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What’s your opinion on a 4 day work week?

Posted by DemonikJD@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 155 comments

It’s been trialed, tested and analysed in various countries, including the UK with extremely positive results.

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No-Photograph3463@reddit

It would be great, but for what I do it just wouldn't work. I'm in a small company and we work hard so if your reduce working hours by 20% then we will be at least 15% less productive, as we don't have any of the corporate fluff or pointless meetings anyway which I'm assuming is what would get cut by going to a 4 day week.
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Patient-Seesaw2000@reddit

A better way of thinking of it is is that you’re the same level of productive, except your week now looks different. If you’re as highly productive and "work hard" as you say you are, this tells me you’re probably overworked. This is one of the main benefits of a reduced work week - the wellbeing that gives your team will likely unlock more efficient and sustainable productivity.
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SickPuppy01@reddit

It will cause massive headaches across most of the economy, because effectively you are giving some people a 20% pay rise and not others. Office workers maybe able to ditch pointless meetings etc and squeeze their work into 4 days, but what about jobs where the work is more physical? How does a nurse squeeze 5 days of nursing into 4. Same goes for fire fighters, police, drivers, factory workers and so on and on. If you let the managers and admin staff drop 8 hours a week without giving it to physical workers there will be mass industrial action.
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Patient-Seesaw2000@reddit

... you do realise these workers get an arbitrary 2 days off already? The idea is you just extend that same thinking but for 3 days off instead. Just treat the Friday or Monday like a Saturday re scheduling. It’s a weird thing to get your head around but once you’re in it the 5 day work week feels incredibly arbitrary and illogical (because it is!). Obviously for some industries you may need to hire a few more people but that feels like a net benefit to society overall. It’s god to remember the old adage of "work to live" - work/capitalism/productivity or whatever should flex around you, not the other way around. Generally this shit tends to just work itself out given enough time.
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weary_dave@reddit

I think it makes sense. I think it’s important to note that in most cases it isn’t as simple as only working 80% of the time, as staff work longer days for the four days they do work.
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DemonikJD@reddit (OP)

Not in most cases. The most successful runs of 4 day work weeks have been the exact same day 9-5 and not 8-6 etc to make up for the friday
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weary_dave@reddit

Apologies, I wasn’t aware of that. The only cases I knew of involved the staff making up the hours.
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LondonCycling@reddit

I believe it's been trialed, tested, and analysed in various countries, including the UK, with extremely positive results.
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thelatestmodel@reddit

And what do you think about Percy's new ruff?
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Doug66666@reddit

The ape creatures of the Indus have mastered this.
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AirHead4761@reddit

Ah, but can they make a very small casserole?
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Lawhead@reddit

I think he looks like a bird that's swallowed a plate, my lord.
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Consistent_Ad3181@reddit

It's a bit rough
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Joutja@reddit

Yet the bosses won't implement it. They are still struggling to get their head around work from home.
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jamjars222@reddit

And there's no chance it will be rolled out to the masses. The Government hate WFH so why would they allow a 4 day work week to become the norm? One day less for us to buy overpriced food from Pret A Manger
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expretDOTorg@reddit

... and one day less to get food poisoning from Pret A Manger. Customers post pictures of stale bread, mouldy food & rat poo on Pret food to social media: ↘️ [http://expret.org/2021/05/03/prets-food-isnt-fresh](http://expret.org/2021/05/03/prets-food-isnt-fresh) .
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Jimathay@reddit

I work for a company that trialed this. We've just made it permanent. Proper 4 day week (no making up the hours There were A LOT of metrics we needed to monitor. Staff turnover, sick days, workload (like number of clients per staff member), support tickets answered, response times to client queries, various employee engagement scores (how overworked do you feel? Do others respect your day off?), client satisfaction scores. I could go on. Every single metric trended positively. For example, sick days went down. Volume of support tickets answered went up. A lot of these could be tangibly tied to cost saving for the business too - like recruitment costs due to lower staff churn. Genuinely, if someone offered me double my salary, but back to 5 days, I'd turn them down. The extra day off is so valuable.
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weary_dave@reddit

Did you find that the number of days that you had for annual leave changed?
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nigelfarij@reddit

> For example, sick days went down By 20%?
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Nymthae@reddit

Are you keeping up the monitoring now it's permanent? I know one thing that has been questioned about trial periods is whether people really go hard to try make sure it's successful because they're obviously aware of it. I think you'd hope it would maintain off the back of the wellbeing side but wondered if it was under evaluation
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Jimathay@reddit

Yes we are. The big overhead is getting these things set up. Once set up, it's fairly easy to keep measuring, as they're useful business metrics regardless. The trial period was about 2 years. Intentionally so, for the reason you make out. It's a bit hard to keep up a pretence of success for two years. We also did a lot of leg work way beforehand around building the right culture, so we knew that (for example) we wouldn't have too many piss-takers.
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urdygurd@reddit

Sounds great. Just means an extra day I don’t get access to health care , shopping etc.?
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DemonikJD@reddit (OP)

How so? Most supermarkets are hell holes to work and already have different staff on different days so would still be open. NHS would be the same
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joshym0nster@reddit

I currently work 4 days a week, however they are 12 hour days, it's awful.
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Fit-Obligation4962@reddit

That’s not quite the same.It 37.5hrs over 4 days which would be most beneficial.
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joshym0nster@reddit

Actually 4 8hr shifts would be the best way, we work more hours now then medieval peasants, also if the work week was shortened it would create more jobs and boost the economy.
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drivers_license_cscs@reddit

Hello looking for any documents in Uk
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InfamousEvening2@reddit

Can't happen soon enough.
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istareatscreens@reddit

I don't really see it happening for a while as employers currently hold all the power. We did manage to move to a 5 day week a long time ago so clearly it is possible to change again. My prediction is that it will only happen when there is an acute shortage of workers and it is used as a recruiting/retention tool.
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DemonikJD@reddit (OP)

I joined a company a few years back and in my first week they said I had to put all of my holidays in the calendar for the year, I thought this was a bit ridiculous and didn’t have a definitive answer because certain holidays like Christmas relied on other people etc and this was like March haha I took every Friday off for 14 weeks until the company said I had to stop
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CheesePestoSandwich@reddit

Gonna consider this when I eventually start working
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Menorca-Blue@reddit

I don’t work Fridays. It’s a sacred time!!!!
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LittleSadRufus@reddit

I don't work Fridays. Can confirm it's bliss.
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thefogdog@reddit

I did this earlier in the year! I had paternity leave so had extra time from holidays, so I didn't have a full week of work this year until April.
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cuccir@reddit

Need to define terms a little bit. What campaigners are asking for as a "4 day week" usually refers to same pay but with 80% of the hours. A "condensed week" is also sometimes called a "4 day week", same pay but with 100% of the hours just done over 4 days (eg 8-6 for 4 days or whatever). The former should in theory be good for office-based jobs, the majority of which give people a set amount of work to do over a period of time (weeks, months), and where evidence in trials suggests that people can do as much in 4 days due to higher productivity coming from increased well-being. It's hard to see how it works in industries such as construction, manufacturing or service jobs without increasing costs though. The latter already exists as has done for a while in various sectors, works well for some people given their personal lives but is clearly not for everyone.
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Tattycakes@reddit

I know personally the last hour of the day, and the last two hours of Friday, are utter brain fail, I’ve reached my cognitive limit. I’d be happier and just as productive if I could clock off an hour early and half a Friday half day. I’m not sure how I’d do with a full day Monday to Thursday, maybe after a few weeks of 3 day weekends that would also work.
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Uelele115@reddit

One place I worked at institutionalised the latest meeting start at 14:30 and no meetings on Friday afternoon. We had someone convince people a meeting was needed at like 15:00 and it put things in perspective. Plus, had to redo the meeting in the morning.
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VegetableVindaloo@reddit

I know a manufacturing business that does the 4 day week as 8-6 with half hour for lunch, then if there is extra work on the guys in the machine shop do paid overtime. Seems to work and people are happy enough with the setup
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cuccir@reddit

Though that's the "compressed hours" version rather than the 4 day week proper. I can see how this would be beneficial in manufacturing industries where there may be delivery/cleaning/maintenance costs to firing up the machinery every day. If you can squeeze 5 days of production into 4 you could find savings.
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m0le@reddit

Re: the maintenance costs thing, it can actually cost to have the machines sitting idle (depends on the machines). I used to work in a printshop and the big industrial printers were a complete bastard to get running again after a day or two turned off - hour upon hour of jams and other problems. It didn't happen often as we were mostly a 24/7 shop but Xmas or other special occasions meant a painful day afterwards (particularly the older Xerox lasers, the bus-sized inkjets already took hours of cleaning each day so I'm not sure if their maintenance cycles got longer lol).
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Sly1969@reddit

I once had a similar arrangement at work. Four ten hour days with Friday and Saturday as overtime if you wanted it. It was glorious!
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wait_whut_@reddit

Still too many.
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DoctorOctagonapus@reddit

A full time salary for a part time job does sound pretty sweet.
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DoctorOctagonapus@reddit

4 days work for the same pay I'm currently on I'm happy with. Longer hours per day or a 20% pay cut can get in the bin.
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Sir_Faagalot@reddit

Cant pass judgment as i work less than that, but I have worked a 3 day week for the last 15yrs. Its fucking great.
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Geek-Of-Nature@reddit

It is the right balance. Any time we have a bank holiday Monday I feel ten times better, not just about working less that week but having a better mindset. I work harder, find myself more relaxed and have a more positive approach to life knowing that I don't have to cram every non-work chore and obligation into just two weekend days.
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thebigbioss@reddit

The only issue i have with the narrative is that it will be the mon-thurs. For me personally i would prefer tues-fri or having a wednesday off.
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Casual_Star@reddit

I’ve gone from 5 days to 4 days (40 hour week), and the difference is game changing. Having the additional day off is so good to allow for errands (haircut, appointments, shopping). We’ve rota’d it so we can have 4 on and 4 off in blocks. I can never probably go back to a 5 day week unless the pay is significantly better.
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PaulBradley@reddit

I'm doing it. It's brilliant. Once a month I get a four-day weekend.
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PaulBradley@reddit

And spending my holiday days intelligently means I get a three-day week more often than not.
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Particular_Meeting57@reddit

Was the happiest I’ve ever been when I was on a 4 day week.
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Affectionate_Comb_78@reddit

It's a few days more than ideal but I'll take it.
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StatisticianOne8287@reddit

I do it, fucking love it and wouldn’t give it up. Turned down an £8k rise to keep it.
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Clunk234@reddit

Very industry specific. In construction we are often restricted hours due to noise pollution and other issues. If they went down to a 4 day week, the self employed people would take a 20% pay drop and projects would take 20% longer.
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banxy85@reddit

Should be the norm. Better for productivity in theory. Better for work life balance. This two day off nonsense needs to die out.
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MrConor212@reddit

This. Two days off. First day I’m mentally drained so it’s basically one day off with Sunday and half of it you spend worrying about work on Monday again lol
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banxy85@reddit

Really though. But you spend half of it mentally and physically drained but also feeling guilty because it's the only time you've got so you should be being productive, running errands etc etc 😂 And if you take on any alcohol then you can just write off that whole weekend
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MrConor212@reddit

We keep prodding our company to do it, I’d happily work an extra hour or two a day to get it as my day is already ruined with work. What’s another hour or two to get 3 days off 🤷
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JazzyBee1993@reddit

I work 4 days over 5 (Tuesday and Friday are half days). I love it so much. Tomorrow I’m going to spend the afternoon gardening.
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PassDazzling@reddit

I'd be happy doing x4 10's instead of 5 days to 40hrs. It's more productive and gives a better work life balance. My current employer wouldn't even consider this but they also won't even consider a 1 day wfh a week.
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secrethedgehog5@reddit

Yesssss
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Demo_Bec@reddit

I know my employer would never go for it, but it would help tremendously with my attendance - I have a few health problems that require regular appointments - if I could schedule these on my day off I wouldn’t be out the office for hours on ends, going back feeling like crap all the time etc.
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IhaveaDoberman@reddit

It's great for office work. Wouldn't work at all for basically all other industries.
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BennyInThe18thArea@reddit

I'm a contractor so I don't want a 4 day work week as I'm paid per day. If I were to go perm, yes I would support it if I'm paid exactly the same as a 5 day week.
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PM_ME_UR_SUMMERDRESS@reddit

Surely you’d be paid more to compensate? Four day weeks are said to make up more productive.
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BennyInThe18thArea@reddit

Doubt it - companies are not going to pay a consultant more to do less days. They already paying high day rates as it is.
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PM_ME_UR_SUMMERDRESS@reddit

Applies to every role.
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BennyInThe18thArea@reddit

Comes out of different budgets though (Opex/Capex) so it’s not the same - every project will also have significant cost increase as you now paying £1000 instead of £800 day rates and leadtimes increased as you only have your SME available 4 days per week for input.
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PM_ME_UR_SUMMERDRESS@reddit

As I have said, studies say that four day weeks are more productive, cause you’re better rested and have a better attitude. There are industries where I don’t think it will work, but I don’t think that this is an example.
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BennyInThe18thArea@reddit

Studies have been with permanent staff I would assume - trust me I would much prefer a 4 day week but I’m realistic being a contractor. Majority of my time isn’t even “work” but just sitting on meetings and giving technical input.
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TheNorthernBaron@reddit

Aye, I'm a contractor as well. I can't see it working (however much I wish it would). People just want more work done. Well being hasn't been top of most employers agenda in my personal experience.
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gym_narb@reddit

This.
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GamerHumphrey@reddit

Please.
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BarraDoner@reddit

If pay remained the same it could actually be beneficial for the economy: the more free time people have the more money they’re going to spend whether it be on streaming services at home or going out to bars/restaurants etc. obviously with the cost of living crisis any extra spending is limited but if we ever get out if this mess an added day off for everyone is a lot more people out spending. I’m not saying the economy is the most important thing in this matter; but being beneficial to the economy with few downsides is the only way Government/Corporations would consider letting this happen.
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ScottyW88@reddit

That's only really true for the wealthy though, for someone making say the average £20-30k a year, they're probably spending it all regardless of how many days off they have.
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Zubi_Q@reddit

All for it! Hoping my company takes it on
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strawbebbymilkshake@reddit

It’s a great idea. Too many people think compressed hours are a 4 day work week tho
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Ok-Pickle1749@reddit

I wish I could
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spuckthew@reddit

As a salaried desk worker, 4 days with unchanged hours and pay would be sweet as. I don't think I've ever worked flat out for 7-8 hours per day for 5 days straight. In fact I rarely get more than about 5 hours of actual hard grafting done per day...and even that's probably being generous. Obviously some days are busier than others, but this is my general experience across 11 years working in IT anyway.
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markhewitt1978@reddit

A good idea in theory if it really means you have a 3 day weekend. Normally it means increased hours Mon-Thu and then Friday off. The fear is that you'll work those increased hours and then have to work Friday too.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

that would then be overtime so you would get paid more.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

Lots of jobs don't pay overtime.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

If they don't pay I wouldn't work them. I'm exchanging my time for money if you don't give me money I don't give you my time.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

Easy to say. Harder to do in practice in certain industries. It's quite standard in a lot of salaried roles. I've never worked somewhere that paid over time.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

I've never worked for anyone that didn't. Either overtime didn't happen or you only ran half hour or so over your shift and they just don't pay you for that. Anywhere I have worked had paid overtime sometimes at single rate but still paid.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

Sounds like you work in an industry where it's commonplace. But that's not reflected across lots of jobs. In a large proportion of salaried, office based jobs that's simply not how it works. You don't have shifts, there's no rate to pay at, ergo there's no concept of overtime.
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RottingPony@reddit

This is nonsense, I've never had an office job where I don't go home at 5, you're part of the problem by staying longer. Stop doing it. All your doing is pushing down your own washes (and those of your colleagues).
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imminentmailing463@reddit

The fact you've never had one doesn't mean it's not commonplace in certain industries. And yes, I agree it's bad. But your idea that someone working in those industries where it is common should just stop doing it is a quixotic one. You'd need collective action for it to be effective. If just one person does it, all that achieves is a negative impact on them and their career. If you're proposing we should have more collective action I totally agree. But, unfortunately, unionisation in the UK is low, *especially* in the sort of white collar professional industries where unpaid overtime is common.
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RottingPony@reddit

If you want to work for free, that's on you. But currently you're dragging everyone else down with you, work your contracted hours and no more without overtime, if you start doing it your colleagues will probably start doing it too, or go work for a non scumbag company that doesn't expect you to work unpaid hours to progress, collective action starts individually. I think the whole thing is a very boomer (yeah I know🙄) attitude to have and once they start leaving the workforce it'll get better.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

>if you start doing it your colleagues will probably start doing it too I think this is just a tad naive about how sectors where this is common work. If one person starts doing it, others won't necessarily follow them, at least not in any great numbers. For the obvious reason that people want to be viewed positively by senior people and they want to advance their career. It's essentially a game theory type problem. Nobody wants to be the one to take the risk of taking action. >or go work for a non scumbag company that doesn't expect you to work unpaid hours to progress, There are industries where it's entirely normalised, so it's not as simple as just going somewhere that doesn't ask unpaid hours of people. >collective action starts individually. It's not collective action if it's individual. Collective action, by definition, can only work if a group come together and agree an action and then do it collectively. >once they start leaving the workforce it'll get better. I don't think it necessarily will. It's cultural in certain firms and industries. And it'll continue to be after the boomer generation has retired. Also, even the youngest boomers are 57. The oldest are 75. That generation doesn't necessarily have an iron grip on management roles any more. Many of the industries where long hours are the norm have plenty of Gen X and even millennials in management positions. I think the cultural norm of long hours will outlive boomers in many industries.
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RottingPony@reddit

I've literally whinge enough at managers that they've banned people from staying late and working though lunch (I'm in finance). What you're saying is that it's completely fucked, and you won't even try to do anything about it, you're just going to keep working for free so you can get your promotion and keep everything under you working for free too? Why are you even in this sub?
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imminentmailing463@reddit

>ignore that last line I thought this was /r/antiwork That explains it.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

I work in IT support. It's office based and only has certain hours for support. Outside of hours put in for that overtime is paid. They would have to otherwise no one would do it. The customer gets charged for the hours so it wouldn't be right to not pass that on to the worker.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

Yes, I'm not doubting it exists in your industry. I'm just saying in lots of jobs it doesn't exist. In many jobs, salary is your salary and that's it.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

thats nuts. unless i was on stupid money there would be no chance of me working hours im not paid for. about the only exception i would make is if the company i worked for was struggling financially.
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imminentmailing463@reddit

It's easy for you to say that because you work in an industry where it's not the norm. If you work in one where it is, it's not nuts it's just a part of the job, and if you want to progress your career it may be something you just have to put up with. How often will depend on the industry and job. I'm sure there are things about your industry that you don't think are unusual than those of us in different industries would find nuts. That's just how it is.
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psycho-mouse@reddit

Hahahahahhahahahaha lol ok
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raceAround126@reddit

A friend of mine, we call him lucky git, works for a company that trialled and kept the four day working week. It's 100% pay, 80% hours. The staff had the option of missing Wednesday or Friday. Almost all opted for Friday but they had a mix in the trial group. The guys who took Wednesday off, although it was reported that there was an improvement in terms of performance, the highest performers were the Friday-off contingent. Since the last year or more, the company works Monday-Thursday with only a skeleton staff around on Friday to deal with customers and are paid overtime commensurate with the extra half days. Overall, performance has improved. The measures they used were output for their development and production staff, sales work an equivalent four-day week but the day is moveable or they can elect to give it up should they want to visit a particularly interesting client, the company has reported a total of three sick days across the entire employee base of approximately 200 since going to WFH / 4 days per week, only certain departments are required to be in-office (and it's where all three sick days occurred), to the point that they have let go of leases on three floors of the building they are in and only have a single floor now made up of half hot desks and perm desks and they struggle to fill that most days. Overall, the profits to the company have skyrocketed, people are happier with the vastly improved work/life balance, it's a complete success story. They are even looking how to convert the people in office into work from home types. The reasons they are in office is largely as their roles call for it and a handful who prefer the office as opposed to working from home. I often get emails from him about the cool stuff he gets up to. His fitness is much better, he says that he now has time to help kids with their homework tasks, he's started playing guitar in a band again, he sometimes takes the wife and kids off for a cheeky weekend away and has the actual time to recover from it, life quality has all very much improved all round. And while it sounds weird, to me his teeth look better. I can't quite explain it, but they are. To me, given that huge measure of success so personally close to me it seems insane that the UK are not doing this. This is just one company who have embraced the change whole heartedly and it's working for them. I floated this once with my board during a management meeting and was practically laughed out of the room. Some leopards will never change their spots. I was told my platitude was circumstantial at best and likely untrue. Meh, what can you say to that. I have told him next time there is a vacancy, even non management, put me up. Though I have been managing teams for my last four roles, I couldn't give a monkeys about reverting to a grunt if it meant that sort of benefits package. I have a feeling it will never be rolled out country-wide. There are too many haves and have nots as well as old school attitudes towards it all. It is a shame, but only the most progressive and forward thinking organisations will at least trial if not adopt the change.
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No_Tonight2356@reddit

If people spend as much time as surveys say pretending to work, we could get away with a 3 day work week not including retail
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northernbloke@reddit

I moved to a 4 day week about 8 years ago. I haven't worked a Friday since. I moved jobs about 6 years ago and somehow managed to negotiate the same working pattern.
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I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS@reddit

My employer talks about doing longer shifts over 4 days, to fit in the same number of weekly hours. Some people fancy another day off, but for me, having evenings to myself are more important than a random* weekday off when I'll just end up wanking or scrolling reddit. *you can bet your life the three days off won't be consecutive.
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Chilton_Squid@reddit

It wouldn't work for 90% of jobs so will never get major support from the public.
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Ghille_Dhu@reddit

Which jobs wouldn’t it work for? I work in a sector which requires 24 hour cover but it would work if you increased the workforce
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myblankpages@reddit

Increased workforce = increased cost = less competitive in a world market. One of my businesses would close, with production moving to its European sister company, as the staff here can't be 25% more efficient. Another family business has ran on a four-day week for a couple of hundred years: it is however not competing with anyone.
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Chilton_Squid@reddit

> it would work if you increased the workforce So how would this benefit the company? The four-day week thing only works if people are currently only working 80% of the time anyway and would work 20% harder if you gave them a day off. Shop work, teaching, 24-hour cover jobs - basically anything where you're being paid literally just because they need a human sat there ready to do something, it wouldn't work.
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FrenzalStark@reddit

Exactly this. I work in the education sector (non-teaching, although I do manage 3rd year uni students on work placement in my team) and cutting to 4 day working weeks is completely unviable unless absolutely everything goes to a 4 day week, which as many have said is impossible.
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Chilton_Squid@reddit

Exactly. You've being paid to be there when the students are, you can't just get to Thursday and go "oh well that's all the student needs done for the week" and take Friday off.
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Ghille_Dhu@reddit

I suppose one benefit may sit in lower staff turnover. Certainly a problem in care and teaching. Reduce costs in recruitment may offset the increased staffing costs. It would be worth exploring at any rate
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cmdrxander@reddit

I suspect plenty of retirees would also disapprove because they don't want other people to be happy
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delaquanda@reddit

Bad for productivity.
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Capheinated@reddit

You're absolutely right... Except for all the evidence showing its good for productivity.
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BiscuitBarrel179@reddit

Good for productivity in a few small select sectors or good for productivity in all sectors? Ypu also have to factor in if people are paid to do a job or paid for their time. If its job and done then obviously its better. I'm paid to be available for a set number of hours a week, if I'm busy all day or just waiting for a breakdown I get paid the same amount.
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Capheinated@reddit

Thats the sort of question that can probably be answered by reading the studies (or at least reports about them)! I dont actually know off the top of my head - i do know that the largest recent study often quoted had a mix of sectors and industries, but I dont know how representative it was of wider society nor what conclusions can be drawn from it.
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delaquanda@reddit

Evidence? I'm just speaking from experience.
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Capheinated@reddit

Its been well reported multiple times over the past few years, you can read into it further if youre interested: https://www.google.com/search?q=4+day+week+productivity+study
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SleepFlower80@reddit

Still about 4 days too many for me but until that lottery win comes in it’ll do, I suppose.
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Vitalgori@reddit

It is already happening for a lot of parents earning around 100k in London. Basically, it has become much better to work 4 day weeks for 80% pay, pay less for a nanny or childcare, make use of the 30 hours per week, and still work in a pretty well-paying field with a lot of other perks.
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WilsonSpark@reddit

What are the working days hours? I’d happily do another 2 days and have Fridays off
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BiscuitBarrel179@reddit

If you do 9-5 for 5 days a week, you will do 9-5 for 4 days a week. However, you have to do the same amount of work in those 4 days. You worker harder but for fewer days and have a longer recovery period. Its a system that can only work in very few niche jobs and certainly cannot work in the majority of industries.
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Nebelwerfed@reddit

If there is something that works, has positive results and has been tried and evidenced to work for the benefit of the general populace, you can guarantee that UK will not only not do it, but will actively oppose it and go in the opposite direction.
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RastaKraken@reddit

I've been working a condensed week, 11 hour days Mon - Thursday and having the Friday off. I've loved it, the two extra hours a day is when no one else is working, so I get so much done. Plus gives us some cover for our customers in different timezones.
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malewifemichaelmyers@reddit

Not short enough, I don't think anyone should have to work more than 20 hours a week.
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sputnick97@reddit

I work for a transport company and our boss decided he wants the office open 7 days a week, so me and a colleague split the weekends on split shifts, I work Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and he works Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 0700 - 1800 every day. ​ I am so happy with this arrangement, working 4 longer days is a million times better than 5 shorter days and I still get 2 days off with my partner as she gets Friday's off. ​ Happy days!
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kwakimaki@reddit

Fecking great. I work 12 hour shifts but 3 days on 3 days off. Love it.
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RainbowPenguin1000@reddit

People always talk about the “positive results” and no one mentions the companies who did this and had an increase in staff members taking time off work due to stress and anxiety from cramming 5 days of work in to 4. I’m not saying I’m against the idea but the debate should be balanced.
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cmdrxander@reddit

If you've come across any articles or studies highlighting this I'd be interested in reading them, to get a balance of opinions.
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ravenouscartoon@reddit

Unless schools are going to go down to a 4 day week I don’t care about it. So many jobs are shift work now, plus retail is still a 7 day work week for the stores, and to hit the 38 hrs to be full time it’s still basically a 5 day week depending on opening hours. The only people it will benefit are office workers. But then I wonder if banks, pharmacies etc will all go down to 4 day weeks. Which will then be even more of a cluster fuck to get to
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Exciting-Squirrel607@reddit

I work in finance, would love 4 days but with 5 days I still sometimes have to work late and other colleagues work on weekends. In a lot of industries it’s about paying your staff well but working them hard. 4 day weeks would only work in my opinion if it changed to employing more people in these industries but then paying them less, which I can’t see happening. I also think for it to be fully implemented there will need to be less of a focus on companies having to grow each year.
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PurpleEsskay@reddit

I think you're going to get different opinions based on what sector people work in. Office based jobs - works great. Contractors paid hourly - doesnt work at all. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be done however.
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thatpokerguy8989@reddit

I done it for 2 years. Still the same hours, just longer days. I used to do 6-4:15, mon-thur. In my own experience, I spent most of the extra time sleeping because I was so tired. I'm not a morning person and a night owl, so I never got much sleep during the week. I prefer later starts and doing mon-fri. For the actual work, I found it to be a bit more productive, because it feels like you have less time to do things even though its the same.
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Apprehensive-Rain957@reddit

We should totally do it.
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Natural_Anxiety_@reddit

The extra day really does matter, regardless of whether it's condensed.When I was a forklift driver I did 12 hour shifts 4 days a week and it was beautiful, that extra day have me the security to complete chores and errands to keep my house in order, get a haircut, wash the car, do all of the small things without having to meet any social obligations. When Ioved to an office job and started doing 5 days at 8 hours I was for sure less tired and strained day to day but I ost a significant amount of flexibility in my household when I have to cram all my time off into 2 days. Even doing something as simple as booking a GP appointment or going shopping becomes a chore because I have to fit them in at busy times when I have other obligations. I support the move to a 4 day work week and increased pay, I think it would make life significantly better for British workers and make us happier people overall. Im not an economist so I can't assess the impact there (and quite frankly, I couldn't care less)
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KeithMyArthe@reddit

The last 4 days after Sunday are the worst
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bife_de_lomo@reddit

I work a 9 day fortnight with contracted hours of 37.5, so the extra day isn't "free" like the other 4 day week trials. Compressing the hours this way has really suited me, I basically work an extra hour a day and take every other Friday off. If I were to compress down to a four day week I'd find that too much on a permanent basis, and it gives my team a bit or operational flexibility that not everyone is off at the same time. Obviously I'd love to have a 4 day week and reduce my hours, and the data on productivity looks positive, so I hope the trend continues!
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bucketofardvarks@reddit

This is the best balance for compressed hours I think, 8-6 can be a bit much 4 days in a row but 8-5 is far more manageable long term without losing your extra day off to "recover from working too long"
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spLint3r990@reddit

Been working 4 days a week (compressed hours) for nearly 2 years. Love it
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jcl3638@reddit

I work 4 days and if I ever have to go back to 5 I'll die
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rice_fish_and_eggs@reddit

Yes, we need Mondays off.
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CaptainPedge@reddit

Works great unless you are paid hourly. Then you get screwed
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The_Umlaut_Equation@reddit

It's the future, but there are powers that be that resist it. A certain subsection of the population seem to believe if you're not 100% productive all the time, it's because you're lazy. For instance, let's say you're 100% productive for 30 hours. If you can't do that for 40 hours, it's not because of limits of human endurance, it's because you're lazy. And because they hold this view, they effectively view it as stealing from them. No matter what evidence you show them of increased productivity, happiness, reduced turnover they will not accept it.
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spaceshipcommander@reddit

It should be the norm. 2 days off isn't nearly enough time to recover from the amount of mental stress endured during the working week.
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HanakenVulpine@reddit

If it's implemented correctly then I think it's brilliant! However my work decided that due to needing to cover all the shifts but not wanting the hire extra staff, that when they implemented a 4 day week instead of cutting hours they condensed them instead. This meant going from 8 hour to 10 or hour days for most staff, which is rough for a physically demanding veterinary job. They justified this as it meaning salaries weren't affected due to reduced hours, which I thought was the entire point of a 4 day work week! Some folk like it but these are majority younger staff members, while the older staff or those with kids etc have struggled. Some went back to their previous 5 days, while the others are holding out because the extra day off is very beneficial. I cut down to 4 days several years ago keeping the 'short' hours at a pay cut for my mental health. Since lockdown I had to cut again to 3 and it's been amazing for my body and mind... the bank balance not so much!
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OwletHurst@reddit

Anything that makes rich bosses cry is a good thing. Fuck 'em.
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destria@reddit

I've gone down to 4 days recently and so far, it's felt really good. My working days do feel slightly more constrained but not unmanageable, I just have to be more organised and conscious about my workload and deadlines. My weekends feel sooo much longer though, that extra day has been amazing for feeling recharged. I spend more time on my hobbies and seeing friends as a result. I've had mental health difficulties in the past and I think this extra day is really helpful for keeping on top of things that support my mental well-being. I can easily understand how the trials have produced such positive results for wellbeing and satisfaction.
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baxty23@reddit

I know regardless of effectiveness that we won’t get it in the civil service because the Daily Heil and the Express will scream so loudly only dogs can hear it.
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thisistom2@reddit

I personally think that 4 day weeks are great and should be the norm, but that condensing a 5 day week into 4 days is pointless for the company because productivity will be reduced even further than it already is in most 40 hour week jobs I’d wager that people would see an increase in productivity in a 4 day work week where you get paid for the 5 days without it being condensed - mainly a psychological effect of feeling appreciated/respected and wanting to work hard in return* *This is anecdotal ofc and would not work if your staff are lazy spongers or you don’t treat your staff well
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Madyakker@reddit

I work 4 days but still the same hours as I worked 5 days.
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balh1111@reddit

I work 3 12hr shifts per wk, It's amazing. I don't know how I'd manage going back to a 5 day work wk after 10yrs of this bliss tbh.
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Informal-Effective92@reddit

it would be great as it would give a day in the week to do bits and pieces that normally had to wait until the weekend. it would suck though if everything shut like it was a weekend but still good that you get 3 days to yourself.
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Traditional_Cress561@reddit

I work 5 days condensed into 4. It's great
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sideone@reddit

It would be great (if I were paid the same), but we'd have reduced capacity for support if someone was off every day. I'd probably rather have a 25% pay increase and work five days a week though.
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Small-Interaction733@reddit

I'm paid a day rate, so not a massive fan :D
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Unusefulness01@reddit

Would be all for this. Obviously not practical for all jobs/industries, but I would in theory be somebody who could benefit from this.
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mrhippoj@reddit

I work 4 days a week and it rules
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jpriv78@reddit

Ideal
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