What’s so bad about “I hope this email finds you well.” ?
Posted by gakay_@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 137 comments
What’s with all the opposition to saying that in work emails?
I don’t often use it but have before, and I’ve definitely received it before.
I assume when I’ve received it that it wasn’t written by hatGPT, I genuinely would not understand why anyone would use it for a straightforward short simple email (probably faster to type the email than the prompt)
Am I crazy? Does anyone else use this sincerely/ has received it and is fine with it/ etc?
Icy_Recording3339@reddit
My kids’ school sends out a notification via email every week to any families who have a student with a failing grade and it always begins “we hope this email finds you well.” While it’s a mass email SOMEONE chose to write it to begin with and it’s so wildly idiotic to write that and then say immediately “by the way your kid is failing lol enjoy your weekend!” Just flat stupid.
heavenhelpyou@reddit
I use "I hope you're well" at the start of every email and sign off with "All the best."
I already know my email content will likely make the other person's day a bit more difficult, so I might as well be personable about it!
winch25@reddit
Nothing worse than 'I hope your well' - pointless and dramatically incorrect.
impala_aeme@reddit
I hope you are a well.
barriedalenick@reddit
I hope your well ... is deep and full of water??
RemoveRemarkable2055@reddit
Emails are not emotional beings. I can’t stand that greeting.
Meanwhile-in-Paris@reddit
I use it with people I don’t want to find well, for some reasons. My abusive landlord got a lot of this.
Ill_Ask_3863@reddit
LOL yes! It's condescending and nobody means it. It's pointless fluff. Just say " have a good day', "good Morning" hell even "happy Monday" .....I hope this email finds you well makes me want to stab people :)
Rymundo88@reddit
That's why you should hyperlink the line to something terrible such as:
I hope this email finds you well
tomw2121@reddit
Legendary comment
pusheen_is_cute@reddit
😂😂😂 I haven’t cry laughed like that in a long time. Thank you ryumundo88
Jolly-Bandicoot7162@reddit
Well, that was unexpected!
ustarion@reddit
Don't you mean: "I hope this email finds you unwell"?
lovepotao@reddit
To me, it comes off as trying to be polite while actually conveying that they have put zero thought into this email as it’s a formula their junior high English teacher taught them. It’s hard for me not to cringe when I see this. What’s wrong with a simple “dear so and so” or “good afternoon”?
daronwy@reddit
It's the fluff you don't really need in work emails, personal emails sure, but are you sat there fingers crossed that Ian from accounting is well, have you really given it a second thought.
Also what's the reverse you hope that Diana from HR, is really up against it at the moment, especially with the rumours with what her and Ian got up to.
SL-Apparel@reddit
I call it just being nice but whatever.
Chevillator@reddit
Na it's hypocrite 100% of the time no one cares
Mantis_Tobaggon_MD2@reddit
Indeed...it might be fluff but on the other hand I get e-mails from one guy where he dives straight to a request. Doesn't even begin with name, no please, no thank you. Call me petty but you can guess where his requests sit in my list.
PM_ME_UR-DOGGO@reddit
You get paid to do your job though, is the guy an arse face to face, or does he type emails like this to save both your time.
LuxuryMustard@reddit
Being polite is hardly time-consuming.
PM_ME_UR-DOGGO@reddit
That’s where you’re wrong, if I’m spinning 100 plates at once, the 10 seconds to write out Hi name, hope you’re well times 100 emails a day is 15 minutes plus a day. Say an hour a week, across the year it’s days of work.
If I see people face to face they know how much I appreciate them and I always send gift cards etc to people who go above and beyond, but sending off a request? Here’s the task I want you to do, end of story.
LuxuryMustard@reddit
So you reward other people for going ‘above and beyond’, but you won’t even take 15 minutes of your day to politely address the people you make demands of?
ppeist@reddit
If you're serious, look into something like Autohotkey or an equivalent tool for autoinserting text.
As someone else says, it's not every email that has it. But if you're messaging someone you haven't messaged or spoken to recently then being polite is the right thing to do.
Mantis_Tobaggon_MD2@reddit
I've never met the bloke, I get that senior people are often blunt and to the point which I understand. But a 'thanks' when you've helped someone out takes 10 secs and isn't much to ask IMO.
PM_ME_UR-DOGGO@reddit
Well if you’ve never met him I think that’s a bit out of order then.
latrappe@reddit
Exactly, there's a lot of mileage to be made out of making fun of corporate speak on the internet but this example is just wrong I think. Constant interaction with tens / hundreds of people kind of demands a certain level of etiquette to grease the wheels and make it less awkward. So these standard statements get created. Everyone knows why, no-one really cares. It's how you get to Friday.
I think like 95% of people, I genuinely mean it when I say things like that in emails or messages. I might like the person and not interacted for a while. It might be a first time interaction and just like a "how are you doing?" if you meet in person, you add in a hope you are good / well etc. Doesn't hurt to be polite and it makes work a hell of a lot more pleasant.
Leelee3303@reddit
I've heard it called 'social lubricant' which I think is very apt.
I also find it useful as my boss frequently shares his screen and doesn't turn his outlook notification pop up off. The little "hope you're well" or similar hides my payroll question from displaying to a whole group of random people.
Tetslou@reddit
I have somone (same level as me, not a higher up) who constantly send emails like that, usually asking for something urgent out of the blue, they could have asked for earlier and didn't.
"Name, (no dear or hi)
I need x y z, I have a meeting this afternoon and it is urgent I get it ASAP.
Their name."
lizhurleysbeefjerky@reddit
I used to despise emails like that, but more often than not now I find the people who seen them aren't anywhere near so blunt/horrible in person and just seem to have developed that email style as a quick, direct way of communicating which I have no problem with. As others have said here it cuts out fluff that isn't really needed in every single communication, and in fact is sometimes blatantly insincere - which feels just as bad as including no pleasantries. If that person also spoke to me like that in person or on the phone that would be another thing.
I used to manage someone who was on the surface very nice but was a terrible slacker, and liar, about work and to boot couldn't deal with anything outside his very small comfort zone (telling people good news and what they wanted to hear - i work in certification and a big part of it is clients not meeting requirements first time, we did tonnes of training on how toapproach this but he just wanted to tell people the positive outcomes). He would fill his emails to colleagues and clients with 'hope this email finds you well' and no end of decorative phrases but very often skirt around the point of the email if was at all something that the recipient didn't want to hear or wasn't expecting. I would have rather he dropped most of that and been more direct and repeatedly told him that; he rapidly went through performance management and then left before he was sacked.
Yet_Another_Limey@reddit
It’s worth doing a communications styles course with people you work with frequently (DiSC or similar. It can be really eye opening about how different people have different preferences.
massiveblackoutt@reddit
On the spectrum.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
What if I had genuinely hoped that Ian from accounting is well, or he genuinely hoped that I was well?
prototype9999@reddit
What if he is not well, but he doesn't want to get into it, because it might be deeply personal, so you force him to lie.
PeMu80@reddit
He doesn’t need to reply to that part because OP hasn’t asked him anything. They have just expressed their wish that he is well. Sure it’s a somewhat empty pleasantry but it doesn’t obligate anyone to reply to it.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
He isn’t obliged to reply with a lie! It truly is, in fact, work email fluff. Usually people don’t reply it.
It also isn’t a question, as in ‘are you doing well or not?’, but just a ‘I hope you are well’
prototype9999@reddit
That's correct, if Ian is not on the spectrum.
Gambit791@reddit
He really will need to wipe down that ottoman
Bearha1r@reddit
I'd use it if I was emailing Nick, a commissioning engineer with a client on a new project. Me and Nick worked together on a massive project about 5 years ago but I haven't been in contact with him since. We're not mates but we have mutual respect and I genuinely hope he's been doing well for himself in the intervening years. I can't imagine using such a formal phrase but the sentiment would be there. Wouldn't use it for internal emails, the company isn't big enough to warrant it.
Yet_Another_Limey@reddit
Then “long time, no speak!” Or similar.
HermitBee@reddit
It's still “I hope the email finds you well”. It's just dripping with invisible sarcasm.
DasharrEandall@reddit
Well don't keep us in suspense, what did Diana and Ian get up to?
/s
DarquessSC2@reddit
I use it occasionally. It feels more polite than simply jumping into the substance of the email. I get it's pretty much meaningless fluff, but so is small talk - and as with small talk, feels like it serves to ease into the more serious conversation.
And as I've seen someone mention in another comment, when reading, I just glide over it, not registering the words but equally half-subconsciously noting the sender is polite and having a better impression of them as a result
Cherry00071@reddit
Hey dear, check dm, i had something to tell you
redrighthand_@reddit
It’s personal choice.
I don’t use it as I see it as pointless fluff that everyone ignores but it’s up to you.
Taran345@reddit
This ^ 100%
It’s used by people who clearly have too much time on their hands.
I’m too busy to bother having to read (or write!) such unnecessary shit. Get to the point already!
Kieran293@reddit
I’ll get to the point then: you’re not as important as you think and at any point you’re replaceable
Taran345@reddit
Whilst that may or may not be true, what’s the point of somebody you’ve never met or even interacted with before adding such an unnecessary line to an email?
Do they really care whether I’m well? No, of course they don’t.
Are they just after a bit of information from me? Yes.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind a bit of common courtesy such as the occasional please, thank-you, that’d be great, kind regards etc. but long, flowery, unnecessary waffle just annoys me.
168EC@reddit
I think this is it.
If you know someone well, then a much better option is "Hey Steve, hope your daughter's dance competition went well?".
If you don't know them that well, something around corporate guff may work "Good Morning Tracey, hope you're not too swamped with that urgent new thing from head office..."
The "hope you are well" may be sent with great intention, but to me it comes over as a relatively thoughtless, insincere, platitude. Potentially even designed to divert from attention:
"Hi Red. Hope you're well. I've booked you in for a one to one with me at 11. Dont bring coffee. Kind regards, SoulessManager"
PeMu80@reddit
I would be annoyed if you if you asked me anything personal or conversational in an email. It’s fluff that I have to out of politeness reply to. “I hope this email finds you well” is fluff but it is a statement not a question so I can skip it.
sweetsimpleandkind@reddit
Literally. Send work emails like this:
"Hi Paul and Andy,
I'm working on x and need to do y. Is that handled by your department? Would you be able to provide with assistance to do y?
Kind regards,
Leticia Borbendoofer
0200 001 0011"
Do not include more.
massiveblackoutt@reddit
So miserable.
redrighthand_@reddit
Spot on.
I’m in a sales/BD role and its a waste of time for any prospecting emails. Another half second wasted when you could have said something much more intriguing to hook them in.
Mobile-Raccoon7337@reddit
It sounds a bit Edwardian, like on the 25th of this instant...
turkishhousefan@reddit
I do care about the wellbeing of my colleagues across the business, even the ones that rustle my jimmies a bit. If they're swamped or having a terrible time then I may be able to reprioritise, escalate, or find a different route to achieve whatever it is I need to.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
I like that! That’s very considerate of you. Do people actually reply and explain over email if they are having a terrible time?
Jimi-K-101@reddit
Who says it's bad? What opposition?
When posting a question like this it's helpful to provide some context!
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Scroll through the other comments here and you’ll see what I mean! I’ve come across it on multiple posts elsewhere recently (and didn’t see any of the other side, of anyone finding it fine/normal), so posted this question
Bug_Parking@reddit
It's a very British thing.
US colleague have emailed that are much more to the point, which I prefer.
Reminds me of when I was working for sillicon valley company, and our UK insurance provider emailed back concluding 'I trust this resolves matters'. The email was littered with such archaic, pointless language that really stood out as just being a UK thing.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Interesting! I have an American colleague who works with us remotely, my meetings/communications with him are absolutely inefficient and it takes so much out of me just to bear with it.
Direct, to the point, without fluff, sure, but in such an inefficient way it gets on my nerves. It’s the first time I’ve realised I actually hate the practice of “tell them what you’re going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you’ve told them”.
I can say “Right, well that’s all from me. Thanks for calling, have a good day!” and 5 minutes later he’d still be wrapping up!
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
Nothing is so bad about it.... surprised at the question
gakay_@reddit (OP)
That’s what I thought! I was surprised to see so much disdain for it on Reddit. (See the general vibe of the replies here!)
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
I find it a little bit of fluff, and pointless, but I have bigger fish to fry.
2023mustgo@reddit
Politeness is so old fashioned, it seems!
Jack-Jimmy-Jones@reddit
I know a guy who doesn't use pleasantries in everyday conversation (in person) and it can be quite difficultat times. I'm an introvert and don't like excessive smalltalk, but some pleasantries / politeness are necessary to everyday life!
I also tend to find that people who actively complain about the phrase tend to be in positions of power (not always in a 'you're the boss' kind of way) and have forgotten that they're human, a little patience goes a long way and yes, their shit stinks just like everyone else's.
Rh-27@reddit
Nothing I hate more about working life than fluffy bullshit emails.
I'd love a world where we could go from Hi [name] to straight in to what I/they need.
Rorosanna@reddit
I'm kinda disappointed that so many people find common niceties pointless. I get pretty irritated when I get an email with no pleasantries and just work demands.
I always start work email convos with someone like, I hope you are having a great day, or similar. My exboss would very often write just " Hope well", at the start of an email, which was short but also fine.
Usually it's the assholes in the building that can't be bothered to show common courtesy or be polite and just make everyone else's life a tiny bit more miserable. Like, how busy and important do you think you are? These are the same people who never make any effort to be part of the team in my experience.
alicecarroll@reddit
I don’t give a fuck if most people I work with live or die so I just skip the pleasantries. I was having the worst year of my life last year which people at work knew because I had to work from australia for 5 weeks waiting to see if my mum would live or die then it turned out she just ended up permanently disabled and people STILL said ‘hope this find ls you well’.
It doesn’t and you know full well I’m working at 2am while I’ve spent all day in the ICU with my mum but thanks. You insincere cunt.
So it’s a no from me.
marlonoranges@reddit
I've used this opener. And I mean it. Most days I feel under seige at work, beaten down, and I hope others are doing better than me.
Barnagain@reddit
I hope this email finds YOU well...
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
It's a waste of time. I get hundreds of emails a day. The people who get to the point get read.
NandosCEO@reddit
Maybe you have hundreds of emails because you don't read most of them, so polite people are constantly trying to get a reply.
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
It's counter-productive. The people who bother me because I didn't drop everything to reply to their non-time-critical e-mail are less likely to be read.
It's the people who send something once in a blue moon, and get to the point, who are worth reading.
NandosCEO@reddit
Sounds insufferable.
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
Everyone thinks their message is important. But so do 100 other people.
Mischief_Makers@reddit
Just like how everyone thinks if it's not their top priority then it's nobodies top priority, huh?
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
More that the sender's priorities might not be anyone else's.
Mischief_Makers@reddit
Nor might the recipients.
I concur with u/NandosCEO, utterly insufferable.
GazTheSpaz@reddit
I never use it as it isn't something I would ever say to someone. I write my emails to have a conversational tone, and to feel genuine, I can't do that honestly if I begin it by stating stuff I would never actually say to anyone.
gdp071179@reddit
I've been criticised for taking a semi-casual response to replying to emails - partly due to being internal helpdesk so we don't deal much with outside contacts other than 3rd-party suppliers. Thing is, I know these people on a day-in, day-out basis while the critics are so wrapped up in bureaucracy and bootlicking that their more professional approach comes across insincere and inpersonable.
tmstms@reddit
Who opposes it?
I am in an environment where showing interest in the other person's life helps the work ineraction and if one remembers stuff they tell you (e.g. where they are going on holiday, family stuff etc) the chances are they will be nicer to you.
hlvd@reddit
I never use it and always think it’s a weird starter for an email when I get one.
Supernewt@reddit
I use it all the time usually for somone that ive not spoken too for a while. Its a nice opener and i do mean it sincerely.
SamatureHour@reddit
I think it's closely associated with marketing emails and openers, so people find it disingenuous.
Goes to show how cynical we have all become of general marketing and promotional stuff, when you can't even wish people well in emails anymore....
Shanobian@reddit
If I saw that I would immediately think scam
_WinkingSkeever@reddit
My understanding is it comes across as insincere when people use it, but also obnoxious and entitled if you just start the email with what you want and no fluff. Sort of a "dammed if you do" situation.
uk123456789101112@reddit
The opposite comes across as a demand or threat, the type of person who goes straight in with your name, no good morning, no hi, just your bare name like they are at their wits end or straight to 'do this now', these people have lots of emails awaiting a rsspibse. We are dealing with people and being polite and sociable gets you further than being efficient.
NuclearMagneticShark@reddit
Because it's a waste of time. Just get to the point.
It's even worse when someone sends me it on the company instant messenger. Because now I'm sat waiting there for you to type out the actual message.
GottaBeeJoking@reddit
https://nohello.net/en/
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Oh gosh that does sound terrible 😆
I’m not sure I’d be patient enough to deal with that on instant messenger either, especially if they’re typing it in separate messages as it sounds like from what you’ve described!
Rowdy_Roddy_2022@reddit
I don't use it because grammatically I hate the phrasing. However it doesn't bother me to receive it.
TomfromLondon@reddit
It feels very fake and from a company that wants he to buy something from them
HD_Sanders@reddit
Not a fan, especially when its meaningless. I've worked with people who use it all the time. Hoping I'm well 3 times per day 🤨
Impossible_Pop620@reddit
I don't think the variant posted here is the one that passes people off OP.
This is what actually annoys people - "I hope your well" or "I hope your keeping well". Especially when it's written by a young person who studied at a decent university after grammar or public school.
chuill@reddit
"I hope this email finds you alive"
nonotthereta@reddit
It rankles. I get it weekly from my therapist, who knows I am chronically ill, so it feels pretty inappropriate/lazy.
I also got "I hope you have been keeping well" from the HR person who had overseen my employment termination a few months earlier due to said chronic illness. That one was ouchie.
If it weren't spouted out by rote (and therefore totally meaningless anyway) they probably would have thought long enough to realise that would be a daft thing to say.
But it always felt half-assed to me even when well. You're not actually allowed to respond with any honesty if you haven't been "keeping well", so it feels like an empty platitude whose undertone is, "don't actually give a crap if you haven't been; I'm just writing this because it's a thing we have to do." So, not so polite after all.
AndyKWHau@reddit
It's called professionalism, which I know is a bit of a dead concept these days. I actually get really quite annoyed when people don't at least use something like "how are you?" before they launch into whatever they need from me. I don't need an entire paragraph about what they did over the weekend or how the weather has been unseasonably hot recently- just an acknowledgement that beyond whatever you're about to request from me that we are still both human and deserve a modicum of dignity amd respect.
worldworn@reddit
I'm a get-to-the-point guy, but I deal with a lot of people who arnt and find direct approaches rude or brash.
So yeah, it's a bit pointless for me, but other people like it. So each to their own.
javajuicejoe@reddit
I just get to the point in my emails, people prefer it if you do. Then I write all the small talk at the end ‘best wishes, have a great day etc
Dr-Moth@reddit
I use it when emailing accounts I haven't spoken to in some time, or if I've not heard back when I expected to.
It's an opening that invites the possibility of sharing a bit of personal info, when they might otherwise avoid discussing it because they don't want to burden me with their woes. These kinds of added personal aspects to account management will build better bonds.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Thank you! Not sure it’d work on me personally (very happy to share in person, not so much over email), but I agree it adds a little personal touch and that that’s important!
I’m just not sure why there seems to be such strong opposition to it on Reddit (that I’ve seen so far/ in general) so I appreciate your take on it!
WrldSIlkrd@reddit
You're on the same platform as people who would freeze if a taxi driver struck up a conversation, enjoyed the social isolation of the lockdowns, and believe you should never be friends with your colleagues. Wouldn't say UK reddit is representative of the average person with average social skills.
SpudFire@reddit
Probably because a lot of redditors would ask how you are in person.
I didn't even realise this was a problem for some people. It's just a bit of friendly, polite fluff. It's really not as deep as some people are making it out to be
WrldSIlkrd@reddit
I don't think it is really a huge issue. I enjoy being polite and think the pleasantries of the past are nice. We all lead such robotic lives, especially at work. Taking 10 seconds to add that in really isn't a big deal.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
As an additional question, what are people’s thoughts on something like “I hope you had a good weekend” or “I hope you’ve been enjoying the sunny days/ warming temperatures” etc? ie equally fluff in my eyes, but less generic ?
2023mustgo@reddit
It’s basic politeness to show a little humanity to your colleagues not just treating them like robots. Especially if you’re about to ask them for something!
RabbitRabbit77@reddit
I have a particular aversion to Monday emails. They mainly start with ‘did you have a good weekend?’ I mean, I generally did as I’m not at work (I don’t hate my job I just prefer weekends) but I’m hardly going to say no or anything. I do sometimes use it myself when I need something but I rephrase it to the more casual ‘I hope the weekend was good’. My current boss who is a lovely person and has only been in the post for 2 months doesn’t use any pleasantries. He greets and signs off politely in emails but doesn’t use any fluff. I rather like it.
BibbleBeans@reddit
That’s breakroom small talk not email filler. Asking on a teams call maybe but why people do small talk over email boggles my mind.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Ooooh. Now that you mention it, I really don’t like when it’s don’t over teams call. There’s always a bit of an awkward silence and then a couple people answer in turns. Which always takes ages! And particularly feels like a waste of time. Now that one does irritate me!
BibbleBeans@reddit
On in a teams meeting with multiples hell no. I mean like on a one to one call.
Certain_Car_9984@reddit
I immediately associate that with "I hope this email finds you well, I'm a Nigerian prince with lots of money to give you"
wait_whut_@reddit
Feels like the first slice of bread in a shit sandwich, used before someone gives me bad news or asks me to do something.
Kitchen-Pangolin-973@reddit
I don't use any such opener in my emails. A simple Hi XXX and then get into what I want from them. It's quicker and gets the job done
DasharrEandall@reddit
I've never heard of "opposition" to the phrase, but it does come across as slightly pretentiously worded, like a digital version of a phrase from a letter in a Jane Eyre novel.
thefogdog@reddit
It's just a cringey work cliché. Like "let's take this offline". We're in a meeting you prick, we're already offline.
Suaglordd@reddit
Internally I don’t use it, externally yes, however boring but pretty safe opener. Obviously pending relationship with the receiver.
delaquanda@reddit
I don't personally use it, but many people at our partner companies do. So it seems to be completely normal.
trillospin@reddit
Generic, superfluous, boring.
Be daring in your openers.
JeffSergeant@reddit
"Alright Fuckface, "
Mischief_Makers@reddit
This is what i've always done. If not daring, at least an original twist on the usual fluff. I'll put things like "it would kindle within me the greatest joy to have assurance as to your continuing wellbeing" or "I hope life is the mint sauce to your lamb chop these days" or the simple "Good health to you sir/ma'am!"
scrubsfan92@reddit
I only put it in there if I'm emailing someone that I'm not too familiar with because I don't want to just go straight into asking them for something (for my regulars I'll just go straight into it though - ain't got time for niceties lol).
Purple_ash8@reddit
It’s personal choice.
I’ve never used ChatGPT for anything either.
RidethatSeahorse@reddit
I open with it when I’m about to drop a bomb in the 2nd paragraph. Sandwich …nice/business/nice.
bezzins@reddit
It's pointless fluff. It's also strangely worded too like... yes you typed my email correctly? Yes I'm well? Yes through the mystical magical power of the Internet your email did indeed find me? Yes it found me but I'm unwell? It didn't find me well, it got stuck in the matrix for 3-5 business days before I finally found it in my spam folder? It kindly did the needful?
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Interesting, I’ve always taken it as ‘I hope you are well at the moment you receive/read this email’. Rather than ‘I hope this email has managed to reach you successfully’…
klc81@reddit
Oh, so you hope the stomach cramps and projectile diarhea don't kick in until after I've dealt with your inane email? Is that what you're saying?
BibbleBeans@reddit
Completing work emails on the loo would be like the mullet of shit spewing
bezzins@reddit
Yeah I agree that's what it's intended as but it just feels like people have just copied others who use it and it has no real meaning beyond fluff. If you cared about the recipient truly you would ask How are you doing? Or even the lesser of 2 evils, I hope you're well.
gakay_@reddit (OP)
Fair enough! I take your point
NandosCEO@reddit
Majority of replies here seem to hate it. Some examples from the comments: "here for information sharing not conversation", " filler / useless content", "Generic, superfluous, boring.", "pointless fluff".
The reality is that it depends on the industry, the persons, the roles, the relationship. I notice it a lot when receiving emails from recruiters hiring for me etc. I guess it's part of their business language, and I'm totally fine with it. Occasionally I use it myself.
Often I have business partners I'm communicating with infrequently, maybe every few months. I always give people benefit of the doubt and read it as genuine. I hope they do the same for me. Although I don't know them well, I have lots of formal working relationships. After a while of not hearing from them I genuinely hope the email finds them well and everything is good at their end.
Another thing is that it sets the tone of the email. Sometimes I'll need to go back and forth with specific and direct instructions and while they are direct, I want to make sure the people reading it know that everything is all good and be friendly but professional.
Most of the time I don't write it. I guess you just adapt writing styles to people and situations like you would speaking to somebody IRL. But it has a time and place. I'm quite happy to skip the "fluff" if it isn't required and my sense of the other person is that they don't need/want it.
klc81@reddit
I don't like it personally - there's absically two possible scenarios:
a) It's from someone I don't know well, and comes off as an insincere attempt at manipulation.
b) It's from someone I do know well, in which case it's redundant, because they already know whether I'm well from when we spoke socially. If we haven't spoken socially for a while, see point a.
RaceFan1027@reddit
I had an email from someone who is comparatively very important (ceo and founder of the company I’m going to work for) and it opened with ‘hope you’re well’ (or something to that effect) and it made me rather happy - much nicer phrased than the email from her pr person.
DiskBeneficial1576@reddit
"I hope this email finds you well" - translation: you better be fucking dying as an excuse for taking so long to reply to my emails.
DoIKnowYouHuman@reddit
The issue I have with “I hope this email finds you well” is the feigned interest…if you really cared you wouldn’t email. If you are genuinely interested in how well I am then that would generally put you in the list of work friends rather than just colleagues.
The same applies to “hope you had a good weekend blah blah blah”, it’s a weird way to phrase it if you are actually interested in what I did at the weekend.
Generally my professional comms still keep in line across the board, if I wouldn’t say it in person I’m not saying it in email or messenger…would you say to someone’s face “I hope you’re well” and then immediately drop into “how are the sales figures looking” or “you need to investigate this level 1 incident”?
CrepsNotCrepes@reddit
I don’t really care.
But personally I think it’s filler / useless content. In a work setting I have a lot going on, if you’re emailing me get to the point of what you need from me.
Also it’s something I expect from people not really close to me, like someone in the company I don’t really interact with. And it feels a bit formal like you want to ask me something but have to make email pleasantries first so you don’t feel rude.
AstronautFluffy8710@reddit
I use it when I haven’t emailed or spoken to someone for a while (e.g a couple of months). I wouldn’t use it for someone I spoke to last week.
BibbleBeans@reddit
I’m not 80 and all about the pleasantries and if emailing someone at work I know they’re not doing well because our workplace is a dump. Concise emails are the best ones, here for information sharing not conversation.
TheNotSpecialOne@reddit
I hope this reply finds you well.
Yes I hate it too. Never understood it myself