Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6 Pro to feature LPDDR6 RAM, powerful GPU, primarily for ultra-premium flagships
Posted by Forsaken_Arm5698@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 40 comments
upbeatchief@reddit
Is ultra-premium code word for 3000+ usd foldables?
At the rate snapdragon flagships keep increasing price, the high/middle tier might be all mediatek devices.
ComfortableTomato807@reddit
8 Gen -> premium 8 Elite -> super premium 8 Elite Gen 5 -> mega premium 8 Elite Gen 6 Pro -> hyper premium 8 Elite Gen 7 Pro Max AI -> Megazord Premium
lukasleal22@reddit
Shit I will pay for that Megazord Premium if it's the best.
Glad-Audience9131@reddit
8 Elite Gen 7 Pro Max AI Ultra -> Gazilo Kilo Premium
DoughNotDoit@reddit
now we're talking!
DerpSenpai@reddit
It's code for "It's more expensive than the Snapdragon 8 Elite gen 5"
TheBraveGallade@reddit
I mean sansung has thier own fondeeies
Big_Anteater2498@reddit
The Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6 Pro looks like it’s being positioned for ultra-premium flagships only. Leaks suggest it could support LPDDR6 RAM, a stronger GPU, and possibly a 2 nm process, which should bring better performance and efficiency.
Because of the advanced hardware and cost, it’ll likely show up only in “Ultra” or top-tier phones, while most regular flagships may stick with the standard Gen 6 chip.
Glum-Beach@reddit
Ima use it to make a mobile gaming pc
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
Qualcomm will also give a choice to phone companies - you can either have active cooling, or choose to throttle by 70% in sustained loads.
Because our CPU architects are jumping ship and we don't know what to do other than target stupid clock speeds.
Geddagod@reddit
Don't worry, with the N2 node being a marginal frequency (Fmax and perf/watt) regression vs N3, Qualcomm won't be able to hide their design incompetence anymore next gen.
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
Their incompetence is why the rumors exist about 5 GHz clocks in a mobile phone.
Geddagod@reddit
Those rumors are wrong. The node can't hit that frequency, as I said it's a regression vs N3. Maybe Qualcomm will lower IPC significantly next gen to hit that frequency.
I also keep seeing perf/watt results showing Qualcomm's chips having similar or better perf/watt than Mediateks ones for the P-cores, while also consuming similar power at peak perf, despite Qualcomm's P-core boosting higher, but those are clearly wrong. Frequency is the only determination for power, regardless of architecture.
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
WTF are you saying?
Will this have the same problem of current flagship SoCs for Andorid where they claim 4000 points in GB6 ST but in the actual phones it is 3600-3800?
Geddagod@reddit
Read this post. Clearly Qualcomm can't hit those rumored frequencies anyway due to the node regression, those rumors must be false.
Since frequency is the only aspect that can impact power, for sure. Deff a Qualcomm specific problem as well, since stock ARM cores clock lower, they don't face this issue at all.
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
Are you OK?
Does paying your monthly bills hinge on leakers being right betting on the money you have to pay them with?
Geddagod@reddit
What about what I just said doesn't make sense?
I'm saying the leakers are wrong. Those rumored frequencies are not possible on the N2 node family, since it's too large of a performance regression vs N3. Go read the linked post.
But the leakers being wrong isn't my only point. I agree with you, Qualcomm clearly is incompetent, their focus on frequency has led their P-cores to consume far too much power vs their lower clocked x925 and C1 Ultra competition.
MissionInfluence123@reddit
What?
Their P cores perform slightly better at same power
https://youtu.be/YJaHi-gZESo?si=oz_1OADNkcFYnG98&t=90
Forsaken_Arm5698@reddit (OP)
Hmm?
Geddagod@reddit
I'm just jesting lol. This dude is the same dude who made the ridiculous "N2 is a regression in perf/watt and Fmax vs N3" post a couple months ago, which I linked down this thread. This is just his third? alt account.
Forsaken_Arm5698@reddit (OP)
I think something has to be said about the size of engineering teams. Can't quote an exact figure, but Apple's CPU team has thousands while Qualcomm numbers only in the hundreds as I've heard.
Geddagod@reddit
Could be, I would have no clue. But based on their products, Qualcomm's physical design team seems to be fine.
Something interesting is that they appear to be the first company to use finflex in a single core IP block, rather than using finflex for different IP blocks on the same SOC. By that I mean that the 8 elite gen 5 P-core uses 2 different logic libs in the same CPU core, something that, AFAIK, has not been done before.
And their P-cores seem to have an edge on area vs Apple's, even considering perf.
DerpSenpai@reddit
You know that in ST it uses the same power as Apple right? All phone SoCs throttle MT to some extent. They have different freq for those workloads.
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
Advertising a number and not being able to reach it - as shown by third party reviews - is the definition of incompetence.
All SoCs in phones throttle to some extent - true.
But there are SoCs that throttle by 20% and there are SoCs that throttle by 50%.
SD Elite Gen5 is an example of the latter.
DerpSenpai@reddit
They are hitting their numbers they advertised?
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
Show me a GB6 ST result of 4000 as claimed by both MTek and Qualcomm in an actual phone.
DerpSenpai@reddit
The GB6 ST result was for the X2 Elite Extreme
TwoTimeHollySurvivor@reddit
We're talking about phones, not laptops.
DerpSenpai@reddit
And I'm not seeing where they advertised that 4000 Geekbench score.
https://m.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_snapdragon_8_elite_gen_5_soc_features_specs-news-69656.php
Creative_Purpose6138@reddit
What generation are we currently on? Since they keep changing the numbers.
Tiddums@reddit
Snapdragon 8 Elite = 1st generation Oryon Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 = 2nd generation Oryon, coming out now Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6 = 3rd generation Oryon, will come out end of the year/next year.
The reason they changed the names is because they decided after the fact that they wanted to harmonize the numbering between the old flagships and the new ones.
Valterri_lts_James@reddit
this naming scheme is absolute dogshit. Apple's is way better.
FrenchDipsBeDrippin@reddit
Technically the X1 was first Gen Oryon and the first 8 Elite was second gen
Tiddums@reddit
Yes you are correct, I forgot that was a separate earlier core design. Increment all Oroyn generations in my post by 1.
Creative_Purpose6138@reddit
This is highly regarded
Ok-Government4664@reddit
thats all fine but wtf is that naming scheme
Loose_Skill6641@reddit
snapdragon naming confuses me so much I usually just ignore articles related to them
DerpSenpai@reddit
This is not a real name yet. Most likely it will be elite extreme
Forsaken_Arm5698@reddit (OP)
So they are skipping N2 and going straight to N2P? Interesting. But TSMC A14 isn't expected until 2028, so the 8 Elite Gen 7 will also be on the same node.
Geddagod@reddit
If TSMC A14 HVM in 28' is like N2 was in 2025 and N3E was in 2023, 8 Elite Gen 8 would be on N2P or some other N2 variant as well.