For anyone that did Jury Service, how was it like?
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Mainly looking for stories based on your Jury Service experience, and what the best and worst bits of it were - but any answer is fine!
JoeDaStudd@reddit
Did it about 18 months ago.
Spend 2 weeks on call with 2-3 days going into the waiting area each week only to be told to go home after it ended.\ On the last week we did get to see the inside of a court room however out of the 15-16 on jury service I wasn't picked so after waiting outside for another few hours I got told it had finished.
It's a shame as I was excited to do it, but then again the case did sound like it was going a sexual assault or worse so probably dodged a bullet.
rg06rg@reddit
When on call, did you / could you go to work? Or just waited home?
JoeDaStudd@reddit
They told you the days you were needed the day before or from about Wednesday afternoon onwards the following week.
Normally this was 9:30-10am start, however by early afternoon they'll know if your group is needed. In my case they told you you wasn't needed for the rest of the day and they'd tell you if you needed the next day.\ You get an email confirming this from the clerk.
On the days you weren't required to attend court you could go to work or just stay home.\ When told to start later or finish early you could go to work or go home.
rg06rg@reddit
Thanks for your answer. Also are you based in England? Or Scotland, NI?
JoeDaStudd@reddit
I'm based in England.
I used holiday allowance and booked the full 2 weeks off so I used the late starts and early finishes to do some DIY and gardening jobs.\ I could have tried to work in between but the weather was good.
It was annoying to use the holiday allowance, but mine reset about a month later so it wasn't too bad.\ On the plus side make sure you claim everything you can (time, lunch, parking, fuel, etc) and you'll get holiday pay plus the jury service allowance. It's not much but better than nothing.
BG3restart@reddit
A lot of sitting around to ultimately not get chosen.
rg06rg@reddit
Not at all? In 10 days? Im suffering the same..
BG3restart@reddit
No, there were four cases and juries were chosen for three of them over the first two days. The remaining would-be jurors were dismissed after 4 days when the last case didn't get to court after all.
rg06rg@reddit
Oh I see. Maybe soon I could be dismissed as well as new group will start next week.. I was excited to be juror in a case. But doesnt look like i will be for now..
Mediocre_Shallot1659@reddit
I have done it 3 times since the 90's, my last time was in late 2021, it lasted for 3 weeks with one case. I was proud of the unanimous guilty decision from my fellow jurors. The case was close to falling apart due to covid and someone dropping out due to what the case was about.
Kind of looking forward to getting called again.
Its a good experience but its a LOT of waiting around in the hope you get chosen, take something to read.
Admirable_Jacket8393@reddit
I was on a rape case last year, it was a he said/she said one. In deliberation we managed to get to 9 not guilty and 3 guilty, with myself being in the 9.
After 2 hours we were in an impasse, we returned to court, judge (technically he was a recorder) instructed us to go again and try to reach a 10-2 majority.
After further deliberation, and something I specifically said, the count became 8 - 4, so it ended up with no verdict.
Case has been going from court to court and still hasn't been resolved. I asked to be kept informed of the case going forward, which as a former juror you can do so. Was quite an experience.
MaximumScary1290@reddit
I have done it 3 times since the 90's, its a LOT of quiet waiting around, so take a book. The last time I did it (November 2021) it ended up being a 3 week case for a kiddie fiddler.
I still got paid even though I wasnt at work and you can claim expenses.
InvestigatorSoft3606@reddit
did it during covid times.
Good side - got me out of the house and off work for 2 weeks.
Bad side - for 8 out of the 10 days, I wasn't selected as a juror, so had to go in, sit in the waiting area for several hours, then get sent home at 2 or 3 in the afternoon once they were sure they didnt need to form any more juries.
Luckily they had decent wifi and I watched a load of netflix day after day.
When i did get selected for a case, it was super interesting. The case i was on was quite sad, but very clear cut and we all came to a verdict really within a few minutes.
Ilsluggo@reddit
Very informative one one hand. On the other hand, frightening that some of my fellow morons on the jury potentially hold sway over someone’s life!
Ok_Shirt983@reddit
I too was shocked by some of my fellow jurors inability to understand basic instructions and facts.
Conscious_Volume9966@reddit
Paid time off work to be nosy and in other people’s business? I loved it!
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
The compensation is an absolute pittance.
Ok_Shirt983@reddit
I am self employed and so got about 50 quid a day, but most of the people on the jury said their employers were continuing to pay them.
chris_567295@reddit
I've never done it but am always interested for this reason - paid time off to not do work, and instead pry into someone else's business!
Dimac99@reddit
Mine was a he said/he said assault and the quality of the so-called evidence was lacking, to say the least. No medical report, no forensics, but they did waste the time of an incompetent forensics person who told the jury that luminol does not exist, which is untrue (even if it's not quite the slam dunk of CSI). They didn't even prove that it was the alleged victim's blood on the single evidentiary item. The whole thing was a farce, a total waste of everyone's time and taxpayers money because two jakeys had a falling out and one supposedly punched the other. No big fight, no weapons, not even a photograph of a bruise, let alone any serious injuries.
The jury was split and a slight majority said guilty, plus that we not-guilty'ers should have no further say in whatever the further decision was (I forget now, the level of assault maybe?). He probably did do it but on the basis of being an absolute jakey, not because the evidence was beyond reasonable doubt.
I wouldn't say my faith in Scottish justice was rocked, but at 18 and from a "good" working class family from a nice area, I'd never had any contact with the criminal justice system and probably had a bit of an idealistic view of it. Juries are made up of biased muppets, professional people can lie on the stand and get away with it, and the stupidest cases can end up in court with no evidence and still get a conviction.
tokyo2saitama@reddit
It wasn't so bad. It was a bit of a "boring" crime, nothing violent, which I was relieved about. The guy on trial represented himself and was a bit of a knob so we had a giggle about him among the jury. One of the younger guys on the jury asked me out on the last day and we went on a few dates haha.
Widget_widge@reddit
Pretty reasonable. First day we all sat around and did nothing. 2nd day the jury were picked and straight into the court proceedings. Couple of days of evidence then we spent 3 days debating it. The debating part was in a fairly small room with all your fellow jurors and was relatively intense, as it should be. Intriguing to see the difference in opinion to exactly the same information and evidence thats provided.
Days were 10-4 with an hour lunch and a break in my case. I thought a worthwhile experience.
darthrich@reddit
Pretty dull. Sat in a room for 2 weeks waiting to be called. Ended up in a courtroom but wasn't selected.
SemiproRock@reddit
I quite enjoyed it, it was a drugs case that had been in the news after a police armed response unit stopped them. Not going to say any more than that other than one of them should've gotten off, given that there wasn't sufficient evidence. I tried explaining this to the other jurors but I think they just wanted to go home. Convincing 10 people isn't as easy as "12 Angry Men" makes it out to be.
TulipTatsyrup@reddit
I work for the NHS.
Middle aged White woman
Disregarded from service on three juries.
Two weeks sitting on a sofa listening podcasts on full pay.
10 out of 10 would recommend
PageStillNotFound@reddit
Boring, but I got a lot of reading done. Was finally called on to the most boring case in the world, all about low-level bookkeeping fraud. Was genuinely hard to stay awake while the accountant witness (who was dodgier than the defendants, as it turned out) was taking us through his insanely over-complicated system. Had to keep reminding myself there were people’s livelihoods at stake to try to stay focused. Everyone had previous convictions for dishonesty EXCEPT the defendants. We took less than an hour to find them NG.
Hubble_bubble753@reddit
I was surprised at how flexible the court was for personal matters - had a juror need to start late one day because they'd had their driving test booked a year in advance and the judge was like "sure let's start at 11 tomorrow".
I was also surprised at how we can all listen to the same information and come away with different understandings and interpretations of the evidence presented.
The staff were all very kind and helpful. Pack your own lunch and snacks because the offering isn't always the best.
I found it extremely weird being in this closed environment for several hours a day, listening to intense information, then going home and just...not discussing it? The case I sat on was a little heavy so it was difficult to unwind/decompress without an outlet.
Overall it was a positive experience, I'm glad I was able to serve.
chris_567295@reddit
That is nice to hear they respect you as a volunteer and an individual, and not just a number between 1 and 12.
ysabellatrix@reddit
It’s a lot of waiting. If you love to read, then it’s a great place. You’ll either be selected for a couple of small cases or a large one. Mine was a huge drug bust that took 7 weeks to finish.
andrewscool101@reddit
That's an easy Not Guilty in my books.
Quality_Cabbage@reddit
Mine was possibly unusual as it was for a coroner's court hearing rather than a criminal trial. It was pretty interesting, although the case was sad. A lady had taken her own life in a psychiatric hospital and, as she had died under the care of the state, it automatically went to coroner court. My fellow jurors were a mixed bag but everyone got involved and made useful contributions. One lad didn't seem the brightest but he had worthwhile input and was given the chance to put his thoughts across, just as everyone else was.
SidewaysSky@reddit
I expected to hate it but, although i did find it a little bit stressful, I actually thought it was an interesting thing to be a part of and wouldn't mind doing it again. I was on cases every day for the whole two weeks (apparently there's a backlog so its busy) but even then there was a lot of waiting around. A lot of late starts and early finishes tho which was good
_DG____@reddit
Rubbish I didn’t get a case - just sat around. On days they knew I definitely wouldn’t get a case they sent me back to work. Actually, I did get one but it was cancelled due to the guy not turning up or something. I can’t quite remember but the trial didn’t happen
Practical_Bitch@reddit
Boring. And cold.
AshamedQuail4@reddit
Loved it. I was really lucky to have been put on a the jury for an interesting (although quite harrowing) case. Learned a lot about our legal system and came away with quite a strong sense of civic duty and community. Having the time off work was a plus, too.
Murfsterrr@reddit
Shit and boring but I get why it has to be done.
T_raltixx@reddit
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T_raltixx@reddit
I'm doing it in March for the first time.
Figgzyvan@reddit
Benny from Grange Hill’s name was called out when they were doing the first register of all of us. He wasn’t there.
Menyana@reddit
There was a lot of sitting around and repeated arguments over the same things. It was tiresome.
It was also frustrating to believe the person was guilty and see him get a not guilty verdict. It was upsetting to see the victim receive this news.
-whichwayisup@reddit
Personally I found it fascinating, watching how the English Judicial system works. As others have said it can involve a lot of waiting around.
Evening-Web-3038@reddit
I did it at the peak of covid, and it was a bit funny with the restrictions in place.
The 'waiting room' was a huge space which resembled an airport waiting area spanning multiple gates, but it was at like 20% capacity (thank fuck! Looks like it would be stressful as fuck at full capacity). And they had a "one way" system meaning you had to walk the entire length of the room just to backtrack in order to go the toilet (I sat next to the start of the one-way so I could just sneak out the wrong way lol). The perspex glasses separating my fellow jurors was also funny, and how the fuck that was gonna protect me from Covid I have no idea! Lots of standing 2 metres apart and blocking doors, seemingly pissing off the judges (or whoever they were in the private offices!).
But the court cases were interesting! I won't go into any specifics but I see news articles about how 'problematic' it is that juries tend to find crime X as 'not guilty' a lot of the time and I have a deeper understanding as to why that likely happens....
stoodincrap@reddit
Horrifying. You are potentially going in and hearing about cases in incredible detail that you’d never want to know or imagine. I hope I never am asked again.
heartthump@reddit
Insanely boring. The case I was a jury member on had so little evidence against the defendant and he was obviously not guilty from the beginning. A huge waste of everyone’s time and made me lose a little faith in the police and the justice system
I can’t go into the details but it was a drug offence, trying to allege this guy had possession with intent to sell cocaine. And it wasn’t a small amount of cocaine but clearly not enough where he was planning to sell. No text messages which suggested he was selling cocaine either, but he had already pleaded guilty to selling weed and had a huge amount of it seized.
Imo just trying to stack charges onto a guy for no discernible reason
EmergencyAthlete9687@reddit
I've done it 3 times. Very interesting experience. Jury dynamics much more important than it should have been on 2 of the occasions
idontlikemondays321@reddit
95% waiting around and very short times in the actual court room. First time was about 15 minutes whilst they read the charges and the jury swore in. Second time was another 15 minutes. A few questions for a witness and then the judge had somewhere else to be. Whole jury was discharged as a fellow juror vaguely knew somebody in the courtroom. Seems like a very ineffective cost system.
Jumpy_Imagination208@reddit
I loved it. The judges were all lovely, and explained the process. The court marshals were also really helpful and did what they could for us.
We went through security every time we entered the building, the security all seemed really nice. We got a letter before hand explaining that metal cutlery wouldn’t be allowed (so I bought plastic), and they make you take a sip from your water bottles.
Day 1 - we waited around waiting to see if we got picked, I think we started the trial after lunch. Before hand the two sides and the judge were agreeing to what could be released to the jury (ie what was relevant to the trial etc).
The next few days we were straight into the trial.
I found it really interesting.
When it came to our decision the judge was really clear that by “no reasonable doubt” they didn’t mean that we needed to see CCtv of the crime, we just need to believe that the crime did take place.
We were then told on that day that we wouldn’t be needed on the next day, and they’d text us about the following Monday (which they did). We did come in and have to wait around all day. It wasn’t until the following day that we had another trial but it was also really good to have the time to chat to our fellow jurors. I actually think we all got on quite well.
We were given the forms to claim back travel costs and expenses.
I loved it and would love to be chosen again.
dgraveling@reddit
I enjoy it love being nosey 😁😁
Jamjar2023@reddit
Went for two day, accused pleaded guilty and was sent off.
Important_Highway_81@reddit
Very, very boring. Sat for a week, the one case that I was likely to get on changed their plea at the last minute, the only other case was one that was likely to be several months in duration so they asked for people who would be willing to sit on it, and tempted as I was I didn’t think my employer would have been massively happy or continued to pay my full wage (as this was discretionary) and the expenses/loss of earnings the court pays wouldn’t have made up for it so I declined. Take a good book!
Blandiblub@reddit
It was duller than I expected. Lots of sitting in the jurors lounge thingy, waiting to be called for a case. Did my two weeks, never finished a case. It was twenty five years ago so my memory is sketchy but I think one case never got started and the other, the closest I got to doing anything, was abandoned as a mistrial part way through (it was about a fight in an Indian restaurant).
Remember wanting to take the atheist pledge thing instead of anything religious and having to stand and be asked by the judge as to why (it was fine, he just wanted to confirm that, but slightly scary to speak in front of the whole court!).
repair-it@reddit
Very interesting, learning how the legal system works. Like anything it's not perfect.
Take a book to pass the time when waiting around.
Dazzling_One_4335@reddit
A week off work with free lunch and a (thankfully nothing gruesome) crime to analyse - absolutely loved it!
bluenosekev@reddit
Have been picked twice, loved it both times, and got lucky with being on cases from the first day both times ,only spent half a day sat around overall
PipBin@reddit
I’ve done it twice.
There is a lot of sitting about, a huge amount. Often you will get there and be sent back for the day.
PropriaCures@reddit
Overall positive. Was dreading it initially (freelance/self employed so was fearing getting trapped in a long case which wold have meant significant loss of income). Was called up to a court quite close to where I live so didn’t interfere with parental duties. WiFi was good and was always able to work in the jurors lounge. Court is lovely old building but falling apart. Interesting to see the jurors which to me seemed a perfect cross section of society. To pass the time people actually started doing the (incomplete) jigsaw puzzles provided, also saw people knitting and participated myself in a few games of cards (scabby queen). Ended up being selected for a case in week 2 and was excited to be part of a case only to be let off as supernumerary (they select 15 ppl to ensure juries can be deselected, often if you know the defendant or are familiar to the location of the crime). In the end managed to work all my hours and cashed the expenses (about 60£ a day). So did see the whole inner workings of the court (see the judges, barristers and ushers do their work). Would definitely do it again (hopefully not self employed then) and be part of a case.
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queefybean@reddit
A lot of sitting and waiting around from memory. Make sure you take a book, games console, headphones etc. the court process was pretty interesting, though thankfully the two cases I got were pretty tame
Competitive_Test6697@reddit
Did mine during COVID so was in a cinema with cameras everywhere.
Just sit, listen to everything and remind yourself that you aren't a detective. Get the facts in order and make a decision based on that and not your heart or morals.
Mines was a male brought a knife into a cinema. Said it was for cutting fruit 😂
nothingnew09876@reddit
I wasn't a massive fan of it to be honest, and the worst part was when they said guilty.
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