And so it begins, Chinese cars in the US.
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IllustriousSteam@reddit
In the last couple years, there have been many posts about Chinese cars potentially coming to the USA. There have also been many posts about slowing EV demand in America. I find it interesting how Americans apparently don’t want EVs, yet dropping tariffs and letting Chinese automakers in will somehow wreak havoc on the domestic auto industry. If Americans really don’t want EVs, then domestic automakers should be just fine.
Dull_Sir8015@reddit
it’s not that american’s don’t want EVs, it’s that we can’t justify the price with what we get. For a sub 50k EV you’re getting bare bones interior with a mediocre battery. Chinese EVs, even if priced more expensive than domestically, would destroy the current EV offerings in the american auto market. They would also solve the issues stopping most people from converting - battery range and charging times are practically the same as a gas station trip for an ICE car not to mention the interior comfort and overall tech is also miles better and actually useful. Chinese EVs will 1000% cause a massive disruption in the market and every other automaker will be forced to adjust
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
I don't think Chinese EVs will have too much of an impact beyond eating Teslas, Rivians, and lucids market share. The series hybrids would have a lot of appeal here and pose a real threat.
Extreme_Dealer8023@reddit
I doubt Chinese imports will have a big impact on the US market. This sub doesn’t allow the discussion but legislation unfavorable to Chinese imports is one thing that unifies both parties.
I can see some established brands importing cars where it makes sense. But the big advantage of cheaper prices on Chinese built imports won’t be a thing here.
LOL_YOUMAD@reddit
That’s how I see it as well. May get some of the higher end stuff but we aren’t getting 15k EV. The gov protects American auto makers as they are huge lobbyists so I wouldn’t see anything competitive being allowed here. You might get one of the 15k cars offered at 50k or something but they wouldn’t compete with 50k cars
Recoil42@reddit
As someone who has been following this for a while, I can tell you what you're going to get because it's already happening:
You can think of it like money laundering or oil laundering, but... engineering. After enough licensing and sub-licensing, Chinese tech and platforms are no longer 'Chinese' enough to be prevented from coming through, so they do and will.
You'll still be getting hand-me-downs and platform innovations years after the Chinese do, money will flow uphill to China, but you'll get them. They'll get rebadged, parts will be swapped out. But: Life finds a way.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
Ok that's a lot of words to say that car manufacturers make deals and pass parts around. What people are wondering about is whether we are going to get China's "cheap" (currency conversion of an artificially depreciated currency of a product for sale in a foreign market with very different regulations, taxes, labor costs, etc.) and "well-appointed" (I mean... come on. it's all computer! lmfao) in the near future, and the answer is a fat, resounding "no".
Recoil42@reddit
It doesn't seem you absorbed anything from my comment at all.
mini4x@reddit
Aren't they already doing this with non-EVs, the Buick, I already forgot because it's so boring CUV, is made in China and sold here.
Recoil42@reddit
Sort of. The Buick you're thinking of was designed on a GM platform.
You might be thinking of the Lincoln Nautilus though, which is a little bit different?
mini4x@reddit
Buick is doing it already though.
GodsFavoriteDegen@reddit
Sure, but some guy in a brown hat with fewer subscribers than Thomas Holland's erotic origami hobby channel says otherwise, so I don't know who to believe.
Recoil42@reddit
what
GodsFavoriteDegen@reddit
I was skeptical, too, but his comprehensive modeling of the Speculum al foderi using vintage Florentine paper was super impressive. The dude has serious chops.
trail-g62Bim@reddit
I can't tell if this is a great day to have eyes or a terrible day to have eyes. But either way, I appreciate you.
Salman94157@reddit
Yeah policy probably blunts it, and the cheap sticker price doesn’t really survive US compliance costs. From what I’ve seen in places like Dubai, people like the tech and price but resale and service networks are still a question, do you think that would matter to US buyers?
PaxChelonia@reddit
I know this is kind of pedantic and beside the main point you’re making, but “global middle class” doesn’t really reflect the American car buying population.
At least as of 2015, 88% of Americans are in the top 16% of global income (adjusted in PPP terms). The large majority of Americans, especially those buying new cars, are very wealthy from a global perspective.
Aside from that, I agree with your point. The average American car buyer cares more about the price tag than the country of origin, and Chinese EVs would be huge here if they weren’t so heavily taxed.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
> Chinese EVs would be huge here if they weren’t so heavily taxed
huh? are you AI?
PaxChelonia@reddit
lol no, what’s wrong with what I said? Chinese EVs have a 100% t-word (can’t say it without auto mod, so I just said taxes). They’d be really price competitive if they could be sold here
Critical-Positive858@reddit
it's more than price. the us gov has to allow them to sell cars here
PaxChelonia@reddit
I mean sure, it’s not only the 100% t*riff that keeps them out, but it’s the main thing. Point of my comment wasn’t really to go into detail about every trade barrier we’ve put up against Chinese cars. I just think they’d be really popular here if there were no barriers.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
I think so too but i'm also concerned for our information security and manufacturing jobs. make no mistake china is absolutely fighting an economic war against us and has a nation of 1b people earning 1/3 of what we do with fewer worker protections to accomplish that
PaxChelonia@reddit
I’m with you on that, especially on the information security point. There are some legitimate reasons for the restrictions on Chinese cars.
Salman94157@reddit
I think you are right that price wins, and places like Dubai show it where Chinese EVs move fast on value even if resale and service networks still feel like an open question. Do you think tariffs just buy time until support and residuals catch up?
obleSret@reddit
People forget that part of the reason Chinese cars are seen as “cheap” is because China subsidizes EV manufacturers. The real question is will the US do the same in order to compete? We’ve already seen the orange guy take away the EV tax credit.
As a side note, saw a BYD truck at a Home Depot in Texas, and it looks amazing.
xlb250@reddit
The central Chinese government isn’t subsidizing car industry much more than other countries.
Where the subsidies are happening is in the provinces and companies. They are taking on massive debt to “compete”.
The Chinese government actually does not want this, and have warned that this competition is a risk for the economy.
Critical-Positive858@reddit
who cares - china municipal provincial and central govs are the same to outsiders
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
They've also been focusing on EV development, production, and logistics for longer than anyone else. Other automakers have switched gears from gas, to EV, to hybrid, back to EV. Regulations and incentives have changed a lot.
The_Owl_Man_1999@reddit
We don't have a domestic industry in Australia to protect, there's practically a new chinese marque launching every month.
I see chinese cars absolutely everywhere every day of the week(Chery/Omoda/Jaecoo, GWM/Haval/Ora, BYD, MG/LDV, Zeekr/Geely, Leapmotor, JAC, Foton, GAC.) my brother's mate has a Tank, mums friend sold a second gen prius in favour of a Chery and my grandpa sold his pajero sport for a Haval.
They're moving up the top sales charts incredibly quickly and will likely eat all but the most popular legacy brands in the future.
manukaiofthesea@reddit
And do they last? Or are they cheap to the point that they can be replaced every few years for minimal cost.
The_Owl_Man_1999@reddit
depends, there's quite a few earlier great walls (from around the time where they got in trouble for having asbestos gaskets, so about 10+ years ago.) floating around my area that seem to be running fine. (Probably a bit miserable though since I remember those old ones not being great inside and the diesels are some of the loudest I've ever heard) Similarly I do sometimes spot old chery hatchbacks from their first attempt at selling cars here.
The quality jump between then and now is pretty much night and day, though some of them are still lagging behind in some areas and of course with the newer ones we'll see how they go down the line.
SAIC are very hit or miss, low safety rating on the MG5, generally not great reliability stories on the petrol MG cars (the MG7 looks great though and the EVs are generally liked), LDV utes have rust issues.
Warranty is typically very long on the chinese brands so if something does go wrong with it you'd at least have that, though I've heard stories of SAIC struggling to get parts for MG cars in a decent timeframe.
KentuckyFriedChingon@reddit
I see they're really trying to reclaim that whole Tiananmen Square thing...
Bottlely@reddit
I've been in a few Chinese cars. While the generously haptic infotainment and screens galore featured in almost all of them represent everything I dislike about modern cars, you can't deny that the initial interior quality and creative design (unlike their exteriors) makes a great impression. Especially with regular buyers who want a good value when they have to gouge blood out of their hands to own a car. That's really all it takes for them to suddenly take over the roads I see everyday.
But after sitting in a Mazda 6e and then moving over to a high-spec 3 next to it, I still know I prefer mah buttons clickity clackity. May I have an xtra premium membership on r/whatcarshouldIbuy now?
Salman94157@reddit
From what I have seen in places like Dubai, the value punch is real upfront but the shine dulls a bit when you look at resale and how thin some service networks still are. Do you think that matters long term, or will most buyers just move on before it bites them?
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
I feel like resale in Dubai is relatively unimportant unless you're buying a Ferrari. This is my completely uninformed speculation though.
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
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bombastica@reddit
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death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
My apologies, massive oversight. That one is completely undrivable.
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strongmanass@reddit
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death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
Thick thighs save lives, and we used to value that. How did we loose our way.
FrozenUruguayBallbac@reddit
I do believe chinese imports will sell well in america, however I don't think they will DEMOLISH american cars like how japanese imports will. When japanese imports came to america the options made by american companies were especially dogshit and Japanese cars weren't. Will there are things to be said about the state of current US cars I wouldn't say they are dogshit. Anyway, i'm cautiously optimistic about these cars coming to America
POSVETT@reddit
The first time I saw Chinese-made cars was at Detroit autoshow, probably a couple decades ago. My impression was, "the street side bodyshops in Indonesia could have done better". I remember thinking that I could, probably, reevaluate in a decade or so time. Maybe the time needed was two decades. I have not seen one closely, but at this point, Chinese-made cars are likely quite decent.
Salman94157@reddit
That tracks with what I’ve seen too, the quality gap closed quietly and then all at once. In places like Dubai they’re selling well partly because warranties and local service networks are already solid, even if resale is still a bit of a question, so I wonder if that same support shows up in the US will attitudes flip fast?
cookingboy@reddit
I grew up loving all the German and Japanese OEMs, and I’m driving all European cars at the moment.
And as someone who just took a 3 weeks trip to China, it’s downright depressing.
Even $35k Chinese cars have better luxury, ride, interior material, build quality and fit and finish and tech than my $75k BMW i4. The higher end cars are straight up better than S-class and 7 series in literally everything I could think of.
My relative’s Huawei M9 had every bit the luxury and ride as his 2025 S-class, along with tech that’s probably 3-5 years ahead than anything the Germans have in their cars at the moment.
For example this is the HUD in $30k Chinese EVs: https://imgur.com/a/V5aFA3w.
And the Huawei M9 has headlights that can project complex patterns ahead (like creating an animated road crossing for pedestrians) and create a highlighted “light carpet” that covers only the lane the car is on: https://youtu.be/EVHuNsfosqE?si=lAl4uXwBaWX2KMNB
I can go on and on, it’s just downright insane.
the_lamou@reddit
Lllloooooollll. I'll give you that they ride well (some of them — I've been in their off-road oriented vehicles and it was bad), and in some place the tech is better, but the materials and fit and finish are hilariously bad. Unless you like plastic. Lots and lots of plastic. Like, come on. Don't even.
But also, do keep in mind that adjusted for purchasing parity, that "$35k" Chinese car costs more than a $75,000 BMW. By almost double.
Yeah, that HUD is an absolute fucking disaster, dude. It's distracting, it's unnecessary, it abstracts too much from the act of actively driving, and it's not remotely new technology. You used to be able to buy kits that retrofitted that functionality in any car, and then some (used to be able to straight-up watch DVDs on your windshield while driving.) They mostly stopped selling them because it turns out it's an absolute shit show and regulators cracked down.
That's not "innovation." That's "we don't have safety regulations."
Sure. And European cars have had matrix headlights that can do beam-shaping for like a decade now. They don't project fun little prints on the road, but that's because that's not a feature but a stupid gimmick.
Better technology isn't "let's put more flashing lights on this thing." It's not a gaming PC sold to man-children living in mom's basement.
You can go on and on, and I'm completely sure that every example you produce will be yet another automotive equivalent of putting a little screen on your CPU cooler that displays anime girls with giant tits instead of actual technology.
cookingboy@reddit
When was the last time you were in China? If it’s not within the past 6 months then your impression is no longer valid.
There is more plastic in an S-class than there is in a M9.
This is the interior of a $35k Chinese EV these days: https://imgur.com/a/OYMOI7b
Show me a single German car that approaches that level for less than $70k.
Ok, tell me what safety regulation from the U.S or EU covers HUD. I must have missed it.
Mercedes and BMW are literally rolling the same thing out in their next generation HUD. Maybe you should let them know how dangerous that is.
You didn’t even finish watching the video, and again, German OEMs are matching it in their future products as well.
Like I said, every American, German and even Japanese m auto exec who’s been to China within the past 2 years agrees with me. You are literally arguing against the entire global auto industry.
the_lamou@reddit
Oh. Weird. I guess they must have burned their entire manufacturing infrastructure to the ground and built a new in from scratch so that suddenly build quality is top notch everywhere. Except I've gotten fairly expensive parts from China in the last six months, and they aren't anything amazing. But I'm sure with cars it's somehow totally different!
Again, adjusted for PPP, which is the only basis way to compare, that's the equivalent of a $140,000 car in the US. So it's not especially exciting. It looks almost as nice as the CLS I had five years ago which left the lot at about $80,000.
Why? An internal Chinese price of $35,000 is about twice as high as $70,000 in the US for a German car.
The parts that cover screens in line of sight. They vary by country. You have the exact same Google as I do, presumably.
Mercedes and BMW also thought it was a good idea to remove physical buttons and charge a subscription for heated seats.
Companies do stupid things because consumers ask for stupid things. The fact that you think that HUD is good is the problem.
You'd think someone that can afford an Artura would understand that executives day all kinds of stupid shit for all sorts of stupid reasons. Like... perhaps because they're in the middle of union negotiations and trying to secure a better deal by claiming some distant enemy is outcompeting them. Or because they really want to electricity and are getting shit from short-sights shareholders.
threeinacorner@reddit
I'm not gonna argue about the other things because the guy you replied to seems to know his stuff already, but the PPP thing is hilarious lol. Especially when we talk about exporting cars.
Here in Australia, you can get a Zeekr (one of the luxury brands the guy mentioned) for under AU$ 60K. It shits all over any BMW or Mercedes in the same price range.
cookingboy@reddit
Dude, the Chinese manufacturing infrastructure absolutely is world class, just because you got cheap models doesn’t mean they are all built the same way, in the same factory, using the same budget.
Imagine you drive a cheap Golf, and then go “yeah the German cars all have cheap interior full of plastic”.
Compare a BMW 5 series built in China vs Germany, or a VW built in Shanghai vs. Germany, or a Cadillac built in Shanghai vs. Detroit, etc. They are all better.
Lmao that’s some crazy goal cost moving lmao. Do you also use the same logic on Japanese cars? What about Big Three cars built in Mexico?
Dude my BMW has a huge ass HUD in the exact same place.
Yeah they are all lying for various reasons, but are all somehow saying the same lie. There is no chance what they are saying is true, none /s
Or you can spend 2 weeks in China and I guarantee you’ll be saying the same thing afterwards as well.
The amount of coping you are having is just straight up unhealthy.
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
Leaving global economic impacts aside, this type of competition will force everyone to innovate.
ALOIsFasterThanYou@reddit
It's reminiscent of how the Chinese gov pulled out all the stops to bring Tesla to China, including waiving the requirement to set up a local JV (which has since been abolished altogether) because they knew Tesla's presence would force the domestic automakers to raise their game.
cookingboy@reddit
Yeah, that’s the silver lining I’m hoping for
BeneficialFinger5315@reddit
That brutal internal competition will subside; they've been suffering from over-competition and have already been consolidating to a few, like everywhere else.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
They've hundred automakers, but they now have under hundred automakers. Now, their govt has stopped incentive, we can see more local automakers disappearing.
strongmanass@reddit
Part of the issue is how bloated legacy OEMs are. Even the Aston Martin CEO who came from Bentley commented on the difference between the two. He said if he wants to change something he just calls Lawrence Stroll, whereas at Bentley he had to go through multiple layers and the VAG bosses had to be involved in everything. That kind of bureaucracy is killing innovation pace. While 8 admin assistants are trying to find time on their bosses' calendars the Chinese have already gone through a major update.
strongmanass@reddit
/u/the_lamou this is what I was talking about wrt feature sets on Chinese EVs being better than legacy auto a few days ago. I was trying to condense some sources properly, but cookingboy makes some great points here.
19Ben80@reddit
We already have them in Europe and they are better built than most cars plus they are cheaper and have higher trim/spec
Personally I wouldn’t buy as I like old cars but they are better then most normal cars
gt4rs@reddit
eh, I think it's the same as many things made in China - you get what you pay for. I've been in Chinese made Minis and Teslas and they're fine, but being up close with the Jaecoo lineup it wasn't so great.
Similarly, the IM6 from MG was nice to be in but that's their more premium brand, and I'm not entirely confident on how it'll do with time given that their older cars have been known to rust abnormally quickly here in the UK.
Recoil42@reddit
So the same thing as anything made anywhere, then.
gt4rs@reddit
well yes but in the context of
It's not a blanket better than most cars imo - they're built well enough when you pay premium money, but at the lower end there's a very valid reason why they might have a reputation for questionable quality
Recoil42@reddit
I think you have to be drinking silly juice to infer that the other commenter was implying a Jaecoo J5 is better-built than a BMW iX7. The suggestion was clearly that they punch above-weight for similar price points.
gt4rs@reddit
I didn't say nor imply that, I said you're getting what you pay for and not "built better than other cars"
As I wrote in my reply to them, yes you can say the quality is justified because it costs less than the competition, but it also isn't as good as a Sportage or Qashqai which admittedly do cost more but are not a top end BMW. Once again, quality as good as you pay for, not leaps ahead or anything magical like that.
Recoil42@reddit
For same/similar price, the point being made is that many Chinese cars are indeed leaps ahead. If Jaecoo (which is a c-tier brand) and IM/MG (a b-tier brand) are all you've experienced, you aren't getting the full breadth of it. Zeekr comes to mind as one stand-out, Xiaomi an obvious other, but even BYD's Dynasty models have quite a bit to discuss for the coin.
gt4rs@reddit
Fair point, but the ones I've experienced are what's in my market and their respective price points. If we go back to my first comment I'm not talking about their capability but rather that they're not offering 100% of a European/Korean car for 80% of the price, to put it simply.
Taking the J5 as an example, the reason to be impressed is that they have managed to get a car in that segment to that price point, not because you get Sportage reliability and quality with a big discount. You can tell how they achieved it.
The value proposition in the UK as you get more premium in my opinion becomes harder to justify if anything. I mentioned those cars to say that I'm well aware they are capable of building good quality, but they really do charge for it. At £47k starting for the IM6 and Sealion 7 you've got to really trust the brand to part with Model Y/mid trim Ioniq 5 money for a brand that's relatively new to the market, one of which has a questionable history with the cars they've released so far. Not to mention the residuals that will likely take a chunk out of the savings you made on the purchase price too.
19Ben80@reddit
Those are all the budget brands and if you compare to say Dacia they are fine.
Look at BYD as the yardstick, they are a mid range brand that generally outperform European mid level brands by some way
gt4rs@reddit
Compared to Dacia yes, but that's the only European brand I'm aware of that has rust issues, elsewhere in that segment i.e. Stellantis or Kiyundai have it figured out. It's difficult to compare because their budget offerings are cheaper than the competition so you can justify the quality in that way, but it also remains true that the quality isn't as good as other cars which is the crux of my point. Also having seen some of the issues that people are having with the Jaecoos, I don't think that reliability is acceptable at any price point.
BYD is one I left out because I recognise that I'm in the minority with this opinion, although I've only been around the Seal and Sealion 7 and not the cheaper models if that's what you're expecting me to compare with.
First thing to note is that here they're not any cheaper than the competition - the Sealion 7 I drove was £65k which is BMW iX3 money, that's fine if it's good enough to justify it but I didn't think it was. Their interiors look nice but I'm not a fan of the way they feel, it's on par with Kia and Hyundai which I have similar thoughts on where the switchgear and general materials fall short of an actual premium brand despite looking good. For all the shit Tesla gets, the Model 3/Y interior feels better built and though it doesn't look as nice it's probably where I would rather be. The Sealion 7 also made my dad carsick which was a first for a modern car, and had some strange throttle programming that I wasn't a fan of. So yeah, good on paper but not so great on the smaller details off the spec sheet is the summary of my experience with them.
19Ben80@reddit
It’s not really about individual opinion and rather the mass market. I don’t like them personally but journalists have been singing their praises constantly in Europe
gt4rs@reddit
Exactly, I'm well aware and like I said that's why I left out my personal opinion on BYD in my earlier comments.
But even though I don't believe the 'they're paying them off' theories, I'd also take journalists opinions with a grain of salt, the common theme is that they're often wowed by the price point which means it gets a pass on some corners cut. Valid but once again, a case of you get what you pay for - you're not getting the same experience as a Kia for 80% of the price.
ShoogyBee@reddit
Well, the Buick Envision and the Volvo S90 that are sold in the US have been assembled in China over the past several years.
POSVETT@reddit
That's not what the OP meant
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
No, but it shows that their turning out solid cars. They've invested a lot in production
cookingboy@reddit
I mean for comparable models, the Chinese auto industry has been producing higher quality cars than American factories for literally decades.
For example Shanghai GM and Changan Ford has been building more reliable cars than Detroit. American brands actually have a reputation of being high quality and reliable in China because of that lol.
And Tesla built in Shanghai (which is also exported to Europe and other places) is very well known for having much better build quality than Tesla’s Austin and Fremont plants.
bombs551@reddit
I lived in China for 2 years with constant back and forth on business for a third. A lot of the Chinese cars were very nice to ride in, looked good, and were comfortable. Haven’t owned one so can’t tell you how that is.
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
I still haven't seen one up close. I've been fascinated by British reviews, their not as refined and very tech heavy but you're getting a lot for the money.
I_amnotanonion@reddit
I saw some Lynk & Cos in Detroit a couple years ago and they looked very nice, but Geely has had a leg-up for a while
That1one1dude1@reddit
Unless there’s some easy legal way to get them here, it won’t have much effect other than reducing US manufacturing power overseas
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
I'm getting the feeling that we'll make a similar deal to the Canadians. We're going to have an export we need them to buy and they will negotiate car tariffs down.
That1one1dude1@reddit
Why? I don’t see any politicians supporting that
ALOIsFasterThanYou@reddit
I think it's entirely plausible that with the next three years, another trade spat arises with China for whatever reason, and they stop buying our soybeans again. Then as part of the 'final' trade agreement (this time definitely!) they agree to buy soybeans in return for opening the market to their EVs.
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
They won't until an industry with a powerful lobby sees a massive opportunity in China.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
Flood ? I don't think that would happen in America. Most people would still pay long loan in expensive huge trucks.
No doubt Chinese making better cars, but brand reputation needs time to built. Japanese and Korea have taken decades building.
AssignedCatAtBirth@reddit
There hasn't been a domestic auto industry in Australia or NZ for years.
We are importing cars either way. Might as well get the best quality/tech for the best price
Skeptical0ptimist@reddit
This is not a free trade agreement. It is a import quota of 50,000 vehicles per year from China. A pretty low volume.
It’s unclear if this would even affect car market prices. You’d probably have to get in a waitlist, once 50,000 cars have been sold, then you’d have to get on the next year’s list. Incumbent deals can just ride out the short period if Chinese models are proven popular.
bombastica@reddit
Can I just like get a Jimny instead?
ahmadmz3@reddit
During the years 20-25 the export of Chinese cars increased to account for 30-40% of imports/car sales. Its actually much welcomed change having the Chinese cars during that period as other cars prices increased dramatically and many people cannot afford getting non Chinese cars. I cannot speak for countries where cars are manufactured and how are they were affected, but for non car manufacturing countries its a positive change.
death_buy_spoon@reddit (OP)
By all accounts, most of them are solid affordable transportation at the low end. Their also innovating and may bring the price of entry level luxury cars down.
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