I understand it's New Years, but are the police really allowed to just let people set fireworks off in the middle of a residental road? (Loud video)

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TheTritagonistTurian@reddit

Call me an old grump but I’ll never waver from the opinion that domestic fireworks should be banned.

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Sleep_Deprived88@reddit

It’s only one or two nights a year mate, who goes to bed before 2 or 3 on new years anyway

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Mobile_Actuator_4692@reddit

I’d say they have a time limit. With new years being the exception

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Th3_S3rv3@reddit

Agreed. They should be banned. No good for wild life or pets either.

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It might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think you're wrong. I feel the same way. Someone near us has been letting off exactly 1 firework every night at exactly 1am since Bonfire night. It's starting to wear us all down. Someone posted in the legal advice subreddit after police arrested a man who helped him after some kids aimed a firework at him and set his coat on fire (apparently the man threw something at the kids to stop them firing a second one). A few people in our neighbourhood have lost fences and sheds to firework-initiated fires. People are losing pets to heart attacks and the like, vulnerable adults or veterans with PTSD are badly affected by the randomness of people just casually letting off explosives in their back gardens.

Fireworks should be limited to organised displays with proper safety precautions. If fireworks were limited to organised displays, people could plan for them - give themselves or pets medications, wear ear defenders or noise cancelling headphones or whatever works for them. As it stands, random explosions just go off pretty much any time between bonfire night and Chinese new year.

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Undefined92@reddit

Setting off fireworks between 11PM and 7AM is already illegal (with exception to special occasions). Have you reported it to the police or made a noise complaint to the council?

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Vequihellin@reddit

Police say to contact Council. We have reported it to the council, but we have no idea which house is doing it and without an address, they can't do anything unless their direct neighbours also report it. It's literally 1 single firework at 1am every night. So after it's done, there are a bunch of woken up people but nothing continuing so we can identify who set it off. It was typically a rocket of some sort too, so it's not even like we can prove which house it's coming from.

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Old_Opportunity9494@reddit

banning fireworks from general sale wont solve that ) the person may well still be able to purchase them same as most drug users purchase illegal drugs .what needs to be done is the pice doing thier job and stopping illegal use

as for pets and fences if things are that bad then id suggest contacting your MP , in 60 years ive never heard or seen that kind of thing happening either hear or abroad where mascalettas are preformed in residentional streets

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Vequihellin@reddit

as for pets and fences if things are that bad then id suggest contacting your MP , in 60 years ive never heard or seen that kind of thing happening either hear or abroad where mascalettas are preformed in residentional streets

Bold of you to assume the fences and sheds weren't their own fault. I didn't apportion blame, I just observed that in our neighbourhood we've seen several firework-related fires. I'm sure some of them were down to people not handling them properly. Which only enforces my point that it would be safer for everyone if fireworks were restricted to organised displays.

Someone's bitter ex set fire to their patio furniture with a firework last year. The whole neighbourhood woke up at stupid-o-clock in the morning to explosions, breaking glass (the table had a glass top on it and he lit a bunch underneath it) and the blue flashing lights of several fire engines (clearly a slow night).

We've seen local kids parks set on fire with the remains of roman candle type fireworks littering the ground, rockets aimed at windows, a local nature reserve got set on fire a couple of months back. Lucky you if you have the privilege to live in an area where none of this happens. Except it probably does, you just prefer to ignore information that doesn't fit your narrative.

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mrafinch@reddit

> Banning fireworks from general sale wont solve that ) the person may well still be able to purchase them same as most drug users purchase illegal drugs

Let's legalise murder, making it illegal didn't solve the problem.

> As for pets and fences if things are that bad then id suggest contacting your MP , in 60 years **ive never heard or seen that kind of thing happening**

Do you **really** need someone to record their pet dying for you to accept that fireworks are killing them via stress?

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Winston_Carbuncle@reddit

The demand for illegal fireworks will be nothing like the demand for illegal drugs.

And if police actually enforce any new ban, fireworks are not exactly discreet so that will further influence demand due to risk of being prosecuted.

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bookworm10122@reddit

Ba hum bug

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Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit

So your fun is so much more important than other people’s comfort and health?

Quite selfish imo…

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Acrobatic_Lobster838@reddit

Society is designed around that concept, yes.

Kinda sucks to say, but it really is.

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hashbrowneggyolk0520@reddit

And just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.

As much as there's nothing stopping people setting off fireworks daily it doesn't mean they have to. I can't think of a single good reason why it's necessary.

You'd hope that people had the decency to realise they're fun is having a negative impact on others but people are selfish. The kind of people setting them off on random days also don't strike me as the type to care about the safety of those and people around them either.

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Acrobatic_Lobster838@reddit

You'd hope that people had the decency to realise they're fun is having a negative impact on others but people are selfish.

I guarantee you have at least one thing that sparks you joy that is bad when the externalities are considered.

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Steppy20@reddit

In America, maybe.

The UK's society has not been that way for a very long time. That's why we have the regulations we do.

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Acrobatic_Lobster838@reddit

Lol

Most of us eat meat which is directly harmful to everyone around us.

Many of us drive. Or fly. Or consume in ways that hurt everyone.

Thoughtlessly pursuing your own joy at the expense of others is a huge part of our society. We accept it.

But sometimes we go "maybe this one thing we shouldn't do"

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GodOfBoy2018@reddit

I really really hate this argument. Just say you want them banned and leave it at that. Because the things you're protecting cause harm too, so get rid of them. I'd wager more people are killed by dogs than fireworks in a year

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RolfSonOfAShepard420@reddit

Conversely...

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LabelMeAs@reddit

You sir, are a 🔔🔚

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HereticLaserHaggis@reddit

It's probably one of the most popular opinions in this sub.

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Veracitist@reddit

What a surprise…

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tgerz@reddit

I’m from a place where they are banned and kind of thought it would be fun when I moved to London. I strongly desire for them to be regulated here. My dog also hates them and it takes multiple days for her to feel safe to go outside so I feel extra about it.

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Pocket_Aces1@reddit

Nah it's absolutely insane for 3 months of a year, every major supermarket sells explosives to anyone over 18.

I wouldn't mind the silent fireworks being more popular for domestic use. You get the nice pretty colours, while minimising noise. Of course, you'll still get the ones that do stupid shit with them like rocketing them at windows and the like.

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TheGamblingAddict@reddit

I perdonally can fully see fireworks being phased out in the coming years, and replaced fully with drone shows instead.

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Beginning-Bird9591@reddit

oh fuck off

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geeered@reddit

Drones shows are incredibly expensive for the moment.

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TheGamblingAddict@reddit

Wait till you find out how much fireworks cost. Round my end we have a saying, watching your money blow up in the air in regards to fireworks.

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geeered@reddit

Drone shows are likely to be around £200 a drone. You probably want 50 drones at a very minimum, but it's going to look very basic - 500 drones for something that starts to look more impressive.

Watching your money blow up in the sky is probably still the cheaper option.

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Jamericho@reddit

So there are two petitions that have recently hit parliamentary debate. One is to limit sale to council events which is essentially a ban. The government response has flat out rejected a ban and stated that they have run a widespread awareness campaign about fireworks but did state it would “continue to work with businesses, consumer groups and charities to gather evidence on the issues with and impacts of fireworks”.

The second is regarding banning fireworks over a certain noise level. This one was more specific and has the most likely chance of being enacted. The government response states that “Noise is one of the key issues we are seeking views on.”

Both petitions are due to be debated on 19th January so will likely be a debate entirely about this issue. For the foreseeable, I don’t anticipate a ban at all. I can however see limiting the sale of a plausible avenue.

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Shmikken@reddit

Petitions have never changed anything, probably never will. Bribery, sorry I mean "lobbying" however, has caused a change, many times. Funny that.

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Jamericho@reddit

Since 2011;

Increased Sentences for Dangerous Driving

Finns Law started as a petition which eventually became Animal Welfare (Service Animals) Act 2019, which makes it an offense to harm or injure a service animal.

The upskirting law only happened due to a petition.

Pet Abduction Act 2024

Free prescriptions for over-60s

They don’t directly affect policy but they can often start the debate.

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warlord2000ad@reddit

Didn't the upskirting law nearly pass without proper debate, I'm sure that's the one where an MP objected to it because of the lack of time it was debated..

But then the zombie knife legislation was poorly written and affected some legitimate knifes, whilst slightly older laws banned the import and sale of mass produced swords, unless handcrafted, so they just hit the mass produced swords with a hammer a few times in China, and the law is dodged...

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Jamericho@reddit

Not really sure what any of that has to do with my comment? The other person said “petitions never changed anything” so I pointed out numerous laws passed following a petition since 2011.

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warlord2000ad@reddit

upskirting law only happened due to a petition

I was mostly just replying back to this. It was this one that an MP, Sir Christopher Chope, objected to.

I do support the website for petitions.

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Jamericho@reddit

I’m aware it almost passed without debate but that doesn’t change the fact it only ever got to the legislation stage in the first place because someone started a petition to criminalise it. That was my point.

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warlord2000ad@reddit

I understand that, I was just posting about the fact it nearly passed without a debate.

Again, I'm in full support of the online petitions. I know a lot get dismissed even if they reach the threshold. But it's still worth having it and these are some of the successes.

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Jamericho@reddit

Okay, It’s a great fact but was kind of out the blue in regard to the discussion that’s all. To carry on that topic though, he got absolutely rinsed and labelled a “upskirt” defender for it when he actually supported the bill, he just disagreed with the bill not being debated. Even his own PM and party originally criticised him for it.

I honestly think those who say “petitions are pointless” just have no idea what a petitions purpose is.

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warlord2000ad@reddit

Well the discussion started with police ignoring fireworks been launched in the street, but here we are, this is the internet 😂

I do recall all the criticism, even I wasn't happy, but once it was made clear why he objected, I understood and supported his objection, to ensure it is discussed not just made into law. I'm not sure if it was the way the media portrayed it, or if it was just he objected and said nothing else. Looking into it again tonight, he has a long history of objecting for exactly this reason.

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Thestickleman@reddit

The petitions that go to parliament mean absolutely nothing and completely pointless as they don't care about them so nothing ever happens

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Jamericho@reddit

A petition itself has rarely influenced change. The petition is just a way for a campaign or lobby to gauge support before enacting larger campaigns. It’s a way of putting pressure on ministers. It’s not a direct way of affecting public policy, it’s a way of putting public support behind a particular issue.

nothing ever happens

Since 2011;

Increased Sentences for Dangerous Driving

Finns Law started as a petition which eventually became Animal Welfare (Service Animals) Act 2019, which makes it an offense to harm or injure a service animal.

The upskirting law only happened due to a petition.

Pet Abduction Act 2024

Free prescriptions for over-60s

They don’t directly affect policy but they can often start the debate.

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TheSmallestPlap@reddit

An awareness campaign will do SFA. We've all done DARE at school and the streets are still littered with spice addicts. Every other motorway gantry tells you to move over unless overtaking, we still have middle lane hoggers. An awareness campaign in any format does not work when it doesn't occur to the individual that they're doing anything wrong.

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Jamericho@reddit

Just to highlight, the awareness campaign isn’t their final response. They do awareness campaigns every single bonfire night anyway. Their response was basically a longwinded way of saying “it’s too late to do anything this ‘firework season’ but we have already done this”. The actual response will come following parliamentary debate this month.

I think the ban on fireworks above 90 decibels has the best chance of being passed purely because of the backing it has. It was started by Redwings Horse Sanctuary and limiting noise has the backing of the RSPCA.

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Magic_mousie@reddit

I've actually seen fewer campaigns than I used to. I remember as a kid seeing the TV ads about the dangers and putting sparklers in water (no, not the child!).

Need to run them like cigarette packets. This is a picture of Bob's hand after he thought holding a rocket was a good idea.

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F1nut92@reddit

The noise is by far the worst aspect of them, I appreciate part of the appeal of fireworks is to see and hear a bang, however do they really need to be so loud that they set house and car alarms off? This was my experience last night, from about 11:30-01:30, regularly the case from mid October to mid November as well. The visual side of them is nice, not sure if its because I'm getting older, but they seem to be getting louder and louder as well.

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warlord2000ad@reddit

The drones can be really good, but I still prefer the fireworks most of the time. I do however sign all the petitions to ban the sale of fireworks to anyone over the counter.

I would be happy with professional displays only, but as a middle ground, I would be happy that if you want fireworks you apply to the council for a permit. And you are granted to launch them on a set date/time. This way, everyone knows when the fireworks are going and the council can limit it to 2-3 days not a full week around fireworks night.

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adymann@reddit

Im surprised milliband hasn't subjected them to some carbon tax scheme.

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SelfSufficientHub@reddit

Doubt that. You aren’t going to be going into Asda and buying a drone show for Janice who you are trying to impress since Dave left her because she decided she didn’t want to stay on universal credits any more and mess up the benefits even though the only job she could find was a zero hours contract at the local Morrisons on the fish counter covering holidays and sickness.

So I think the demand will still be there

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clucks86@reddit

Janice didn't deserve your fireworks. 2026 will be your year.

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Pocket_Aces1@reddit

r/oddlyspecific

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NaturalEight2000@reddit

Fireworks are much less of a nuisance than drones, and drones are restricted in vast swathes of the country because of air traffic control laws

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delicatedead@reddit

Our house backs onto a park and it's just constant between October and January. Also there's a weird correlation between people who set off domestic fireworks at random times and days and people who ride dirt bikes on footpaths with no helmet

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Gingerishidiot@reddit

Actually most Supermarkets don't sell fireworks anymore.

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LemmysCodPiece@reddit

They were selling them in Asda 3 days ago, they were in Morrisons last week. The Range has had a full display of them since the end of September. So yeah they do.

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Gingerishidiot@reddit

Sorry, my bad. It is only Sainsbury's, Co-op, Waitrose, and M&S, that don't sell them

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Magic_mousie@reddit

Agreed generally. I did get a bit grumpy when I tried to buy sparklers in Waitrose and they wouldn't let me buy them until I was leaving the store. I couldn't put them in the trolley and do the rest of the shop. Because clearly I can do more damage with sparklers than with whatever fire I'd brought with me to light them? So dumb.

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Miasmata@reddit

Many people like them for the noises, I personally do

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Lord_Radford@reddit

Why jump directly to ban? I love fireworks and every year I put a lot of effort into making an awesome display. I enjoy it and I ensure it's done safely. I would fully support some sort of registration system and even a safety test to be put in place for purchase of consumer fireworks. The majority of people do use them safely and considerately, no need to penalise the masses. We don't ban cars when people are killed by drivers, we don't ban alcohol when drunk people attack others, we don't ban knives when people get stabbed.

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indigomm@reddit

Almost half of all Germans want a ban on private fireworks and I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling is pretty strong here. They limit their sale to just three days before New Year's, although I'm not sure how they stop people just driving to the next country to get some.

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minadequate@reddit

In Europe fireworks are way worse than the uk… I live in a small rural town in Denmark and 2 or 3 groups were letting off fireworks like this on my small road last night, one group had an overflowing wheelbarrow full. The fireworks started a couple of days ago and go of intermittently day and night. At midnight I could see 30 different sets from 1 window. They were constant for over an hour and still going off fairly regularly at 3:30am.

Half of Dane’s buy fireworks for NYE.

Germany is no different.

I live in a town with lots of refugees who have experienced real life bombs… I honestly don’t know how they manage as it sounds like a war zone for several hours on my residential road.

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Sufficient-Pie-5799@reddit

Here in Germany it's usually the refugees who act like total imbeciles with fireworks and causing trouble.

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minadequate@reddit

Do you know for certain… or are you just basing it on what they look like?

Because I doubt the Ukrainian children I know living here who grew up sleeping in the cellar of their house in the Donbas while actual bombs fell, slept so well last night when the bangs went on till 3:30am.

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Sufficient-Pie-5799@reddit

I do know that for certain. It's not the Ukrainians, but the Syrians and Afghans who are causing the trouble.

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No-Implement9331@reddit

Same in Sweden they were not the only group or the largest but did participate in the fireworks.

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RugbyEdd@reddit

I remember new years in Austria when I was little. People where throwing fire crackers under cars as they drove past and firing those roman candle things across the road at people. I thought it was great as a kid. Looking back, probably not the best ideas.

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minadequate@reddit

I went to NYE in Amsterdam at about 20… it reminded me of a film… smoke everywhere, people stumbling around like drunken zombies and fireworks flying horizontally at head height out of the smoke. All across the city.

Here we have a good view of the chaos but we stay inside from 12-1 (at which point any guests decide it might be safe to walk the 3 streets home).

This is all the crates of fireworks my neighbours set off. They did come and clear them away a little later.

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leffe186@reddit

Yeah we spent NYE in Amsterdam once when I was a kid and it was absolutely mental. I loved walking round on New Year’s Day and seeing the aftermath - all those red Chinese crackers everywhere. Someone said their A&E was carnage.

London’s far more like that now than I can ever remember. There’s a fireworks place close to us (changes to Xmas trees for a month before, that kind of place). The queue yesterday was insane. Took the dogs for a walk this morning and clearly a lot of people had just bought the fireworks, gone a block down the road and then set the lot off.

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j1mbleZ@reddit

The longer I live in Germany the more I have to agree. In Berlin at least, it is completely out of hand in some districts. I know that people travel to Poland to get them cheap and without licenses etc.

I'm not sure what can be done about it. Idk if there should be a total ban on them, but it can't be ignored much longer. It turns what should be a celebratory night for many into a chaotic mess.

Also, the thing I understand the least is people setting them off during the day - like wtf?

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Demostravius4@reddit

Or to put it another way, a majority of Germans support the freedom to purchase fireworks.

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indigomm@reddit

That would assume it is a binary yes/no choice. Whereas often with these it's a yes/no/don't know choice. You can assume don't know is the same as no change, but that isn't a statistically valid assumption.

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eventworker@reddit

If you check German reddit they don't actually want a ban, they just feel it's 'Hakan and Sergei' that are getting the most enjoyment out of the fireworks.

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Sufficient-Pie-5799@reddit

"enjoyment" yeah of course - you mean attacking police and ambulance with fireworks, setting fire to buildings and so on?

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eventworker@reddit

No, I mean using them in a responsible manner. They don't seem to be happy that this activity isn't restricted to white Germans.

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Icy-Initial2107@reddit

I'm not sure how they stop people just driving to the next country to get some.

They don't. There are "tour" buses you can take to a "Polenmarkt" (polish market very close to the border) which sell all kinds of fireworks all year, including professional stuff that requires a pyrotechnic/explosive license.

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Superspark76@reddit

They've been banned in NI for years and are still everywhere

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KitWith1Tea@reddit

Your an old grump

... soz you asked for it

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Intelligent_Emu_6239@reddit

You’re *

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

How do us proles get to view fireworks then? My nearest park suitable for fireworks displays is an hours walk away. It'd be full of expensive food vendors, etc.

Or I can spend forty quid and have fireworks at home for a bunch of select people with mulled wine, hot food and no long walk home.

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ryanwithbeardtkd@reddit

Agreed, used to live in nottingham, council pulled all firework shows, now live in sheffield, no council firework shows either, the only fireworks were by communities of people which was amazing to see when everyone came together and watched them. Some people just want the world to be boring.(I will note many countries around the world have huge firework displays all the time, don't get rid of the community based ones in the uk, we'll have nothing left!)

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

We need to build strong community events for all people. Regardless of class, colour or creed. Strong community ties are the future of our country. I'll die on this hill rather than a gated off, ticketed event for people with enough money to travel and enjoy the amenities once in the gate. Those events are not inclusive at all.

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Beat_Ambitious@reddit

Bet you’re dog licks pedigree chum off ya ball sack.

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oli_ramsay@reddit

Old grump

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Atlantean_Raccoon@reddit

I won't call you an old grump, you are completely right. Firework displays should only be allowed at licenced venues and with certified people setting them off. There is absolutely no need to be setting them off in the street like this, I don't care if it's New Years or Donny has choked on his final burger, fireworks have no place in the hands of amateurs or in residential areas. They are dangerous, disruptive, terrify most animals, these lot are not even having a display, they are just revelling in the chaos and noise for the sheer hell of it.

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Apprehensive_Yam_155@reddit

Not old, but as someone who had fireworks set off at the bus stop on my first week of secondary school, hard agree. Too many people are too stupid to be as safe as fireworks require them to be.

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YouCantPunchEveryone@reddit

honestly - yes. Poor doggos must be terrified let alone the danger to people and their homes/cars.

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Frothingdogscock@reddit

Ban dog ownership then ?

Your choice to own a dog shouldn't infringe on my choice to set off fireworks.

Or, you know, live and let live.

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YouCantPunchEveryone@reddit

it's not live and let live to the animals to explode fireworks in their habitat. Unlike us, who know the fireworks are harmless, the animals probably actually think ww3 is coming (they know about the world wars lol). Btw I'm not gonna pretend I should make the rules because I have terrible ideas. If I was in charge we literally would never have ever had cars or planes so like I know how crazy I am

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Frothingdogscock@reddit

But I don't own a dog.

See how selfish that sounds ?

My right to buy fireworks shouldn't depend on your decision to buy a dog.

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YouCantPunchEveryone@reddit

I don't own a dog either. I honestly have no idea how that has anything to do with this conversation

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platon29@reddit

I feel like there's no reason for them to explode so loudly, we are surely more technologically advanced than having to traumatise all the local wildlife like it's the Blitz. Silent fireworks should be the only ones available to buy for domestic use imo.

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dwardu@reddit

Lived in a road where a neighbour decided to set off fireworks, it hit peoples cars and all he did was chuckle and say it’s not his fault. And got offended when he was confronted

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headedbranch225@reddit

Pretty sure the Netherlands will have this for next year

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This_Comedian3955@reddit

I think banning them is probably a step too far, but there need to be much tighter restrictions on them. Register with ID and contact information when purchasing and sign a form which says you who purchased it is responsible for setting it off safely and in compliance with local laws and ordinances.

Enforcement isn’t easy though, and that’s what will make the most difference

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nikhkin@reddit

It always surprises me how readily they're available. Surely we all remember that time they had an accident with fireworks in Byker Grove.

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Queefmaster69000@reddit

Paintball markers too!

That glassy eyed stare of a blinded PJ stayed with me until I saw the glassy eyed stare of McPartlins drink driving pictures.

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Tricky_Assist_7086@reddit

Start the petition! I think many people would sign. Pet owners alone would be a sizeable number.

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Crits-and-Crafts@reddit

I agree. I love the big displays, but there's no need for them at home

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GrimReaapaa@reddit

Completely agree.

My dog gets so scared of them he ends up being up all night shivering from nerves.

I know one of my neighbours had a dog pass away due to fireworks, because it had a heart attack.

I don’t mind it once a year in a particular location then I’m able to work around it. But sadly this is something that won’t change until a celebrity or a member of a governments family gets affected by it.

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WealthMain2987@reddit

I agree with you. In November, some pricks were shooting fireworks from the park to the peoples houses which included mine.

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ScottOld@reddit

Yea same here but at cars. Someone rung the police, the station is literally 3 minutes walk around the corner.. yet nothing

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WealthMain2987@reddit

I rang 999 as well because it could hit someone in the garden or set off a fire. I was told they couldn't get the office out and next time call 101 because it is not urgent unless they are shooting it at people.

Silliness

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Magic_mousie@reddit

I'm 100% with you. I can spend a few hundred on some average fireworks and risk limb and property to set them off. Or I can spend £20 to go to an organised display, support a charity, and see fireworks worth thousands set off by a professional.

Even they're not without the risk of spectator injury but the odds are lower than my idiot self and a lighter.

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autofill-name@reddit

20 quid? I'm not paying that

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Dry_Action1734@reddit

Amazing to me that terrorists don’t use them instead of knives and cars. So readily available.

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FlockBoySlim@reddit

I looked into this a while back out of curiosity. Most fireworks still use gunpowder (potassium nitrate, charcoal, sulfur). But the chemicals are so low grade and inconsistently mixed that you'd need to collect a shit ton to have anything worth while for making a more deadly device.

They're also designed not to be tampered with and the risk of injury in doing so is actually way higher than the other ways folk make explosive devices (farm supplies, industrial resources etc).

They're also designed to burn rapidly which makes them crap for detonation

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JamieNelsonSwims@reddit

They should use water balloons and super soakers too

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RugbyEdd@reddit

They tend to aim to kill, and fireworks aren't a very effective way to kill people. They're inaccurate and have a small amount of actual explosive capability compared to things that can be made pretty easily if someone has the inclination.

Iknow reddit sometimes acts like they're handing live grenades to people, but think about it, fireworks are sold to anyone over 18 several times a year. That's hundreds of thousands of them in untrained hands. Yet death rates from them are so insignificant that the ONS doesn't even publish a record of them. They can start fires and injure people for sure, I'm not saying they're not dangerous, but they're not particularly lethal unless you intentionally held one against your neck or something. There are plenty of cases of big ones going off in a crowd of people and just causing minor burns.

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JamesHowell89@reddit

I witnessed a firework fight between two groups of dickhead teenagers a few years ago (didn’t seem like they were just messing about, had the masks and usual outfits on). They were aiming at each other but the fireworks were missing by pretty wide margins, so didn’t look like they would be that effective as a weapon thankfully.

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jcol26@reddit

Depending on the firework used a lot of them are far less effective at causing a mass casualty event compared to a car or knife

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Swimming_Gas7611@reddit

the thing is much like drugs, alcohol and knife crime, any sort of ban is too late now. people have stockades of them if if banned people like the idiots here wouls still get hold of them, it would just stop sensible people getting them.

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barrybreslau@reddit

They are also full of single use plastics now

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ChefPowerful4002@reddit

I dog hates them and I’m on his side. Ban them. He absolute wreak from Halloween onwards cos they are non stop wer I live

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Entire_Nerve_1335@reddit

Jesus what happened to modern liberalism? Response to everything is 'restrict me more please government'

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Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit

Oh no, people might be stopped from buying explosives which cause a large disruption to young children, pets and people who just don’t fucking like fireworks

How terrible

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eventworker@reddit

Isn't it. Then the same people turn around and wonder why we are poor.

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Bacon4Lyf@reddit

call me an old grump posts Reddits most favourite opinion this time of year

Daring today aren’t we?

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Jeoh@reddit

What's next, saying you'd prefer people to drive in lane 1 unless overtaking?

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Philster07@reddit

What do people can exploit firework displays for prodit

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MountainMuffin1980@reddit

It's been pushed in Scotland but there's weird free market laws that stop it happening. England etc need to agree to it as well.

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Saber101@reddit

I second this, they're banned in South Africa, and there's a lot that little country gets wrong, but banning residential fireworks is beneficial from a number of fronts.

For starters, it lowers fire risks, it's better for animals, and better for those who are disturbed by them.

It's also better for the people who enjoy fireworks, as a council can set a designated zone for it and everyone can enjoy the magnitude of them in one place.

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little_miss_anon@reddit

They just banned them in the Nerherlands. From today. As you can imagine, last night was complete carnage.

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UberS8n@reddit

Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't really work tho. I grew up in Ireland where fireworks are illegal. Which means there's a big black market trade in them. But the easiest ones to smuggle in and sell on street corners are bottle rockets and bangers. So instead of a nice selection of regulated, age restricted, coloured fireworks you get to live in what feels like a war zone for three months. Kids letting them off anywhere they can get away with and the police don't bother about it. You may not like it, but it's better than the alternative.

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Fullchimp@reddit

When I was a kid we had warnings about fireworks, now I see them having fireworks fights. What’s next, cheeky petrol fights?

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troyanhorse12@reddit

Ya’ll need to move to Ireland. Though some folks do still cross the border to buy fireworks in NI.

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OptionalQuality789@reddit

Oh but then you trample all over people’s personal “freedom” to fire explosives in the street 🙄

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Away-Activity-469@reddit

I wholeheartedly agree. The UK loves banning things and regulating every aspect of our lives, it's surprising they weren't banned years ago.

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Whatiii@reddit

Disagree with banning only domestic ones. If we decide fireworks should not be allowed, ban them all.

I would just prefer there having to be specialist shops with records of the customers, every customer having to in the last 5 years have done a short safety class run by the shop with records kept. Just increase friction in the purchasing of fireworks, a few extra hoops to go through will significantly reduce the number of people having their own fireworks while still keeping it available for anyone who wants them.

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TorstedTheUnobliged@reddit

Old grump. Happy now?

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WonderfulTip4869@reddit

You miserable sods.. it’s NYE 90% of people light fireworks on this day what’s wrong with that

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aRealSaltyBlue@reddit

You sound miserable.

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theohyeahproveitguy@reddit

Are the police allowed to let people do things is a weird take

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Statement-Acceptable@reddit

It's a massive scumbag/dickhead move to do this. It's not even the legality that makes it scummy imo, it's the utter lack of morals and respect for your litteral neighbours and local community.

Pathetic show of 'I can do something that I know will piss people off to no end but because I have an excuse I will do it anyways' type of behaviour that I try to avoid at all times.

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White_horseTribe@reddit

Exactly how I feel. Last night was like a competition around here. Took my dogs out for a walk, and just like magic. The first one went off the second we got out.

My older dog froze- he’s sensitive and fireworks seriously affect him.. and me.

Then they all started. For hours. Selfish assholes. Childish, morons, “me make bang. Me film heheh “ me so clever.

I fu king hate them. Signed - another old grump

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Illustrious-Baker775@reddit

Why would you decide to walk your firework sensitive dog on new years eve? Im calling bs.

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White_horseTribe@reddit

Bc it was early eve and there wasn’t any firing. WTF would a sane person lie about that? I call you are You projecting

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_Red_Knight_@reddit

Just don't walk your dog at all on New Years Eve. It's not rocket science.

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SituationThink3487@reddit

How are you guys this up your own arse. The entire point of his comment was that he cant take his dogs out because of the fireworks. You're literally agreeing with him, but because reddit, theres a pathological need for everyone to be a smug cunt about it.

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White_horseTribe@reddit

Ahh you’re the firework type. Got it

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_Red_Knight_@reddit

It's no use getting defensive about it. The fact is that fireworks exist whether you like it or not. Your responsibility as the owner of a nervous dog is to keep it indoors on days when fireworks are likely to be let off. Don't blame others for your weaknesses as a pet owner.

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White_horseTribe@reddit

Grow the fuck up. Weakness.. tou real or what? That’s what I’m grumbling about. Of course I know they exist. I’m just having a moan, at the moronic cheers and filming filming filming of home firework shows that imo started early.

If they went off at 12 I’m not gonna moan about that. But after 6pm it was lkle guy Fawkes night all night. Fuckkng melts .. morons. And you’re one of em no doubt. If anyone is defending here it’s you. Ashoka

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Illustrious-Baker775@reddit

Lmfao, i dont think you know what projecting means

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White_horseTribe@reddit

Course I do. You think I’m lying about shit on Reddit or bc you do.

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AlphaBeast28@reddit

It was NYE you melon, what was you expecting? Everyone to just to stop and be like “oh hey they’ve got the dog out?”

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SituationThink3487@reddit

Yeah if only we could get everyone to just let the NYE fireworks off at once by specifying a particular time to let them off at???

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popsand@reddit

Walking your dog at new years eve and complaining is some next level persecution fetish

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SituationThink3487@reddit

?????

Have you ever owned a dog before? You have to walk them at least once a day.

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Demostravius4@reddit

If he didn't he wouldn't be able to whinge at others enjoying themselves.

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JamJarre@reddit

Why should other people care about your dog? "Me have dog, you no have fun!"

Cake and ale problem, this.

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RazzmatazzLost1750@reddit

You took your dog out - that you knew is 'seriously affected' by fireworks - on NYE evening... is this your first NYE?

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cornishyinzer@reddit

We need that meme with the guy with the stick and the bicycle wheel, stat!

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White_horseTribe@reddit

There wasn’t any fireworks.. until I left the house.

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popsand@reddit

That's how fireworks work.

They aren't there until.... boom

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themcsame@reddit

But you knew it was New years...

I mean, I'm with you that it's just dumb people setting them off privately. But let's not pretend that you're completely absolved of responsibility for that situation...

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RazzmatazzLost1750@reddit

You're so close to getting it

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

Why did you take your dog out for a walk at midnight of new years eve? Do you people still have a brain ?

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White_horseTribe@reddit

No of course not lol.. it was like 6pm

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niwia@reddit

Taking dog out for walk during new years is a bold move to begin with.

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Beartato4772@reddit

They were doing it on my road, which is about half this width and has overhanging trees instead of houses on one side.

Insanity.

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callu80@reddit

In my day u couldnt buy fireworks, we had to make our own.....

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beanpole_1976@reddit

Are they allowed? The modern UK Police are not a law enforcement ’force’. They are the physical arm of the government. They are there to enforce government policy and keep the population in check to allow the government to carry out their will. The ‘law’ doesn’t come into it, at least not in the sense you think it does.

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OkTicket4588@reddit

Yep cool as milk mate. Totally agree.

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Weak-Intention69@reddit

They probably thought they were giving the street a free display …. Jesus

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AlwaysNorth8@reddit

Call the police instead of crying on reddit would be a start

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trtrtr82@reddit

What makes you think they're free to stop? Police cars don't usually just drive about randomly. They're probably on their way to a call and can't stop

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Then they should have blues and twos on.

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DD265@reddit

It takes months/years to get the course allowing an officer to drive with lights/sirens and break the law. In the meantime, officers have to get to jobs as quickly as they can without those tools.

I'm not sure how much of the "delay" is deliberate Vs high turnover and not enough course capacity. IIRC, my friend got offered their course after 4-5 months and that was deemed quite quick.

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Ridiculous! Police officers months on the job that can put lights on but are authorised to drive police vehicles? Which fucking idiot dreamt that one up.

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Apprehensive_End8318@reddit

People who realise you don't just hop in a car and be able to drive safely whilst responding to an accident.

170k officers in the UK.

~15 days training for response driving.

2.5m days to train every single office to drive on response, care to tell me where that time is coming from?

I expect if they started training every officer to do that you'd be complaining even more that you're seeing fewer police around while that is happening.

Just use your head, a little, please.

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Why should we have officers driving response vehicles without the correct training?

I am using my head and I am struggling to understand why we have a situation where we have officers behind the wheel of police response vehicles without the correct training.

We don't give out tasers without training (or do we?).

You don't let someone drive a forklift in a warehouse but don't train them on how to use the lifting forks. In no other job would you be expected to operate a piece of equipment without the correct training (or at least no job with a responsible employer).

It seems that people are really happy to excuse the fact that we don't seem to be training police officers properly and that their leadership create a culture where those officers feel at liberty to walk or drive past criminal activity that is in progress without doing anything about it. What an utterly shit country we live in.

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Apprehensive_End8318@reddit

Ha move then! Don't let the door smack you on the back of the head and knock some common sense into you on the way out.

👋

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

What a lame response. God forbid I want a functional police force that actually deals with low level crime and antisocial behaviour.

Common sense is not police apologetics, despite how much you want it to be.

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Apprehensive_End8318@reddit

God forbid you reading my previous message and not taking a word of it in. Cheers!

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Took all of it. Don't agree that it justifies the actions of the police in ignoring criminal activity.

Disagreement is not the same as not understanding what you are saying, again despite the fact that you seem to want it to be.

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Apprehensive_End8318@reddit

Well you were still blathering on about them driving past and not doing anything when you don't know the situation, as has been discussed, there could be any number of reasons they couldn't stop, they could have anything going on.

So you're not understanding what myself, and others, have been saying, as that has been covered.

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Apprehensive_End8318@reddit

No they shouldn't. You can be sent to an incident which is a priority job without the need to break the rules of the road and the need for blues and twos.

They could be conveying a prisoner to custody.

Any number of reasons they won't be using blues and twos and also cannot stop.

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Full of excuses.

Two cars driving past without stopping, two. Both apparently on very important high priority business but not important enough to have their lights on.

How fucking convenient.

Or it could be that they think they have more important things to do as they do regularly when people have calls left unresponded to after being victims of crimes.

We have literally had Chief Constables state that officers will just not respond to what they seem as low level criminal behaviour, yet you are still providing excuses.

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zZCycoZz@reddit

Police cars don't usually just drive about randomly.

Isnt that pretty much what a patrol is?

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HarryPopperSC@reddit

We don't have police patrols anymore. We haven't done for years.

My friend works for the police he goes into the office there is a lost of cases he can choose to work. He goes and does that. If he gets called in for training or a big case that requires numbers.

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

They largely only have patrols when media attention on their utter lack of care about low level crime and antisocial behaviour becomes too much and the chief constable has people breathing down their necks.

We had a ridiculous situation in a local town where a bunch of kids went on a multi-day rampage around the shops in the town centre causing thousands of pounds worth of damage and intimidating and threatening shop owners and members of the public. The police were repeatedly called and did not respond. It hit the local news and media and all of a sudden there were bobbies on every street corner while the cameras were out. Utterly pathetic.

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HarryPopperSC@reddit

Well it works like this... There isn't enough police officers. They have meetings where the new head of police has the same boring ideas of how to stretch officers in different ways. My friend has been going round this roundabout for years. It's the same old shit. And you just sit there and say same as last week sir... Not enough officers can you look into that? No? OK then.

So if you want police on patrol, that means cases don't get worked.

If you want cases worked. They don't go on patrol.

So on and so forth.

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

Well they have been repeatedly told by just about every body involved in scrutinising policing that they are failing, not using their resources properly and making choices that actively reduce trust in the police, but they still do it.

I get there is not enough resources, there are not enough resources anywhere, but they have been repeatedly told that completely neglecting antisocial behaviour is a mistake and yet they persist in having a system where officers are expected to ignore active criminal behaviour further eroding trust and failing to recognise the impact such behaviour has on local communities.

The fact that a chief constable can waste resources like the example I posted above after the horse has bolted is an utter failure of leadership.

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ShambolicNerd@reddit

Sorry, are police patrolling a waste of resources or needed in your opinion? Because you've said both...

Also, you're right. Media pressure will mean police end up doing stupid BS to deal with low level criminal damage rather than domestic abuse, child sexual exploitation, human trafficking....

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Only_Tip9560@reddit

No I haven't, I have said we need proper patrols to tackle low level crime and anti-social behaviour. We do not need PR exercises that waste time and resources.

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clutchnorris123@reddit

Police Scotland where I live 100% go on patrol. I live near the centre of a 50k population town and I see them on their patrols every day multiple times mostly driving but sometimes walking as well.

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Superguy230@reddit

How have you been downvoted

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clutchnorris123@reddit

No idea mate guess the wee reddit nerds don't like it if you go against their narrative.

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

I don’t think there are many patrols nowadays. Police get assigned a job, like a taxi with a wee screen in the front, and they have to drive there. Unless it’s life and death, they’ll just drive by any misdemeanours that they see.

And it takes years of service and luck to be given the course to allow the use of blue light and siren. So that cop car doing 20mph past a scrote setting off fireworks could be responding as quickly as they can to someone being viciously assaulted.

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zZCycoZz@reddit

I didnt realise that it takes a while before theyre allowed the blue lights/siren.

Thanks for the interesting info.

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Barkasia@reddit

All officers need to do basic training to drive police cars.

They need response training to use the equipment and break road laws.

They need advanced training for specialist response/pursuit roles.

The amount of individual qualifications they need for various roles is something I'd never even considered but makes total sense when you think about it.

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Abject-Challenge-191@reddit

Correct.

Response driver (respond on blue lights to call) - 3 week training course.

Advanced driver (roads policing, firearms etc) - 4 week training course.

Pursuit management (be involved in a pursuit) - 1 additional week after completing advanced driver.

There are numerous other courses for other roles, vehicles, specialisms but your average traffic cop has at a mimum 8 weeks of full time driver training courses just to be in that role.

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

It seems to me the sort of thing which should be covered as part of basic police training. Get every copper out the door with a ticket to use blue lights and sirens to get quickly from place to place and pull drivers over. Fair enough, pursuit might be a specialism but use of blue lights and sirens seems very basic for a police officer’s duties.

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qing_sha_wo@reddit

Bobbies weren’t even allowed to drive at all in their first two years! until the last 20 odd years or so

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

Yes, but they used to head out and just wander round, seeing what was what. And maybe giving a kick up the arse, a stern threat, or even just some advice.

Nowadays, they have to go to where they’re sent by a controller.

if they don’t follow the book to the letter, someone films them and they get sacked.

Policing is now just following an ever increasing rule book.

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qing_sha_wo@reddit

I am a Bobby and I can say I still go out and do 2-3 hours of foot patrol most days but that’s my remit effectively there’s only 2 cops in our area that can do that and as you can imagine some days are so busy you don’t even get to do 10 minutes of patrol!

My favourite part of the job is knowing most people in the local estates and being able to pop round whenever I need to or if ever there’s an issue in the area, the locals look after me and I look after them and I think that’s a relationship that has been lost in most areas in the country. Damaged by ‘response’ policing

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

Damaged by year upon year of financial cuts to the police.

I’m sure most police would like to develop that kind of relationship that you mention, rather than going at high speed from one fight to the next to the next.

It seems that the police are only now able to respond to, not prevent trouble.

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qing_sha_wo@reddit

^^ correct!

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Abject-Challenge-191@reddit

I dont disagree, but I guess its an expensive course to put people through & with a lot of people not making it through the probationary period, they would rather wait?

In my force at least, there is a seperate online training course which takes an hour or two & allows you to use the lights/sirens to pull vehicles over or protect a road at a collision, even if you arent response trained.

Pursuit requires an "advanced" (BMW, Audi, Cupra etc) vehicle to even be authorised by the control room, so even if a response cop was somehow advanced/pursuit management trained they still wouldnt get approved to pursue in a peugot/panda car anyway.

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Omegul@reddit

It’s usually after 2 years and majority of that you’re in training anyway

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Frap_Gadz@reddit

My sister in law is a police officer and it took her something like 5 years before she got the chance to do the response driving course, before that she had to drive to any calls the same as any other motorist would.

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Wretched_Colin@reddit

When she was 4 years in the cops, majorly experienced, gets a call on the radio of a man beating his wife, and all she can do is travel there at the 20mph limit because the car tracks her speed and she’ll get sanctioned if she drives as quickly as your average private motorist.

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Important-Zebra-69@reddit

On New Year's Eve I'm fairly sure they are dealing with a constant stream of calls ranging from robberies to domestic abuse to rape.

So no I don't think what a patrol is doing these days as there simply isn't enough police to enforce nuisance while violent crime is happening (statistically more on NYE).

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PhDinDildos_Fedoras@reddit

Might be a patrol, but there's such a huge volume of calls they have to prioritize if they are going out on a call.

Would you rather go get a statement from a domestic violence victim right away or stop and write tickets every time you see fireworks on New Year's on the way there.

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tmr89@reddit

They don’t patrol anymore

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KebabAnnhilator@reddit

They definitely do.

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Wraith_2493@reddit

Not true

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LemmysCodPiece@reddit

If a Police car is patrolling around here, it means they are lost.

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popsand@reddit

Haha.

Patrols are not a thing. That's the sort of "free time" they don't have.

If a police officer sees you do somethinh reckless while out - he has to make a judgement call.

Is this crime worth stopping?

That's the state of this country.

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Sensitive-Fishing-64@reddit

There aren't any patrols on NYE, almost all will be responses. It's a VERY busy night

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Crichtenasaurus@reddit

Yeah but on New Years not a chance they’ve enough people on to be proactive. Will be far too many calls outstanding, you get caught ‘patrolling’ you’ll get bollocked by the control room governor.

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zZCycoZz@reddit

Yeah thats a fair point, new years is probably mental for them.

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FailPowerful5476@reddit

Exactly they have more serious issues to deal with. Grandma Betty had a few too many sherrys and posted a mean comment online.

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Wise-Pay-8993@reddit

Mate its NYE why be so miserable about it. I was at bed at 10 with windows open and no fireworks woke me up as i was a sleep. Even if they did its NYE.

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Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit

How is not wanting people setting off explosives on a street being miserable?

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JamJarre@reddit

This guy calls the police on people drinking in the pub like "those people are doing DRUGS in there officer!"

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marmaviscount@reddit

Because it's a long standing tradition and people having fun is good

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Competitive-Lion-213@reddit

People having fun is good. But what if the majority of people are in bed and a few people's fun make's their lives less fun, surely by your own fun-o-meter it's better not to have them?

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FlockBoySlim@reddit

But what if the majority of people are in bed and a few people's fun makes their lives less fun

Devils advocate - what if the majority of people on that street were out having fun and it's just op and a handful/minority of folk that are in their bed. Should the fun not be allowed to please the 2 or 3 folk not participating?

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Competitive-Lion-213@reddit

Totally valid question. Mine was purely hypothetical. Personally I’d be happy if all the fireworks stopped, but I’m a bit of a grouchy introvert about these things. I’m just saying in terms of my area, based on the number of fireworks it seems likely the majority of people did not set off fireworks. Maybe most people enjoyed them, maybe most didn’t. If they didn’t - hypothetically, more fun would be had without them.

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FlockBoySlim@reddit

Yeah fwiw I'd outlaw them in a second if I had any say (also grouchy introvert) but I try to let it go on the big dates, new years, bonfire night, Diwali etc it starts to bother me more when people continue letting them off days or even weeks after those events. Or my old neighbour who just set them off any time someone had a birthday or an anniversary etc

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Competitive-Lion-213@reddit

Totally agree. The ones on random dates can be frustrating

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marmaviscount@reddit

We have established days where partying has happened for centuries if not millennia, people celebrate new years around the world and it's an important moment for a lot of people.

We already restrict fun most the year, you can't take away people's fun days.

And yes I sat in and watched sopranos with my girlfriend so no I'm not a fun person either but I recognize people who want fun should be able to have it and them doing it on set days I can be aware of is a great system.

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Wise-Pay-8993@reddit

Mate the problem with the uk is they love banning anything because a few people are annoyed about it. My families never celebrated new years and we have never had a problem at all with people celebrating. There's only a few times a year people get to be with friends and families to celebrate.

So much complaining by pet owners. Just because your dog isn't trained properly isn't my fault. I also hate the climate risk people when it comes to this. As one rich persons private yacht journey will release more pollution then i will my entire life.

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Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit

Im sorry, but they’re in the middle of a fucking street

It could hit someone, and dont say that they shouldn’t be walking there, it’s a street, thats what they’re for.

It could hit a car, it could hit a window ffs

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marmaviscount@reddit

It's safer than in the garden and maybe they don't have a garden. You can't cram people into flats then say they're not allowed to use public space.

They're not going to hit anything because they're firing directly upwards and they're only fireworks yeah you don't want to get hit by one but it's not going to blow out windows or damage a car unless you're very unlucky -: when I was young people used to drive round my area dropping lit rockets out their cars and throwing Catherine wheels, I remember seeing a car with guys holding silver rain out the windows and racing around. That I agree was dangerous, this is responsible use of a shared space and I'm sure many people on the road enjoyed them also. There are people watching out and who would alert anyone in risk of going close, you gotta let people have fun or the world will be miserable and everyone will hate each other all the time, we've gone too far down that route let's not go further.

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Wise-Pay-8993@reddit

people also act like UK fireworks are explosives like c4. I've bought fireworks every year and they are not risky at all. We had over 60 firework rockets, and 20 cakes and a few roman candles this year for Diwali, no problems at all. If the cake firework displayed in the OP's video was to hit a car or window it wouldn't do any damage apart from a little bit of black marks which most likely will rub off.

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Mental-Fudge9845@reddit

Yeh people having fun by letting off fireworks right outside people’s windows. Do one, you big massive bell end.

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redbullcat@reddit

Setting fireworks off in the middle of a street near parked cars, and other things they could hit, with people in houses trying to sleep on both sides, isn't "a long standing tradition".

Fireworks in a garden or large open space? Sure. In a confined area such a street? That's just irresponsible and dangerous.

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

Because it's new years eve. we've been doing this for centuries. It's a fun activity and there's nothing wrong with it. If you don't like it that's you, but the fact that you wanna ruin the fun for others is what makes you miserable.

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jpepsred@reddit

I was almost struck by a misfired firework last night. The homeowners responsible didn’t seem the slightest bit bothered that it passed along the ground a couple of metres in front of me. I’m fine with people doing it in their back garden where they can only injure themselves, but the law needs to be enforced on people doing it on the street.

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HotPotatoWithCheese@reddit

Yeah, not everyone like you instantly falls asleep, snores at 6000 dB and can't be woken up by anything.

I was out clubbing, so thankfully I was spared the fate of being kept awake by fireworks. Usually I can't stand them.

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JamJarre@reddit

It seems like you don't understand that it's NYE?

Literally a minute after midnight as well. Let people have fun instead of begging for them to be dobbed in

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freethekeegz@reddit

The police let people burgle houses and shop life they're not going to be bothered about fireworks

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Impressive-Bird-6085@reddit

There is a special place in hell for scrotes that set off fireworks in such a highly irresponsible, high dangerous and damaging manner!

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BigReference1xx@reddit

Never, ever go to Iceland on New Years Eve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fMrivfa__s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txumr4N_is0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkd-jakuWak&t=54s

Regards - an Icelander.

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Important-Zebra-69@reddit

Are the police what?... Do you think they are watching every street?

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soulofsoy@reddit

Same where I live. Narrowly missing folk but locals think it was "well managed" by morons. I wish they'd just stop selling them to people.

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Objective_Sea787@reddit

bradford? leicester? birmingham?

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Juliteepee@reddit

Reading this @ 2am and realizing there's the faint popping of fireworks in the background 😦

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AlphaBeast28@reddit

Imagine complaining that people are setting off fireworks on the one night of the year that everyone does. You miserable gits 😂

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

Most miserable reddit thread ever. Also full of rich people assuming we can all afford to get to a public display, hydrate and eat whilst there. Travel home after the display is over.

Nah. I'll keep buying my own ones before these puritans take my fireworks from me because their dog doesn't like it.

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Available-Ad1979@reddit

How are you so skint you cant afford to hydrate yourself

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Buddy-Matt@reddit

I suspect hydrate in this context means consume several plastic cups of bottled beer sold by the Lions.

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

... and no. I don't drink beer, and don't consume alcohol if I'm out with my kids. Let that sink into your worldview of what kind of person you've guessed incorrectly that I am.

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Available-Ad1979@reddit

Just for the record I think i guessed correctly

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Available-Ad1979@reddit

I suspect the commenter has other issues if a burger from a van and a can of pop are considered luxuries for the landed gentry

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

It wasn't saying I can't afford hydration. It's more than if you're traveling with a few of you, a litre of water is a bit cumbersome (each). It's therefore expensive to buy drinks from vendors.

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Available-Ad1979@reddit

what like a can of coke and a hotdog is too expensive? what financial choices are you making where this is prohibitively expensive?

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

I don't need to justify anything to you. Fuck off with the questions, you sad git.

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Buddy-Matt@reddit

Also full of rich people assuming we can all afford to get to a public display, hydrate and eat whilst there. Travel home after the display is over.

This is an absolutely wild fucking take. There are plenty of reasons I can see a garden display being preferable for people, but cost absolutely isn't one. It cost us 18 quid as a family of four to go to one of our local displays. Less than a 10 mile round trip (so way less than 2 quid unless your car is insanely thirsty). No need to buy food/drink while you're there unless you want to. (We went to two displays this year, and in both cases ate at home/friends house before leaving). And I feel safe in my assumption the quality would have outstripped even the most expensive garden variety box/barrage - and certainly anything that can be got for 20 quid

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

You assume I can afford a car? Nope. It's a roof over my kids heads (and mine) or a car. One or the other.

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Buddy-Matt@reddit

I assume nothing, not being able to get to the event due to shit public transport and expensive taxi fares is a fair reason, but car ownership isn't exclusively a "rich people" thing either.

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

Ok. Not all car owners are rich. I'll concede that . They're simply a lot better off financially than I am.

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jelly10001@reddit

So you'd still be laughing if a firework hit your house or car and set it on fire?

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jelly10001@reddit

I'm a bit worried that so many people here don't see the issue with letting off fireworks in the middle of the street.

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footyspecular1234@reddit

I'll also never back down from the opinion that domestic fireworks should be banned. It used to be that people were responsibly setting of a few of them and it only lasted for a brief amount of time.

Nowadays some people talk like noise mimicking ww2-style airwarfare is like some sort of tradition that should be respected, lmao. I genuinely forget fireworks even exist until the sounds start emerging during New Years Eve, I remember people by and large unironically feel enjoyment out of 'boom boom heavy explosions'

And it is not like going to a football game where you can easily avoid the loud and epic atmosphere by not living as a nextdoor neighbour near a stadium.

So much animal suffering, trash everywhere and harrassment of myself and millions of other people who would rather enjoy peacefulness with friends and family, for literally no reason at all except "boom-boom-lights, wow so exciting!"

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Lambsenglish@reddit

Is it safe? No. Is it allowed? Yes.

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SnowBear78@reddit

No, it's actually against the law to set off fireworks in public places and on the street, regardless of the time of year.

The only difference for NY Eve is you're allowed to set off fireworks from your gardens - YOUR property - later into the evening.

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Lambsenglish@reddit

Well, I sit corrected then.

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ND8586@reddit

They have better things to be worried about

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horrgakx@reddit

What "law" is this against do you think?

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SnowBear78@reddit

The actual law that states no fireworks can be set off in the street or on public land.

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Runawaygeek500@reddit

Why not? They are in the middle of the road, shooting them up to the sky.

What’s the difference between that or your garden?

Regardless of your the views on if they should or should not be banned, the fact is, they are not and if safely launched, then so be it.

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SnowBear78@reddit

It's public property / the street, which makes it illegal

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Ok-Hovercraft9348@reddit

We're not allowed to set off fireworks in parks so it must be forbidden in roads. By the time the police get there it's probably over and they're very busy on NYE

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Traditional-Bug7136@reddit

How to piss the entire street off

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marmaviscount@reddit

It's a celebration, we used to have parties in the street all the time and fireworks

This generation is obsessively antisocial and gets upset by everything

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SnowBear78@reddit

It's illegal.

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AmLilleh@reddit

This generation is obsessively antisocial and gets upset by everything

I'd say it's more that a lot of people seem to take the piss with everything these days and it's leading to more and more people growing fed up with it all.

I actually like a good firework but this (well, last) year was basically a continual 3-month barrage of fireworks every evening/night. Like I'm all for a celebration and a good time but why do we need to be letting rockets off at 12:47am on a random tuesday?

The growing resentment at crap like that leads to people becoming miserly about all of it even when it's fair like NYE.

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Traditional-Bug7136@reddit

I'm from the generation where we have no time for stupidity or lack of common sense, I suppose going to the local park or a display is too much to figure out for these people. Too much alcohol is killing their brain cells

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metrize@reddit

finally someone said it, so many nimbys on reddit that hate peoples fun and will wonder why nobody is having kids to pay their pension

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

No, only brain dead people get upset with fireworks on new years eve

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Sensitive-Fishing-64@reddit

You'd think an entire street call deal with it themselves

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HelloVideoGame@reddit

From Gov.UK

“The law says you must not set off or throw fireworks (including sparklers) in the street or other public places.

You must not set off fireworks between 11pm and 7am, except for:

Bonfire Night, when the cut off is midnight New Year’s Eve, Diwali and Chinese New Year, when the cut off is 1am”

So as long as it’s not a category 4 firework, all legal. And, personally, would rather the police be going out to/looking out for more serious crimes.

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SnowBear78@reddit

You're misunderstanding.

It is never legal to set off fireworks in the street or on public land.

The caveat was about the time only.

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adamm255@reddit

Time exceptions only for those dates. Other than that it’s still illegal to do this in the street/public places.

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gukakke@reddit

The police have more important things to do, like arrest people over internet posts.

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HotPotatoWithCheese@reddit

I'd ban the fucking things altogether if I were in charge. I like a good party as much as the next person, but fireworks are annoying as shit and used dangerously far too often. And before I get the usual lot coming back with "would you ban knives" as predictably as ever, knives serve a clear function in every day life. Fireworks are simply not necessary, especially ones sold for domestic purposes. They keep people awake, frighten pets and cause damage when used by utter bellends. It's one of those things I think we should just let the yanks keep along with open carry firearms.

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logant0711@reddit

Slightly unrelated but last night the fireworks stopped at quarter past, I get it it’s a new year but I want to sleep please don’t have 15 bloody minutes of fireworks

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Efficient-Art7332@reddit

40 years ago police would have put a stop to it. No new laws necessary,the will is not there

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Marvel--Jesus@reddit

Still getting it now. 19:30. I think they must have forgot about an extra box of fireworks from yesterday.

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doepfersdungeon@reddit

Try living in Amsterdam. Its like a war zone.

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asimpleonlinenumpty@reddit (OP)

So just realised how many comments were on here, I honestly thought this would maybe get one or 2 comments just calling me a grump (which yes a part of me is)

So just wanted to address some stuff

I know and agree with many when they said police are few and far between l/probably have worse emergencies etc but I also agree this those who say most probably don't care. I found out later the two police cars that went by were patrolling and there were several more throughout the night. I assume just to keep moving in case of other crimes
a few also stated it's still illegal to set them off in the street, I did find on .Gov that even with the exception of bonfire night, Nye etc it still carries a fine or prison time if set off in the middle of the road but even with that, I assume they probably still give people leeway around holiday times
To the many commenters saying "it's one day a year" and to get over it... It's not though is it? Bonfire night, Halloween, Christmas, various religious holidays. There's a whole shop full of fireworks right round the corner from me - they don't sell anything else. Bonfire night and NYE are definitely the loudest and I expect it every year and I will get over it, I always do. But I also expect it again tonight, and tomorrow, and when someone has a birthday or passes their driving test or it's a Tuesday. As I was reading the comments, they were going off behind my house (and it's day time 😂)

So in conclusion yeah I think I'm just complaining like so many others, I'll get over it as no one is hurt, just a bit frustrated by the trash in the street now as many in my area either flytip or just leave the rubbish as is

Not really much else to say other than thanks for the responses all. And Happy New Year

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ShambolicNerd@reddit

How did you find out that the police 'were patrolling'? Because patrols on NYE are... unlikely... to say the least.

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Able-Total-881@reddit

Yes the police are allowed because they have the right to exercise discretion and it's not all about you.

This happened at just past midnight on one of the busiest nights of the year for all emergency services. I guarantee that there were many more incidents being reported of a much more serious nature.

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TParcollet@reddit

Random Fireworks have been banned in MANY countries (including selling them). Can’t wait for this to happen here tbh.

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Baaaldiee@reddit

Considering how things are regulated in the uk and they banned “bangers” years ago for being dangerous, it blows my mind you can buy these form the supermarket.

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EffectiveAlarming875@reddit

Lol... be in Germany

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elementarydrw@reddit

I live in Germany now. And this is the norm on NYE. All evening you hear fireworks, and then at midnight all hell breaks loose, and the streets are full of them. It was 0130 when it subsided last night, and the debris this morning is atrocious.

It's spread over the border into neighbouring countries now too, so I'm not surprised it's hit the UK.

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investtill@reddit

Wakey wakey mother fuckers was probably goal here.

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toon_84@reddit

Introvert pet owners - A thread......

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

Miserable introverts at that.

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Existing-Orange-3212@reddit

People who leave dog shit everywhere complaining about people not thinking of their dogs.

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Sorry-Programmer9826@reddit

Probably had something higher priority they were going to.

Blocking the highway with a series of explosions definitely isn't allowed, but if it was vaguely under control and they were going to something less under control it doesn't make sense to stop and delay getting to where they were going

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

that's not an highway

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Hellstorm901@reddit

All public roads in the UK are considered a "highway" under the Highways Act, the term highway and "A highway" are different things with the latter being the common name for a specific type of road

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tobotic@reddit

Even footpaths are considered highways in many cases.

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

And it wasn't even blocked lol. Literally a car goes past the fireworks in the video

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I_am_Reddit_Tom@reddit

As long as you don't watch the public ones for free in London everything is fine

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

??

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caneverant@reddit

Now, you understand its the UK...

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craftaleislife@reddit

If not on private property it’s against the law. I’d imagine the police were on their way to an existing call…

Out of curiosity, did you call the police?

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PTRJK@reddit

I don’t mind it. For what it’s worth it’s a tradition on Holland. Everyone comes out the street and lets out fireworks. It’s a community thing.

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adamm255@reddit

It’s illegal in the UK to set fireworks off on public spaces outside of an organised event. In your back garden, go nuts. Elsewhere, no go.

I did see the tradition got a bit out of hand last night in the Netherlands.

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adamm255@reddit

“unless part of an organised event by licensed professionals, fireworks cannot be used on the street or in a public place

it’s an offence to throw or set off any firework (including sparklers and category 1 fireworks) in or into any highway, street, thoroughfare or public space”

https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/asb/asb/antisocial-behaviour/fireworks/

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evil666overlord@reddit

I would love to see the police try to stomp them out

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Flashy-Nectarine1675@reddit

Just to be clear, these things are poisonous.

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WeirdMinimum121@reddit

I think it depends what ethnicity/community the group doing the fireworks come from

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wandering_light_12@reddit

I don't mind seeing them. Hearing them is another matter. I'd like to see a ban on noise emitting ones and the sale limited to a couple of days before 5/11 and 31/12 and whenever diwali is. That would stop idiots I think.

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TechWOP@reddit

A sane, civil society would ban at least firecrackers.

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SchrodingersCorpse@reddit

What’s the name of the street and post code? It might be diverse enough to be woke and politically sensitive and the police might never do anything about it.

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Limp_Marionberry_24@reddit

If you complain and they happen to be of a different ethnicity than you.. You're going straight to jail So yes, the answer is yes

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Chinateapott@reddit

This happened to us! I don’t mind fireworks but they literally set them off outside our house (next to a dry bush and dry tree!) it was like waking up in a war zone,my son was so scared it took us 2 hours to get him back to sleep.

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parasoralophus@reddit

You should try going to a German city on NYE.

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Immediate-Doughnut50@reddit

Does someone think that police ‘oversee’ all activity ?

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Realistic-Abroad5231@reddit

https://www.gov.uk/fireworks-the-law It is illegal

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mrimagine23@reddit

I live in an apartment building. Last night we saw fireworks being lit by one of the neighbours from their balcony...

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OddPerspective9833@reddit

Sounds like a spectacle

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AdventurousTeach994@reddit

For your information, as you live in the UK- the correct term is NEW YEAR or NEW YEAR'S EVE/NEW YEARS DAY.

NEW YEARS is just another of those horrible American words that has polluted our speech.

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PENIS_FUCK_MONSTER@reddit

This isn't even close to true. Even Oscar Wilde referred to it as "new years" in the importance of being earnest.

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Hellstorm901@reddit

The police are mainly concerned with people launching fireworks to cause trouble such as kids launching them at passing cars, a family launching them in the street isn't ideal but the police know it isn't being done to purposely harm people and that if they intervene it will tie up officers who may be needed elsewhere especially if the family become angry that their festivities are being ruined by the police

This is more a matter for the Fire Service to be dealing with by advising fire safety to the family

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PresidentPopcorn@reddit

It's new years eve at night. Do you not think the police might’ve been on their way to something worse? Besides they could have dashcam evidence now to use later for warnings/fines.

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Chimpanzerschreck@reddit

You should see Germany

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Kooky_Main_1546@reddit

Yes that's normal, and it's just once a year. Get over it.

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Terrible-Group-9602@reddit

Wtf the police just drive through????

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Lil_Hater112@reddit

There should be a special place set by the town where people can come and set fireworks

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janner_womble@reddit

Tbf, in the current climate, if they were to intervene, they will have encountered some of the likely local community heroes (you know, the Poundland Oracles who molest roundabouts, swagger around with 'ardman dogs, never work, but know the answer to absolutely everything) and been attacked with fireworks in the name of free speech.

But yeah, as that's a public space in a residential street with no permit, that is breaking the law.

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Thestickleman@reddit

I like fire works but I tend to not let them off in the middle of the street

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Early_Retirement_007@reddit

The chavs are out a gain.

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evil_DR_3037@reddit

The sound reminds me of that time I dropped a load of cans in my cupboard,soup everywhere!

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Pigzhead@reddit

I had to get up at 5am for work this morning and there were bursts of fireworks from 9pm until 1:30am this morning.

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Aware-Plankton-8711@reddit

All I know is I have a cat and she’s terrified of fireworks so I’m all for a ban probably in a minority but there’s just no need for them I’ve never understood where the attraction is 🤔

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Rasples1998@reddit

Fireworks are more about collectivism and a "you can't arrest us all" mentality which is why the government and police allow it, even if it is in violation of some rule or other. They tolerate it, but you know damn well they'd fine the lot of them if they could. Taking away fireworks from the common people is just one more link in the chain of shackles around our neck. It's unenforceable, and represents the sliver of power the people have over the establishment. Enjoy domestic fireworks while you can.

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Hyperbolicalpaca@reddit

Taking away fireworks from the common people is just one more link in the chain of shackles around our neck

Can you possibly get just a tad more dramatic?

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Misher_Masher@reddit

They're not worried about Fireworks in the streets, but if you have a Fire Stick in your house it's a different matter.

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PuzzleheadedDay7943@reddit

I'm personally fine with it on New year's...

I think special exceptions are made on new years when it comes to noise and fireworks ect, otherwise we'd be seeing mass arrests all over the country and I don't think the legal system could handle that...

Now having said that...

I much like the idea of having designated fireworks zones, like an open field or something where everyone can take all their fireworks and contribute to a mega fireworks display away from homes.

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theNixher@reddit

Police resources have been stripped and limited for quite some time, they have to pick their battles, literally.

Is setting off fireworks in the street a pain in the ass? Yes. Could it be dangerous? It could be. Is it currently hurting anyone? Probably not.

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TomTomXD1234@reddit

It's 1 day per year. It will be fine. It is over

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itsWootton@reddit

Some morons did it down my road but set them off on a slight grass hill. They fell over mid ignition and blew into my house wall (and some hit my car and has burnt the glass slightly).

No idea who they were so I cant even take it further

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Geedub73@reddit

I'm 52 and there's less fireworks now than when my generation was younger. We as kids could literally buy fireworks in most shops

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mrbennbenn@reddit

What a bunch of miserable c*nts you and most of the people on this thread are 😆

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capitanmanizade@reddit

Every new years and bonfire day London turns into Gaza

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ellasfella68@reddit

There should be at least 3 police officers stationed on every street during NYE /s. Numpty.

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Loud-Butterscotch234@reddit

Police don't care about you.

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EscapeArtist92@reddit

No, they should be stopping it. I would ignore it and move on. Not worth the stress, time or hassle to pursue this as a complaint

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PlasticAttorney1980@reddit

I’ve just spent NYE in Berlin, it is absolute carnage here, 1000’s in the streets launching every firework imaginable in every indiscriminate direction from about 5pm till 2am. The air was thick with smoke the entire time. I saw people arrested, fires break out and multiple first responders. I can’t believe it’s considered completely acceptable, utterly bonkers.

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Cantdecide1207@reddit

I'd be livid if this was my street. They do them a lot near me. My dogs hate them. And the people doing them are so inconsiderate a d irresponsible.

I agree with many others. They should be restricted to public displays only. Since back end of October they've been going off randomly. There was one Sunday lunchtime someone let off a load. Like during the day, what is the point. Absolute idiots.

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Used-Flamingo-4320@reddit

Police are there to rock up once one of those fireworks has taken your eye out. Not to stop the fireworks from being shot at you.

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Burnicle@reddit

I used to live opposite a petrol station. I called the cops cos people were setting fireworks off next to the petrol station. "We'll see if we can send anyone."

spoiler: about 30 minutes of fireworks later and still no cops, but they stopped setting off fireworks...

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Correct-Ad-6605@reddit

I know not to ever have a cat in your arms around midnight at any new year timeline. It's like trying to hold onto a spinning bag of razor blades.

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RugbyEdd@reddit

I don't think there are enough police in the country to stop it even if they wanted to.

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gpowerf@reddit

This reminds me of New Year's Eve in Vienna 👍 I love the festive spirit at midnight.

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MrboboCatman@reddit

The police don't give a shit. Don't pretend otherwise.

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Whatever-and-breathe@reddit

I don't know here, probably just some young idiots who thought it was a brilliant but I know in France (well rough parts of some towns) some gangs are using fireworks as weapons against the police and other gangs, aiming the fireworks straight at their targets. Some of those fireworks have ended up in people flat.

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BetterTheDevil909@reddit

Until it's made illegal, what do you want the police to do?

NYE is one of the busiest periods for emergency services. They won't have time to stop to tell people to stop doing something that isn't even illegal (even though it definitely should be.)

I also had to laugh a bit at you saying you were "annoyed that they avoided the explosions". Avoiding explosions is generally the common sense thing to do.

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insomnimax_99@reddit

Police have no legal obligation to enforce the law.

Police only have a legal obligation to protect human life, but that’s it, they have no other “positive” legal obligation to act.

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uselessnavy@reddit

You are being disingenuous. They probably had to police a large crowd of people down the road, as numbers swell on New Year's Eve.

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BetterTheDevil909@reddit

Why are you presuming that police have just driven past? They were probably looking for the people that had put the fireworks there. Once fireworks have been lit there's not a lot you can do unless you want to get a scorched face and hands.

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carlbandit@reddit

I'm confident police have bigger things to deal with on NYE then someone setting fireworks off in the middle of the road. Should they be doing it? No. But if the police stopped and told them to go elsewhere, they'd likely just stop while the police are there then carry on once they are gone.

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killy_321@reddit

If Police don't do shoplifting anymore they certainly are not going to mess with fireworks on new years eve?

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Prudent_Psychology57@reddit

"are the police just allowed to..."
I fear the question being asked highlights a problem in the UK about what police are, how they operate, etc and why people call 999 these days to report something a neighbour said about them on social media.
The thing is, if you looked more into it, you'd end up more bothered by the state of it all, and might even become politically active to help sort it out \^\^

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K4Y__4LD3R50N@reddit

The urge to hose down the assholes who were doing this outside my door and maybe four feet from cars was incredibly high. Only a wanker thinks let's set off these really explosive things next to vehicles that are a huge danger if they are set alright. Could've literally blown my street into oblivion and killed people. My elderly neighbor cannot run out of his home in the event of a fire and these are all terraced houses, mostly full of families because I live behind a school.

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dickbob124@reddit

They're likely looking for bigger fish. The people in the video seem to be setting them off normally, albeit in the street. The police are probably patrolling looking for people intentionally firing them at people and property.

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tmr89@reddit

Or they’re driving past burglaries on the way to someone who posted a meme, or is videoing in public

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tmr89@reddit

Very funny

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JeffSergeant@reddit

Also the pragmatic angle that they've already lit them, so stopping to tell them off isn't going to achieve much.

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iffyClyro@reddit

You’re right. Unfortunately not enough police on frontline duties to deal with lower level stuff and still be available for your ongoing domestics and mental health crisis calls that take priority.

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The_Dark_Vampire@reddit

Plus it's NYE or NYD midnight.

Probably having to sort out drunks fighting and causing problems.

So unless they are actually causing a big problem they will just let it slide.

Besides once the fireworks have stopped what are the Police going to do.

And I say this as someone who doesn't really like fireworks but I like drunks fighting and people purposefully causing problems even less

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Easy-Equal@reddit

No setting off fireworks in a public place is illegal and can face a unlimited fine and up to 6 months prison.

But good luck trying to get the police to do anything

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StampyScouse@reddit

I think it's also down to safety. As much as this is annoying and a safety issue it's not as big an issue as some of the other issues the officers will be dealing with and you've also got to consider that they've got to consider the risk balanced with the potential outcomes. I.e. if these numpties are easily upset when asked to stop what's the chance they'll fire a firework at them? Where as if they just leave them alone and deal with something more serious they'll eventually go away.

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Palmtreesandcake@reddit

Setting them off on a public pavement is illegal.

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Iwanttoeatkakigori@reddit

I’ve been in Vienna on NYE and was walking through one of those narrow cobblestone streets with tall buildings, unaware of the tradition of letting fireworks off everywhere. Young and old come out into the street and do it. They were rattling off the buildings and around corners. Was a pretty dicey journey back to the hotel. I believe it’s common in other European countries too.

Would prefer that doesn’t make it’s way to the UK.

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trade-craft@reddit

The police are useless now.

If you've dealt with them at all in the past 5 or 6 years, you'll realise this is par for the course now. They are pathetic and complacent, and avoid problems or involvement for as long as possible.

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Davski_@reddit

They should intervene to ensure safety, but fireworks are just unpoliceable from the bottom-up at that time. Being a time-limited event, it's just easier to let them get on with it for a few minutes rather than cause them to stop & miss that time-limited period and cause anger. They'd only go back into the road and carry on after the police had gone anyway even if they were stopped. If they blow their own eyes out, it might teach them something, and just hope they don't blow someone else's eyes or windows out.

Without greater legislation control, they're fighting a losing battle and idiots like those in the video are able to shoot fireworks in the road.

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aokay24@reddit

Not just that chances are theyll also get shot at with fireworks. You can just tell a fireworks ban in coming.

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theegrimrobe@reddit

lets fucking hope so, i cant stand the damn things!

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nikhkin@reddit

I don't believe it's illegal to set of fireworks (safely) in the middle of a residential street.

At most, it would come down to blocking the carriageway, which they're not doing.

Beyond the risk of distracting a driver, it's no more dangerous than doing it in a garden.

Perhaps it could warrant a talking-to from a police officer, but by the time they've done that the fireworks will be finished. The officers' time is probably better spent patrolling and keeping an eye out for the inevitable drunk drivers.

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Due_Peak_6428@reddit

youre insane if you think its legal to set fireworks in a public place, its a criminal offence.

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onefourk@reddit

Scumbags are going to scumbag.

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Whatiii@reddit

Maybe its not allowed, but is stopping people doing something relatively safely a good use of time? I can't see it being in public interest to prosecute, once the fireworks are lit what are they going to do? insist they carry them through a house to a back garden? Wait it out watching them? Tell them to stop lighting them in the middle of the road, leave and have it happen again? Judging by the timestamp on the video it is midnight, is it really worth the time to stop what is likely a 1-5 minute firework display at midnight for the new year? Sure it disrupts cars, but they can wait.

There is no winning here if the police decide to stop it, they will have to spend their whole night patrolling this one street and ignoring anything of higher priority, while making a group feel targeted.

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