SongSpy was probably my favorite. So under the radar it didn’t have a lot of the issues some of the other platforms had. It had that cool ranking structure thing. Probably my favorite thing was all of the little known, obscure bands that you could find on it.
I was even banned (and then unbanned) when Metallica started suing everyone. I don't even care... the music discovery I got from years of using original napster led to decades of addition discovery through a dozen other means... it was just the beginning of a long line of great music experiences that are sadly now just a distant memory. Sorry kids.
Limewire had better P2P interaction. I would find archivists with similar taste, then basically trade hard drives. Found a lot of underground and rare shit along with complete discography of popular artists.
Same! I never got into Napster but my iPod was full of Limewire stuff. I've paid for Apple music for at least the last five years, so I'm sure I've made up for it.
I was the goody-goody who only used it for live bootlegs and other tracks unable to be purchased in the states. It never occurred to me to use it for music I could buy at the record store. I could have accumulated so much more…
I didn't know about SoulSeek until 2023. It literally has every trad pub ebook I've ever searched for. Even few of the indie published ones I've searched for.
In college I would start downloading a couple of songs before class. After class, I would see how many hadn't stopped and actually completed the download over the terrible 56k modem.
The music industry made a lot more money off me because of Napster. I'd hear songs I didn't know and ended up going to that store and buying CDs I wouldn't have had otherwise.
Desktop PC and power inverter in the trunk of my car running winamp with a numeric keypad control ran to the front and audio cable running to the head unit come at me bro
indeed. napster, limewire, and the lesser known (but imo the BEST) a p2p called audiogalaxy. I found the rarest music ever on audiogalaxy, stuff that was impossible to get anywhere else. the way it worked was extremely efficient in my experience. you could search for any file that was known to be available even if the host was offline, then queue it for download whenever the host came online.
The question is - do you still have those songs you downloaded? Did they make it through 25 years of computer and phone upgrades? One of my prized possessions is my music folder that I've maintained since the late 90s.
At the same time Napster was in the news there was another site called audiogalaxy that did the same thing but it went under the radar so it was around for a year or so after Napster was shut down. Great place for one-hit-wonders, bootlegs, and remixes.
I still have music I downloaded from Napster on my computer. It doesn't sound the greatest after moving to many computers over the years, but it's there.
There was this really fun Gin N Juice cover by like a bluegrass/jam band that I remember finding on Napster back in HS, we played it constantly before classes
I used Audiogalaxy to grab stuff to sample it before buying it, but I didn't keep things I didn't own beyond that. Which is fine, my own rips were always way better quality even back in the day where a 20GB dedicated media drive felt like a luxury.
Napster was the moment when I lost all respect for Metallica. Poor Lars is homeless now and has to beg on the streets because people shared his music on the internet
Same here. I spent money on a CD-RW drive before my junior year of college, which timed perfectly with the Napster launch and our college upgrading to T1. I’m generally a law-abiding citizen, but that’s practically sitting petty crime in my lap!
There were no restrictions back in fall of '99, and the computers in the computer lab had full local permissions. Napster was found on every single one of those bitches, and not only that, but a random library of songs. So late at night I'd log into a row of 10 of these computers, then download whatever was on there to my zip disks (remember those?) then I'd dump that to my own computer, rinse and repeat. The variety was quite good because it was all music that people my own age were listening to at the time, and I got introduced to a lot of new bands/artists this way.
My car still has a cd player in it and I busted out my burned cds that simply say “mix” and sometimes the year (2000-2004) and let me tell you the happiness I have had in listening to the surprises on there. It’s a fun kind of Russian roulette.
I remember being at home and using Napster on dial up. Wondering, do I really want to add this to the download queue? Then came freshman year in the dorms with high speed…
That and making a fake ID with my scanner, great moments in tech for me.
I bought a fake ID from somebody in my dorm. They made my birthday 9/11 (I was a freshman in 2002) and if you put the address in MapQuest it was about a mile into the ocean.
Never got caught, mostly because bouncers didn't care.
Tried it. Not for long. Mostly limewire or others. Funny thing is anytime I see the word Napster it reminds of one of those flash cartoons that were popular at the time. Anyway, it was mocking Metallica with their battle with Napster and James is this giant goon and all he can say is “Napster bad” and that’s always what comes to mind.
Even my mom, who is smart but not incredibly tech savvy, found music on napster. She also proceeded to buy the cds to support the artists she liked and to listen to them on her stereo/headphone setup. My friend also met his wife on napster and had two kids with her, so there's that too.
Oh yes! This was in high school. You could not get that much music without buying like hundreds of tapes or CDs so this was like coming across a music goldmine. And it only took like 40 minutes to download each single, lol.
Yes definitely along with gnutella. Gnutella is what most people remember since majority of programs used it like Kazaa LW BS etc. Once the Nap servers went down it was the next step until ed2k and torrents came along.
Some of them are still around like SoulSeek, DC, ed2k, there's even still gnutella ones.
Napster, Kazaa, LimeWire, BearShare, WinMX, Audio Galaxy, SoulSeek, Direct Connect++, eMule/eDonkey2000, AOL, mIRC, FTP, Newsgroups, even the shitty websites with Warez split up into 80 files. If it was there I was using it 😂. Was in several Warez groups back in the day uploading/serving/mming/phishing.
Internet was way more fun back then.
Yeah, that was me too. I surprisingly had great luck on the websites with the music and warez split up into 600 zip files. XDCC over IRC was always my favorite as it was way more reliable to download from the bots than fragments over p2p.
I'm trying to remember all of my warez sites. astalavista.box.sk was always my go-to for cracks and patches. I remember in early 1997 right before we got a cd burner, I was on a warez site where you would request games and somebody would burn them on a cd and mail it to you. I actually still have that first cd.
Yup I remember AstalaVista that was like the main cracks place. iceWarez off top of my head was one of the pages. I used to run XDCC server on IRC when our porn group ESP from AOL moved to it. Eternal Suppliers of Porn in pr: smut. 😂 I still have the group tag we used to do use on every email/text file.
My brother in law was into this hard when him and my sister were dating. Circa 1999-2003 ish I guess. My highschool years going into early college years. (They got married in 2005). Anyways my sister called it Napterbating.
He's Napterbating right now.
Oh man, but the CDs he burned for back then!!! Late 90s early 2000s.
I never really used Napster because the program I had on my PC worked better with YouTube. I would rip the audio from all the music videos I liked and burn it onto CDs. I was a genius when it came to computers and the Internet but sadly due to health issue I am now dumber than a box of rocks.
Started with Napster but the real hero of my time was AudioGalaxy. You could find the most obscure tracks there. One person in Alaska with the file, a 14kb connection, a week and a prayer and you'd have it.
I just realized this while writing a reply to another comment about ftp.. if you use the old "/indexof/(content name you want to find)" trick in google, it will still take you to private ftp servers with the content!
That helped me win a trivia trophy on a cruise. Cover song trivia where we got points for the name of the song, original artist, and cover artist.
The host played that song and said “no one ever gets this one.” My wife and I got it *immediately*. This was before the days of Shazam or even reliable internet on the ship, but I’m sure people thought we were somehow cheating anyway.
I got really into the punk/diy/indie scene in college from 98-02. Going to 3X shows a week, doing promotion, etc. MP3.com was how I found bands freshman year. My sophomore year roommate taught me about Napster, before it really blew up, so I basically filled my HD and really expanded my horizons.
Thing is, it was hard to put together full albums that way, so I actually wound up buying a lot more CDs for 2-3 years to be a completionist. Find half the obscure EP on Napster, then buy the rest.
> Thing is, it was hard to put together full albums that way
I have a funny story about this. You're right, it sucked downloading each individual song because some of them might have been at different bitrates or normalized at different levels. But I downloaded all the songs to Crystal Method - Vegas that way and burned them to a CD. Nero sorted the tracks in alphabetical order, so that's how the CD was burned. I listened to that burned cd for YEARS and it was one of my faves. Then, many years later when I was deep into my 20's I was listening to the album at a friend's house and the songs were all out of order. And that's when I realized that I had been listening to the album out of order the entire time. Even to this day, I can't listen to it how the tracks are supposed to be - I have to listen to it with the tracks in alphabetical order. lol
I was downloading mp3s before Napster, off the newsgroups and on shady FTP sites that sometimes had ratios (upload 4 MB and you can download 40 MB). I never thought Napster would catch on.
I never used Napster because I was heavily into using mIRC to download music. I think at one point in college I used kazaa but I avoided Napster because by the time it got popular enough, the whole lawsuit with Metallica happened.
I stopped listening to Metallica after that whole thing. They got big because they bootlegged their music and sold it outside of their music contract. Then they get big and Lars decides that fuck Napster, I don’t want our music being bootlegged anymore. That lawsuit not only fucked over music sharing, but it fucked over most other musicians, making it harder to break into music and turning record label corporations into these monstrosities that can sue anybody at any time.
Oh boy, I spent an unhealthy amount of time on IRC when I was young. I’d find myself on DALNet every once in a while, but I mostly stuck to Webchat or Webmaster or whatever they called it. It was a larger network but not one of the “big 3-4.”
In the mid to late 90's, our town had a small ISP (remember when we had those??) who hosted their own IRC server. It was the online gathering place for a lot of the nerd crowd during that time. We had a pretty tight little group, and I remember coordinating meetups with everyone from the IRC server at our mall in 1997. That was back when talking to strangers on the internet was taboo. I really miss that group and wish I would have known to keep in touch with them over the years.
My parents were one of the first houses to get 1mb cable internet service in our town in '98. I was always the friend who downloaded stuff for everyone else. I made GOOD money in high school by downloading albums and burning them to cd's for people.
I have no idea how I learned about it, or even learned how to use it but mIRC was my shit!!! 0-Day downloads of whole albums, movies, even PS1 games. Mind you I’m far from a computer guy…but where there’s a will there’s a way. What a time to be alive!
Before I knew about mp3s I had a CD player hooked into the microphone jack of my computer. I recorded songs in Wav files that were huge and listened to them that way. When I learned about mp3s/Napster I cried with joy.
Yes! By the time Napster was around, I had started only buying music on vinyl. My friends would give me shit for downloading so much music but I was also buying way more music at the time
I think that napster happened while I was on my mormon mission. I got to college in 1998, and people used an app called scour.net. I discovered a few bands like apocalyptica and others. Then when I went on my mission, I didn't have access to any of that. I got home in 2001 and scour.net didn't exist anymore.
I sat listening to the radio with my tape recorder ready to record when my favorite song came on. Also got CDs from the library. Signed up to some of those record label free CDs and you only pay shipping deals too. Or that’s how I remember it.
Later on used Napster when it first came out and thought it was incredible. But not for full albums. 56K modem. Are you kidding?
But I was accumulating enough individual songs that I started saving up to buy a Diamond Rio mp3 player.
Napster was cool because I discovered some music I never heard of cause I felt like randomly downloading it.
Aphex Twin is one that comes to mind. I downloaded his song Flim and was like "what gold did I just dig up!?" and it went from there.
It was also nice because I couldn't afford tapes in the 80's so I finally got to listen to all of people's discography like Oingo Boingo, Devo, Thomas Dolby, etc.
Considering all I listened to in 2000 was NuMetal and Industrial music, it was nice finally opening up my world to great works.
Napster, Limewire, KaZaa
And mostly I downloaded stuff I already knew about, but I did find a few bands that I ended up with while downloading the planet
[Fightstar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fightstar) is one of them, I randomly downloaded *Grand Unification* and rocked that album hard on a burned CD in my car
That one was weird. It would combine 2 different files sometimes. First time i downloaded Sigur Rós, it combined one of their tracks with a reverby black metal track, I was like this is the coolest band ever.
Soulseek is still up and running, funnily enough.
...I think. Been about a year or two since I used it. But was still going strong then. Really good for more niche music not found on torrents.
Nice!
I remember having about 250 GB of my personally-ripped music collection available on SoulSeek and one user dm'd me to berate me for how poorly it was organized, lol.
> berate me for how poorly it was organized
Haha, what a dickhead.
As in just whinging about the folder structure? Crazy that people would put themselves through even caring about that at all, seeing there's the id3 tags.
yeah, it was something like that. This was like '07 so I dont remember their exact complaint by my response was something like "Dude I dont organize my files for your enjoyment" and they just shut up and downloaded some stuff. Somehow that's the memory that sticks with me on Soulseek, besides finding so much good stuff that I
couldn't elsewhere.
I might have to check it out again, thanks for the heads up!
Napster was my jam because it had all the European techno that I was into at the time (Hackers was also my top movie- I was young). I actually got a threatening cease and desist letter related to Lars and Metallica simply because I downloaded one of their song, which I had deleted after a few minutes due to it not being so good. Never listened to Metallica after that.
In 98 I saw Modest Mouse at my university. It was not a good show. Walked away not impressed.
A year later gave Talking Shit about a Pretty Sunset.
The next day I bought all the Modest Mouse CDs I could.
Thanks, Geritol.
Mostly, no. Napster sucked ass. P2P didn't get good until Soulfire and Limewire. I downloaded the most music via torrent, by far. That downloading one song at a time stuff sucked.
I used Napster a little but what really stands out for me was actually pre-Napster and it was called Hotline. That was teenage me’s favorite source for not just MP3’s but pirated software and adult materials.
I just started college when it started to become popular. It used so much bandwidth at the campus that our IT blocked it. I had two alternatives: AOL music bot channels and MIRC. AOL one was pretty good until they finally cracked down on them. MIRC was my only choice. Anyone else remember using those bots that gave you lists? Fun times.
I can't remember why I wasn't able to use this on the Family computer. But I got a PC for college about a month before going or so and started downloading like crazy. And then got to college and had crazy fast internet, but Napster went down pretty much as soon as I got to college. Then it was LimeWire and Kazaa.
Not only did I find my music here but when I came home for Thanksgiving 2000, I tried downloading music home and wondered why it was taking hours to download a three-minute song. Forgot that I had the luxury of an Ethernet connection in my dorm.
No but when I was in broadcasting school in 2003, thats when they were trying to crack down on the illegal downloading and one of our projects was to make a commercial. We made one for Napster, it was a lot of fun!
Napster was ok but the audio quality was crap. Lots of random static or in the middle of the song you would have a vlipp. I was a dj during the time and would have to really proof each song ..Audiogalaxy was way better .
For a time, sure. Eventually I learnt to appreciate lossless downloads from UseNet instead.
However, that meant eventually burning to them to CD, which also meant printing off the CD labels. It all became a pain. Now I have binders and binders of these CD's, and frankly, I don't listen to them. I listen to my commercial CD's mostly, and LP's from before that.
I used bearshare. I liked the interface and I felt it did a better job than others at making sure something downloaded successfully even with many connection interruptions.
Yup, I used them all too. Toss in Morpheus, Kazaa Lite, Win MX, bear share, and Mirc. Early Napster was the best though, I found Limewire to be too infested with corrupt files.
I did until my college roommate’s boyfriend downloaded a ton of fucking Metallica to my laptop. I was one of the people who got banned 🙄 I never switched to Limewire, which probably saved me from tons of viruses at least
Hmmm not pirate bay fans? Or utorrent? Shit there was another one escaping my brain ( not limewire) But those were the days.
Watching crap movies shot on handheld video recorders the people walking around mid scene and the tin can audio. I know we are talking music but man that was a different time.
Yeah I used Kazaa too, I remember waiting over 2 days to download the second matrix movie only to discover when it finally finished downloading that it was just the first movie with the file renamed. I was gutted.
I had few people I met on limewire that had my taste in music. It was slow but we traded hundreds GB of rare, bootleg, vinyl. Pretty sure most of these recordings aren't available anywhere completely lost to time. But, because of that, I can get away using all these underground samples without a copyright strike.
Oh yeah, I was there at the start. Started college in 1998 and I was literally going onto FYP sites and kind of just seeing what they had. Those sites had upload/download ratios too (you had to upload 1 MB of new stuff for every 10 MB you downloaded, etc.)
The arrival in spring/summer 1999 of a program that just let you search and pull mp3s from one central source was amazing.
Hell, no! I used WinMX until it was sadly shut down, and then SoulSeek for many more years afterward. But I must've been in the minority or something, because not many other people seem to know of those.
I didn't use napster, just remember beign 13 years old and learning of it because of the Metallica lawsuit that happened to playing on a random tv tuned to the news station at a goodwill. Im pretty sure same night I downloaded Limewire and eventually Mirc to download via ftp. Arghhh matey!
Find music on Napster? That's not how I remember doing it. I definitely acquired music there, but I still *found* music from the radio / magazines / friends.
My sophomore year in high school we had to do a presentation on step-by-step instructions of “ how to do something” basically practicing PowerPoint. I taught everyone how to pirate music on Napster. 🫠 My teacher thought it was great. Haha.
Napster + recording songs to CD and having a playlist you can take to your car afterwards was a "holy shit" moment. Then Limewire came around and we could continue the unfinished download instead of having a half downloaded mp3. The internet was evolving super fast in those days.
Some, but there was a number of spots; scour, audiogalaxy, limewire, win mx, my colleges network. Napster was a spot but not the spot.
I got banned iirc for downloading pretty woman which was hilarious considering Roy Orbison had been dead for over a decade at that point.
No, I had a couple of really good radio stations that I listened to, or I'd talk to the guy who ran the local record shop (and ran a big bootleg recording operation under the table. I still have some of those tapes)
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