACK?
goaty153@reddit
copped. Rolling the dice on a seller I haven't used in the past
ChemistIndependent19@reddit
They are solid. I bought three LE trade Complete Windham M4 uppers from them. They were described as "Used", but when I got them clearly none had been fired outside of the factory! They still have some left.
nubbinator@reddit
They're horrible. I bought from them in the least 6 months and I wouldn't recommend it. Hopefully it's actually in such, they decide they're not losing money, and, if they do cancel it, you get your money back quickly.
Capt-Matt-Pro@reddit
They've been around for 20+ years and I've seen complaints about them for 20+. But people keep buying because the deals are often really good.
nillyjay@reddit
I made a few purchases from them last year and didn't have any issues. I'd guess you'll be fine
XSXPatchXRX@reddit
In for an EPS Carry. Thanks OP!
osirhc@reddit
"Log in for special member pricing" but the price is the same after logging in?
heretobuyandsell@reddit
Botach took my money and still waiting for them to actually ship my purchase. Ordered over a week ago from them
LEADengine00@reddit
OOS
almightybytes@reddit
In for a EPS green 6MOA - $263 shipped is pretty decent
TapApprehensive2182@reddit
Competition like osight does make these cheaper
Next_Emphasis_9424@reddit
Seems like osight has come to play with their SE and S their new red dots, happy to see good competition. I'm old enough to remember when Holosun and even Vortex were questable optic brands.
Famanche@reddit
Crazy price. This would be a great price for a used EPS on tacswap, let alone new from a retailer. In for one.
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