Was “Sound of the Underground” by Girls Aloud groundbreaking at the time of its release?
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That song never fails to blow me away. It’s so edgy, experimental, cutting edge, and overall a perfect pop song. It sounds nothing like any other 2000s pop songs. Was it a big deal when it came out in 2002?
Immediate-Aerie6@reddit
Every person who doesn't like it should have their ears burnt off.
Perfect_Chipmunk2649@reddit
It was first song released after the band were created by a TV show - Popstars: The Rivals, and so not seen by most as artisticly credible. However I also think and thought at the time that it's a very good song.
boyforsale@reddit
It wasn't groundbreaking - in fact Addicted to Bass by Puretone which was released a few years earlier was very similar in style and had been a hit. That being said, it was instantly popular and probably would have sold a lot of copies even without the TV show.
Riovem@reddit
Right? And 2002 saw Lose Yourself, Just Like a Pill, Dirrty, and Without Me top the charts
And in terms of pure pop Gotta Grt Thru This, Just a Little, Round Round, All thebThings She Said, and Kiss Kiss seem equally as "edgy" as Sound of the Underground
TheRemanence@reddit
If we're talking 2002 hits by girl groups with a similar vibe, surely "freak like me" by the sugababes is the obvious comparison
gnu_andii@reddit
"Freak Like Me" (the Sugababes version) is based on "Are Friends Electric?" by Tubeway Army from 1979. It was actually originally meant as a mashup but they couldn't get rights to the original vocals. Hence drafting in the Sugababes.
TheRemanence@reddit
Indeed. Although we should also recognise Adina Howard. It's a mash up of her song freak like me and are friends electric. It was richard X
I do love gary numan. He still tours regularly in case that's your thing
ParmigianoMan@reddit
It’s a cover version of a mashup, which is about as postmodern as music gets.
Ok-Explanation1990@reddit
Nice to see Gary Numan get a mention.
Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit
The original mash up is better. It's called We Don't Give a Damn About Our Friends. The Sugababes were ok but Adina Howard just has a better voice.
Riovem@reddit
In my head I thought Freak Like Me came out the year before. But yes! Definitely!
Content-Activity-874@reddit
More relevant than anything they said above
dinobug77@reddit
It wasn’t groundbreaking at all. But it was 100% not what was expected from the kind of safe, cheesy, bland, radio pop that those TV talent shows always churned out.
Content-Activity-874@reddit
At this point in history the only TV talent show winner we had was the very intentionally planted and newly crowned Kelly Clarkson. We were still to meet that gloomy fate they enforced upon us.
Voidfishie@reddit
In the UK we had Hear'Say from the prior season of Pop Stars to Girls Aloud, and Gareth Gates from Pop Idol. Fame Academy s1 might also have already happened? So not a lot, but not nothing.
polkadotska@reddit
Will Young beat Gareth Gates! Fame Academy S1 finished a week or so prior but the winner wouldn’t release their first single til a month later. Both Pop Idol and Pop Stars had given us bland opening singles, Fame Academy was marginally more interesting (because it was self-penned), but yeah basically every other reality show song had been bland, safe slop so compared to that Girls Aloud sounded very different and far more interesting.
Voidfishie@reddit
I looked up which one of them won and still got it wrong, oops!
gnu_andii@reddit
It might have been the first original song? The Gates and Young ones were all 60s covers, so maybe trying to copy Fame Academy with something new.
gnu_andii@reddit
"Addicted to Bass" was a hit in the UK early in 2002, so still quite recent by Christmas. I don't see the similarity myself. The Chavs Aloud song is dull and unremarkable.
Most of the chart success was down to the TV show. Hence the rival boys song being #2.
Familiar_Radish_6273@reddit
It was a way better song than Addicted to Bass. One of best songs of the noughties.
woo0lyhat@reddit
It was a bold first choice for a girl band created by a TV Show, at that time. Considering most TV show winners would be saddled with songs like Evergreen and Pure and Simple etc.
Informal_Ad4284@reddit (OP)
They always gave singing competition winners the worst songs lol. Always a sappy ballad
Petcai@reddit
No. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you didn't get Puretone - Addicted to Bass in 1998 either? That's what it was inspired by.
Speedbird223@reddit
Wikipedia says that in an interview of the composers of Sound of the Underground was inspired by WHEELS ON THE BUS! 🤣 yes, the nursery rhyme…
Hal9000ha1@reddit
Wheels on the bus is more edgy.
zig131@reddit
The comedy musical act Frisky and Mannish have a bit where they sing nursery rhymes to the tune of Sound of the Underground:
https://youtu.be/IRdjz6xYHJY?si=3Kss2SKYI6_WuN8x
Explains why it works so well!
narnababy@reddit
Omg a frisky and mannish fan in the wild! Hello! 😂
pm_me_your_amphibian@reddit
There are dozens of us!
D3M0NArcade@reddit
Pete Waterman claimed it was ripped off from a band called Orchid as well but there's no proof of either version of events
Petcai@reddit
Not ripped off, it was recorded by them but they disbanded before releasing anything. The rights to the song were owned by the writers/producers, not Orchid.
motific@reddit
Supposedly you can hear orchid's backing vocals in the chorus.
D3M0NArcade@reddit
"claimed" and "supposedly" are the key words...
nosniboD@reddit
“The beat of the drum goes 'round and around”
I’d be more surprised if it wasn’t listed as an inspiration
After-Dentist-2480@reddit
So edgy!
Takver_@reddit
'...goes round and round'
monpellierre2805@reddit
Sonic boom six do a mint ska cover of this
https://youtu.be/wXmFS4PzZbg?si=vPkCd6N-na3IVwUO
urmumsabrass@reddit
SB6 MENTIONED 🗣️🔊🚨
Briecap@reddit
Sonic Boom Six mention, nice! Speaking of their covers, I remember them randomly busting out a cover of Wycleaf Jean & The Rock's 'It Doesn't Matter' one of the times I saw them back in the 2000s. Was class.
Reetgeist@reddit
Noice
Gloomy-Being7064@reddit
Never heard that but theres a big chunk of it that is a clear rip of Super Sharp Shooter by Ganja Crew
Tmygn_@reddit
The S the U the P the E the R
Gloomy-Being7064@reddit
Absolute chewn
Otherwise_Living_158@reddit
The mix of it on The Nextmen’s “Personal Golf Instruction” is generational genius. Start at about 56 mins in - https://on.soundcloud.com/aN4qML19EHMDsb00Ke
Gloomy-Being7064@reddit
Yeah I've never heard that. It fits so well with the jay Z bit. Thanks for the link. Gonna 'rewind' and listen to it from the start
GeordieAl@reddit
I'm totally addicted to bass Wow whaa hoo
Love the video for that song too… it’s so Australian!
blinky84@reddit
I saw the actor that plays the guy in the yellow car in Edge of Tomorrow and was like "THAT GUY! WITH THE CAR!!"
It's Kick Gurry, I think he was uncredited for the music video but it was like instant recognition 🤣
TheRemanence@reddit
Thank you for reminding me of this song. So good.
msmoth@reddit
I loved that track!
Hookton@reddit
Holy shit it's a hot minute since I heard that song!
Figueroa_Chill@reddit
No.
sabotagednation@reddit
How naive and sheltered do you have to be to consider GA "edgy" and "experimental" 🤣🤣🤣
Dull-Amphibian-5779@reddit
Sorry but I think it’s the exact opposite of all those words. Other comments show that it was extremely derivative of Addicted to Bass and we’ve had some other one hit wonders enter the charts from actual edgy/non mainstream artists
Adventurous-Carpet88@reddit
I’ve got to ask this, do you have a few accounts? I keep seeing people from the states asking about mid range music on ask Brit pages and asking if it was groundbreaking or everyone loved it?
shelleypiper@reddit
I loved it and hadn't heard anything like it before. It was edgy for pop. I also loved the show at the time though and others would have hated the song on principle because they thought the show was lame. I was just the right age.
Level-Courage6773@reddit
I remember it being treated as a quality effort for a winning act from a reality competition, and they were noted as keeping the bar high as the singles rolled by. I recall both Girls Aloud and Xenomania being treated as credible by otherwise-snobbish music writers fairly quickly, even NME even called them 'pop it's OK to like'!
Sea-Environment5246@reddit
I thought it was catchy and it was nice to have a bit of guitar in a pop song. One thing it's not is "Edgy". It's girliepop with a bit of grit.
Swimming_Possible_68@reddit
No.
It was just a pretty big standard girl band song.
What about would possibly be groundbreaking?
SpectralDinosaur@reddit
It was a popular song, for sure, but I don't think anyone did (or does now) consider it "groundbreaking" or "experimental". It's a very typical pop song of the time.
googooachu@reddit
I do remember reading in Heat magazine at the time that the rival boy band thought their single was rubbish in comparison. Have to admit I don’t remember their song at all but I think it was a ballad.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
The boy band were awful. They all looked and sounded out of place, rather than being put together I think it was just the top 5 in terms of votes automatically made into a band. They played safe with a ballad and it was dire. Then the second single was a flop.
Katharinemaddison@reddit
‘If only I had Shakespeare’s taste in words’. That was the title. And chorus. It was terrible. I can even quote a line from it don’t know what that says ‘I would write a sonnet, put your name upon it’. Bad but some How etched in my brain.
superchartisland@reddit
Sacred Trust was the one that went up against Sound of the Underground. Shakespeare's (Way With) Words was their second (and last) single. It was more memorably terrible, I guess!
tunnocksmystery@reddit
SACRED TRUST! It was shocking.
IllustriousLimit8473@reddit
Girls Aloud also sang a version of Sacred Trust
tunnocksmystery@reddit
No! I need to find that!
Did One True Voice do a version of Sound Of The Underground then???
terryjuicelawson@reddit
The main groundbreaking thing I remember is that for a girl band and winner of a talent show, it wasn't shit. The boy band created from the same show were an awkward bunch who did a terrible ballad.
huwareyou@reddit
I think others are quibbling with the word “groundbreaking” but it’s absolutely true that the song stood out and was one of the very most memorable pop hits in Britain of that entire decade.
Agreeable_Falcon1044@reddit
It wasn’t groundbreaking but it was up against a very bland Ballard by one true voice. It’s a good song but sounded very late 90s
richStoke@reddit
Err no
Ok-Explanation1990@reddit
Its a great track, but I think the "groundbreaking" label belongs to "Beat goes On" by All Seeing I - which provided the rhythmic base on which the Girls Aloud hit seems to have been based
Puddleduck97@reddit
A young me liked the music video a lot...
letmegetmycardigan@reddit
If you like Sound of the Underground, you should listen to Body II Body by Samantha Mumba, which is a forgotten pop banger from the year 2000 💖
Stephen_Withervee@reddit
No it wasn’t groundbreaking. It was novel - like good pop songs are.
But Get the Party Started - Pink and Get Ur Freak On - Missy Elliot both 2001 were great songs, were nothing like each other, were from the States and were arguably groundbreaking.
What you’re experiencing is the allure of the exotic. A fascination with the distant, unusual, and foreign, driving desires for novel experiences.
WalnutOfTheNorth@reddit
“The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there”, by someone more insightful than me.
letmegetmycardigan@reddit
It’s the opening line of The Go-Between by L.P. Hartley, one of my favourite books of all time!
Oghamstoner@reddit
And some folk reckon you can get there on a blue passport.
spidertattootim@reddit
Gimme some new shit
Significant-Egg8119@reddit
No it was a pop song by a manufactured girl band
Low-Support-7090@reddit
No
Fantastic_Deer_3772@reddit
Imo yes. I remember the music video pretty vividly
Ready-Technician-876@reddit
I love Girls Aloud and if they're singing 'no good advice' I might even unmute the TV.
happymisery@reddit
Love Machine is great
One_Of_Noahs_Whales@reddit
Arctic monkeys did it better.
happymisery@reddit
Yep, same live lounge session as Imagine Dragons doing “Blank Space” - both absolutely awesome.
IllustriousLimit8473@reddit
Same.
eurocracy67@reddit
Not here in the UK - the girl bands were a mighty step backwards compared to Kate Bush, Fleetwood Mac, Siouxsie Sioux, Shakespeare's Sister, Yazoo or the Eurythmics. Stateside, you had Blondie, The Bangles and the B52's, so both sides of the Atlantic had a ton of genuine female talent
But I guess every band has its pinnacle and tracks that stand out
SilyLavage@reddit
I don't see why girl groups have to be pitted against 'genuine female talent'. Girls Aloud didn't hold Kate Bush hostage, after all.
eurocracy67@reddit
Perhaps if they had taken Kate hostage, Girls Aloud might have stopped being a below average generic band at a time dominated by below average, generic music. I don't know if OP is just trying to increase Search Engine or Social Media algorithm rankings but I wouldn't call any of their music experimental, edgy, cutting edge and overall a perfect pop song. The boy and girl band era was woeful - not because they were boys or girls but because the prior music was substantially better in my opinion.
Boldboy72@reddit
how do you figure it's "Groundbreaking" in any way? The guitar riff is a rearrangement of Misirilou from 1963 and the lyrics are generic 90s pop. Do you think the committee of songwriters were unaware of Surf rock?
Infinite_Spring_3564@reddit
No, but broadly speaking, the pop record-listening and -buying public in the early 00s probably were.
gnu_andii@reddit
Nah, this isn't the US.
Infinite_Spring_3564@reddit
What do you mean by that? I don’t think UK pop audiences of the time were any more particularly musically knowledgeable than those in the US. I don’t think either crowd would necessarily be immediately familiar with surf rock. I sure wasn’t, as a young teen who listened to pop music at that time.
Cheap-Vegetable-4317@reddit
I think compared to the majority of stuff you get now it probably does seem groundbreaking.
Wiedegeburt@reddit
The beat was slightly drum n bassy but obviously very toned down and made more into a generic pop style. Drum n bass is largely an English export created with the influence from Jamaican migrants so maybe that is why it sounds kinda exotic to a non Brit ?
PresidentPopcorn@reddit
It broke no new ground. It's a hodgepodge of Round Round by Sugerbabes, Addicted to Bass by Puretone, and Wheels on the Bus by fuck knows.
Mobile-Proof8861@reddit
Not particularly.
Cirieno@reddit
Whut?
Nilrem2@reddit
No
robthablob@reddit
No, it wasn't even the first pop song by a girl group in the 2000s to regurgitate better music in a sanitised form. It may have been an unexpected first single from the winners of a "reality" TV show, but that's about it.
West_Mall_6830@reddit
There were lots of what was ostensibly pop songs by UK girlbands that fit the criteria you said. This for example. https://youtu.be/eVG4Ix9GgFg?si=NGIB2MDawYBprmC4
Ser-Cannasseur@reddit
Krome & Times was.
TheSchofe@reddit
Is this a windup?
holytriplem@reddit
Not really. It sounded like just another song by just another manufactured name
smcl2k@reddit
I totally disagree. It might not have been "groundbreaking", but to suggest it's of a similar quality to something like Pure and Simple is just crazy.
gnu_andii@reddit
There's a lot more to manufactured pop than just what is produced by reality TV. The Spice Girls are technically manufactured, even if they did give their original organisers the heave ho.
smcl2k@reddit
The person I replied to didn't make any distinction, so why should I?
And even at that, I'd say Sound of the Underground is - from a musical point of view - a far stronger debut single than Wannabe.
Familiar_Radish_6273@reddit
Absolutely. It's lasted longer for one thing. You rarely hear Pure and Simple on the radio any more but SotU is still a banger.
Adamzey@reddit
I agree. It wasn't groundbreaking but pop music didnt sound like that.
This song came out in December 2002, the next song I see as similar was Toxic by Britney which came out a year later in January 2004. Britney said this about the song at the time "It's really different, that's why I like it so much."
A final point, Girls Aloud were up against the male boy band setup in Popstars: The Rivals, One True Voice, for the Christmas number 1. They released a much more traditional pop song for the time (https://youtu.be/8pJbk-dZvC0?si=iMSq95w6EAiPh-Rz) but as soon as they all heard SotU for the first time they knew they were beaten because it was fresh and different.
Shadow_Seas@reddit
Really?
Adamzey@reddit
That song didn't chart in Europe until after Sound of the Underground came out. The fact it was a sleeper hit in other markets in the years prior is a good indication that this was the direction the genre was moving in.
Bunister@reddit
"Charted in December" is a slight understatement. It was Christmas Number One (which is generally quite a big deal in the UK).
Adamzey@reddit
Agreed.
alexoftheglen@reddit
Addicted to Bass had originally been released in 1998 in Australia, even though both singles charted in the UK in 2002.
Adamzey@reddit
Yeah, must have been ahead of its time in '98.
D3M0NArcade@reddit
Yeh, and their version of a BeeGees song was shit by BeeGees standards so that didn't help. I swear it was already planned that GA were going to win so OTV got a song no-one would vote for
NoceboHadal@reddit
I agree actually. I don't think it will have talking heads on some nostalgia show saying how it set the world on fire, but it did stand out.
Ok_Finance_2001@reddit
Anything that's top 40 is manufactured according to Redditors
wg_wgwgwg@reddit
Yeah people are being way too snooty on this post
smcl2k@reddit
Yeah, it's a catchy pop song that would have been a hit even if it had been released 10+ years later.
Previous-Test-2696@reddit
It’s very different to how most female pop sounded in the US and also it’s not about longing after a guy (most early Taylor Swift) it’s designed to sound edgy
I think a lot of UK pop comes across as overproduced to American ears but this song works really well for a lot of Americans IMO
mtmp40k@reddit
Yeah, it’s about as groundbreaking as a feather.
holytriplem@reddit
Tbf, America followed different music trends at the time so it might have felt genuinely different for them, just not for us
holytriplem@reddit
I'm still laughing at the idea of a Simon Cowell outfit that won Popstars: The Rivals being groundbreaking haha
YchYFi@reddit
You are confusing Popstars with Pop Idol. They aren't a Simon Cowell band.
holytriplem@reddit
You're right. They were manufactured though
YchYFi@reddit
Of course they are. It was their main attraction.
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
Likewise, I actually snort laughed at this post.
motific@reddit
Our pop music scene moves way faster than you're used to in the US, so there's a good chance there's a lot you'll have missed out on.
It's a great pop song, but not especially groundbreaking in many respects. All the components in Sound of the Underground had been pretty common over the previous few years in UK pop music. The intro from the surf-rock classic Miserlou (1969, popularised in Pulp Fiction in 1994), the melody and drum patterns from the Buddy Rich sample used in All Seeing I's track Beat Goes On (1998), and the fingerprints of Puretone's Addicted to Bass (also 1998) are all over it for a few examples.
The writers/producers (Xenomania) have a pretty good discography, it's worth looking up.
gnu_andii@reddit
The most notable of which is "Believe" by Cher.
gnu_andii@reddit
No, it struck me as reality TV trash.
ThaiFoodThaiFood@reddit
No. It's a manufactured pop song sung by a girl band from a TV show. It's about as far away from ground breaking as you can get.
InfluenceAromatic293@reddit
Not even remotely groundbreaking, no
oudcedar@reddit
Groundbreaking enough that I’ve heard of the band but not the song.
AnneKnightley@reddit
It was very popular for sure and a great song but not groundbreaking. It was very different sound wise though which was cool.
Disastrous_Cloud_558@reddit
This is actually hilarious
vctrmldrw@reddit
Of course not. Jesus.
Subtifuge@reddit
Not really, it was one of the many synical pop repackages of the late rave movement and or breakbeat culture, one of many disposable tracks of the era much like Pinks attempt at DnB etc,
lilcheese840@reddit
Pinks attempt at what? Glad I missed that one
Subtifuge@reddit
Yeah I just remember being a kid growing up on DnB and Jungle, every one hating it, then some pop people started using breaks and dnb beats in their music, that being one of the tracks that stands out, but not enough for me to remember what is was
lilcheese840@reddit
My mum loved pink so idk how I missed that one, phew lol. When I think pop star using dnb my first thought is always tinie tempah
lilcheese840@reddit
My mum loved pink so idk how I missed that one, phew lol. When I think pop star using dnb my first thought is always tinie tempah
Halfdanr_H@reddit
I’d go so far as to say that nothing Girls Aloud ever did could be described as ‘groundbreaking’. Just a run of the mill manufactured pop act.
zorba-9@reddit
Manufactured sound by manufactured girlie group, one of many, clicked with kids of a certain age
Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit
No.
Manufactured pop crap at time of release and everyone knew it
None of these type of bands have or will ever do anything groundbreaking
Commercial_Region_76@reddit
I was about six or seven when it came out, so just about target audience (young girls). I do remember it was annoyingly catchy, we would all sing it on the playground pretending to be the girls from the band. It was probably one of the first new pop releases that I really remember being popular.
TheRealGabbro@reddit
Groundbreaking and Girls Aloud. That has to be an oxymoron surely.
SilyLavage@reddit
The production on their songs, mostly by Xenomania, is pretty highly regarded and was groundbreaking in pop terms.
TheRemanence@reddit
I wouldn't say groundbreaking but they were definitely doing more interesting pop music than other manufactured groups like atomic kitten or s club 7 and their ilk.
All saints, sugababes, eternal and misteeq were all making quality and interesting girl group pop hits before girls aloud. I'm not sure if this correlates but all of those were more organically formed from friend groups
SilyLavage@reddit
I think it's fair to call Xenomania groundbreaking. Whether working with Girls Aloud or the Sugababes, the way they played around with established pop conventions was fresh and different from the sound of the 90s girl bands.
TheRemanence@reddit
I think producing this type of music for a manufactured girl group and making it mainstream was innovative amd perhaps groundbreaking. They had some interesting time signatures and melody patterns on a lot of songs.
Early 00s was a great time for variety and innovation in pop music. These days the singles chart is very bland (partly streaming to blame.)
I don't think this type of music itself was groundbreaking even in pop. They definitely brought strong writing and a freshness to the charts. Might just be my threshold for calling something ground breaking is quite high.
spidertattootim@reddit
Not really.
SOHT definitely wasn't innovative, but a lot of their other songs were far more distinctive and did things that were new and interesting in pop at the time.
JCDU@reddit
Some sort of moron for sure.
pompokopouch@reddit
No. Sugababes already had a similar sound from years prior. They were groundbreaking.
okaycompuperskills@reddit
https://youtu.be/na3VYQN5kEc
This YouTube video about Freak Like Me is worth a watch
spidertattootim@reddit
No, it wasn't groundbreaking.
It was a good pop song (though not even one of their best IMO), but certainly not groundbreaking.
BubblerSpesh@reddit
Slightly-better-than-average production line pop made for people who didn’t seek out anything truly different. Pleasant enough. Slightly more unusual than most girl/boy band tunes. Has its place, but a conversation about groundbreaking ain’t it.
Plankton_Royal@reddit
It was a cheesy pop song when it came out, and it remains as such today
Salty_Pie_3852@reddit
No. There were quite a few pop-oriented tracks incorporating elements from jungle, Drum n Bass and UK garage at that time.
Nim008@reddit
No.
Agitated_Ad_361@reddit
Christ alive, the state of this question.
Several_Bluebird9404@reddit
🤣🤣. No.
Luton_Enjoyer@reddit
I was a huge train geek at the time so liked that song a lot because I thought it was about The Circle Line.
testdasi@reddit
To hear Girls Aloud through the Underground probably requires breaking the ground.
Verbal-Gerbil@reddit
As someone who detests manufactured pop, both the music it produces and the contrived concept, this was actually a banger by pop/x factor standards. However it had as much of an impact as a cover by Joe Mcelderry.
Commercial_Bear2226@reddit
I wouldn’t describe anything by the spice Girls as groundbreaking
ClarifyingMe@reddit
It's a tune and only boring people don't know how to unleash the true power of the song.
ukslim@reddit
Groundbreaking is possibly the wrong word, but it was audacious and unexpected. They were expected to come out with the standard mainstream pop at the time.
What they released instead mashed together a light commercialised breakbeat - nothing new, but new for a commercial pop band and twangy surf guitar, again nothing new but not expected from a commercial girl band.
We became used to pop being a bit more eclectic, borrowing from the dance scene, rifling history. But it was striking at the time, for a band with that background to be doing anything more interesting than disco-flavoured pop or ballads.
SilyLavage@reddit
The fact they were the pinnacle of 'manufactured' and released a song called 'Sound of the Underground' was a great dig at their detractors.
SilyLavage@reddit
It was a lot better than most people were expecting from the debut singe of a 'manufactured' girl group created for a reality TV programme, and its greatest impact was in showing that such acts could be good. Its sound was less novel, but a bit grittier than the norm for girl groups and so quietly influential in that way.
Xenomania were the producers behind a lot of Girls Aloud songs, and 'Sound of the Underground' is far from the weirdest thing they did. I think you'll enjoy 'Biology', 'Sexy! No No No', and 'Untouchable'.
polkadotska@reddit
As others have said, the song wasn't particularly groundbreaking - Addicted to Bass did it better a couple of years prior, and Sugababes were already around as the "edgy" girl band. What it did show was that Girls Aloud were likely the Real Thing and would have an actual career. As Popstars the Rivals (the show that created them) was heading towards the final, it was generally assumed that the boy band would be more successful than the girl band - there was a gap in the market for a British boyband which was to be managed by Peter Waterman (who at the time was still seen as a pop svengali, rather than a washed-up out-of-touch former hitmaker).
When the rivals songs were released though, it was immediately obvious that girls had the far superior track and outsold the boys by a healthy margin to grab the coveted Christmas No1. The song also ended up defining Girls Aloud's sound (fun, dancey, catchy, a little different - as opposed to ballad-heavy, earnest, or showcasing vocal gymnastics) and cemented their relationship with song producers/writers Xenomania. (In contrast, the boyband followed up their boring mid-tempo song with an even more boring mid-temp song, then promptly disappeared).
As others have said, you should definitely check out the various incarnations of the Sugababes who were doing this kind of stuff earlier.
Nemesis1999@reddit
It wasn't ground-breaking as a song in that it wasn't a new sound but it was very surprising in the context of the sort of debut single that was expected for a very visibly manufactured group. Contrast with what the boy group released which was the usual predictable, safe, easily forgettable fare.
It was considered edgy in that context.
ODFoxtrotOscar@reddit
I think ‘edgy’ might be going a bit far.
Perhaps not what people expected, but not unusual or innovative in any wider sense
Nemesis1999@reddit
edgy in the sense of taking a risk - manufactured stuff tends to play very safe to ensure it sells and in the context of this show, possibly even more of a risk. There was a realistic risk that the song and image they went for didn't click with the target market that would actually buy it
AccomplishedSteak165@reddit
No.
Venomenon-@reddit
Is this the same person who asked if Girls Aloud themselves were groundbreaking the other day?
dandotcomhacked69@reddit
About as ground-breaking as Lemon and Herb Nando's sauce is 'spicy hot'.
Party_Advantage_3733@reddit
It was a big deal when it came out, yes. Girls Aloud were formed on a TV singing competition and for that sort of format to produce a song like this was big. It was a massive hit and launched their careers in a way no-one before them had managed to do off the back of a TV show.
-_Redd1t_-@reddit
Popular at the time but not especially groundbreaking.
It was just one of many hit UK pop singles released during that era.
Shadow_Seas@reddit
Experimental? Cutting edge? In what way exactly?
It felt retro when it came out, averages 00s pop with 60s surf guitar.
Livin' La Vida Loca by Ricky Martin did the same thing, 4 years earlier.
After-Dentist-2480@reddit
It might be a “perfect pop song” to you, but it’s not edgy, experimental or cutting edge. It’s product.
BurkesRoad@reddit
Never heard of the song before. But I wouldn't be in the Girls Aloud demographic.
Lynex_Lineker_Smith@reddit
Good grief. No . No and thrice no.
Nogames2@reddit
No just another Catchy pop band song. A definite step backwards compared to 60s 70s 80s era music.
updownclown68@reddit
I don’t know, I wasn’t really into pop at the time but I love it now
Fun-Brush5136@reddit
For an x-factor / Simon Cowell act song it was quite good, though that's a low bar. They came from a TV talent show, which had a bit of a credibility problem, so nobody was talking about the song like it was groundbreaking or anything. But I remember thinking it was better than the usual slop that came out of those shows.
Their writing team did some other good ones for them as well. Normally I would have turned my nose up at it being an old goth/punk but occasionally I have a soft spot for some pop if it's done well.
Sugababes were in the same vein but didn't come from a talent show so had a bit more "credibility" (still manufactured to an extent though)
TooMuchBrightness@reddit
We had so much groundbreaking, innovative music artists at the time. Girls Aloud were just another manufactured girl band. Now All Saints on the other hand were fantastic, check them out. Sugar babes too if you like girl band pop.
snapper1971@reddit
I'm glad you like it. It wasn't anything groundbreaking or radical. It was another pop song from the quasi-factory production line of over produced music from a manufactured band. That entire ethos of making music to profit is hurting the music scene.
squirrel_bro@reddit
youre right, girls aloud have some amazing songs. biology was the bigger hit i think
EasternCut8716@reddit
Can you describe or justify your premise? It was a nod to the more edgy dance movements of the time, but as pastiche rather than something groundbreaking in itself, I remember.
Gisschace@reddit
Not really, Girls Aloud were part of a long line of girl bands; All Saints, Spice Girls, Sugababes all before them. I think as others say you’re used to the highly produced pop like Britney.
If you like Sound of the Underground the try Overload by Sugababes
Joel-Asher-Nicolaou@reddit
Hardly groundbreaking when you consider it's a cover version of a song that had been released the previous year by another girl band called Orchid.
Previous-Test-2696@reddit
It’s not uncommon for someone to cut a demo of something to prove it’s a viable sound
IllustriousLimit8473@reddit
Orchid never released any music, it was first recorded by Orchid, but never was released. It's the same case as many songs, originally recorded by someone else but that version is unreleased. Orchid still did backing vocals on Girls Aloud's version. Interestingly enough, Orchid's music is lost media now, it was online a few years after they recorded it, but it's lost again. I'm trying my best to find their music (same as many lost media things that I want to try find) and a few others here on Reddit are too.
Final_Anybody_3862@reddit
Wasn't this exact question asked a few days ago?
YchYFi@reddit
Not at all It just followed the way of guitars in Pop music at the time. They were just another pop group but this time made by TV.
Mikon_Youji@reddit
It was okay, but nothing out of this world. It just sounds like every other song that was released at the time.
YchYFi@reddit
Nope. It just followed the way of guitars in Pop music at the time. They were just another pop group but this time made by TV.
YchYFi@reddit
Nope. It just followed the way of guitars in Pop music at the time. They were just another post group but this time made by TV.
Exotic-Voice-4729@reddit
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Commercial-Hat-5993@reddit
I think the Fastfood Rockers were more groundbreaking
Standard-Pea3586@reddit
It was a catchy enough tune at the time.
kieranrunch@reddit
No. It was just another pop song.
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