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Mexico bans vapes. Cartels take over the market.

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natermer@reddit

Asinine. Vapes is the single best invention in the past 20 years for lowering the rates of cancer. Far and away outperforming every other tobacco quitting product or cancer treatment out there. The medical establishment was literally promoting drugs that literally caused people to commit suicide. When combined with relatively small amounts of drinking it would lead to people wandering around in their sleep doing insane shit. Side effects listed on the labels of these "smoking cessation drugs" was "suicidal thoughts, hostility, aggression, and psychotic reactions.". Some of them caused seizures and had hugely negative interactions with commonly used drugs. This is the shit that was being promoted by the "medical establishment" over vape products. And the governments are doing everything they can to reverse real progress and deliver the entire market into underground crap from China instead of allowing a healthy domestic market to flourish. All because it wasn't their idea first. Nicotine isn't even known to be carcinogenic itself. It is the burning of the plant matter and the dozens of other chemicals they add to tobacco products to increase its addictive properties is the primary source of lung cancer. Nicotine is addictive and that contributes to smoking habits and Nicotine is suspected in having stimulating effect on tumors, but it is unlikely to be the cause all by itself. This is 100% purely a case of bureaucracy running amok. Decades ago anti-smoking crusaders got governments to dump millions of dollars into creating vast bureaucracies to regulate tobacco products in motion. And now they just exist... perpetuating themselves uselessly. Much like a cancer tumor themselves. They exist, they feed, and they regulate mindlessly. This sort of crap is all over the place. Zombie administration agencies are all over the place and are a constant in all western governments. They implemented these vast administration agencies and set them into motion and they just continue on and on and on forever. There is no ability to curtail them or remove them or reform them or fix their policy agendas in the face of new technology and better science. They were created to solve problems that existed 30 or 40 years ago and now that they are in motion they just continue on like mindless robotrons. Just steam rolling over everything within their mandates. Regardless of whether or not it makes sense or continued effectiveness.
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mountaineer30680@reddit

I'm a recovering addict of drugs and alcohol. I've been sober over 14 years but one thing I absolutely couldn't drop was cigarettes. I tried everything I could find, from prescription drugs (and yes, they made me miserable) and every nicotine replacement available to hypnosis and acupuncture. Nothing could stanch those cravings. Then a buddy suggested I try vaping. He let me borrow an old one he had. This guy smoked 4-5 packs/day. He made my 1.5-2 pack/day habit look positively pedestrian in comparison. It took about 3 months to completely quit and I haven't had a cigarette since 2014. I thought it was just smoking by another name until I started looking into it. There's actual, legitimate research if someone cares to look. And anyone who has smoked any length of time (25 years here) and switched can tell you it makes a massive difference in your life from the reduction in upper respiratory infections to the fact that everything smells better. But government doesn't get a big enough piece of the action, I guess.
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BigTimthepeasant@reddit

Almost as if Mexico has a habit of doing this. Throughout thier entire history. C'mon guys this is by design they banned it so the cartels can sell it at a markup and give the government more money then they would get from taxes. And if you speak up about it and make enough noise. Your head is found on a car roof.
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UnklVodka@reddit

But wait, that would mean the government and organized crime would be working together. That is impossible. Government doesn’t do things like that, ever!
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mountaineer30680@reddit

If I had the skills I'd make a "they're the same picture" meme with government and OC...
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The-Fat-Matt@reddit

How could this have happened? ![gif](giphy|uYR7tbdSTh110lcYzp|downsized)
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SerenityNow31@reddit

Why in libertarian?
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Cyclonepride@reddit

Yep, use the dangers of illegal products as the excuse to ban legal products, and people start using all illegal products. Brilliant
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Mexani@reddit

I mean the Mexican government is basically controlled by the cartel
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Nero8762@reddit

Mexican government = cartels for as long as I can remember.
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BlindTiger@reddit

Same thing with Cuban Cigars. Except technically they aren't banned, but the Cartel will fuck you up if you're selling them. Except for Oxxo, they're allowed.
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ScalpelMine@reddit

What? A banned product shifted to the black market? Im shocked. That has literally never happened before.
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MarquisDeVice@reddit

Einstein's definition of insanity comes to mind.
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HotFoxedbuns@reddit

Must be on purpose at this point
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Alternative_Bite_268@reddit

They have a 35 $ tax here in Summit County, Colorado, and there is a thriving black market. They want people to live healthy but it kinda seems like more people use nicotine. So it kinda seems like it’s back firing. It’s also kinda wild that they over look marijuana.
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returnofthewait@reddit

This article reads like a propaganda piece.
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gwhh@reddit

The free market.
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Solaire_of_Sunlight@reddit

“Without regulation cartels would take over the market!”
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Shady500thCoin@reddit

Mexico has legal anabolic steroids but they draw the lime at vapes lmfao
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thinkbox@reddit

With how corrupt the government is there, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was intentional to push more business into the cartels control.
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ItShouldntBe06@reddit

This is why the government shouldn’t intervene on the free market.
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dirtyasseating@reddit

If it's good enough for Sean Hannity to hit every break then... I'm really not sure where I was going with this.
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