RTX 5070 vs RX 9070 XT 16GB - Need Help Deciding

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MagicPistol@reddit

When I switched from the 3060 ti to a 3080, I saw a 50% improvement. When I upgraded recently to the 9070 XT, that was also basically 50%. That would be like 2X performance for you if you get the 9070 XT.

I don't regret the switch to amd at all. Playing cyberpunk at 1440p, I can get like 180-200 fps with fsr4 and frame gen, and the frame gen feels smooth. With my old 3080, I think I only got like 70-80 fps with similar settings.

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Muthanna99@reddit

I entered this post because I am thinking of buying new GPU and its between 9070 XT or 5070.
But I saw ur comment and I decided hahahaa
I had 3060ti then switched to 3080 and sold it yesterday

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Admirable_Bug_7867@reddit

9070xt of course, I would even get the rx 9070 if it was the same price as the 5070, the only reason I got a 5070 was because it was significantly cheaper than the 9070, the 9070xt is much closer to the 5070ti than the 5070

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Longjumping-Fee-4235@reddit

Quick question. I have a 5070. Is it smart to upgrade to 9070xt? I bought mine around 550euros and I saw a 9070xt around 699euros

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Admirable_Bug_7867@reddit

I would say no, because you have to resell it and then buy the 9070xt and the price difference isn't that small, it was 50 to 100 euros difference then yeah but 150 euros extra is quite a bit more

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Appropriate_Rise_388@reddit

what about trade? i have a 5070 and someone is trading the nitro+ 9070xt should i do it?

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Admirable_Bug_7867@reddit

I think the the rx 9070xt is a better card but I would be worried why hew wants to trade it

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

100% Altså RX 9070XT er bare en del hurtigere og kraftigere. Det er et voldsomt godt kort og det er RTX 5070 da også, men det er slet ikke i samme klasse. Så skal du op i 5070 ti eller 5080 for at få noget der kan følge med 9070XT, så der er slet ingen tvivl....

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Yeah I Was rly suriprised that the AMD cards didnt go up in price, like 3 months ago when I was decided for the RTX 5070 it was quite cheeper than the 9070XT, now they are the same price. So most likely I will go back to AMD once again:)

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Rich_Consequence2633@reddit

Where are you seeing it at the same price as the 5070? The cheapest 9070 XT I see is still $150 more.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

alza.cz :)

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Admirable_Bug_7867@reddit

you should bro, the dlls and frame gen stuff is a nice bonus but when you have something that trades blows with the model up you should get that one, I would've even paid a little bit more for the 9070 but it was just too much more here and the 5070 is already a little overkill for me

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Yeah, for some reason, the 9070 XT version is even cheaper than the 5070 as I found now, and 5% pricier than the non XT version. So yeah I guess 9070 XT it is!

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DonerTheBonerDonor@reddit

How much were they for you? I'm kicking myself for getting a 5070 for 535€ instead of a 9070 for 599€ or 9070xt for 649€ but in the end it was the best deal imo

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Admirable_Bug_7867@reddit

for me I got my 5070 for 1,000 nzd while the rx 9070 was 1,300 or so and I think the xt was closer to 1500 though it seems like there is now a xt on sale for 1350 nzd

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F1T_13@reddit

No amount of DLSS, MFG, PT wizardry or anything is going to make up that raw performance difference. Get the 9070XT.

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samusmaster64@reddit

Depends on the title, but generally speaking yeah. With DLSS 4.5, certain games can be run at the DLSS Performance setting and look better than FSR Quality, which would be a net gain for the RTX 5070.

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b16ZZ-@reddit

That's why I'm debating this same question rn. I'm currently playing Clair Obscur with a 4060 at 4K and DLSS ultra performance at 4K looks better than DLSS quality at 2K, it's insane. A bit of Frame gen and it's been very playable with most settings on high. DLSS is kinda crazy ngl. Even with FSR4 idk if the raw performance of the 9070XT could keep up with that DLSS ultra performance magic.

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ankit_saiyan@reddit

I find it really hard to believe that it looks better than 2k and ultra performance. I have seen a video where RTX 5080 gives the same FPS in Witcher 3 next gen as RX 9070 XT.

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b16ZZ-@reddit

You definitely don't know what you are talking about. DLSS is looks better than native, most gamers and critics agree on that nowadays. Their anti aliasing is that much better than the native AA used in the past.

I'm not saying that DLSS Ultra Performance in 4K was better in terms of detail retention, like the lil particles and effects, but it was DEFINITELY sharper overall than DLSS Quality at 2K. I was flabbergasted and ended up playing the whole game like that.

DLSS 5 is also set to change the industry, that's why I'm kinda hesitant to go for AMD. I'll probably end up going for an AMD GPU next year anyway but we'll depending on how NVIDIA does. They also have a new neural compression tech that seems pretty cool and is supposed to compress used data used on VRAM. They've been two steps ahead of AMD for too long, unfortunately.

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The3rdGodKing@reddit

How are you playing 4k on a 4060, I mean I only have a 3060 but even I have to watch the VRAM on some games?

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b16ZZ-@reddit

Some do just fine with 8GB VRAM with upscaling and sometimes X2 Frame Gen.

Clair Obscur took DLSS Ultra Performance and FG to run at 50/60s with some dips here and there, but it was very very playable. I'm usually pretty sensitive to latency but honestly didn't feel any more than normal. Granted, it's a turn based game, but I didn't miss my parries and dodges because of it at all.

Some games do well like that, some are really difficult to run even in 1440p.

I also played Star Wars Outlaws at 1440p over 70/80 FPS balanced and FG and it was pretty damn good.

Destiny 2 is playable over 60/70 at basically max settings 4K. I don't think I ever saw it under 60FPS.

Riders Republic is great at 85% res (of 4K)

Ghost Recon Breakpoint was over 70/80 at 4K balanced settings and a little NIS+Frame gen.

Anyway... It's doable. It's just not plug and play right away, you gotta explore your options.

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Mythicalcyber@reddit

So, if I mix the 9070xt with an i7 14700F, will it be good for gaming and programming?

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Mythicalcyber@reddit

so if i mix the 9070xt with a i7 14700F will be good for gaming and programing ?

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Conspicuous_Ruse@reddit

I got a build with a 9070XT just before Christmas and it has been great.

I played through Cyberpunk with ultra graphics and path tracing turned on without any issues. Average fps was 129.

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Initial_Policy1556@reddit

With fsr/framegen?

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manmeetdiv@reddit

most likely

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Initial_Policy1556@reddit

Yeah sounds like either that or 720p monitor

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Latter-Drink-5813@reddit

what resolution?

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Conspicuous_Ruse@reddit

Paired with 7800X3D

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Latter-Drink-5813@reddit

dope

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Existing-Ad6528@reddit

I'm facing the same problem as well, qanted to get on streaming so considering the 5070 but I just had to add like 10usd to get a 9070xt

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VoraciousGorak@reddit

5070 non-Ti? For the same price as a 9070 XT? Get the 9070 XT for sure.

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SeaworthinessFew2235@reddit

what about 9070xt for $950 and 5070 (asus dual 12gb) for only $840?

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VoraciousGorak@reddit

Are those USA prices? Those are atrocious if so.

If those are fair prices for your region, 9070 XT.

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aigavemeptsd@reddit

If you want to do AI related stuff with Stable Diffusion, the 5070 is clearly the better choice. Which is why I'm still undecided in terms of upgrading.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Yes, normal RTX 5070 or the 9070 XT for the same pricing. The prices of NVIDIA got up but the AMD stayed the same this month.

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MikkeVL@reddit

In that case absolutely get the 9070xt provided you have a 750+watt psu or atleast a high quality 650 with a lower power cpu.

Current gen AMD has frame generation although it's a bit worse latency wise than the nvidia version and you can't do multi frame gen like 4x but it's for sure usable in single player games.

AMDs dlss equivalent is very good as long as the games support the latest version or good enough if it's the second newest.

Ray tracing wise the 9070xt will match a regular 5070 in most games whilst being 20-30% faster when not using RT.

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Dzeeraajs@reddit

If anyone is wondering or deciding because of their PSU - 9070 xt is working fine on my 550W PSU.

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Nighthawk321@reddit

What CPU are you working with? Just picked up a 9070 xt and debating if I need to upgrade my PSU as well.

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ChonkyHousePanther@reddit

That’s great to hear! Or uh, read. I also have a 9070xt but pair it with a 7600x3d which has a really low power draw, what CPU are you using?

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Dzeeraajs@reddit

Sorry for late reply im still only on 3600x

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Dangerous-Seaweed616@reddit

isn't that a crazy bottleneck? what resolution?

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Dzeeraajs@reddit

Its at 1440p. Comparing with benchmarks it is definitely running worse than it could. Bought it because prices were starting to rise and panic bought it. I'll just buy a 14600k with a DDR4 board at some point since its cheaper than just buying new RAM. But on the good side as for now the games that I play run night and day better even without changing the CPU out.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Same, just got it. Even did +10% power and -40 undervolt and it runs smooth at CP2077, indiana jones, funmark. All at QHD ultrawide

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Ohh wow you are right I almost forgot about the PSU. I have 650 80plus gold Corsair with Ryzen 7 5800X. Is it sufficient or should I order a PSU aswell (if its not necessary, I would prefer not to :D )

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Dangerous_Baker4427@reddit

Get the 9070xt, it’s much better than the 5070 and will last much longer. Also get at a minimum a 750w PSU, but I’d recommend 850w. Make sure that the PSU will have the correct cables. I bought a 850w PSU for my 5070ti and it didn’t come with the 12V cable so I had to order a new one since it also only had 2 pcie cables…

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

I read some threads that say the RX 9070 XT is running fine one good 650 80 plus gold PSUs with higher demanding CPUs. I Will try it, the worst that can happen is my PC shutting down no? I feel kinda stupid orderind a new PSU without maybe not needing it :D

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One_Principle_8767@reddit

You can use a 650W PSU, but I wouldn't recommend it.

For the past 15 days, I was using EVGA Supernova P6 650W w/ 5700x3d, 9070xt steel legend dark, a couple of SSDs and a HDD, 5 argb fans, etc. I get an occasional driver timeout (no idea if it is PSU related, though).

Got an ASRock Steel Legend 1000W PSU (not the best one ever, but to keep the theme going - mobo, GPU, psu, same brand, same line), but CBA to get it switched.

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

Wow, få den da skiftet, så kan du også få computeren blæst igennem osv. Så køre den bedre bagefter 100% (Jeg ville godt hjælpe, men bor ved Grenaa på Djursland). Jeg bygger altid et eller andet og det tager altså ikke ret lang tid hvis du siger, så er det nu! ;)

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One_Principle_8767@reddit

It is still running rock solid, and since I've set -300 on the Max Freq Offset, -40mV, and -15% power limit, I didn't receive any driver timeouts or had any issues.

Will switch the PSU tomorrow, probably :)

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

Yes, do change that PSU, or else you will have a weaker system and not as stable.

Please let me know when you have changed it 🙏 Have you built a lot of computers, or else just text me.I can you if needed 😁

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One_Principle_8767@reddit

Changed the PSU about a week ago. S,ince then I got only one driver timeout, while they were more common with the old PSU.

Old PSU: EVGA SuperNova P6 650W
New PSU: AsRock SteelLegend 1000W

I've built computers counting in the low 1000s, my 1st job was as a tech in one local PC shop/Lan caffe, but when it comes to my personal stuff, I'm just lazy as hell :D

Thanks though!

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

Mee too... I have been building for years, now I only help out friends and Fam. I am also lazy with my own stuff, but I am really trying to do better, because. A really great build +cable management is important for Airflow and also not getting caught up in a whole mess at the back, lol. I also try not to drag cables over the back of the mobo where the cpu and if there are other critical places. I am really trying and when it is done, i feel SO Satisfied by myself... Hahaha, oh man... But I have started to like building a little again, at some point i really hate it... Now when I build less, I like it more and can often choose most of the parts my friends and family are going to buy, so I play around with diffirent things, at their cost, ho ho ;)

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Dangerous_Baker4427@reddit

Fair. You can undervolt it to help reduce its power consumption.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

So I tested the GPU bcs of my PSU being 650 Watts only. I did +10% power limit, -20 Volts and its stable. Drawing 350W (max) only by gpu and its all fine. Tested in Funmark and Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing maxed out on ultrawide

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Dangerous_Baker4427@reddit

Sounds good. I’d just check the connection every once in a while to make sure nothing is melting. And if you ever start crashing, you’ll know why.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

you mean the PSU melting? :DD

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Dangerous_Baker4427@reddit

No just the connector. It’s common for Nvidia GPUs, but could theoretically happen if the PSU isn’t designed to handle that much power transfer and causes too much heat. Not a huge deal just something ti check when you do your periodic cleaning

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i_eat_da_poops@reddit

Ya you can just undervolt. It literally yields better performance, uses less power and slightly better thermals with zero drawbacks.

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kmkm2op@reddit

Well the drawback is stability depending on silicon lottery. My sapphire pulse 9070xt can only do -15 mv to be stable for everyone I've tested so far and there may be situations where even that is not stable so ymmv.

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i_eat_da_poops@reddit

From what I've seen so far, 5-10 is usually stable across all the board, anything further would depend on the lottery you mentioned.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

So far Im stable with my 650 PSU at -40 undervolt in cyberpunk, indiana jones, funmark. We will see, but it seems good to go:)

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50_centavos@reddit

AMD official site says 750 watt minimum.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/desktops/radeon/9000-series/amd-radeon-rx-9070xt.html

I would avoid disappointment and wasted time and just get a PSU too.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

So I tested the GPU bcs of my PSU being 650 Watts only. I did +10% power limit, -20 Volts and its stable. Drawing 350W (max) only by gpu and its all fine. Tested in Funmark and Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing maxed out on ultrawide

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PsyOmega@reddit

Official specs are usually way higher than they need to be to account for people buying the junk PSU that claims 600W but craps out at 400.

Any reasonably B or A grade PSU will do fine. The 9070XT only draws ~300W. Paired with a CPU that targets 100W during gaming workloads, you're only at 400. give a generous 50W more to overhead and still 450, which is 200 shy of a 650W PSU's limit and well within the margin you should stay back from said limit.

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Dangerous_Baker4427@reddit

Yup…

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Zapador@reddit

It's sufficient as long as you don't overclock, or even consider slightly lowering the power of the 9070 XT. You can do that and not lose performance.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

So I tested the GPU bcs of my PSU being 650 Watts only. I did +10% power limit, -20 Volts and its stable. Drawing 350W (max) only by gpu and its all fine. Tested in Funmark and Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing maxed out on ultrawide

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Zapador@reddit

Nice! Then you're well within the power limits of that PSU.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Yeah, they probably counting in some +100W comming from somewhere else :D didnt know my 120W TDP cpu was low voltage according to amd or they count in idk what

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Zapador@reddit

Yeah I think they just assume the worst case scenario, like having an extremely power hungry CPU and also 97 RGB LED fans, lol.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Yeah lol, The only thing Im kinda fck about is the ARGB pin since my MSI Tomahawk max doesnt have it, but its only RGB control as far as I know, the RGB on the SAPPHIRE RX 9070 XT works anyways :D

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godlyuniverse1@reddit

Just do a 10 to 20 percent power decrease on adrenalin software and undervolt, minimal performance loss for less power

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

So I tested the GPU bcs of my PSU being 650 Watts only. I did +10% power limit, -20 Volts and its stable. Drawing 350W (max) only by gpu and its all fine. Tested in Funmark and Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing maxed out on ultrawide

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lLoveTech@reddit

If you want to use your current 650w power supple then get the 5070 as the 9070xt consumes a lot more power than the 5070 and even the 5070 Ti! It can have power spikes as high as 420w while the 5070 will be under 300w all the time! Yeah the 9070xt is slightly faster than the 5070 but the 5070 has better Ray Traycing performance and a better upscaler in DLSS 4.5! It also has better encoders and decoders if you record and stream your games! It has CUDA if you ever want to do some productive tasks! Overall the 5070 is a very good package for what it offers! It has a much better feature set than any AMD card out there!

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

Lidt hurtigere?

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PX2S@reddit

You dont need a new psu. I was on a 600w psu with a 7800x3d for over a year

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MagicPistol@reddit

I use a 650 w gold PSU with my 5700x and 9070xt. Haven't had any issues yet.

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farmeunit@reddit

Try it out and see. If you have issues, upgrade.

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Playful_Lunch_739@reddit

Not sure if this is still a relevant topic, but I would legitimately recommend people go with the 5070. Bought one last month from Walmart for 550 USD in store and absolutely love it. Just check Walmart or anything similar to it. Prices went up recently to 600, but it's still 100 cheaper than the 9070XT.

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UCanCallMeCJ@reddit

Might not be relevant, but.. I had 4060 TI 8 Gb and was looking for an upgrade. Bought 9070 xt last month and.. it was the worst decision I've made. I actually got into this thread, because after a month of trying everything I have found in threads, yt and came up with myself as well as rejected RMA (they say it's all good...) I still can't use PC for anything other than browser really as it crashes and restarts games after 15 min - 1.5h. No overheating, connections are all good, no bottlenecks elsewhere, bought BeQuiet 13M 1000 as the GPU is hungry as hell, didn't help either. Gone through so many threads that I know it's not a me issue.. the card is borderline unstable, im currently looking to switch back to Nvidia.. 4060 ti was much better than 9070 xt - it worked and worked fine.

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Munvus@reddit

I myself got the 5070 12GB when I could have gotten the 9070 XT for the same price, due to:

stable drivers (check AMD's Reddit, someone is always complaining about unstable drivers)
lower power consumption, handling OC/UV well
updates and compatibility of DLSS, FG, MFG and DFG which will be released soon (compare with FSR and you'll see that Nvidia reigns supreme here)
CUDA for work applications
Nvidia broadcast for webcam and microphone adjustments (AMD even has software for this, but it hasn't worked for a few months)
smooth motion (driver-level FG) in games that don't have it implemented. It works well and I don't notice artifacts.

Everything works perfectly well at 3440x1440, even more so using DLSS and/or FG (I only notice artifacts using ultra performance mode).

I used an RTX 3060 12GB for 3 years at that same resolution and never had any problems with lack of VRAM. Besides, even if something like that happens, why not lower the graphics settings a bit? I don't see a problem with that.

Another point: if the 5070 TI didn't cost an additional $400 in my country, I would have bought it instead of the 5070. However, I am very satisfied and have nothing to complain about.

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guizounours@reddit

I did the same thing

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Loose_Credit_1150@reddit

Thats what i am thinking i guess İ’ll go buy rtx 5070 for future proof and technologies and for reflex too

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AardvarkBeautiful634@reddit

Having the same problem lol. I am gonna building my first pc, what should I get with ryzen 5 7600x, 32 gb ddr 6000 the 5070 or the 9070xt. They are both available at the same price. I currently play on a GTX 1650 laptop so either would be a very huge upgrade. Help is appreciated.

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BillionaireBear@reddit

9070 owner here, it’s a great card, FSR has come a long way, RT performance is honestly fine.

Does nvidia still produce better picture quality? Yes, but 12gb is increasingly not enough for 1440p in AAA games. 9070xt is likely a better long term buy, but if you’d prefer a set and forget solution, 5070 seems good.

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TEEMAD_XDD@reddit

Just a quick question, what's the lifespan difference between both of them?

Also, why would 5070 be a set and forget, and not the 9070xt which has more vram?

M planning to upgrade as well, but hard to choose between the two

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BillionaireBear@reddit

I can’t confirm the lifespan between the two but cards should last a long time if maintained. Like clean it if it’s obviously dusty, and replace the thermal paste or pads every few years.

I think the 5070 is set and forget as you probably won’t need to mess with its settings or bios. Nvidia just offers a better out of the box experience imo, and games are typically a little more optimized for nvidia cards. Doesn’t mean it’s better, just simpler. As AMD cards continue to get stronger, probably less tweaking involved as well. I tweaked settings on my 7900gre for better performance more than my 9070. Maybe next gen will be even less, not that I plan on upgrading. Just my opinion

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Most-Philosopher6562@reddit

Hey man, you say picture is better in nvidia. What exactly do u mean? I have 5070 but i think about refunding it and getting 9070xt bc its same price. But if the amd is stuttering and bad frametimes, choppy feelings then i will stay with nvidia.

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BillionaireBear@reddit

I think Nvidia just produces a smoother image, less jagged edges of objects, less concern about heat or drivers. Overlocking is easier with nvidia for this gen, but that’s my opinion. With that said, the 9070xt is a stronger card than the 5070. And fsr4 is really good, just not in every game right now. I like to tweak settings, overclock my cards. My amd ones crash more than my nvidia, but hey I am stressing the cards out on purpose. Still, the 9070xt is better.

With all this, I think the 5070 is easier to live with, less to worry about, more user friendly. If you want best performance, and don’t mind looking into possible issues, the 9070xt is easily better. Hope that helps

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Most-Philosopher6562@reddit

I have my 9070xt now. I refunded my 5070. And omg nvidia is so bad.( i was nvidia fanboy wll my life)

But You are 100% right amd has better picture. Better color output, smoother and more detail.

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Most-Philosopher6562@reddit

Which ones has better framtimes and less stuttering?

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S24UltraUser22@reddit

If ypu dont care much about RT/PT and only focus on gaming , then get 9070XT but In RT/PT , Not a lot of difference between these two.

But anything apart from gaming like Streaming , video editing and AI Stuff , 5070 is better.

Note: I already have a 5070

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killer5907@reddit

Honestly, this depends on either

Get the RTX 5070 if you value upscaling as AMD is still clearly in a coma with what they support.

If you value raw performance, 100% get AMD as it's roughly 25% better.

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seriousbusines@reddit

Word of warning I am currently in the middle of the RMA process after getting a faulty RX 9070 XT.

I have had AMD and NVIDIA cards over the years and I have never had this many issues with games and drivers and software. Its gotten so bad that I have a 5070 arriving tomorrow to replace it while AMD figures out what is wrong with it. I never had these issues with my old 1060 or 3070 ti.

With the RX 9070 XT I have needed to do the following:
- undervolt to help avoid it crashing (This ended up delaying the crash but not fixing it)
- Downgrading the graphics driver version because they haven't had an actually stable driver release in over SIX MONTHS
- RMAing the entire card because this is getting to be annoying.

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PBorch@reddit

Did you use DDU?

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seriousbusines@reddit

Wish I had a dollar for every time someone suggested this. I'd be debt free.

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valy225@reddit

Gamers are so lucky with these new gen computers. I had to remove everything and press button for 30 seconds 4 times before finding out later that the hdmi been half in inside this old school pc case connected to a new 1440p monitor.

My guess could be some windows update conflicting with the gpu or you bought a faulty card / 1000 PSU is not 1000 but 900 and need more power or wires from psu to gpu are damaged or something / The gpu in my pc is old and is working better than it did in 2024 when i had a power surge and battery is stil dead

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seriousbusines@reddit

Sorry non-sarcastic response. I have:
- Made sure that the PCIe cables are two individual cables attached to the card, no daisy chaining.
- PSU is 1000w Cosair Module from 2022 (New one coming this weekend, I'm hoping its just something dumb like that)
- Memtest86+ ran overnight, all passes not a single error.
- All drivers are up to date
- BIOS up to date F10 (X870 board)

Prior to Reformat:
1. DDU and clean install of 25.9.2 driver, then DDU and clean install of most recent driver, made no difference, still crashes.
2. Undervolted properly, stalls it a bit but still happens.
3. Ran 3DMark without issue, got a score over 7k.

Reported Windows 11:
1. Fresh Windows install with 25.9.1, still get error.
2. Checked Reliability Monitor and it doesnt even register the crash as an event, just sees the unexpected shutdown.
3. Took the card out and went off my integrated AMD graphics - issue fixed does not crash no matter what I play/do. Getting a new card this weekend to try that out.

The crash itself: After any amount of time playing any game (ranges from Warframe to Oxygen Not Included to even Magic The Gathering Arena) it will get stuck on a sound, lock up the entire screen and computer, unable to access task manager or anything. Only way out is to hard shutdown and restart computer.

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kmkm2op@reddit

Well there are many more potential causes. I'll paste something which has helped a few people.

Some motherboards don't deal well with pcie 5.0 gpu's without manually forcing it to 4.0. Reseating and replugging your gpu and anything else you might have changed and that would be my first step. If that doesn't work, I would see what happens when the gpu js underclocked by say -400mv, if this solution works then I would send it in for RMA as you got a dud.

There were more things to try but I'll give you a link if you need them. And there are things beyond this as well, which performance stats may help give you a better clue of what is going wrong. Also check windows event viewer to see what is triggering when you have your freezing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1lnxb8o/ultimate_amd_performance_fix_guide_stop_lag_fps/

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

EDIT: So I tested the GPU bcs of my PSU being 650 Watts only. I did +10% power limit, -20 Volts and its stable. Drawing 350W (max) only by gpu and its all fine. So if you dont have super demanding CPU (I have Ryzen 7 5800X3D) you should be fine:)

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Okay, so I took your advice (and watched dozens of benchmark videos and tests comparing the RX 9070 XT vs RTX 4070 and others) and went with the RX 9070 XT. I installed it today and played around with it a bit -it’s really good. The 650W PSU passed the GPU stress tests, so no issues so far, though we’ll see how it handles power spikes long-term.

Anyway, thanks so much to everyone, and for anyone wondering in the future: go with the RX 9070 XT.

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YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit

Ja der er slet ingen tvivl RX 9070XT er et meget vildere kort. Du skal bare have en god strømforsyning omkring 700w, hvis du har en billig strømforsyning, så regn med 800w. Personligt bygger jeg aldrig computere uden 80 + Guld PSU som minimum

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No_Improvement_4215@reddit

FWIW, I had the same predicament but with the 5070 ti. Bought both and tested on a 7800x3d. Raw raster is pretty much the same for both cards, but DLSS is just far superior, especially with 4.5 and dynamic frame gen on the horizon. Overall gaming experience with ray tracing and better up scaling to help performance and visuals just made the 5070 TI worth it, more bells and whistles. FSR is about 2 generation behind DLSS with 4.5 just releasing. 5070 ti was about 100 bucks more (I got a huge triple slot 5070 ti, I like big coolers and feel more comfortable with them).

Now that’s vs the 5070 ti, not 5070. If you can I highly suggest you buy both temporarily, test them and see what you like. Definitely worth it for a purchase like this so you don’t have regrets and you can be confident

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ndaonreddit@reddit

for dlls and frame gen get the nvidia, for lower temps get the amd, in my opinion if there is no price difference get the nvidia

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TheRedJester45@reddit

The 9070 xt is a great card. Highly recommend!

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Temporary-Pie4626@reddit

I’m in the opposite boat. Can get a 5070 for $489 and the 9070 non xt is $569. I’m not sure what to do

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KillEvilThings@reddit

DLSS and the new frame gen overall

no. That's purely marketing and propoganda. Seriously actual testers and benchmarkers rank raw power of GPUs, regardless of technical crap, why do we still think the bandaids somehow make up for that?

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Fair-Escape-8943@reddit

Because they indeed make up for that.

If a game doesn't have FSR, which is very normal still, the Nvidia rival Card will have x2 the Performance.

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UncleRico95@reddit

9070XT

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AIgoonermaxxing@reddit

The 9070 XT is only a bit behind the 5070 Ti in ray tracing (not Path Tracing, Nvidia still leads there), so even in RT workloads it's faster than the 5070.

The RX 9000 series also has FSR 4 upscaling that's going to be indistinguishable from DLSS 4.5 unless you're really pixel peeping. In normal gameplay you won't notice a difference.

Frame generation is available on the 9070 XT, and while it lacks the multi-frame generation that the 50 series has access to, MFG does have a performance penalty that reduces your base framerate that's even more severe than what you'd normally get in 2x frame gen. For example, if you did 2x frame gen with a baseline of 60, you might get 100 frames (base framerate dropping to 50), and if you did 4x frame gen off that same baseline you might only get 180 (base framerate dropping to 45). Unless you're already getting excellent performance (where you wouldn't even really need the benefits of frame gen) the reduction in actual performance isn't worth it IMO. This tech is for rich people with like 5090s getting 120 FPS as a baseline that want to saturate their 360 Hz monitor's refresh rate.

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Apart-Job-3434@reddit (OP)

Oh wow, very well said. I mean Im gaming at UWQHD (180hz), so path tracing with 5070 is not going to be an option anyways if I want more than 50 fps. Tysm for your info<3

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kmkm2op@reddit

AMD's frame generation is designed to work with vsync to not have frame pacing issues. You will have to force this through drivers, if it doesn't work properly in game and you need to play fullscreen not borderless windowed. Personally I prefer just hitting a high enough base frame rate using a little bit of FSR4 upscaling and lowering the settings a tiny bit. I think the 16gb vram will help you more as you are on ultrawide 1440p and not just 1440p, which will give you some future headroom.

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turbateur500@reddit

I’m more used to Nvidia, but honestly I’d go with 9070XT. I was deciding between a 5070Ti and a 9070XT since they’re the same price here. If you can get a 9070XT for 5070 price, I’d go for it. Frame gen is okay, I’ve tried it, but it adds delay, and if you play on keyboard and mouse, I’d rather keep it off. You might not notice it though, but personally I disliked framegen and just keep it off. It’s an useless feature to me, unless you REALLY want to achieve x framerate.

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ElGamerAbdu@reddit

9070xt

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Fair-Escape-8943@reddit

I have been an owner of a 9070XT for more than 1 month and bought a 5070 to try if the Techs are really that better. They are, and they are actually implemented in most games.

I wish I didn't bough the 9070XT and bought either the 5070TI for 150€ or the 5070 for 100€ less when Prices weren't crazy, but here I am still deciding.

I would say go for the 5070.

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Haorelian@reddit

To be honest for price to performance RX 9070 XT wins here and would strongly recommend for going for Radeon card but there are some caveats with it purely on software side.

First one, if you are a competitive gamer and care about it immensely then you'll be disappointed. AMD really lost the war on Reflex vs Anti-Lag 2 because Anti-Lag 2 is literally supports 10-15 games right now and Reflex is on nearly every game being competitive or single-player. You can check both AMD and Nvidia websites on supported games.

Second, DLSS is much more supported in games than FSR but in terms of quality I'd say FSR4 and DLSS4 are on par nearly but DLSS 4.5 blows FSR4 out of the water.

Third, if you're gonna try to do some local AI work or some other compute other than gaming it's a hard loss for AMD. AMD recently up their game on ROCm on Windows and CUDA being a monopoly and standard over the years you'll have better experience with Nvidia on that end.

From what I’ve seen the 9070 XT is about 20% faster, but isn’t that kind of negated by DLSS and the new frame gen overall? Or am I wrong there?

I'd say raw performance is much more important first then FG is just a nice to have. Because if your raw performance natively is bad for example you get 45FPS on ultra and DLSS/FSR and framegen it to 90FPS it's gonna feel meh because your real frames are sitting at 45FPS which the game world and all physics etc renders at. If you were to frame gen from 60FPS you'd have much more smoother experience.

Also for frame gen, AMD has a glaring issue with framegen frame pacing. It does not feel smooth at all compared to Nvidia and Lossless Scaling.

So my initial stance stands, I'd strongly recommend RX 9070 XT for pure power for price but you gotta accept the caveats.

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Delicious_Ad_8501@reddit

I’d get 9070xt, but frame gen is really good technology, amd has nothing (worthy) to match. Also, 5070 uses way less power and has much better overclocking potential, but again for the same price i’d go with 9070xt.

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nToxik@reddit

You didn't mention what resolution your monitor is but ray tracing on a low end GPU isn't going to get you great results.

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fyreburn@reddit

The 9070xt blows the 5070 out of the water. It's usually compared to the 5070ti, which it is only slightly worse than.

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emb3rzz@reddit

9070xt no question

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tamarockstar@reddit

I think even the ray tracing performance is about the same, so there really isn't a good argument for the 5070. Get the 9070xt.

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PBorch@reddit

9070 xt buyer here, the only thing I miss from team green is Nvidia Reflex radeon anti lag just does not feel the same. but it really only really matters in competitive fps. For the vast majority of games I play the 9070 xt is better.

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SuperShaestings@reddit

9070XT is better than the 5070

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more_like_5am@reddit

I’m using 9070 xt and it’s amazing. Get it

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nhnsn@reddit

If you're an Nvidia fan, I'd just go 5070, you'll be constantly second guessing yourself if you pick an amd card. About the comparison. Yes, the 9070 xt is 20% faster than the 5070, and has 4 gb more vram, which in a select few titles can be determinant..Ratchet and Clank and Indiana Jones come to mind as big exponents. Now, on the software side, Nvidia is miles ahead. More supported games with dlss 4, and better and more varied upscaling options. Also Nvidia has a history of long support on their older cards, while AMD treats their old consumers really bad(no fsr4 for older cards and they almost discontinued 6000 series support).Finally, about raytracing, I think hardware unboxed made a video showing the 5070 is marginally ahead of the 9070xt in raytracing games. You need at least a 5070 ti to get top of the line raytracing.

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