which is better? RTX 5070 TI or the RX 9070-XT
Posted by hazem1515@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 192 comments
im planing to upgrade my gpu into an rtx 5070 ti or rx 9070 xt , which is the best for gaming and casual stuff
my current specs
- CPU: Intel Core i7-14700F
- GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB (current gpu)
- Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS
- RAM: 64GB DDR5 6400 MT/s (4×16GB)
- Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD + 4TB HDD
- PSU: MSI MAG A850GN PCIE5 — 850W, 80+ Gold, non-modular
- Cooling: AIO Cube Gaming Blaze View 360mm + 4 casing fan
- Monitor: LG UltraGear 300hz 1440P
Wimmbu_@reddit
Prendi la 5070 Ti ha software superiore e non hai problemi di compattibilita
LacerationCe@reddit
5070 ti is no brainer, it's an objectively better card in EVERYTHING, anyone who tell you 9070xt is better in anything is straight up lying or misinformation.
5070 Ti is faster in Raster, way faster in RT, can actually play Path Tracing well where the AMD with crumble, and has better features set allround, from better upscaling quality to much better FG to far wider game supports, and consumes less power, and also has better headroom for overclocking and undervolting, it has everything better, no compromise in anything.
And biggest deal of all, much better longevity, AMD just pulled the plug and stop support all their previous gen from new feature, including $1000 last gen flagship, while Nvidia support very long and consistent even for RTX 20 series 8 years ago, there's no telling if AMD will support your 9070XT once newer gen release in a few years, or they'll cut you off, it's a huge risk. AMD cards age so poorly that if you look at the system requirements for most new games, you'll usually see that the requirement for older gen Nvidia cards are often lower tier than AMD, like E33 recommend 3070/6800XT, or Silent Hill F recommend 2080/6800XT, etc, you see the trend that Nvidia cards that used to be lower tier than AMD back then now considered roughly equal, so in the next few years don't be surprise to see big games recommend 9070XT next to 5070 or 5060Ti, no longer compare to 5070ti anymore, because AMD age poorly. This is the same as 5700XT vs 2070 Super back then, where people vastly overhyped the 5700XT for being slightly slower in raster but $100 cheaper, and has nothing else, now that card is basically obsolete with zero feature and no support, and usually seen next to 2060/S in game's system requirements, but the 2070S aged far better and still receive new feature like DLSS4 to breath more life into it, same situation now, AMD is a trap when they don't have Vram advantage.
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
Man really got scammed into buying a 5070ti lol. Enjoy your slower raster performance and your driver bloat overhead.
Sensitive-Pool-7563@reddit
DLSS> FSR as a 9070xt owner
AthleteDifferent1271@reddit
using ai 😭
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
Why use upscaling
Additional-Toe-6531@reddit
post above says otherwise he has both cards ..... talk like u got shares 😂
Tallywhacker-2410@reddit
Actually, the 9070XT is ahead on 4k according to gamers nexus benchmarks. It's behind on RT. Everything else it's directly comparable in real world terms to the 5070ti. Depends how you game. I'm happy to use 4k with downscaling OR ray tracing - if you want both your looking at a higher price tier anyway.
I could have bought a 5070ti budget model with poor components and cooling for an extra £60 but ultimately went for the 9070ti mercury OC at £760 which is the best 9070XR available. For decent 5070ti models of comparable quality to the XFX mercury OC would have cost between £900-1100.
The cooling is sick - 54C running temps reported under load. It has huge OC/UV capacity, quality components. I'll easily pull ahead of a budget 5070TI on anything other than RT. To get a 5070TIwith good OC/UV potential would have been an extra £150-200+-
The 9070XT genuinely made more sense than the 5070ti. I had the same last season too when I chose 7800XT.
Also, cards don't age like wine, lol. Devs get lazy, that includes over stating min specs when uncertainty is present. I've never had issues optimising either Nvidia or AMD cards in older games like you describe and I've been using both since around 1995 (and mach64 lol).
I get your enthusiasm, but you've drank brand cool aid.
NV is the best overall in terms of choices and maximum performance, not performance per £
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
Amd also went back on dropping support for 7000, 6000, and 5000 series. 5700xt did not age worse. Game devs just get system requirements wrong 9/10. Raytracing is bloat and looks the same on vs off. 9070xt has more undervolting headroom too btw.
Swegoteo@reddit
Rt looks the same on and off? Maybe time to change glasses?
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vertical_computer@reddit
They are close. 5070Ti is slightly faster.
However the 9070 XT is cheaper in most markets, which usually makes it the better value purchase.
What the 5070 Ti has (over the 9070 XT):
Whether that’s worth the $100-200 premium is up to you to decide. For most casual gamers, it’s probably not worth it.
TheGreatPiata@reddit
9070 XT was around $300 cheaper in my area so it was a no brainer. $100 difference I'd likely go with the 5070 Ti even though I don't trust that power connector.
Ch4rlie_G@reddit
So just watched a video last night, this guy found it was the corsair cables that were going bad. He tested a bunch of cables and only corsair's had issues.
https://youtu.be/lQ2FsIT61sQ
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Sakakaki@reddit
The 5070ti doesn't pull enough power for that to be a concern I thought.
KFC_Junior@reddit
I use a 400w bios on mine and im not concerned at all. Anything under 380w (5080 stock tdp) is more than fine tbh, the very few cases that TDP is on PSU side or the now notorious yellow tip MSI cable
vertical_computer@reddit
I’ve seen some isolated occurrences popping up on Reddit, although far fewer than 5080 and 5090.
But whilst you’re right in that it shouldn’t be as big of a concern, it’s still a very flawed design and for some people this won’t tick the peace of mind/“sleeping at night” box for them.
Personally I wanted to avoid the connector altogether, but I needed Nvidia due to CUDA, and an older/slower GPU wasn’t going to cut it, so I basically had to bite the bullet. So I 100% get where they’re coming from.
DeathSOA@reddit
Exactly.... I wanted to get a 5070ti but after taxes it's literally 300 more....
Definitely not worth it for me personally.
I also just game though.
Designer-Muffin-5653@reddit
Over its lifetime you probably save 100-200$ in energy cost, so it evens out in the end
DoubleRelationship85@reddit
Also worth mentioning that PT performance is massively better. I have tried out PT on the RX 9070 XT and it is significantly slower than my previous 4070 Super, for those that care about PT this may be a dealbreaker.
Framed-Photo@reddit
As a bit of a latency snob, reflex support might be the biggest factor lol. Anti lag 2 is good but it's in basically nothing. Luckily you can mod it in with optiscaler, but then you're needing to put that on every game you play and it's not always perfect.
Open_Map_2540@reddit
reflex and antilag aren't really that different apart from how many games they are in.
Reflex is shown to be a bit more consistent but overall the same.
Reflex 2 which adds frame warp looks interesting but it isn't even out yet and only planned for 2 games so far.
Framed-Photo@reddit
Oh I haven't felt a difference between them, but yeah the support level is the issue, as I was saying. Antilag 2 is unironically in ZERO of the games that I play, so when I had a 9070xt I would just have to force it with optiscaler.
Scouseulster@reddit
The 5070 is a better card, however, I was able to get. 9070xt OC for 495 in the UK, saving over 200 which made it worth it, especially when selling my old 3080, was a no brainer
DJ_The_Chilli_Chap@reddit
Where from please sir?
boz271@reddit
I don’t think it’s possible to get for £495 but if you go onto very you can get a 9070 xt for £655 current lowest then apply for very pay and after completing you get a 20% off code then the card is £524. I’ve not done this but seen someone say they did this.
Additional-Toe-6531@reddit
got mine off amazon £620 paid 580 after prime benefits , its possible in the UK for a good deal i have it
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
I don't think the 5070 ti is a better card, I got both of them and Sometimes the 9070XT is kicking some Nvidia ass. It all depends on how you set it up and what you are running.
LostTheElectrons@reddit
5070Ti is a bit better, but more expensive. Gaming performance is about the same, but the 5070Ti has some nice to have features like path tracing and general ease-of-use. I don't think you will be dissapointed with either.
Outrageous_Lie_6018@reddit
What is this ease of use you talk about?
LostTheElectrons@reddit
The main thing is how easy it is to use upscaling (currently). With AMD, FSR4 will work in games that support FSR3.1 but you have to use their software to override it and it's a little more cumbersome.
Outrageous_Lie_6018@reddit
Oh I upgraded from 3070 to 9070xt and haven't really needed to mess with any of that, I do think the AMD app is far superior than nvidia though
PePs004@reddit
I'm looking to do this exact upgrade. Anything major you noticed with it or difficulties you've encountered?
APartyForAnts@reddit
I did a 3080-9070xt upgrade recently and found no complaints. The noise suppression feature doesn't work for my mic, but friends haven't complained. The 9070xt is far faster in every game I've tried and the software is way better but there's a definite Nvidia focus in many game settings. Hasn't turned me off the choice at all though. I was happy to get a good GPU at a decent price and not support Nvidia.
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PePs004@reddit
Thank you. This is very good to hear. Wanting to upgrade for the extra VRAM as I have an ultra wide I really like but keep hearing bad things about the AMD drivers so a little worried still
turbotails23@reddit
On this note, AMD and Nvidia have swapped places. Nvidia is putting alot of effort into their pro drivers and ai, and its showing in their software. In the same time frame, AMD acknowledged they had driver issues and put alot of effort into them. At this point, AMD makes far superior gaming drivers vs Nvidia, who is mostly coasting by on dev knowledge imparted on dev teams back when Nvidia used to coach AAA developers.
The AMD bit about drivers has gone from truth to myth, and Nvidias drivers have gone from unshakable to mildly annoying.
Also, if you have any plans to go to linux, you should plan on AMD gpus. The driver situation is magnified 10x on linux for gaming, AMD is currently the gold standard and Nvidia is problematic at best. Some distros litterally have to boot different vs intel/AMD.
Artyom_84@reddit
Et les milliers de problèmes de Driver Time Out sur AMD, c'est un mythe aussi ? Please...
turbotails23@reddit
Lol, I never said they were perfect. Just that if we take the last 5 years of Nvidia drivers and the last 5 years of AMD drivers, AMD has done much better than Nvidia in the consumer space. Your totally right though, the driver timeout issues are unacceptable. It doesn't matter if its a windows only issue because AI is involved, or if its a AMD issue cause they failed to communicate boost clock expectations, or anything else, the issue is unacceptable.
On the same note though, Nvidia has had several more issues over the years that are just as severe if not more so, including drivers not managing the fan speed correctly so the card burns up.
Outrageous_Lie_6018@reddit
Nothing yet really. Its been pretty solid
asmallbowlofnoodles@reddit
What about games that support fsr2? Can you still override it?
LostTheElectrons@reddit
I don't think so, you just have to wait for the developer to Implement the newer version.
Sometimes you can use OptiScaler to convert DLSS into FSR4 and vice versa, but it's harder to use and may not work with games with anticheats and such.
asmallbowlofnoodles@reddit
Eh I dont use it but its fun to mess with, thanks for the quick reply tho <3
Tsiah16@reddit
Are there video cards that are difficult to use?
LostTheElectrons@reddit
More just things like enabling upscaling. It's certainly not hard on AMD, but I think I lot of people just don't bother to learn how. Much easier when it's just a game setting.
SnardVaark@reddit
5070Ti can use DLAA.
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
That is not a reason yo buy that card, ha ha
Ben_Nevi@reddit
9070 XT for value 5070 Ti for comfort
I chose comfort.
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
I went with 9070XT first comfort together with the 98003d, runs better than with the Nvidia. Maybe because of the same brand, same goes with 78003d version.
Biggeordiegeek@reddit
5070 Ti is marginally better, but does have some decent AI niceities
Was faced with the same choice, went 9070XT and don’t regret it
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
Me too, I got the 9070XT 300bucks cheaper. That is ridiculous to spend 300 bucks more for the 5070ti.
I bought the Acer Predator Bifrost 9070XT, really great card
Biggeordiegeek@reddit
Same car I have, it’s great, and the software whilst not as good as the EVGA one I have used for years, is pretty low on the resources
Automatic_Ad756@reddit
I'm too worried about the 600W connectors to buy the Nvidia's at the moment, and now I see the 9070XT also strating to use that connector. So for me personally, I'm waiting and sticking to my 7800xt for now.
Too reply to your question, the 5070ti is better but also way more expensive.
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
7800xt is also a great card, just like the 6800XT
kmkm2op@reddit
Only two 9070xt models use it which is the asrock taichi and sapphire nitro+ but because it makes the cabling look better lmao. Every other model will use either 2×8 pin or 3×8 pin connectors. The main thing is that the performance uplift from the 7800xt isn't there yet as it's still quite a powerful gpu.
Automatic_Ad756@reddit
Thank you, I'm happy to hear the 7800xt is still quite powerful, keeps me from doing an impulse buy 🤣
AdAdmirable8255@reddit
Just ordered a 9070 xt to replace my 7800 xt, mainly to give the 7800 xt to my son to replace his 580. Kind of a panic buy for RAM prices (so expect 9070 xt prices to tumble based on my luck).
Automatic_Ad756@reddit
I wonder how much better the 9070xt will be, I can still play everything I want on epic settings in a 4k resolution. I'm not seeing amazing fps but it's definitely playable.
AdAdmirable8255@reddit
It's pretty good, more of a jump than I was expecting actually. That said, if I wasn't wanting to upgrade my son's machine I wouldn't have bothered. The 7800 is so overkill, he needs a new monitor, 1080p 60hz is not enough!
Automatic_Ad756@reddit
Thanks for the feedback, happy the card is working out for you, maybe less happy it's gonna cost you more money because of the monitor for your son.
I just started with ARC raiders, and my GPU seems to handle it fine even on 4k resolution, so I don't need to invest in it yet.
Ill_Difference_4039@reddit
it's only 2 9070xt models that use it, what do you mean "starting to use" ? just don't buy one of the two, if you are looking for a high end model, the red devil and mercury don't use it and i would prefer them over the taichi/nitro+
Federal-Pear3498@reddit
You might want to switch to them AMD chip ngl, i did switch my 14700kf to a ryzen 7800 x3d and it's crazy good temp + power draw is like 1/2 or 1/3
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
Yes, that is true.
PrOntEZC@reddit
AMD is the clear choice for CPU you are correct on that. But GPUs are still NVidia territory. FSR is simply garbage compared to DLSS.
caffeine-182@reddit
FSR 4 competes with DLSS to the point to where I highly doubt anyone can actually tell the difference in real use.
PrOntEZC@reddit
yet the support for it is almost nowhere, not to mention DLSS is evolving as well. FSR 4 can rival the old CNN DLSS but Transformer model is still miles ahead. Xess from Intel is closer to DLSS than AMD FSR...
euraklap@reddit
Not true. FSR 4 competes with the transformer model. About the same quality. One is better here; the other is there. DLSS oversharpens the image. That's all. If you set RSI 2 to 50%, you won't notice the difference playing a game.
PrOntEZC@reddit
not true + today we got a new transformer model that fixes most issues and again is miles ahead of FSR 4...
euraklap@reddit
I have both cards, and I know what I am talking about, unlike you.
PrOntEZC@reddit
lol
Useful_Honeydew942@reddit
Its a bit worse, but calling it garbage is nonsense.
Federal-Pear3498@reddit
True, i had options to upgrade from my 3080 to 5070 gaming trio or a 9070xt, but i chose the 5070 because its silent with 200W and dlss is mile ahead + no AAA game
f1rstx@reddit
pretty pointless upgrade for minimal performance gains for huge amount of money
Federal-Pear3498@reddit
i mean it's on the side of what do you want, if you just fixated on the p/p then yeah, but for me i dont want a chip to drain 125\~253W, it's literally drain more power than a VGA while i play POE2, now my 7800 x3d eat 60-75W and has a stable 65-70C, that is enough for me
Chaoselement007@reddit
I’ve got a 14900k and temperatures are around 40-45° gaming. Thing runs cooler than a cucumber. You’re telling me the 7800x3d is more efficient? I have a 5800x and it is a greedy, hot beast
0nlythebest@reddit
You're the only man on the planet that actually believes a 14900k is more power efficient than a 5800x . Also I don't believe your 14900k runs that cold during gaming. What paste and cooler do you have ? What game
Chaoselement007@reddit
You were right to call me out…. Just ran some tests and I’m high 60s playing enshrouded. Don’t remember the paste, Mag Coreliquid C360 for the fans. Had dark rock pro 5 on the 5800x and it hits 90 and throttles. Airflow matters I guess… back to the drawing board, don’t mind me
PlzDntBanMeAgan@reddit
I also have a 14900k with a 360mm kraken aio and it's usually closer to 60c when gaming
Federal-Pear3498@reddit
Just check how many watt your cpu is eating when gaming and comeback here
YBTHEKING_BrianGreve@reddit
I have both, and they both ROCK, but I would go for the AMD if the price is 100bucks cheaper + The AMD can bet the 5070 ti is several things.
I bought the Acer Predator Bifrost 9070XT and that is a really fast card. But I only did it before I had never owned an Acer graphics card before, ha ha ha...And Bifrost Predator sounds too good 😅
Either card will pick ass, so go with the cheapest. Adrenalin drivers are excellent and you can easily adjust all the settings you need + you get a free easy to used 3D app Amuse, AI chat that will blow you away, once you get into it 😉
Master_protato@reddit
For the same price the 5070 Ti is better.
Where I live (Canada) For dollar-to-dollar performanc, RX 9070 XT is the winner no contest.
The RX 9070 XT cost on average 400$ less than the 5070 Ti.
Most benchmarks (different triple-A modern games) show that the 5070 Ti performs better than the Rx 9070 XT by 5% to 20%.
And other games show that the RX 9070 XT performs better than the 5070 Ti.
Here is one benchmark video to help you decide if the extra few hundred bucks might be worth it for you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1q3le7k/which_is_better_rtx_5070_ti_or_the_rx_9070xt/
Framed-Photo@reddit
Where in Canada is the 9070xt that much cheaper?
1089 is the MSRP of the 5070ti here, and it's gone lower a few times now (with the shitty gigabyte model hitting 979).
The lowest the 9070xt ever got was an in person one day deal for 699, or online for a couple days for 799. Around 899 is more or less where they are now.
Even at both cards lowest prices ever, after tax, the gap is still nowhere close to 400 lol. If you don't count that in person deal the gap is smaller again.
Wild-Outcome-644@reddit
Amazon has the lowest prices 5070 ti at around $1160 and the lowest priced 9070xt at around $920. If you're comparing top of the line models, its more like $1500 to $1100. But realistically, its a $250 - $300 difference.
Canada Computers is about the same as well. Shit sucks here. I wanted to get a 5070ti just for dlss4 since im moving to 4K in 2 months, and I currently have a 7900xt and just want that better upscaling. I could sell my card for about $900 and then either pay $100 for the 9070 xt and get fsr 4, or spend $400 and get the 5070ti which will probably have better future proofing. Not quite sure yet tbh.
PrOntEZC@reddit
5070Ti, you get DLSS. 9070XT is extremely behind in image quality and is a lot less efficient.
Wild-Outcome-644@reddit
Not quite true. FSR4 is pretty much equal to dlss4, and in some rare games, even better slightly.
KaOtIcGuy89@reddit
Gaming they are about the same. 9070xt has more raster but 5070ti is technically faster with all the Nvidia stuff.
Price though the 9070xt wins. For RT if you use it the 5070ti wins.
EchoOneFour@reddit
9070xt does not have more raster... I don't know how you came to that conclusion given the vast amount of information regarding the subject...
They are close in performance depending on the game and driver version... But overall Nvidia is also better in raster added on top of everything else..
The only redeeming quality of the 9070xt.. which is a damn big quality is the price...
classicjuice@reddit
There are literally multiple benchmarks done comparing those 2 cards - 9070xt is faster by around 3-5% than the 5070ti
EchoOneFour@reddit
Show me the multiple benchmarks
classicjuice@reddit
https://youtu.be/aWfMibZ8t00
EchoOneFour@reddit
Phahaha ofc that one wrong video that the guy above you laughed at as well :)))..
That was 6 months ago on a very small game average... Check all the other reviewers and not just hub that is a bit biased towards amd...
But the fact you picked that exact video speaks for itself... So i will follow your rules
https://youtu.be/emVYtz0-XhE https://youtu.be/ifX0Eb5GuYAp
When tested with a good number of games https://youtu.be/tHI2LyNX3ls
And real world usage and recent performance from hub themselves..
https://youtu.be/uDligqbbPGs
https://www.techspot.com/review/3048-nvidia-5070-ti-vs-amd-9070-xt-with-dlss-fsr/
Like so much data...
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
22 game average 9070xt loses by 2% even counting rt games. Same tdp, 100 dollars cheaper. Lower driver overhead. More undervolting headroom. Seems like amd is the clear winner here especially in raster. "Average focused mostly on rasterized titles, the 9070 XT was about 3% ahead of the 5070 Ti. Today's test sample combines both rasterized and ray-traced games."
EchoOneFour@reddit
You are delusional :))).
Even with multiple video evidence presented you still talk out of you ass :))).
Same tdp? Are you crazy hahaha, better drivers? :))))
More undervolting headroom? :)))) I mean yeah maybe... Considering the 9070xt eats even 100W more than a base 5070ti...
Not even gonna bother with you further... You have like 5 different sources showing 5070ti is better in raw performance... You can cope all you want :))
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
I literally quoted from the bottom link. Wake up man I'm trying to help you.
EchoOneFour@reddit
You quoted literally the video that shows better performance in real world usage and try to spin somehow in a win for the 9070xt :))).
When they video literally shows better performance from the 5070 ti even in titles that don't include raytracing...
Not to mention all the other sources i shared.
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
My quote wasn't from a video it was from the webpage
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
In all the videos 9070xt ties or wins with rt off. A few outliers skew the results to make the 5070ti 5% better in raster while being 25% more expensive. That's a giga bad deal lol.
EchoOneFour@reddit
My god you are full on coping... Like i said done with you.
You have 5 sources proving you wrong
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
I got all of the info for my arguments from your sources directly. I love hwub I've done heavy research pre purchase but for the sake of fairness I've used only your sources for this argument
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
9070xt tdp = 304 5070ti tdp = 300 Please try Google and also please look at the "5 different sources"
EchoOneFour@reddit
Mate real world tdp is not the same as the on paper one. In reality the 5070ti rarely reaches the 300 tdp while the 9070xt goes over 304 constantly
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
From a quick Google search an untuned 9070xt uses at most 40 more watts during heavy load. We are talking 304w vs 264w while 9070xt is way more efficient at idle. Of course real world consumption is different than tdp but the cards need to be close or the spec wouldn't exist
Naive-Strawberry-516@reddit
Never had mine pass that according to steam overlay or mangohud
GARGEAN@reddit
>9070xt does not have more raster... I don't know how you came to that conclusion given the vast amount of information regarding the subject...
Literally a single HUB video with 16 games benchmark made whole subreddits repeat ad nauseum that 9070XT is faster, despite every single wide scale benchmark from every single reputable source showing otherwise.
People REALLY are grabbing for straws to match their beliefs.
KaOtIcGuy89@reddit
I'm assuming you bought a 5070ti and found out that a card $250+ cheaper is better? 🤣🤣🤣
GARGEAN@reddit
Nah. I've bought 5070Ti and played trough Indiana Jones, Doom TDA, Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk PL with Path Tracing. Soon will do the same with Resident Evil 9. In the meantime I am replaying GTA4 with Remix.
So I doubt 9070XT, which was not found more than 100$ cheaper than 5070Ti when I've got mine, can be somehow "cheaper" for my use. But you can project further.
merdafit@reddit
It's so dumb. The 9070xt is a great buy for $250 less than the 5070ti, you don't need to also convince yourself that it is in fact better in every way. You already got a great deal on a comparable product.
merdafit@reddit
Hey now, linux performance is another redeeming quality for some people, not just the price. Especially since I have no hope of nvidia ever putting resources into closing that gap.
f1rstx@reddit
how long redditors will repeat "9070 has more raster" lie here?
LacerationCe@reddit
Wtf are you talking about, it's been proven by every single benchmark channel that the 5070 ti is faster in Raster and way faster in RT, stop spreading misinformation and confusing performance per dollar with actual raw performance, the 9070xt has better raster performance PER DOLLAR, CUZ IT'S CHEAPER, but the 5070Ti always has better Raster performance
Gaviznotcool268@reddit
As someone with a 9060 xt, the driver situation has been absolutely horrendous since I got it. Every driver version since 25.9 has had some form of crashing between a few different games. And other weird anomalies.
Artyom_84@reddit
J'ai tenté l'aventure AMD avec une 7900GRE, plus jamais !
Nahmsayin1@reddit
Imo, the games that you play should be a factor in your decision. If you only play competitive titles, the 9070xt will be the better value/purchase. If you play triple a titles or are planning to, the 5070 ti would make more sense as those games are more demanding and the card has better RT performance
Square-Illustrator10@reddit
Not a good time right now because of the market but if it gets better anytime soon you should also look into getting 2×32gb ram sticks instead of filling all 4 ram slots, it usually increases performance by a margin
LawfuI@reddit
Neither, get whichever you like. The internet is littered with this question
nereves666@reddit
9070, but I am biased. Nvidia is a scummy company.
nona01@reddit
64gigs of ddr5 in this economy is wild. If it was me I would sell 32gb of it just for the money since the extra isn't too important if you're just gaming. Buy it back once pricing is more stable.
AlextheGoose@reddit
Most 64gb kits are 2x32gb sticks, so you would be forced to run in single channel mode
nona01@reddit
Is what OP said \^\^
blankhandle_@reddit
5070 ofc
Tsiah16@reddit
I have the RX 6800-XT I play plenty of games at 60FPS 4k or 120FPS 2k (depending on what I'm connected to) I can't see any reason for nor justify the price of the Nvidia cards.
Vegetable-Squirrel98@reddit
Depends if you play games with ray tracing or care for using ray tracing
GalliumEnergy@reddit
For the price, 9070 XT by a longshot
This_isR2Me@reddit
Price, 2x8, great performance (compared to 2070s) led me to get the 9070xt a few weeks ago.
Objective-Win@reddit
I ordered a 5070TI from Micro Center. Went to pick it up, chatted with an associate, and walked out with a 9070XT. Zero regrets so far.
Brilliant-Ice-4575@reddit
at equal pricing 5070ti is better. at these prices 9070xt is better...
ecktt@reddit
5070Ti in all performance metrics.
CandidGuidance@reddit
9070 XT for gaming. It’s way cheaper and an absolute powerhouse for the money.
Workloads / professional tool suites - 5070Ti and I would err on the side of upgrading even further if it’s a money maker.
I’d go buy today if I were you , PC parts pricing is going insane and won’t get better in the short to medium term , especially if China invades Taiwan.
Patient-Yogurt7111@reddit
Brother u really don't need a 50 series. If u have a 4060 it's good enough weight fir the 60 series and this is mu opinion coz 4060 is just approx 3 years old or ig less so no need to buy a 50 series. Waiting for 60 series would be better and u might get a better performance for lower price though. But if u are rich af then u should go with Rtx 5070ti coz it has more perks but u also should consider that your monitor supports Nvidia or AMD coz then u can unleash it's True pover with the monitor too.
Apple_phobia@reddit
The 5070Ti but only if the price gap is less than 100
masamune255@reddit
Rx 9070xt is better for linux.
Youcan12@reddit
I went with the 5070 Ti. I got it under MSRP too.
Wilbis@reddit
9070xt is slightly faster on pure rasterization performance (like 5% max) but if you enable raytracing, 5070ti takes the win by 10-20% depending on a game.
Since most new games use raytracing, and with some you can't even disable it completely, I would pick the 5070ti.
GARGEAN@reddit
>9070xt is slightly faster on pure rasterization performance
No it's not. Unless you can provide an actual source for that except that single HUB video or article rechewing that single video.
Wilbis@reddit
A Finnish independent hardware site has tested both cards https://www.io-tech.fi/artikkelit/testissa-amd-radeon-rx-9070-9070-xt-rdna-4/
On Cyberpunk 9070xt was 13% faster than a 5070ti @ 1440P with raytracing off: https://www.io-tech.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/9070xt-bench-cp2077.png
On Alan Wake 2 9070xt was 14% faster than 5070ti with same settings. https://www.io-tech.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/9070xt-bench-aw2-1440p.png
On Black Myth: Wukong 9070xt was 5% faster: https://www.io-tech.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/9070xt-bench-wukong-1440p.png
On 4K, the tests were very similar to 1440p.
With raytracing on, in all tested games 5070ti was 5-22% faster than 9070xt.
caffeine-182@reddit
Not sure about the other 2 games but Cyberpunk is known to be heavily NVIDIA-biased.
GARGEAN@reddit
It's not in fact. It runs comparably on both vendors, even has slight AMD bias in raster. It running much faster on Nvidia with RT is not NVidia bias - AMD is just slower with that workload.
GARGEAN@reddit
So... 3 games. And without mentioning ones where 5070Ti was faster.
Stellar argument. Insane adherence to factual accuracy. My deepest respects.
Wilbis@reddit
Look buddy. I'm not gonna rewrite and translate the entire article for you. The trend is very clear though, there are other benchmarks showing the same. 5070ti is generally faster only on raytraced games.
But a lot of new games are starting to force raytracing, especially UE5 games. For that reason I would recommend getting the 5070ti out of these GPUs, even when it's a little bit slower on pure rasterization, and it's more expensive.
GARGEAN@reddit
You literally picked and chose what to believe. This article tests like 5 games and gets results that contradict all reputable and repeatable tests. All respectable wide scale benchmarks show 5070Ti as faster in both raster and RT. None show something even remotely close to 15% faster results in Cyberpunk, and some other results are literally flipped.
You just want to believe, no matter the facts. Competely useless. Have a nice day.
Wilbis@reddit
You still haved linked to any articles/benchmarks that show 5070ti being faster on rasterization.
On Gamers Nexus benchmarks it was more or less a tie, but 5070ti winning on RT https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-gpu-review-benchmarks-vs-5070-ti-5070-7900-xt-sapphire-pulse
Here's another one from Techspot with more games that shows the 9070xt being overall faster than the 5070ti on more recent drivers https://www.techspot.com/review/3008-radeon-9070-xt-amd-finewine/
I don't think i need to repeat myself. There's a clear trend here, especially with the more recent drivers.
GARGEAN@reddit
Cool, you brought GN, where 5070Ti is faster in 5 out of 7 games, sometimes noticeably so, including direct contradiction with your first article in numbers (you won't adress that, I bet), and in 2 games 9070XT is faster, it is faster by... 1.3% and 4% respectively. Which, considering that 5070Ti is faster up to 34% in other 5 games, makes 5070Ti flat out faster card. Not "more or less a tie".
Congratulations, your first "proof" contradicts your point directly. Also bad proof in general due to having 7 games sample size - that's not a proper average.
And your second proof is LITERALLY, I SHIT YOU NOT, AN ARTICLE MADE BY HARDWARE UNBOXED TIED TO THE HARDWARE UNBOXED VIDEO that I mentioned in the first comment.
Congratulations, you truly failed to not bring that HUB video up, even if you tried.
But you are right, there is a clear trend here. Trend being you basing your judgement strickly on your beliefs, in complete disregard of actual facts.
lleyton05@reddit
Use the search, it’s like the most asked question on this sub
Terakahn@reddit
I'm surprised it's never 5070 vs 9070 xt. They're actually the same price at least.
Jbarney3699@reddit
5070ti is better but more expensive. I would personally buy a 5070ti if it’s only $50-$90 more expensive than the 9070XT.
In terms of software, AMD is better. In terms of features, DLSS is a little bit better than FSR still. Downside to AMD is corrupted drivers may occur since windows still hasn’t fixed issues with overwriting AMD Display drivers, so DDU and reinstall of drivers happens maybe once a year.
Dangerous-Mud6131@reddit
If you hvce money, 5070Ti
Open_Map_2540@reddit
5070 ti if you don't care about price
BoughtSquash665@reddit
yep, sums it up. it’s got better RT and upscaling. DLSS 4 has more support in games as well
Ni_Ke98@reddit
I went with rtx 5070 ti because i hope the features like dlss and mfg are more developed, more widespread and more easy to use than amd In terms of money the 5070ti was around 100€ more expensive than the rx9070xt designs i had an eye on
clouds1337@reddit
In a vacuum the 5070ti is an ok card. But personally I really dislike it because it's just a stupid refresh of a 4080. Same performance, same ram, pretty much the same price (at least at the end of 40s series before 50 series launched). We didn't need a 5070ti, they should have just kept selling 4080s and made it a bit cheaper (same with 5080, another useless card compare to 4090 and 80). I hate moves like that where they give a full new generational name to the same thing. The whole 50 series is basically like that.
That's why I would always choose 9070xt because that card at least moved the goal post and made that level of performance considerably cheaper.
Zestyclose_Paint3922@reddit
From price performance perspectiva 9070xt. 5070ti id slightly better if you don’t care about price.
PhOeNiX071993@reddit
5070ti better drivers. A lot UV + OC potential. Better game implementation of NVIDIA reflex. DLLS is better than FSR. But a 9070XT also good.
prank_mark@reddit
Nvidia does not have better drivers. They don't even have Linux drivers.
merdafit@reddit
What distro were you using? Almost any distro a normal person would use has nvidia drivers on linux, especially a gaming focused one, of which there are numerous options.
Now, it is true nvidia doesn't give a shit about linux, or release game ready fixes and stuff like that. The worst issue being nvidia loses 10%-20% on DX12 games in linux, but it generally works fine these days.
With the steam deck and a bunch of handhelds, AMD actually works on their linux drivers and gets contributions from Steam, so performance is great, often beating Windows.
PhOeNiX071993@reddit
They have…! (And I’m not a NVIDIA fanboy) With Linux you’re right.
prank_mark@reddit
When I ran Nvidia I would get endless popups telling me to update my drivers. Haven't gotten any on AMD after using it for half a year.
PhOeNiX071993@reddit
That will be an isolated case for you.
Big__Disc__Energy__@reddit
5070 if you like your PC more than your money. 9070 if the opposite.
s4muz@reddit
I would highly recommend checking out this video of Hardware Unboxed. They did a 55 games benchmark between those cards, and it covers pricing and more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHI2LyNX3ls
Away-Cardiologist-67@reddit
I chose the 5070 ti and it pushes, beautiful and without any problems.
King031@reddit
Sell 32gb of ram from your system and buy a rtx 5090 lol
raydialseeker@reddit
$600 9070xt or $750 5070ti
Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
Their Native performance is the same. If u think paying a little more for the Nvidia features is worth it, go for it
TommiacTheSecond@reddit
5070Ti is the better card if you do not card about the ~$150 price increase.
xxBrun0xx@reddit
I recently went with 9070xt over 5070ti. The preference is pretty similar and the AMD card was $200 cheaper. I've always been on team been but have been pleasantly surprised by team red and how good their software is.
Paco7575@reddit
As many people have said, the RTX 5070 Ti is slightly better, but also more expensive. However, NVIDIA GPUs tend to hold their value better over time, making them more price-stable in the long run.
NVIDIA also usually brings new features to older generations, for example DLSS updates. AMD, on the other hand, is more limited in this regard. For instance, the RX 7000 series does not support some of AMD’s newer features such as FSR 4 or Redstone.
inverseinternet@reddit
9070xt outperforms 6070ti in raterisation according to experts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDligqbbPGs
Paco7575@reddit
As everyone said 5070ti is a bit better but more expensive. BUT Nvidia gpus are more price stable, so they age much better in terms of value. And Nvidia usually enables new futures for older cards, e.g dlss. Amd on the other hand usually doesnt, so for example the last amd gpus 7000 series are not able to use the new fsr or redstone.
ash_ninetyone@reddit
Went through the same questions
Honestly depends what you want
Raw rasterised gaming performance? They both are neck and neck. One better in some games, the other better in some games. Go for the cheapest, which is the 9070XT. You'll save around $/£/€200 you can use elsewhere
Pathtracing? Go for the 5070 Ti. AMD has made improvements here but is still outperformed by Nvidia on this rn.
Video rendering? Go for the 5070 Ti. AMD has improved here, but nvenc encoders still remain the best performing
FSR 4 is comparable to DLSS, though not every game supports it. You can apply it to 3.1-supported games through AMD's control panel.
Just be aware with memory pricing the way it is rn, there's speculation and likelihood that GPU prices will rise again, so you will want a decision sooner on this
JenzibleTTV@reddit
It’s the 9070XT that outperforms the 5070ti in rast performance btw, idk what theese guys are on. Extending the power limit of the 9070XT will put it next to the 5080 in some scenarios, not the 5070Ti.
If you care about ray tracing, heavy upscaling or AI frames then the 5080 would be better.
But out of the 9070XT and 5070Ti the AMD counterpart has better raster performance, easily.
GARGEAN@reddit
>Extending the power limit of the 9070XT will put it next to the 5080
And in some situations it will be behind base 5070. That's why we measure averages, eh?
>idk what theese guys are on
Those guys are talking about every single reputable benchmark marking 5070Ti as faster in both raster and RT. You are basing your beliefs on a single 16 games test video.
EchoOneFour@reddit
You are delusional man :)))
JenzibleTTV@reddit
Based on your other comments, you woulnd’t know a fact if it was standing right in front of you with a big ass sign in it’s hands saying "IM A FACT".
EchoOneFour@reddit
My guy send me a source where the 9070xt is shown as the better raster card overall.. sure they trade blows depending on the game and driver update.. but overall all relevant sources show the 5070ti as better overall.. while also consuming significantly less power besides all the other advantages in software...
9070xt has only one advantage and that is it's cheaper...
JenzibleTTV@reddit
Yeah yeah yeah👍
Open_Map_2540@reddit
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229
reality is often disappointing
prank_mark@reddit
If you're only going to game, I'd grab the RX 9070 XT since its $100 to $200 cheaper than the RTX 5070 Ti and you'll get the exact same performance.
darkwai@reddit
I personally like Nvidia's dlss better, but you can't beat the 9070XT price to performance.
Outrageous_Lie_6018@reddit
Not a good comparison as the 5070 is closer to the 9070xt in price
YD099@reddit
Depends on budget and how tech savvy you are.
5070Ti costs more, but you can essentially plug it in and enjoy 100% of it's power without and fiddling.
9070XT requires some knowledge and tweaking to extract the most out of it, either in terms of power consumption, overall graphics quality, or just raw power
JonathanRace@reddit
Had the same choice recently upgrading from a 7700xt. Value wise I’d say the 9070xt wins but I went for the 5070ti as it’s ahead a bit performance wise plus I wanted the better ray tracing and whatnot. Went with ASUS prime OC when it was on sale for £700.
EchoOneFour@reddit
If you don't have a budget 5070ti is objectively better all around..
If you have a budget that doesn't really allow a 5070ti then 9070xt is good enough
coolboy856@reddit
Depends on prices but the 5070 Ti is better
AlexNae@reddit
5070ti is better of course in performance
xXxKatletkaxXx@reddit
Make up your mind ASAP that what i would suggest you. With prices going up for GPUs you might pay as twice as much if you will think for too long
scottiedagolfmachine@reddit
5070ti
f1rstx@reddit
5070ti is noticeably better, more expensive though
Furyo98@reddit
They both are around same performance, nvidia has better support in games in general because of their dlss being the main go to for devs. Nvidia has some other features that could be good. I’m always using their broadcast app.
It’s up to you which one to go for. Is ease of use worth the extra dollars that’s only you can answer. Unless 9070 xt is higher than 5070 ti in your location then nivida would be better.