Problems with council neighbours, what to do?

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AdhSte@reddit

Suffering same issue. been here 8yrs, neighbour moved in 4yrs ago, day 1......floods my flat. got high and left his bath running. I go upstairs he says 'chill the fuck our batman' ruined my TV and xbox.... since, every day screams every 20 seconds while smoking crack, slams all drawers and doors, hear him shouting to his Alexa, plays shit songs on full blast, screams at me (someone reported him, he thinks me).....he was fresh out of prison and screams that if he is evacuated he will torch my flat..... I tried to talk to him again, he gor aggressive in my face and told me he knew people who would rape and kill me and my son..... police, say call council as they won't deal with domestic anymore.....council are scared of him....

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AdhSte@reddit

So now....at a loss because I can't hit him (been very close and keep a hammer by the door) but also can't 'grass' him up because now he started a union with his next door neighbour....however not another person on our whole block likes him.... I even drink more now to get out of my flat.....

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

It’s grass, get a life. I’d say go touch some grass but your might be a bit pissy now just your attitude 😂

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carlou1719@reddit

Is it just me or did the post say nothing at all about grass?

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

Communal areas outside an apartment. I assume there is grass there. But you’re right they did not specify grass, that is my mistake.

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carlou1719@reddit

Communal area and outside the front door of a flat sounds like an indoor hallway/stairway/storage areas to me. Although tbf even if they did mean outside, letting a dog piss on concrete outside the front door of a block of flats is pretty rank. I wouldnt assume grass, there are plenty of potential scenarios that wouldnt involve grass, in which case OP would be quite right to be annoyed by it

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

I totally agree. And when I re-read it i realised he also literally meant right infront of his door. I was still picturing like outside his door being a few metres away on the grass. The more I screw my bloody head on the more I realise this dog owner is probably a lazy bastard who steps outside to let his dog wee then goes straight back in. And his reaction to it all definitely makes him sound like that sort of person. I fully misread the post, got the wrong idea from the start and continued to assume wrong on every bit of information provided 😂

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Neddlings55@reddit

Where does it say its grass? Lots of flats open onto small concrete areas. Thats gonna stink if so.

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judithc0okie7775@reddit

like yeah concrete would be nasty for sure. i’d be fuming too if i had to deal with that smell daily

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petiweb5@reddit

Congrats man, you are a great example of why today's society is like this.

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

I can’t believe you lot are up in arms over a dog taking a wee… insanity. There are far worse things going on in society to be worrying about.

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petiweb5@reddit

I also have a dog but I am not an irresponsible dog owner. Yes, there are worse things in society but let's respect each other

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nonoanddefinitelyno@reddit

People like you are the reason society is falling to pieces.

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

😂😂😂 no my friend, people you out here worrying over a dog taking a wee is far more damaging to society. Worry about a real problem. This is barely even counts as an inconvenience.

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misspixal4688@reddit

This ladies and gentlemen is perfect examples of inconsiderate people and not just piss on grass it leaves a awful smell.

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Slight_Respond6160@reddit

It really doesn’t tho. Massive overreaction. Where is a dog supposed to piss if not on grass?

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pjs-1987@reddit

You must be very used to the smell of piss if it doesn't bother you.

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McMiles420@reddit (OP)

Problem is it’s not grass so it just sits there stinking up the place

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IamlostlikeZoroIs@reddit

Council house wankers are the worst and most of the time it will be a long gruelling battle that lasts for over a year. Every one who is saying phone the police, the police won’t do a thing until something is happened when it is too late and the council won’t do anything unless the police have been called multiple times. I’m sorry but I don’t have any real advice to combat this, I have heard being aggressive to the council works. Not like throwing abuse at them but more telling them you can take it any more and going to lose your mind over the neighbours. Though I’m not sure how much I recommend this as if something bad doesn’t then there is a paper trail leading back to you.

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atinywaverave@reddit

"Council house wankers" is such a horrible thing to say. Not everyone who lives in council accommodation is a reprobate, and although I think people are responsible for their own actions to a large degree, there's proven correlation between poverty and anti-social behaviour. Can we stop stigmatising and demonising poor people now?

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notouttolunch@reddit

If they would stop pushing for things like the legalising of cannabis, using cannabis and encouraging others that legalising cannabis is a good idea and then stop doing things like those described in this post... It even makes me cringe to watch Only Fools and Horses for this sort of reason. Why doesn't Derek just get a bloody job?

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atinywaverave@reddit

Poor education, cycles of abuse, bleak outlooks, wealth inequality, health inequality. Those are all the things that contribute to the way things are in council estates. Why would he get a job when this time next year, he'll be a millionnaire?!

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notouttolunch@reddit

Yeah but it doesn't mean people have to pretend drug abuse should be legalised at a time were successfully reducing smoking and alcohol use.

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atinywaverave@reddit

Ok. That's your opinion and that's ok. I didn't comment on legalising drugs, I commented on the language used when referring to council house tenants. For what it's worth, the legalisation of cannabis and other drugs isn't purely a council estate mindset. Do you really think being a private tenant automatically makes you holier than thou? I highly doubt it.

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IamlostlikeZoroIs@reddit

I was just referring to the council house wankers, you made the assumption of that including everyone who lives in a council house rather than just the ones that are anti social and just wankers. I also wouldn’t call council house people poor since a lot of them get more than most working families.

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atinywaverave@reddit

"Council house wankers are the worst". Fair enough, but that's not how it came across. A lot of them *are* working families.

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MisterIndecisive@reddit

It's exactly how it came across. Besides even if they are working means nothing when it comes to being a nightmare neighbour

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atinywaverave@reddit

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, I'm afraid. I didn't say it did. I simply pointed out that the original comment appeared to be steeped in disdain for people who live in council housing.

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Separate_Rise_8932@reddit

And OP is a council tenant too.

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Bksudbjdua@reddit

Get those Silent dog whistle thing, and have it near your door

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Willeth@reddit

Are you suggesting OP waits near the door ready to blow a whistle should the dog approach?

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Bksudbjdua@reddit

Aw no, I meant the pre recorded ones, either can go off at set intervals, or motion detected, or via an app

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Willeth@reddit

These high pitched sounders are often very easily heard by and a nuisance to humans.

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miIk-skin@reddit

Man, I hate these things. I'm 34 and can still hear them clearly. A neighbour down my street has one, I guess to ward off cats, but every time I walk past their house it's just "*eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*".

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Haunting_Being@reddit

I'm lucky not to have any issues like OP, but I've filed this idea away for future use should I ever have someone like this as a neighbour.

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MisterIndecisive@reddit

Crowbar to back of head should do the trick

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Linkyjinx@reddit

Spit is a health and safety issue, they could have, hepatitis, herpes or other diseases, it’s why staff don’t share cups with patients in hospitals, it will also have his DNA 🧬 in it so the police or ancestry might make use of it!

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Separate_Rise_8932@reddit

They won't do anything for spit on a door.

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Upstairs_Yogurt_5208@reddit

Report him to the police and hand over any footage you have of him spitting at you and your property.

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Separate_Rise_8932@reddit

The police are very unlikely to come out for this.

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craigus17@reddit

There are multiple fucking tuberculosis outbreaks currently in the UK. The police do not take kindly to spitting.

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McMiles420@reddit (OP)

I thought if I did that it might be dismissed as there’s not any danger but I think I will just so I have a record

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Fuzzy-Lawfulness8246@reddit

Spitting on someone can be considered assault

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MarcoJono@reddit

But it was only the front door that has been spat at, not OP.

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Fuzzy-Lawfulness8246@reddit

Ah I misread that. Still better to get a record of it to the police now rather than later

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Zaxa7@reddit

This is the only answer. The police will have a chat with them, you keep recording the incidents if it escalates then the council will have to act.

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BarefootBagLady@reddit

Op, your council should have an antisocial behaviour team, keep a diary of all incidents and also report to police so it's on record. There should be some sort of cooperation between the council and the police in your area. Check the council's website for their policies and let them know that you know what they are and what the council are legally obliged to do. As for the comments in response to you tearing into council tenants? The people who've been a nightmare to live next to are the ones who buy ex council properties and look down their noses at their neighbours. Wind your necks in eh?

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Unlucky-Time-1758@reddit

yeah defs keep documenting everything. might also be worth looking into local community groups that could help mediate or advise fr

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ChampionshipSimp6775@reddit

welcome to why people say council estates are dumps

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Dissidant@reddit

Don't interact, engage or communicate with the neighbour, just let your ring/door cam do its thing and continue going through a mediator i.e. the council itself. That way you are not only demonstrating de-escelation but the neighbours can't play the provocation card Its shit but I don't know what you can do till they cross a threshold the councils willing to act on

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Bksudbjdua@reddit

Personally, I'd be annoying as fuck to the council. Borderline harassment. Send emails every single time something happens, send emails giving monthly updates. Write letters to various people. Take note OF EVERY SINGLE THING. And basically just be the loudest person in the room. Don't be rude to council staff. Just be polite but annoying.

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J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A@reddit

Also, CC those emails to your local councillor.

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MedicalTea2989@reddit

Yes council can definitely do something without police involvement just keep complaining.

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Upgrade_U@reddit

What do you mean by “the council can only act” if there’s a threat to your life? You mean move you?

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McMiles420@reddit (OP)

Move me or do anything at all

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Upgrade_U@reddit

I know that to be moved because of ASB the police do have to confirm that there's a risk - I've just been through this myself. The criteria is extremely strict and narrow, and without the police recommendation it's difficult to get a move. They were not going to move me without this. If you can possibly get medical backing - perhaps it's affecting your mental health and you can get support/advocacy from GP or local mental health team, that can help with pushing the council to help you tackle this ASB. But for them to do anything at all seems wrong - I would make a formal complaint through the council's complaints process, this can sometimes push them to act. Keep logging everything, speak to your MP - as someone else said, it's all about repeated pressure. Do not interact with the neighbours at all. If you can possibly get medical backing - perhaps it's affecting your mental health and you can get support/advocacy from GP or local mental health team, that can help with pushing the council to help you tackle this ASB. Otherwise, perhaps try to mutually exchange homes with someone and just get out of there. You deserve peace at home.

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dixons-57@reddit

The council will do nothing.

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Immediate_Rub8840@reddit

Speak to the police. State that you calmly spoke to the owner, but ended up door being spat on and now they are still showing signs of aggression by making loud comments when passing your door. Hand over all the footage, and say that you are scared. Keep documenting and keep reporting. There are really nasty people out there that just don’t care. Stay safe though. Have your phone on you incase you need to film or photograph anything else.

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semorebunz@reddit

ask the council what their rental agreement was that they signed when moving into the place , most likley mentioned no anti social behaviour , ask them what they consider that to be and how to start the ball rolling

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Green-Ad5007@reddit

Scatter a few little cocktail sausages around the communal areas. Sausages with a special laxative bonus inside.

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Traditional-Bug7136@reddit

Where's the people who say "ring the cancel they will come out " the council don't care the police don't care. Realistically you have 1 option and that is move unless you want to start a war

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bio4m@reddit

I used to live in a building that was part private and part council. The council residents caused chaos (trash on the stairs, loud parties, fights, using communal spaces to store their stuff, blocking the only exit from the building) The council did nothing even after numerous complaints from myself and other residents of the building. It didnt help that the council flats had their residents change every few months. I ended up moving

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Upgrade_U@reddit

Yeah, I currently live somewhere like this. It’s so bad that my psychiatrist has intervened and told the council to move me - luckily they’ve listened and are going to. These situations never improve and really drag down your quality of life

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Dry_Yogurt2458@reddit

I lived in a similar block. The top three floors were privately owned. with the bottom two floors being housing association. we all had the same cleaners and maintenance team. The top three floors were lovely and clean with no issues from the residents. The moment you went down the stairs to the bottom two floors the smell of weed hit you, holes began appearing in the walls where people had punched them and there was writing on the walls and windows. If you walked down the corridor of the bottom two floors the carpets were stained and torn and there was rubbish bags and litter left lying out in the corridors where people couldn't be bothered to take the bags down two flights of stairs. Also there were frequent police visits to the block and often late night parties on the balconies of those flats. It was chalk and cheese. I lasted two years and I moved.

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quicksilverjack@reddit

The council tenancy agreement will have a section on not being an anti social dickhead. Make a Freedom of Information request to the council for a copy of their tenancy terms and conditions. Then, in writing, contact the council highlighting what terms your neighbour is in breach of. Copy in the councillors for your ward. Do this every week with a diary (date and time) of every incident.

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hoosier_gran@reddit

You probably don't need a FOI request, the tenancy t&c's should be available on the Council's website

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unclelumbago1@reddit

Piss up their door.

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Help_My_Face@reddit

Bit of shit on the door handle.

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inee1@reddit

You need to document everything, dog piss, noise, threats and save all doorbell clips to a computer, inform the council who should look into it, however be prepared for little or no action from the council initially, keep documenting, keep ringing. You will be fobbed off initially and then told you need evidence. which by then you should have. Be aware that the neighbour will know it's you who complained be prepared for a bit more hassle from them. If you are genuinely scared speak to GP make the council aware that it's making you ill. Eventually the council will step up but it's a long process as they will ask for neigbours version of the issues. Also it's not the council's fault if it takes a long time as there will be.a.lot o other things they have to attend to311some people forget that they have other issues like yours. Good luck getting it sorted,

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

How does it go from door being spat at to a threat to life? Serious question. You sound like you have a bee in your bonnet about renters vs owners. If you are a renter in a private house OR you are a man - I would delete this post & go and do some pushups and burpees.

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McMiles420@reddit (OP)

That’s what I’m asking though, it obviously doesn’t equal threat to life but it needs to be threat to life for the council to do anything at all

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

No you are ALL right - I don't mind being wrong about the misreading & I edited it asa I realised. I have said that I don't delete just because I got something wrong.

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FinalEdit@reddit

Did you even read the post properly before judging the OP? They said that the council won't act UNLESS there is a threat to life. Not that there had been one. Maybe de-escalate the judgment and focus on giving useful advice. The council are essentially the landlords here hence the need to mention their type of tenancy.

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

I did edit it straight away - could have deleted what I said but I don't do that. The useful advice is 'grow a pair' & if you can't understand your position in this thing called life & just focus on being a better person today than you were yesterday.

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FinalEdit@reddit

What?!?! That is such a silly thing to say. Stop antagonising people and being a little troll. OP has a genuine concern and is asking for reasonable advice. As someone who has only recently been freed from problematic neighbours I feel I can safely say that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Grow a pair? What does that even mean? What is your advice other than spouting immature and empty platitudes? Utter child.

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HawkwardGames@reddit

How did you even get to that conclusion from what was posted? Absolute bellend.

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

So you would call the council about someone spitting on your front door? The council? Haha

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Opposite_Radio9388@reddit

> How does it go from door being spat at to a threat to life? Serious question. I'm not sure OP has the answer to this. What makes you think they know? They've been told by the council that the police won't act unless there is a threat to their life - the council's words, not OP's. Weird to ask a "serious question" and then prescribe exercise based on gender or rental status...

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

It was a serious question- I then reread and understood what was said - I just dont delete what was already there - I will sit in my mistakes/ edits etc.

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PureObsidianUnicorn@reddit

Mate it’s 2025 not 1855, nobody needs to do push ups to prepare to fight the neighbour unless you live in a never ending mosh pit. Man or woman nobody needs dog piss round their front door and people spitting at their door. Bet you’re a peach of a neighbour!

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

It was tongue in cheek - we can all see the OP is helpless.

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Namiweso@reddit

What facts above remain? Your comment is pointless as you misread.

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

The fact that anybody complaining about this on Reddit - having a council neighbour with a dog who spat at my door once is probably the very least of my worries..

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Dry_Yogurt2458@reddit

I think you need to re read this. It was the council saying that they couldn't act unless the Police decided that there was a threat to life. Now, who has got a bee in their bonnet?

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

I did actually mis read regarding the threat to life - hence edit & admittance - but the fact that a man has called the council to say someone spat at my door.. Anyone backing this guy is a cuk with a cape. Gary would be proud of you all.

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True-Abalone-3380@reddit

> OR you are a man - I would delete this post & go and do some pushups and burpees. Your name is Andrew Tate and I claim my £5.

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cybertonto72@reddit

Cause some people don't respond to being asked to not be a cunt. I've seen things like this end up in court cause a neighbour thought the street he lived on was his own to do with

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Duoplo@reddit

Shitty dog owners tend to be shitty people in general. Never the type of person you can reason with. Then leaving our yourself moving out will be the only solution.

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PrivateBookings7@reddit

This is awful, I had sort of the same situation, you'll get through it 🫂

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ladybigsuze@reddit

The house next door to me is council and I had new neighbours move in during lockdown and they drove me crazy, making noise and making my house stink of weed. I complained to the housing association, (I dofeel like a bit of a dick for doing it but it was very badly affecting my mental health). They got a warning and they toned down their behaviour after that. Often council tenants contract actually holds them to quite a high standard to give the council more power to chuck them out over anti social behaviour so I feel like you're being fobbed off and should continue to bother the council about it.

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DevilishlyHandsome63@reddit

Surely the council must have an antisocial behaviour policy? Ask them, and then contact your MP. Worth a try.

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TimeNew2108@reddit

Report to the council, official complaint then watch as nothing happens. My council asked if I wanted to make a new complaint or join the existing mass complaint! Nothing happened

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thenorthmerchant@reddit

Report it to your councils neighbourhood enforcement, housing and environmental health team. Also police non-emergency for harassment. Dogs pissing in communal areas is what they need to do. On your door is annoying but cant really do anything about that. The owner encouraging it (if they are) and the spitting is what needs to be focused on. It may constitute behaviour contrary to anti-social behaviour, crime and policing act 2014 (warranting community protection warnings/notice/order - replaced the old ASBO's), as well as spitting generally being an offence under a raft of other legislation including legislation that covers assault (if on to a person), public health control of disease and local by-laws. Keep diaries of their actions and evidence but don't directly interact with them

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pobrika@reddit

If you have a neighbour that doesn't give a shit there is no course of action to reason with them. Confronting then will only escalate the issues they don't think like you or me, every interaction is a fight to them. It's like arguing with a wall. Unfortunately the only course of action is if they move or you.

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Embarrassed_Fan1176@reddit

That's can't be right. Try the councils ASB dept see if they can help? A mate of mine used to work for one and they were involved in things all the time not always with the police

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TheNinjaPixie@reddit

Also council environmental health, this gross behaviour.

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PomegranateEither768@reddit

Do you have a housing officer that is assigned to the whole block or individual? If its a whole area one, contact them specifically about the issues. Just going to departments doesn't do anything, half the time messages don't even get passed to the HO. You need to contact them directly in writing if possible and keep following it up. If residents have their own individual HOs you'll have to try and find out who theirs is and complain to both them and your own. If nothing else, yours might be able to put in for a transfer for you

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Chunk3yM0nkey@reddit

Its a tale as old as time mate and why no one wants council housing anywhere near their home.

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Sea-Still5427@reddit

Involve your local councillor.

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srogijogi@reddit

Used to live in terraced with council neighbours behind one of the side walls. Unemployed, addicted, with neglected kids, with piles of trash bags just outside (too busy to get them to the bins), with _interesting_ hobbies (besides addiction) like playing drums at home or having a football game inside. Council did nothing. It took them (council) months to respond to my numerous requests. Their response was, obviously, useless. Move out.

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CephasHomebrew@reddit

Sponge up the dog pee, collect it until a jar is full, wait for man to come out, throw it in his face. Or police I guess.

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DisMyLik18thAccount@reddit

r/legaladviceuk

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Jxlynerah@reddit

What happened to decorum

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Momotaro6@reddit

It's a council flat. Basically you're screwed mate. Try your best to move when you can if possible.

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HoundParty3218@reddit

Is this council owned/maintained grass outside a block of flats?

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Lopsided-Camel1114@reddit

Hey its damn disgusting how certain individuals with personal issues put it on you but.. This is a health and hygiene issue .Just throwing a wild idea out, Maybe they could walk them??? You need to report to housing and if you have cameras keep logs. Intimidation is the lowest of the low.

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