Will I see a huge difference if I upgrade to the Ryzen 7 9800x3d
Posted by Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 18 comments
I have a 5080 with a amd ryzen 9 7900x I get around 200 fps on cod and Fortnite on performance mode and it I’ll drop below 200 I was told I should get close to 500 with a 5080 so my question is that is my current cpu holding back that much?
Material-Elk-3545@reddit
Hello I just wanna know Is it worth it to switch to AMD 9800x3d from Core I 9 14 gen
Knowing that I need to switch the motherboard The goal of the Upgrade to gain more performance gpu 4080s 1440p
suprememontana@reddit
Depends on the game and resolution. I upgraded to a 9800x3d/4080 S and am getting over 300 fps in BO7 at 1440p
Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit (OP)
Does 1080p limit frames bc that’s what I’m on
suprememontana@reddit
You’ll get even more frames at 1080p. Generally speaking the lower the resolution the more the CPU is involved
Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit (OP)
My buddy said I’d have bottle neck but I didn’t know what that mean
TommyWrightIII@reddit
9800x3d and 5080 is a perfect match, so whatever bottleneck he sees is imaginary.
xChali_2na@reddit
Nice! Got my 9800X3D and 5080 on its way. Looking forward to it!
BaronB@reddit
Yes, you should be seeing 300\~500 fps in Fortnite if you're running 1080p performance mode. I suspect you're experiencing one of a few possible possible issues:
If it's not #3, as others have said, you should be looking at your CPU and GPU utilization, and possibly more importantly temps. The Xbox Game Bar, or Nvidia overlay, or PresentMon, or HWINFO64 can all be used to monitor some or all of this info.
If your GPU is at around 90%, you're likely GPU limited. But you should not be GPU limited with a 5080. A GPU that's half the performance of a 5080 is capable of 500fps in Fortnite 1080p performance mode. So if it is at 90% that means something is very wrong with the GPU.
If the GPU is below 70%, it likely means you're CPU limited. But, again, you should not be CPU limited with a 7900X.
CPU utilization itself is interesting to look at, but tells you surprisingly little. You can be playing a game where it's only showing 15% utilization and you can still be CPU limited depending on how a tool calculates CPU utilization. For something like a 7900X which has 12 cores and 24 threads, most games are really only going to be using a small handful of those threads, and only one or two may actually be doing most of the work. The Ryzen 9 CPUs offer no gaming performance benefits over the Ryzen 7 or even Ryzen 5 CPUs. The 7900X specifically only performs on par with a 7600X in the vast majority of titles, and below a 7700X.
I personally like HWINFO64, because while it won't show you anything about usage or temps while in game, you can look at the history, and it'll tell you the max temps since starting to run the tool / last reset of the history. So if you load that up, check the temps before you run a game and make sure they're below 80C on both the CPU and GPU. Then run a match and check if it says you were thermal throttling or not. If the CPU is thermal throttling then something is probably wrong with your CPU cooler. If the GPU is thermal throttling it means there's an issue with your case setup, or the GPU itself.
Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit (OP)
My gpu is 88-90% and my cpu is at 47-50%
BaronB@reddit
What about when it drops to 200fps?
b-maacc@reddit
Look at your GPU utilization while playing, if it’s below let’s say 95% you’re most likely limited by your cpu. How much benefit you’ll get from the upgrade depends on how low the GPU utilization is.
Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit (OP)
How do you see this
b-maacc@reddit
The Nvidia app has an overlay that can show you performance statistics.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5084/~/nvidia-app-in-game-performance-and-latency-overlay
Alternative-Sherbet9@reddit (OP)
My gpu is 88-90% and my cpu is at 47-50%
Strong_Persimmon_915@reddit
My 7900X 4090 rig is slightly slow in 4K at around 100-140 fps average 126 fps playing the cyberpunk 2077 benchmark.
TheOmegaFalcon@reddit
Yep, especially at lower resolution (1080p or 2k at most) and CPU heavy games like microsoft simulator or CS
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
Depends on your resolution, Graphic settings, and if you’re GPU limited already or not.
If your GPU is already maxing out, a faster cpu won’t do much.
7900x is a really good processor already, only situation I can see a 9800x3d making a big difference is 1080p
TommyWrightIII@reddit
Depends. Every game behaves differently, also depending on the exact resolution and graphics settings. If I remember correctly, Fortnite is a CPU-heavy game, so you would see big improvements.