I think that about sums it up. Doesn’t even matter who you vote for or what your political leanings are. 90’s were great and now we are watching is all come down.
I have not heard anything about this guy since the “Leave Britney Alone” video, and I just googled too. I don’t know what I was expecting, but it was not that.
Trust me, if I could GTFO of here, I would have done so *years* ago. Unfortunately, my family has been here for about 150 years before the USA existed, so...🤷🏼♀️
On the other hand, there are roughly 340 million Americans, so that 70 million are by **no means** the majority. So *you* could always leave, but I'd wager your prospects are far more constrained than mine
Mine came over in the 1600s as well, so I'm not going any fucking where. Also, 70 Million was a crushing majority of people that actually can and do vote.
I feel a lot of people see it as: America used to be amazing from top to bottom and now America is a mess from top to bottom; but
I see it as: America used to Appear to be amazing from top to bottom, but now the world sees that America is deeply depressed, has been used/abused, since birth, and has severe mental health issues….
Yeah I dunno where these people were in the 80s and 90s saying everything was sunshine and roses. Reagan fueling the Crack epidemic in inner cities, race riot in LA, way higher homicide rate all over the country, etc.
It's just nostalgia glasses.
Well, I was too young to notice all that. I just noticed that I suddenly had my mom buying my school supplies instead of the school providing everything. Honestly it feels like a hallucination when I think about it.
As children we didn't have to concern ourselves, that was for adults to deal with.
Now unfortunately we ARE the adults.
It's easy to think things were better when you were a kid because you were most likely insulated from a lot of reality.
I really don't like seeing our generation making the same mistake as boomers in thinking the "good ol days" were ever a thing except for the wealthy and privileged.
The difference is social media. These days everyone seems to have an opinion about everything, and the need to let others know about it. Back then sure we would see the issues on the news, but if it wasn’t directly affecting our lives we didn’t worry too much about it and didn’t feel the need to have a strong opinion about it… and the reality is most of these issues don’t really affect our daily lives if you don’t let them
But in the 80’s and 90’s I didn’t have to pay rent and I only had to go to school for 6 hours a day and I got summers off. It was the greatest time to be an Uhmerican.
There were good things but yeah. All those things you mentioned ( AIDS too) + the pressure of having to look and dress like you were an "uptown girl" , all that consumer shit meanwhile your parents are listening to Jerry Falwell and Rich Limbaugh
Rose tinted glasses aside there was a significant drop in crime in the 90's and we have lots of evidence pointing to an entire cohort of people that were never born to parents that didn't want them in the first place.
We used to have a huge amount of social safety nets. Those were all destroyed for Xennials in their childhoods. Between clinton and reagan, everything that protected the citizenry and made the middle class was destroyed.
But hey, the stock market loved it.
Boomers inherited social mobility, high wages, affordable college, affordable housing, union jobs raising real wages for entire communities.
Then they called all that “welfare” AFTER they benefitted completely and actively and progressively fucked over gen X, millennials, and gen Z.
Then they have the gall to say we’re all complaining and should lift ourselves by our bootstraps like they did. Shit, cheeseburgers now cost more than a semester of college back then.
Strange to ponder that the name millenials became so media present most people forget it was called gen Y, when the obvious could have been gen Why, because as a whole when presented with incongruities about how it is the whole generation always said "Yes, but why?"
And college wasn't a for profit sports based enterprise then either. I was going to say institution instead of enterprise but colleges, even state colleges, are mostly businesses instead of institutions of learning. There are of course eschelons in some of these places where actual science is happening but otherwise they're pumping out Bachelors of Communication Studies enjoyers and such. Which is totally fine to get your foot in the door most places but at what cost these days!
The late 90s and early 00s were definitely a little better, but I've been saying this shit was coming since back then in high school. Everyone i know was calling my cynical and blowing it off. The same people are now telling me how crazy everything is and how they can't believe it. Lol. Fun times.
Masked federal agents killing and kidnapping people at will with a federal mandate from SCOTUS allowing them to racially profile while the vice president openly claims the Constitution is just a piece of paper if you're within 50 yards of them, president and his golf buddies are literally threatening WW3 and the return of imperialism to distract from the fact that he spent 30 years raping and trafficking children, we're collapsing NATO and NAFTA while starting forever wars over oil in our own backyard, oh and we are actively watching right wing billionaires buy and he consolidate our already neutered 4th estate so they can spread propaganda like "we shouldn't regulate AI for a decade" all so their golf buddies can literally control the narrative of our species. But hey, everything is totally great otherwise!
Y'all are delusional fucking children being lead around by your noses by the 1%.
The issue isn’t just the one old fragile bastard though. It’s the fact that there are actually huge numbers of our fellow citizens that are dumb enough to support him.
I just hope he doesn’t take us all down while he’s living large in his underground bunker. I never thought this would be the world we live in but here we are.
We were all taught we were the worlds bastion of democracy and freedom, that nothing like this ( authoritarianism, facism) could ever happen here. What they didn't mention that it had happened here and was still happening to many groups of people in this country. White folks with money got freedom and demoracy. Everyone else got oppression.
>We were all taught we were the worlds bastion of democracy and freedom, that nothing like this ( authoritarianism, facism) could ever happen here.
That's why so many people checked out and stopped paying attention to politics. They figured the ship would always steer itself. We'd gotten used to unreasonable people not paying attention to politics that people let their guard down.
Now we're in this mess.
Couch boy won't be able to rally them. They'll still stick around for a bit but hopefully fade away. The real problem is Stephen Miller and the tech bros further destroying things.
I should have elaborated more. Does ICE dissappear? The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogoloo Boys are now in a government sponsored militia who have been given free reign to do whatever they want. Do they just go away? Are they going to relenquish that power?
They're going to have to be forcibly removed, most likely. They won't just disappear, but if enough of them are arrested and put back behind bars, they'll get the message.
His followers are pathetic morons. They’ll slither back to their trailer parks without him.
The only problem is when they find another sack of shit to rally them together again.
They always have been heavily armed. The people that follow this weak man’s version of a strong one do so because they are living in a constant state of fear because they’re dumb enough to believe all of the right wing lies. Scared people buy guns.
And ICE will see major cuts to its funding and shrink once the traitors are out of power.
The only thing I worry about is if we will ever get them out of power since we all know that they aren’t going to leave unless forced and I have no faith in our elections being fair. They’ve been doing everything they can to rig the game for a year now and we’re still several months away.
There are no direct heirs to a cult of personality. The entire point is everything around them is so webbed solely to them that when they go, the rest shatters. This doesn’t mean they will “stop”, just that there will be no single person for a long time, if ever, leading them instead breaking into endless squabbling pretenders for the adoration of the faithful.
This movement doesn’t die with him. If we go back to the same old deregulation and privatization another person will fill that role. This is a well organized and well funded right wing movement that has been building for 50 years
That how you get the grunts on board but the big funding and organization came when regulations started eating into profits while the rate of profit was falling. The wealthy started think tanks, lobbying firms, and change campaign finance laws so that they could own the politicians while building a media apparatus that scapegoats it all on minorities, immigrants, liberals, commies, etc….
You think this is better? Our press getting attacked and arrested. Secret police arresting citizens. Concentration camps. Absolute corruption and incompetence in the highest offices.
It wasn't perfect but it was 1000% better.
You can get a golden visa in Latvia for a surprisingly small amount (invest 50,000 euros into a company with fewer than 50 employees with less than 10 mil of revenue). There are a bunch of others too, but they are squarely in "gonna get creamed by a hurricane" land, so I'd probably pass on those. You can also buy into places like Italy or Greece for like 250k euros.
I love the irony in this. Absolutely the USA you grew up in was a crafted facade that very blatantly hid a much deeper darkness, one that anyone could have seen if they wondered "hey, I wonder why this young girl is being sexualized and what this says about our culture?", and the USA you live in now is literally the same thing just without the facade.
I have an internet friend in Uganda and I've been watching what's happening there this week... and basically just thinking, yep, that's where we are headed, so I better enjoy what I have while I can.
It comes and goes. Right now im at the point where i'm telling myself I've had a good life, now I want to make sure the younger generations of all races and creeds can enjoy some of what we enjoyed in the past.
May not have been your intention but you seem to acknowledge that it is insulting. That woman is clearly unwell and it’s sad. So yeah I’m conflicted as the meme is very accurate, a USA that looked healthy v a USA that’s clearly unhealthy & sad to see. But it’s a mean meme.
I will admit I haven't followed any news related to her since she was freed from the conservatorship, so I assumed she was doing better now...is that not the case?
I take it you haven't actually seen the video that screen grab from the right is from.
What little I've seen of her Instagram reposted on Reddit shows that she seems to be pretty unwell. I'm guessing she's unmedicated and in a manic or mixed state (as someone who has been there herself).
Gah!
I honestly don't know if she's mentally unwell or if I should take her at her word...I hope her family/the courts are at the very least still actively keeping up with her for her own sake.
Our current state of affairs has been in the making for decades upon decades. What's going in in Minnesota - think about the Civil Rights movement. Think about post-Civil War in the South (let alone the entire history of this country). The militarization and glorification of violence and might makes right and the rugged individual. Late stage capitalism and greed. Our current government reflects the underlying ugliness that has always been there. Lulled into complacency by a system that makes you focus so much on survival that all you have is fear of losing what little you have and then easily blaming the person next to you because it's simpler than being like, oh fuck, the whole system is built to screw 90+% of us to varying degrees.
You guys don't wanna hear it but this has always been America. We are a country built on slavery and genocide. The people who threw rocks at Ruby Bridges are still alive. America just took its mask off.
That said, there are more good people than bad and we can win. Minneapolis is fighting. Follow Minneapolis
The world was much better when everyone sexualised a 16 year old girl wearing a school uniform and is much worse now that that same woman is freely expressing herself online?
I'm sorry but I was in Africa and the Middle East for the GWOT and if you think the religious extremists have taken a day off then you're fooling yourself.
There are still Somali warlords who try to starve people to death.
Things were going really good in the late 90s.
The early 90s recession was forgotten about. OJ was no longer making news. The LA riots and Biggie/2pac murders were no longer making headlines. A Federal building hadn't even been blown up by a truck bomb in 5 years! Iraq had already lost 2 wars, they couldn't possibly lose another war, right?
Then 9/11/2001 hit and reality shifted.
i love how Reddit made an identity of leaving Britany alone because the poor girl suffered enough, but now that she is out of her conservatorship and totally crashing, ridiculing her isn’t just acceptable, it’s encouraged
Lol people need to get out of the media machine and go live their lives if they really think this way. There's more opportunity out there than ever. You could be building a future if you weren't consuming fear porn 24/7.
Put your time and energy into things you can control and improve your lives. Letting other people manipulate you and distort your views is the best way to stay poor and miserable.
FFS, yes! It's so pathetic. Just like that sad ass "I know you are but what am I" level cope from OP above me. Goddamn, people in this group should be at least at least in their 40s. They need to stop acting like teenagers.
Wow, the amount of assumptions you've made is quite...interesting to say the least. It *is* in fact possible to be informed, engaged in one's community, volunteer activities, etc. and still be able to recognise the reality we're currently living in.
You revealed far more about yourself with the so-called 'fear porn' comment than you even know, but if you truly believe that, I'm very sorry for you.
Looking fine and normal but looking back theres a lot of bad shit happening behind the scenes, and now we just know the fucked up shit and dealing with the trauma of it?
For anyone else wondering why the Compton Cheerleading logo seems to be an ink stain, it's actually (perhaps obviously) a cheer cone:
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b496ecf3fdbad776530fbcebae5b30a3470369a5/156_71_1316_1645/master/1316.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=fdfd8593e03612623eb8a9f799d9a1b7
Or the first picture is what a portion of Americans got. The second is what our other countrymen and women have been getting all along. Hopefully, out of all of this, we can build a country where all of us get the first picture.
The only difference is the misery that we usually spread across the globe is happening in our own borders. Most of the things we enjoyed then were the product of misery in the global south.
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