What is your favorite enterprise backup solution?

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serverhorror@reddit

Why should you?

For the amount of money the license coats you can, likely, get a developer and contribute upstream.

Voila, support!

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You're framing it like "pay for support vs hire a dev", but that is not really about it. Enterprise is not just "support". It’s stuff that’s painful to build and even worse to maintain: database plugins with PITR, VM plugins, dedupe, high performing catalog, all the security features and ransomware protections.

Also "just hire a dev" sounds nice until that dev leaves or your setup becomes "that one guy’s system".

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serverhorror@reddit

Yeah, I don't think that these investments are worth the money.

I've never seen the return that these things promise, pay off. What I've seen is a whole bunch of money going into commercial support that was completely unnecessary. Contract language doesn't put the risk in the vendor. Implementation doesn't yield, significant enough, advantages. And we're not small. We do business in half the countries of the world. We run production plants where a power plant is built as a side project for the actual thing.

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rthonpm@reddit

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Full-Register-2841@reddit

If you' need to backup Linux environment Bacula is perfect. It’s rock-solid and scales effortlessly

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Middle_Rough_5178@reddit

I see a lot of people mentioning veeam here but wonder what do you guys think about its security as a Windows based system?

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sysadminbj@reddit

I still have an ancient IBM tape drive. Thing works great.

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Key-Brilliant9376@reddit (OP)

You're doing the Lord's work.

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sccoaire@reddit

We use Veeam Data Cloud for M365. It's the only product I have experience with. It works, but not without issues. It's very slow to load restore archives. It could be due to our large backups (we have about 70k users). We have about 15 backup policies running daily and one of them will fail randomly, and when I check the notifications area and click on Logs, all it says is "Overall status: Failed", no reason given which is useless for a "log".

Every once in a while when attempting a restore operation, it will fail and I need to create a support ticket which can take 3-5 days to get resolved.

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swissbuechi@reddit

Veeam and we're hosting our own Service Provider Console (VSPC). We using thsi for all our managed customers and i works mostly quite well. I'm currently also testing Cove from N-able to get rid of all the self-hosted servers but it's lacking features like AD object level restore, etc...

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ibringstharuckus@reddit

Does anything backup your 365 configuration?

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sryan2k1@reddit

Rubrik, it just works, and I don't have to manage a windows machine and/or storage myself.

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StunningBeat9392@reddit

What significant limitations? I'm testing the "software appliance" Linux image and thought it was pretty good. I still need to test other options, but I was looking veeam a lot.

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s0uthpar@reddit

This would also be my pick, but it can be considerably more expensive than Veeam. Since we can't justify the cost, we have Veeam for on-prem backups but use Rubrik for M365 backups.

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excitedsolutions@reddit

Bacula

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systonia_@reddit

General opinion will be veeam. It just works, but has basically no options. It's easy to setup.

I personally prefer Commvault, which is a bitch to set up and has a trillion of settings. But it can do absolutely anything you may ever think of. If it runs as you want, it won't fail.

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jpnd123@reddit

Veeam and Rubrik from my experience

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TxJprs@reddit

Cohesity

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itskdog@reddit

I use Redsitr as we get it free with our ISP as a value-add, provided we go for a 5 year commitment (which we were planning to do anyway)

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TechMonkey605@reddit

I have been using druvah lately, it’s pretty good but up front commitment needed

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ScarcityReal5399@reddit

Veeam for all. Using it for VM instances and file to tape. Recognized the tape library with no issues.

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dremerwsbu@reddit

Here's a helpful FAQ for MSP's looking at backup platform options:

https://wholesalebackup.com/msp-backup-platform-guide/

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MunchyMcCrunchy@reddit

Veeam just works.

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whatdoido8383@reddit

Veeam. I've been running it since version 7 and it's crazy how far they've come.

It's never let me down and works well so I've just stuck with it.

I use their cloud backup now too which works pretty slick too .

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Much_Cardiologist645@reddit

Veeam. Simple and easy to use.

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bamacpl4442@reddit

Honestly, I'm a huge fan of Veeam.

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Mister_Big_Stuff@reddit

I have experience with Veeam backup and replication for on premises servers and their MS365 backup product. Both are awesome.

For 365 backup, stay away from Spanning and Kaseya. Absolute trash.

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Ilrkfrlv@reddit

The ms365 on-prem backup is lacking, no real planner support for example. Afaik the cloud version is better though.

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bamacpl4442@reddit

I agree. Kaseya is hot garbage.

Veeam is great for onprem and M365, agreed.

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WMDeception@reddit

The Veeam dream! Druva pretty cool as well.

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981flacht6@reddit

I have Rubrik and I like it a lot.

Anyone ever use Dell Apex or Dell DataProtect w Wasabi cloud archive? I have a pretty good quote from them.

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1996Primera@reddit

I used to love veeam, but got burned too many times from their "syntetic backups & restores"

at least 3 times I had to do a restore, veeam had stated the sythns' were all good. but during a needed restore they failed.

so I still used veeam , but made my team HAVE TO ACTUALLY RESTORE the backups to test....havent had a issue since

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ironcode28@reddit

I might sound like a fanboy but I run infrastructure in Azure and use the native recovery services vaults. Been using them for two years and I test backups monthly and it’s been smooth the entire time. Backing up VMs, storage accounts, Azure SQL, etc and the native Azure backup solutions just work amazingly enough.

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fnordhole@reddit

Veeam

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Rekari@reddit

Huge fan of Veeam, switched a couple years ago from Quest RapidRecovery and haven't looked back.

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theoriginalharbinger@reddit

"Best" is not well-defined here.

Networker is amazing if you're tolerant of 1000+ page manuals per plugin and need to back up critical infrastructure.

It's not great if you just need to back up VM's on a per-image basis.

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tj818@reddit

I would go with CommVault, but I’m a little biased I worked there for over a decade. I now work for a company that is a Veeam shop and it’s much more straight forward, but it lakes a lot of the features that CommVault can do.

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a60v@reddit

I kind of hate all of them.

For file level backups, I liked (well, hated least) IBM Tivoli Storage Manager, but that was nearly a decade ago. It had a sensible command-line interface, and seemed to be both fast and reliable. Unfortunately, we got rid of it due to licensing costs.

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gringoloco01@reddit

That really depends on the environment. From an MSP perspective we see different setups depending on bandwidth, overall retention and size. Are they in the cloud or do they have a local onsite setup?

We have had pretty good results from Commvault and Metallic for CV for enterprise setups that require multiple layers to backup offsite with local agents onsite (keyword with CV is Layers) to Metallic which is great for O365 long term retention, legal holds and saving in overall application size. This is pricey but it checks all the SOX and IT insurance and DLP boxes.

If you have limited bandwidth Datto can provide a great local solution that does not hog up all the bandwidth.

Obviously cost is always a factor so depending on how much is in the budget Veeam and N-able are sort of less expensive but make sure you find out about costs to move data from hot to cold storage etc.

The devil is in the details so make sure you understand what the need is vs cost and network / server resources. Also if you are using Azure don't just assume everything is backed up by default. It is usually not. We have many customers say "it is in azure so sure its backed up." which is simply not the case. Same with AWS and Google.

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ElectroSpore@reddit

Backing up what?

My experience has been the more things that are supported the more bloated and complicated the product gets.

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Key-Brilliant9376@reddit (OP)

Sorry, Servers

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ElectroSpore@reddit

Are you a user/manager or a sysadmin?

That answer is completely useless for narrowing it down.