🚫 Update: No layover pay “Act of God” - Bohren Logistics

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No_Edge_7964@reddit

This is why I strongly support hourly pay for truckers. Vast majority of pay in Australia is just hourly and it fixes so many of these issues. Any delays, breakdowns, bad weather? Doesn't matter, you get paid by the hour.

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UhOhAllWillyNilly@reddit

At my second job I was paid $200/day no matter what I did (and I was happy with that (yes, it was quite a while ago (2012-2014))). Daily pay is roughly equivalent to hourly pay.

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Working-Performance3@reddit

I'm 220 a day but I'm done in under 7 hours. Is like better money but 17 off the clock daily gives me a life

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Working-Performance3@reddit

So when you calculate that to hourly I make pretty good money

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

American trucking is all about exploitation. Only a few companies do hourly but they all benefit from not paying for most of the work a trucker is responsible for. We all make a deal with the devil to do this job. We all have blood on our hands

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stainless5@reddit

It always seems to me that they put in all these extra rules and random stuff that you have to comply with to try and take cents away from you, If you look at the big picture if they scrapped all that and just pay you a day rate or an hourly they could get rid of a lot of overhead / extra people who go through the pay and everything and look at this stuff and save money.

It's why I'm against red tape for things like Social Security payments Because most of the time the extra checks that they make you go through cost more money Then they save. I find this works with businesses and goverments.

TLDR: The amount of extra shit someone goes through to save A dollar usually ends up costing $10

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No_Edge_7964@reddit

Very exploitative. It's sad to see as an outsider looking in

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HowlingWolven@reddit

Deliver, clean that sumbitch out sparkling clean, take two weeks, give notice.

Preserve everything you can as evidence, file suit against your now former employer, and sic labour onto them.

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redditesting@reddit

Especially since the shipper, receiver, broker, and OP’s bosses (pretty much the whole county) knew well over a week in advance of this said “Act Of God”. Greedy mfkers always want to shift the blame on to the drivers, the people that are hurt the most in the process.

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AbrahamL26@reddit

I could never understand why Americans law classify the weather as Acts of God. The weather is predictable, sure there are instances where a flash disasters happens, but cmon.

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redditesting@reddit

probably because it’s hard to predict the damages it might cause. For example, we know it’ll snow and we’ll have ice on the roads and we can be careful about it but we don’t know how many trees or utility poles will break or how many accidents will happen - all of which can start a chain reaction.

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AbrahamL26@reddit

Predict the damages? You look at previous instances where similar weather patterns caused damage and extrapolate from there. Its very simple science.

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Always_Shifting_4459@reddit

Lawsuit?

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

Yes

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HappyAnimalCracker@reddit

I wish you every success, and Terry none

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Admirable-Cookie2888@reddit

I wonder sometimes why drivers don't give the spill on companies. Good post by the way.

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

Thats why I’m giving the spill. Been through 7 companies in 2 years of trucking. I’m over this corrupt bullshit and gross incompetence.

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homucifer666@reddit

If you haven't already, probably time to start applying for a new job. Can't imagine that conversation bodes well for anything going forward.

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

I’ve got 3 companies already lined up as soon as I drop the truck off

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Reddit_Is_a_jokee@reddit

Is there a reason why he can't leave everything at the truck stop and send in pictures. If he's owed money how can it be an abandonment. I'm looking to inconvenience Terry as much as possible.

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HowlingWolven@reddit

Not returning the truck to company property is easily argued as abandonment/theft and leaves you up Schitt’s creek if the company wants to fuck you for house money which they will.

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JMPhotographik@reddit

Leaving equipment is abandonment, no matter the circumstances.

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stephenforbes@reddit

There need to be more laws on the books to help protect truckers like you. I was scammed out of over 3k doing OTR from a sham foreign trucking company. Somehow they were able to still run a business in the states.

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Creative_Shame3856@reddit

Look into filing a workman's lien on the tractor and trailer. Lock it up somewhere safe, file the lien, then let them know you aren't playing and want your damn money.

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SnowBunnyEinar@reddit

Glad you told the company, we need to hold the industry accountable, we need to unionize for ourselves

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spyder7723@reddit

You don't need a union to be treated decently. Lots of good jobs out there. The problem is you guys keep choosing to work for the sorry ass ones.

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SnowBunnyEinar@reddit

Im planning to try my hand at o/o this summer

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spyder7723@reddit

Huh. That's kind of ironic since unions have been against owner operators for decades.

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KatieTSO@reddit

Because 1099 contractors can't be union

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SycoJack@reddit

One of the most powerful trucking unions is the owner operators and independent drivers association(OOIDA).

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RKGamesReddit@reddit

I wouldn't really say it's a union, more like a lobbying group for small businesses. It doesn't guarantee a certain level of pay for all members

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spyder7723@reddit

Exactly. At least not in this industry. The teamsters have a long history of trying to get rid of owner operators, including using violence.

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SnowBunnyEinar@reddit

I guess enjoyed not being paid? I don't know what to tell you, sir.Are you against truckers?

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natkingcoil@reddit

O/O take the rate they take, kinda the opposite of a union. There is a union like gentlemen's agreement to not run cheap freight but a) everybody probably does it in a tight spot b) plenty of O/Os have no idea what cheap freight is because they're grossly underestimating their TRUE operating cost. They think shit after I pay for diesel I'm getting $1/mi. Oops, ya bankrupt.

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Pretty_Olive_3668@reddit

Come haul cars, pay is great

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No_Edge_7964@reddit

Come haul fuel instead, much better. Great pay and benefits 😃😃

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Disastrous_Map4433@reddit

How does one begin hauling cars?

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Pretty_Olive_3668@reddit

There’s company’s who train as long as you have cdl experience

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Vino1980@reddit

Good for you. Time for drivers to stand up for themselves. A company cannot operate without drivers.

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Trapstardiamond404@reddit

I read your first post and that sucks for them. Who will drive for them after that? Do you think he's going to report it?

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

He said he would report it but he’s incompetent. Who knows.

I know that they have many owner ops running under their authority but they’re also leaving the company.

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whytawhy@reddit

It wont go anywhere, counties in florida have over 10,000 unprocessed rape kits ffs. The police are a joke. Just refuse to talk to them without a lawyer and they almost always fuck off. Doing actual work isn't their thing, especially when someone's whining about something that isnt even missing just not put away properly lmfao "stolen" eat shit

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SycoJack@reddit

The police exist to protect corporate assets. They absolutely will do shit about this.

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whytawhy@reddit

You're not wrong, but i doubt it would amount to anything.

I mean...

If the driver has record of a conversation between them that amounts to "do what i say or I'll report it stolen"... report

If the boss files a false police claim saying the trailer has been stolen, when he's on record with the last person who moved it saying "dont leave it there or I'll report it as stolen"....

Thats on him big time :)

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SycoJack@reddit

You're not wrong, but i doubt it would amount to anything for our buddy here.

That really just depends what the asshole tells the cops and what the cops choose to believe.

I almost got arrested for a stolen trailer when I worked for Covenant years ago. I was told to go recover one of our trailers from a customer we no longer had. So I did, when on my way back they called and said the trailer had been reported stolen and that I needed to fill out a recovery report with the local PD. So I stopped at a nearby truck stop and waited for the cop to show up. I told him what was told to me, explained where I found the trailer, the condition it was in and all that. I was driving a Covenant truck, pulling a Covenant trailer and this asshole wasn't believing me that I wasn't the one who stole the trailer. Even after showing him all the messages on my phone and permanently tethered Qualcomm.

To make matters worse, we were both having trouble getting ahold of the security department. So finally I called in like I had been in a fatality accident to get highest priority and was like "look, I'm about to get arrested for doing exactly what you asked me to do, so you better explain to this cop right this second that I didn't steal this trailer."

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Riyeko@reddit

If does suddenly pull his head out of his ass, make sure you've got pictures of where you left the truck. How much fuel it's got (trailer too if it's a refer), and just a video of a walk around of the whole truck and engine in the tractor.

Cover. Your. Ass.

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SuperConfused@reddit

Ask someone in HR: This is the most important thing you can do. If it were me, I would recommend making a delivery and asking if you could take it back, or at least have them tell you how much they’re going to charge you to get it back. A lot of these people are scumbags. They made sure to full loaded freight rates for special service rates with a fuel search chart to go get the truck. They may charge you to get someone from the Home terminal to the truck, and then back. It’s also far more difficult to get a job driving for someone else if they report it. Insurance carriers are scumbags too, and will charge you more for insurance, even if you get your own authority.

You don’t wanna waste the time to drive it back for free, and your best bet is to do something that would cause him to fire you a parked truck. You compose pictures of the truck 2X, true social, and every other social media site, tag him, and the company, and their customers. Just don’t lie, and only say things that are approval. You can also contact a law firm to send him a letter requesting payment for what they agreed to pay. Regardless of what you do, do not lie, do not disparage his character, do not threaten, make sure that you cannot be charged with extortion.

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Few-Solution-4784@reddit

a recording of terry telling him to go home would also be nice.

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Dead_Namer@reddit

Great advice, a dick like that is likely to try and get money off him for any kind of damage. I would also film the interior too as I wouldn't put it past him to claim it needed a valet because it was left in a terrible state.

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azziptac@reddit

Can we get this post to auto-populate as a response. To all the people coming here asking "should I get my CDL"???

Cause that would be nice.

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

I do my part by not encouraging anyone to get their CDL unless they are keen to enjoy pain and suffering.

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Akemi_Tachibana@reddit

There is no God. Pay up fucker or watch as your loads suddenly catch fire mysteriously.

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Jesus_4_the_jugular@reddit

Document everything. Get it in writing and record calls. When you apply for future jobs, no doubt Terry will give you a bad reference, you can provide evidence that terry is a greasy turd.

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

Correct, everything has been documented from day one

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wigglinwagons@reddit

Fuck Bohren

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Q7017@reddit

Terry sounds like what happens when good ol' "we didn't need no stinkin logbooks, we ran all day and all night on cheap gas station stimulants" boy becomes CEO of a trucking carrier

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Mountain_Fuzzumz@reddit

One day you guys will learn to record all your conversations.

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Beginning_Drag_2984@reddit

It’ll be hard to find drivers let alone good drivers with a company like this

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

They’ve treated me with great disrespect since I was hired.

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Beginning_Drag_2984@reddit

Yea and wonder why they can’t get nor keep good drivers. Run unsafe equipment and expect people to drive or haul it around

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Responsible_Bill_513@reddit

"NoboDy wAntS toWeRK anYmoRe"

Hey Terry, nobody wants to put up with the b.s. your pulling for the money you're paying. Bump up the CPM a bunch, then your driver's will take the some of the abuse and a little mismanagement from time to time. If not, maybe consider a new career, like retirement.

Pay peanuts, get a circus.

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Truckingwithpurpose@reddit

These trucking companies are fucking awful and our government allows these bastards to keep behaving this way it’s sad that our government will only touch the trucking industry to remove illegals instead of improving the quality of the profession and pay for the people who keep the country moving forward I bet if every trucker stopped driving the US would shut down then they would fix some shit

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okimlom@reddit

Any country that was serious about fixing issues, instead of whatever they are doing, they are working with trucking schools, and other organizations to train and fill in the gaps that will be existing with the actions taken against immigrants that drive.

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gkjnvgyj@reddit (OP)

They’re all in America

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MarkFinancial8027@reddit

Ask God for leftover pay.

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natkingcoil@reddit

Every time I see that company I say to myself "you know, sometimes on a long run, trucking gets kinda Bohren".

Anyway, sorry they're dicking you around.

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Rodeo6a@reddit

So you’re saying there’s a free trailer somewhere? :)✌️